Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[hahay]

Is definitely going to be an easy winning for Bayern Munich, and am certain many goals will be scored. Augsburg performance have been terrible, and this started from the beginning of the season. They played their first 5 Bundesliga matches and was able to win in just 1. Augsburg might end up in the relegation zone if they don't improve their performance. However, Bayern Munich have a nice points gap (4) against Dormund, and their next 2 matches are probably against weak teams. Which they will surely win, and boost their points.

Football is not all about who has the best team and skill although it counts most of the times but lately I have come to understand that some weaker clubs spend time to learn the strength of their rival team ahead of the match with the intention of either drawing the match or limiting the number of goals. Prediction is becoming more difficult than it used to be in the past. No club is underrated anymore

That's what lower teams or mediocre teams should do but unfortunately, not all mediocre teams can do that and it is very possible that the top teams will continue to strengthen their points at the top in the standings. When a mediocre team can draw or even win a match against the favorite team, in reality it only happens sometimes and not always. Therefore, a top team with many advantages from good management and squad, then at least it always guarantees good results too and that can't be denied either.

[KTChampions]

Football is not all about who has the best team and skill although it counts most of the times but lately I have come to understand that some weaker clubs spend time to learn the strength of their rival team ahead of the match with the intention of either drawing the match or limiting the number of goals. Prediction is becoming more difficult than it used to be in the past. No club is underrated anymore

In any club there are analysts who study opponents in advance (including on statistical data sets) and give recommendations on the most optimal strategies for the game, this is not news. But in reality, the balance of forces does not change. The percentage of victories by top clubs over outsiders is approximately the same from season to season.

Do you do your analysis based on data from the whoscored service or independently? If independently, then I would be interested to know how much your rating and rating of the service differ (and of course which one is the most effective, but it takes a long distance to understand this).

This is an independent analysis, and not just based on the standings, but with the current team situation, stats, and injured or suspension, yes I know I still have a long way in understanding this, but I am just making assumptions on what information I can get, if you don't like what I have posted then I respect that, and take this as a grain of salt,

On the contrary, I like independent analysis and I love to study the opinions of people who are engaged in it, which is why I asked you how your results differ from other services that have been working for a long time. I have heard that some analysts are able to outperform (in certain sports) the aggregators of statistics (which is, in fact whoscored).

[Velvet78]

I wonder how big the gap between Dortmund and Bayern Munich will be until Erling Haaland bounces back from his injury. For now, he is expected to come back in mid December. There were some rumours like he wouldn't be back before the new year. But it turns out that he can. He is their biggest player when it comes to scoring in the end. Being deprived of him, they are having more problems. For example, maybe they would have won against Leipzig or got at least a point if he was able to play.

I hope that Dortmund don't let the gap with Bayern Munich to widen too much until that time. I want to see Dortmund fighting till the last week for winning the Bundesliga title.

[poldanmig]

@EdenHazard I want to say I don't think that Bundesliga is the most competitive league in Europe. I think the English Premier League has taken that spot. Because a League is nothing without competition and Bayern Munich does not seem to have March of competition right now. But in EPL almost all the teams really good. They got good players innermost all the teams. And there is a reason why the English Premier League attracts more audiences.

I totally agree with you, so far the Premier League has been the most competitive competition compared to the Bundesliga and Ligue 1, which every season is only dominated by one and two clubs, in premier league every season there are always surprises happend, like the case right now, an unseeded team can appear at the top and vice versa, while the Bundesliga, before the season starts we can guess if Bayern Munich and Dortmund are likely to compete for the title get the Bundesliga champions in end season.

The English league has many top clubs competing in this competition, so indeed the most interesting is the English league and this being the main ranked league in FIFA has tight and solid matches.
But I don't differentiate in every league, but apart from the English league, other leagues are easy to guess who will win, they can survive because no one can compete except in the EPL, which currently still has many opportunities for other teams.
The Bundesliga is only Bayern Munich which is still victorious.

