Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[rendravolt]

I'm not going to blame Harry Kane here and maybe it's true that Bayern Munich's preparation was not very good for facing Leipzig in the DFL Cup final. An embarrassing defeat of 3 goals without reply would have been enough to hit all parties in Bayern Munich and as the team that was the favorite to win this title it failed. Even Harry Kane tried to be ready to play in the match, but the time he arrived at Bayern Munich until this final match was so tight that there was clearly no time to train longer or find chemistry with other players.

After all, Harry Kane only entered in the 63rd minute when Bayern Munich were already 2 goals behind and this is like hoping for luck if Harry Kane can score a goal in this match. But soon Dani Olmo scored a hat-trick from the penalty spot, thereby burying Bayern Munich's hopes of winning this title. I think Harry Kane will have to be a little more patient to be able to win his first trophy with Bayern Munich later.

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[Docnaster]

Not good debut for Harry Kane after Bayern Munich defeating by RB Leipzig on DFL Super Cup...

Actually it is not a good debut for Bayern Munich and Tuchel especially getting 3 goals without scoring any, is catastrophic failure.. I just talked few days ago about how ridiculous is the number of goals received by Bayern Munich when they faced Liverpool and Monaco. Their defence strategy isn't effective and they will suffer if they will not score many goals.
For Harry Kane, no one can blame him since he barely had time to play with his new colleagues and I don't know what was Tuchel thinking of..

Looking at this match, I saw how bad the defense was built by Bayern Munich, not even 5 minutes into the match they had to miss after Dani Olmo scored a goal and a goal that made him score the first hatrick this season.
Yes, it was a poor debut for Kane, but it wasn't his fault, especially since he had just joined the squad. He was given a chance and appeared as a substitute in the second half, and the coach just gave him time to adapt.
If Bayern Munich's defense is like this and they don't fix it, then I can say their title is really threatened with coup.
They still have enough time to evaluate, and I hope they use it well. Tuchel seems to have a problem that he must quickly fix.

Bayern Munich manager, players and fans must have be very disappointed with their performance yesterday in the super cup game. It's a result that they never wanted for themselves but were forced to concede it by Leipzig. Harry Kane who played his first game for the club less than 24 hours after his tranfer to the club was finalized must have definitely wished for a better result.
Dani Olmo's hatrick is the first to be recorded in the top five European countries this season and I must say it was a beauty to behold

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I'm not going to blame Harry Kane here and maybe it's true that Bayern Munich's preparation was not very good for facing Leipzig in the DFL Cup final. An embarrassing defeat of 3 goals without reply would have been enough to hit all parties in Bayern Munich and as the team that was the favorite to win this title it failed. Even Harry Kane tried to be ready to play in the match, but the time he arrived at Bayern Munich until this final match was so tight that there was clearly no time to train longer or find chemistry with other players.

After all, Harry Kane only entered in the 63rd minute when Bayern Munich were already 2 goals behind and this is like hoping for luck if Harry Kane can score a goal in this match. But soon Dani Olmo scored a hat-trick from the penalty spot, thereby burying Bayern Munich's hopes of winning this title. I think Harry Kane will have to be a little more patient to be able to win his first trophy with Bayern Munich later.

One sentence, it's just 1 game. Who cares about the league cup? No me, not Bayern, not the Bayern fans.
They will destroy the league, that's what they want to do.
Who remembers the league cup when they become German champion and maybe get another title with it?

The media now trying to stir something up just to make Bayern look without a plan is just ridiculous.
This will motivate them even more , trust me.

And I hate Bayern, I am a Dortmund fan since childhood. But I can see the reality. 

[AakZaki]

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somehow I agree with your statement that adding Kane to the main cast when he just joined it would not be possible because Kane still has to carry out a lot of approach activities with other players to unify the chemistry. and hope in the bundesliga match later Kane can be absent soon and put on a strong performance.

Actually, I'm also not sure the Harry Kane factor can change the state of the game. I just watched this game go on and was very surprised if Bayern Lost 3 goals. I saw Bayern Munich had weak areas and made some mistakes defensively. Corner goals, penalties. Bayern could have excelled in possession, but they failed to score a goal. In addition to Leipzig performing quite well, the Munich midfielder looks uncreative.

[marcous]

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somehow I agree with your statement that adding Kane to the main cast when he just joined it would not be possible because Kane still has to carry out a lot of approach activities with other players to unify the chemistry. and hope in the bundesliga match later Kane can be absent soon and put on a strong performance.

Actually, I'm also not sure the Harry Kane factor can change the state of the game. I just watched this game go on and was very surprised if Bayern Lost 3 goals. I saw Bayern Munich had weak areas and made some mistakes defensively. Corner goals, penalties. Bayern could have excelled in possession, but they failed to score a goal. In addition to Leipzig performing quite well, the Munich midfielder looks uncreative.

That's right, Kane still needs time to adapt in a few matches with Bayern Munchen. If Kane had joined sooner, surely he could have been better in the adaptation process and building a hemistry with other players. But I don't think this can be a benchmark yet, and Kane is not the one who should be responsible for this defeat. Since this is just the beginning for him, we will see how he performs and contributes in the Bundesliga next week.

Dani Olmo showed no pressure and scored a hat-trick against Bayern Munich, something that rarely happens.

[püsür]

I think Tuchel is a fantastic manager no doubt. But the obstacles at Bayern München is too much. I don't even know how they got into this mess. A club that prioritised football is now being run like a small institution. Sometimes, I feel their problem started from when they changed to Nagelsmann. People think it started with Tuchel but NO. I want to know who's causing this issue in that hierarchy. Its not a tactical issue. Something is wrong with the culture and that place is becoming toxic for foreigners.