The heat of competition in the title race until the end of the season has made it one of the main attractions of the premier league so far compared to other leagues, financial strength is one of the main factors driving other clubs to be able to compete with top clubs and we don't find this in the bundesliga so far, maybe apart from Bayern Munich, only Dortmund have a balanced financial position in their team, but unfortunately this has not been enough to destroy Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga so far.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

I wonder how big the gap between Dortmund and Bayern Munich will be until Erling Haaland bounces back from his injury.

Haaland is a great player and an asset of Dortmund. His contribution for Dortmund is huge but please don't exaggerate the with Haaland, Dortmund will automatically fight against Bayern better. Last season, with healthy Haaland, Dortmund still fell far behind Bayern on the table sot the same gap can happen in this season even if Dortmund have a healthy Haaland.

For now, he is expected to come back in mid December. There were some rumours like he wouldn't be back before the new year. But it turns out that he can. He is their biggest player when it comes to scoring in the end. Being deprived of him, they are having more problems. For example, maybe they would have won against Leipzig or got at least a point if he was able to play.

This is only rumor but this injury and rumor reminds us about the risk of overuse young players. Many young players lost their career because of serious injuries. Walcott, Wilshere in Premier League are examples. They never came back to their best after recovery from injuries. Dortmund and Haaland have to take care of health condition for Haaland and how he should play, take rest at the right time.

If his body is not fine, the club should give him break time to recover.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I'm afraid of the probability again that Bayern Munich would just pull away from all of the rest of the teams at some point and get another comfortable Bundesliga title. I'm really sick of seeing this so far.    I believe that it is time for making some change. And when I look at the teams about which of them can do this, I see Dortmund at the top of this list. Maybe Freiburg are also in a very good shape but I don't think that they are capable of maintaining a strong form till the end of the season. Dortmund seem to be the only team capable thanks to especially Haaland.

At the same time, I'd really like to see them strengthening their defensive line in January to be more solid there. Because they have conceded 17 goals in 11 league games so far. And this caused them to lose the games they could have won normally too. They are very good at scoring but they need to improve their defense too. Otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising to see Bayern Munich making it to the championship one more time like they always do.

[Jackl87]

I'm afraid of the probability again that Bayern Munich would just pull away from all of the rest of the teams at some point and get another comfortable Bundesliga title. I'm really sick of seeing this so far.    I believe that it is time for making some change. And when I look at the teams about which of them can do this, I see Dortmund at the top of this list. Maybe Freiburg are also in a very good shape but I don't think that they are capable of maintaining a strong form till the end of the season. Dortmund seem to be the only team capable thanks to especially Haaland.

At the same time, I'd really like to see them strengthening their defensive line in January to be more solid there. Because they have conceded 17 goals in 11 league games so far. And this caused them to lose the games they could have won normally too. They are very good at scoring but they need to improve their defense too. Otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising to see Bayern Munich making it to the championship one more time like they always do.

As sad as it is for the other teams of the Bundesliga and as bad as it is for the excitement factor of the league it will probably be another Bundesliga title for Bayern Munich this season and i have to say, as boring as it is, it would be a deserved and a logical title, because in the end they have just by far the best squads of all teams in the Bundeliga and even one of the best squads in the whole world of football. I am pretty sure, that Bayern Munich would be a favorite for the title in every football league of the world. Of course they would not have won 9 conecutive titles in a row in the premier league but i am pretty sure they would have won at least 2 or 3 titles in that 9 years there too.

[rozak]

The heat of competition in the title race until the end of the season has made it one of the main attractions of the premier league so far compared to other leagues, financial strength is one of the main factors driving other clubs to be able to compete with top clubs and we don't find this in the bundesliga so far, maybe apart from Bayern Munich, only Dortmund have a balanced financial position in their team, but unfortunately this has not been enough to destroy Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga so far.

If the teams in the Bundesliga can be more open and there are no regulations to curb free-entry foreign investment, I think there is a possibility that the teams in the Bundesliga will get a strong financial boost to enter the next transfer market.
a strong team like Munich is not in doubt of its finances. but we can learn from Leicester in the 2016 premier league. Being a champion with a team that is fairly mediocre without star players they can achieve. and I think teams in the league can be like Leicester who proved that champions don't always belong to those who have money and star players.

[Maidak]

I'm afraid of the probability again that Bayern Munich would just pull away from all of the rest of the teams at some point and get another comfortable Bundesliga title. I'm really sick of seeing this so far.    I believe that it is time for making some change. And when I look at the teams about which of them can do this, I see Dortmund at the top of this list. Maybe Freiburg are also in a very good shape but I don't think that they are capable of maintaining a strong form till the end of the season. Dortmund seem to be the only team capable thanks to especially Haaland.

At the same time, I'd really like to see them strengthening their defensive line in January to be more solid there. Because they have conceded 17 goals in 11 league games so far. And this caused them to lose the games they could have won normally too. They are very good at scoring but they need to improve their defense too. Otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising to see Bayern Munich making it to the championship one more time like they always do.

I think Bayern will beat the league champion and it is simply because they don't have enough competitions. Sure Dortmund can cause some problems here and there for Bayern but one team can only cause so many problems. This mainly happens because of the money situation of other teams as they cannot go for the star players looking at their money balance. Better teams will be better players and the smaller teams cannot reject the offer looking at the money because they do need the money after all. So unless Bayern Munich faces enough hard opponents they will continue in their winning ways.

[YuginKadoya]

Do you do your analysis based on data from the whoscored service or independently? If independently, then I would be interested to know how much your rating and rating of the service differ (and of course which one is the most effective, but it takes a long distance to understand this).

This is an independent analysis, and not just based on the standings, but with the current team situation, stats, and injured or suspension, yes I know I still have a long way in understanding this, but I am just making assumptions on what information I can get, if you don't like what I have posted then I respect that, and take this as a grain of salt,

On the contrary, I like independent analysis and I love to study the opinions of people who are engaged in it, which is why I asked you how your results differ from other services that have been working for a long time. I have heard that some analysts are able to outperform (in certain sports) the aggregators of statistics (which is, in fact whoscored).

Well, I really like to share what I think about the Bundesliga and other sports that I invested in and Bet on and share here in the thread, but I always make sure to research the teams and players statistics and situations before giving my in-depth analysis, but I am also open up to other ideas and analysis in what they think would win,

I really don't want to view myself as an expert with this kind of thing, and yes there are exceptional experts with this kind of thing and I am not at their level, but I sure do my own research first before comparing it to other analytics and exchanging different opinion here in the thread is a good thing aswell.

[poldanmig]

The heat of competition in the title race until the end of the season has made it one of the main attractions of the premier league so far compared to other leagues, financial strength is one of the main factors driving other clubs to be able to compete with top clubs and we don't find this in the bundesliga so far, maybe apart from Bayern Munich, only Dortmund have a balanced financial position in their team, but unfortunately this has not been enough to destroy Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga so far.

If the teams in the Bundesliga can be more open and there are no regulations to curb free-entry foreign investment, I think there is a possibility that the teams in the Bundesliga will get a strong financial boost to enter the next transfer market.
a strong team like Munich is not in doubt of its finances. but we can learn from Leicester in the 2016 premier league. Being a champion with a team that is fairly mediocre without star players they can achieve. and I think teams in the league can be like Leicester who proved that champions don't always belong to those who have money and star players.

The 50+1 rule (shares must be controlled by non-commercial or non-profit parties) which has been adopted by German football has certainly made too many restrictions on large-scale investments by oil tycoons or conglomerate entrepreneurs, with the excuse of preventing groups of supporters from losing their bargaining position in club decision making, this regulation is what triggers Middle Eastern investors to be reluctant to invest in clubs in the Bundesliga.
In my opinion, what happens to Leicester is very rare and maybe we need to wait another 10 seasons to see a team like Leicester champions again with a modest squad.

[Swordsoffreedom]

The English league has many top clubs competing in this competition, so indeed the most interesting is the English league and this being the main ranked league in FIFA has tight and solid matches.
But I don't differentiate in every league, but apart from the English league, other leagues are easy to guess who will win, they can survive because no one can compete except in the EPL, which currently still has many opportunities for other teams.
The Bundesliga is only Bayern Munich which is still victorious.

The heat of competition in the title race until the end of the season has made it one of the main attractions of the premier league so far compared to other leagues, financial strength is one of the main factors driving other clubs to be able to compete with top clubs and we don't find this in the bundesliga so far, maybe apart from Bayern Munich, only Dortmund have a balanced financial position in their team, but unfortunately this has not been enough to destroy Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga so far.

Maybe this is the reason why Bundesliga is attracting fewer and fewer people day by day just because one team dominating the show and having almost no competition except for Dortmund. Financial position is a big factor here but teams do need to get a better place if they want to compete with better teams. And that is the thing which there are other teams are not doing enough or maybe that cant happens because didn't have that much money. So this is likely to happen for or quite some time in the future too.

[alpamar99]

The heat of competition in the title race until the end of the season has made it one of the main attractions of the premier league so far compared to other leagues, financial strength is one of the main factors driving other clubs to be able to compete with top clubs and we don't find this in the bundesliga so far, maybe apart from Bayern Munich, only Dortmund have a balanced financial position in their team, but unfortunately this has not been enough to destroy Bayern Munich dominance in the Bundesliga so far.

If the teams in the Bundesliga can be more open and there are no regulations to curb free-entry foreign investment, I think there is a possibility that the teams in the Bundesliga will get a strong financial boost to enter the next transfer market.
a strong team like Munich is not in doubt of its finances. but we can learn from Leicester in the 2016 premier league. Being a champion with a team that is fairly mediocre without star players they can achieve. and I think teams in the league can be like Leicester who proved that champions don't always belong to those who have money and star players.

The 50+1 rule (shares must be controlled by non-commercial or non-profit parties) which has been adopted by German football has certainly made too many restrictions on large-scale investments by oil tycoons or conglomerate entrepreneurs, with the excuse of preventing groups of supporters from losing their bargaining position in club decision making, this regulation is what triggers Middle Eastern investors to be reluctant to invest in clubs in the Bundesliga.
In my opinion, what happens to Leicester is very rare and maybe we need to wait another 10 seasons to see a team like Leicester champions again with a modest squad.

Germany indirectly at least makes things like this so that football and clubs are not only regulated by one person and fans can contribute to their favorite club.
in terms of football this is a pretty good thing but not for business so rarely there are investors from Arab countries and tycoons who glance at the team here.
Leicester on the other hand is a rare miracle. and i agree with what you said something like this will happen very rarely and probably something like this will not happen even a decade from now i doubt something like this will happen again

[ReiMomo]

I'm afraid of the probability again that Bayern Munich would just pull away from all of the rest of the teams at some point and get another comfortable Bundesliga title. I'm really sick of seeing this so far.    I believe that it is time for making some change. And when I look at the teams about which of them can do this, I see Dortmund at the top of this list. Maybe Freiburg are also in a very good shape but I don't think that they are capable of maintaining a strong form till the end of the season. Dortmund seem to be the only team capable thanks to especially Haaland.

At the same time, I'd really like to see them strengthening their defensive line in January to be more solid there. Because they have conceded 17 goals in 11 league games so far. And this caused them to lose the games they could have won normally too. They are very good at scoring but they need to improve their defense too. Otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising to see Bayern Munich making it to the championship one more time like they always do.

I think Bayern will beat the league champion and it is simply because they don't have enough competitions. Sure Dortmund can cause some problems here and there for Bayern but one team can only cause so many problems. This mainly happens because of the money situation of other teams as they cannot go for the star players looking at their money balance. Better teams will be better players and the smaller teams cannot reject the offer looking at the money because they do need the money after all. So unless Bayern Munich faces enough hard opponents they will continue in their winning ways.

Looking at the table yes Bayern has performed well in this league and is a strong competitor for Dortmund. And checking on the number of goals, Bayern has scored more goals than Dortmund. Bayern has scored even 12 goals against Bremer SV with 12:0 which is really mind blowing. Yes Dortmund has to perform so good if they face Bayern at the final.

[MAAManda]

Looking at the table yes Bayern has performed well in this league and is a strong competitor for Dortmund. And checking on the number of goals, Bayern has scored more goals than Dortmund. Bayern has scored even 12 goals against Bremer SV with 12:0 which is really mind blowing. Yes Dortmund has to perform so good if they face Bayern at the final.

Bayern Munich have performed very well this season, seen from the productivity of the goals they recorded, they managed to score 40 goals and conceded 11 goals while Dortmund only scored 28 goals and conceded 17 goals.

and it looks like in the next Bayern Munich match, they will win easily because they will be against a bottom team who are in the relegation zone. the more the gap points between Bayern Munich and its competitors will be.

[Iranus]

I wonder how big the gap between Dortmund and Bayern Munich will be until Erling Haaland bounces back from his injury.

Haaland is a great player and an asset of Dortmund. His contribution for Dortmund is huge but please don't exaggerate the with Haaland, Dortmund will automatically fight against Bayern better. Last season, with healthy Haaland, Dortmund still fell far behind Bayern on the table sot the same gap can happen in this season even if Dortmund have a healthy Haaland.

For now, he is expected to come back in mid December. There were some rumours like he wouldn't be back before the new year. But it turns out that he can. He is their biggest player when it comes to scoring in the end. Being deprived of him, they are having more problems. For example, maybe they would have won against Leipzig or got at least a point if he was able to play.

This is only rumor but this injury and rumor reminds us about the risk of overuse young players. Many young players lost their career because of serious injuries. Walcott, Wilshere in Premier League are examples. They never came back to their best after recovery from injuries. Dortmund and Haaland have to take care of health condition for Haaland and how he should play, take rest at the right time.
If his body is not fine, the club should give him break time to recover.

Erling Haaland is a great young player who has a lot of days in front of him. He is a really valuable player for Dortmund and Dortmund should treat him that way. But I honestly think that there's nowadays should train harder. Because players nowadays are becoming more injury-prone than before. So my suggestion is to train harder so the actual match becomes easier. That way there will be fewer injuries and players will also get more Max time and also stay fit for longer.

[TopT3ns]

I wonder how big the gap between Dortmund and Bayern Munich will be until Erling Haaland bounces back from his injury.

Haaland is a great player and an asset of Dortmund. His contribution for Dortmund is huge but please don't exaggerate the with Haaland, Dortmund will automatically fight against Bayern better. Last season, with healthy Haaland, Dortmund still fell far behind Bayern on the table sot the same gap can happen in this season even if Dortmund have a healthy Haaland.

For now, he is expected to come back in mid December. There were some rumours like he wouldn't be back before the new year. But it turns out that he can. He is their biggest player when it comes to scoring in the end. Being deprived of him, they are having more problems. For example, maybe they would have won against Leipzig or got at least a point if he was able to play.

This is only rumor but this injury and rumor reminds us about the risk of overuse young players. Many young players lost their career because of serious injuries. Walcott, Wilshere in Premier League are examples. They never came back to their best after recovery from injuries. Dortmund and Haaland have to take care of health condition for Haaland and how he should play, take rest at the right time.
If his body is not fine, the club should give him break time to recover.

Erling Haaland is a great young player who has a lot of days in front of him. He is a really valuable player for Dortmund and Dortmund should treat him that way. But I honestly think that there's nowadays should train harder. Because players nowadays are becoming more injury-prone than before. So my suggestion is to train harder so the actual match becomes easier. That way there will be fewer injuries and players will also get more Max time and also stay fit for longer.

He miss many important match for Dortmund because got injury and left about three or five months later back to the field, I think he need to work hard and keep on the top performance after back from injury, many potential player hard back to the top performance after got injury but we can see how hard working from Haaland and back again with fantastic goal. I want to see Haaland can play on primer league and  how many goal can make?

[Alisha-k]

@EdenHazard I want to say I don't think that Bundesliga is the most competitive league in Europe. I think the English Premier League has taken that spot. Because a League is nothing without competition and Bayern Munich does not seem to have March of competition right now. But in EPL almost all the teams really good. They got good players innermost all the teams. And there is a reason why the English Premier League attracts more audiences.

Bundles liga is also competitive we might say Bayern is one of the best in bundles liga but doesn't mean they are unbeatable at least they have also lost and drawn matches so it's a bit competitive even though we might say not as the English premier league but there is still a competition in bundles liga

[EdenHazard]

Do you do your analysis based on data from the whoscored service or independently? If independently, then I would be interested to know how much your rating and rating of the service differ (and of course which one is the most effective, but it takes a long distance to understand this).

This is an independent analysis, and not just based on the standings, but with the current team situation, stats, and injured or suspension, yes I know I still have a long way in understanding this, but I am just making assumptions on what information I can get, if you don't like what I have posted then I respect that, and take this as a grain of salt,

Yupp , international break cost us two weeks without great entertainment at the weekend , such a not really interesting to see international matches especially if it was for friendly or a long qualification matches only. our entertainment thing feel like robbed.

speaking about those key players who missing out due injury it seems so far so good , they are performing well to play without their stars.
bundesliga is the most competitive league in europe despite bayern munich in recent years dominating season after season but the matches is something else! there often goal galore occurred though and the points gap also pretty competitive.

I just love Bundesliga than watching the international league I am just more interested in Bundesliga that is all, and maybe they are doing this because of so many players that are getting injured, and I think it can surely benefit those teams that have multiple injured players,

I try not to just look at Bayern Munich so much because they are pretty much overrated, that is why supporting Dortmund, Leipzig, or Leverkusen just to change the pace, and teams that are making progress with their performance was likely what I like, but highly unlikely I really it is still OK for me if Bayern could still get the championship this season because they pretty much show domination over the 1st division and not relying mostly on Lewandowski.

Lewandowski seems will have no further career at bayern munich , his golden age has passed .

there is no sufficient talent to replace him at the club except for acquring an instant talent from dortmund which its like has become a tradition to pick dortmund best player every damn year lol.
and yeah speaking about bundesliga title contenders .. everyone would of course love to see leipzig to lift the bundesliga trophy , but they still inconsitent , a hard work needed.

[Joca97]

Do you do your analysis based on data from the whoscored service or independently? If independently, then I would be interested to know how much your rating and rating of the service differ (and of course which one is the most effective, but it takes a long distance to understand this).

This is an independent analysis, and not just based on the standings, but with the current team situation, stats, and injured or suspension, yes I know I still have a long way in understanding this, but I am just making assumptions on what information I can get, if you don't like what I have posted then I respect that, and take this as a grain of salt,

Yupp , international break cost us two weeks without great entertainment at the weekend , such a not really interesting to see international matches especially if it was for friendly or a long qualification matches only. our entertainment thing feel like robbed.

speaking about those key players who missing out due injury it seems so far so good , they are performing well to play without their stars.
bundesliga is the most competitive league in europe despite bayern munich in recent years dominating season after season but the matches is something else! there often goal galore occurred though and the points gap also pretty competitive.

I just love Bundesliga than watching the international league I am just more interested in Bundesliga that is all, and maybe they are doing this because of so many players that are getting injured, and I think it can surely benefit those teams that have multiple injured players,

I try not to just look at Bayern Munich so much because they are pretty much overrated, that is why supporting Dortmund, Leipzig, or Leverkusen just to change the pace, and teams that are making progress with their performance was likely what I like, but highly unlikely I really it is still OK for me if Bayern could still get the championship this season because they pretty much show domination over the 1st division and not relying mostly on Lewandowski.

Lewandowski seems will have no further career at bayern munich , his golden age has passed .

there is no sufficient talent to replace him at the club except for acquring an instant talent from dortmund which its like has become a tradition to pick dortmund best player every damn year lol.
and yeah speaking about bundesliga title contenders .. everyone would of course love to see leipzig to lift the bundesliga trophy , but they still inconsitent , a hard work needed.

I dont think that Lewandowskis golden age has past. He is currently playing for couple of years at the elite level in world football and i think he can go like this for 3-4 more years if he stays at Bayern Munich. He scored over 40+ goals alone just last season. I dont think now that Dortmund would give their best striker to Bayern again like they did in previous years