Kane's cup curse is a joke, of course, but only Tuchel could break a machine like Bayern. He has not a single achievement apart from winning the champions league final, which he won by sheer luck in my opinion, and he is at the level of coaches from bad leagues in terms of game plan and on-field superiority. Yet he barely won the Bundesliga last year. I'm telling you, this guy could be the biggest trouble Bayern has ever had. I wonder if Tuchel will see the end of the season. In fact, it was a mistake to even start this season with him. Tuchel would probably have been sent off if dortmund hadn't lost the title to Bayern.

[hahay]

I think Tuchel is a fantastic manager no doubt. But the obstacles at Bayern München is too much. I don't even know how they got into this mess. A club that prioritised football is now being run like a small institution. Sometimes, I feel their problem started from when they changed to Nagelsmann. People think it started with Tuchel but NO. I want to know who's causing this issue in that hierarchy. Its not a tactical issue. Something is wrong with the culture and that place is becoming toxic for foreigners.

Kane's cup curse is a joke, of course, but only Tuchel could break a machine like Bayern. He has not a single achievement apart from winning the champions league final, which he won by sheer luck in my opinion, and he is at the level of coaches from bad leagues in terms of game plan and on-field superiority. Yet he barely won the Bundesliga last year. I'm telling you, this guy could be the biggest trouble Bayern has ever had. I wonder if Tuchel will see the end of the season. In fact, it was a mistake to even start this season with him. Tuchel would probably have been sent off if dortmund hadn't lost the title to Bayern.

A 3-0 defeat in the final is a terrible result, of course, and it's hard to accept this fact about Tuchel too. But even so, I never considered Tuchel success at Chelsea at that time to be just luck. Because anyway, at that time Tuchel also managed to get Chelsea out of trouble for at least two consecutive seasons. First, improving Chelsea performance until win the Champion League title and second, Tuchel managed to maintain Chelsea consistency when there were problems about Roman Abramovich. With this success, I still believe that Tuchel has quality but indeed, it seems that at this moment Tuchel has not yet succeeded in making Bayern Munich win the trophy. Also, about Kane who basically still needs time to adapt. So yes, I personally cannot convict or accuse Bayern Munich failure because of Tuchel and Kane, I think it's not true at all.

[rahmad2nd]

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Actually, I'm also not sure the Harry Kane factor can change the state of the game. I just watched this game go on and was very surprised if Bayern Lost 3 goals. I saw Bayern Munich had weak areas and made some mistakes defensively. Corner goals, penalties. Bayern could have excelled in possession, but they failed to score a goal. In addition to Leipzig performing quite well, the Munich midfielder looks uncreative.

It is very clear, the presence of Harry Kane will not have a big impact in last night's match against Leipzig. instead of playing Kane as the main starter, the results are even more uncertain. that is why, Tuchel gave him the opportunity to play in the second half. as I posted earlier if Kane had come a week before to the Allianz Arena, maybe he could have attended several training sessions together. thus, at least Kane understands enough of the coach's system. but because he did not have enough time, in the end his performance was not optimal.

What I'm asking is, regarding Tuchel's decision to play their young striker in a crucial match. Supposedly, Tuchel can rotate other players instead of playing young players who don't have much experience. maybe if Tuchel had rotated Serge Gnabry as a centre-forward, the situation would have been different. but after all, Bayern deserved to lose in this match. especially on the Leipzig side, Marco Rose is very confident in the system he implements. plus, with the squad of his care team. thanks to that too, Leipzig has a great spirit and was able to topple Bayern. now, there's nothing to be sorry about. for Kane, his first defeat with Bayern could motivate him to adapt quickly. it's only a matter of time, in the Bundesliga matches, the Bayern Munich squad and Kane can show what they are capable of under Thomas Tuchel.

[KTChampions]

I'm not going to blame Harry Kane here and maybe it's true that Bayern Munich's preparation was not very good for facing Leipzig in the DFL Cup final. An embarrassing defeat of 3 goals without reply would have been enough to hit all parties in Bayern Munich and as the team that was the favorite to win this title it failed. Even Harry Kane tried to be ready to play in the match, but the time he arrived at Bayern Munich until this final match was so tight that there was clearly no time to train longer or find chemistry with other players.

After all, Harry Kane only entered in the 63rd minute when Bayern Munich were already 2 goals behind and this is like hoping for luck if Harry Kane can score a goal in this match. But soon Dani Olmo scored a hat-trick from the penalty spot, thereby burying Bayern Munich's hopes of winning this title. I think Harry Kane will have to be a little more patient to be able to win his first trophy with Bayern Munich later.

Kane came out when Bayern were already losing 0-2 and Leipzig needed only to defend for the overall success (without giving up chances to score on counterattacks) and in such conditions, little depends on the central striker. If I were Tuchel, who is known for being a lover of various tactical decisions, I would think a lot - in most of the upcoming games, Bayern will be the favorite, so the scenario of this game can be repeated many times.

[W Jr.]

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somehow I agree with your statement that adding Kane to the main cast when he just joined it would not be possible because Kane still has to carry out a lot of approach activities with other players to unify the chemistry. and hope in the bundesliga match later Kane can be absent soon and put on a strong performance.

Actually, I'm also not sure the Harry Kane factor can change the state of the game. I just watched this game go on and was very surprised if Bayern Lost 3 goals. I saw Bayern Munich had weak areas and made some mistakes defensively. Corner goals, penalties. Bayern could have excelled in possession, but they failed to score a goal. In addition to Leipzig performing quite well, the Munich midfielder looks uncreative.

Bayern Munich also has a goalkeeper problem. Just like Real Madrid now, they had to suffer a desperate 3-0 defeat against Leipzig as the other players couldn't play enough. I expected a different performance from Bayern Munich.

[klidex]

Bayern Munich 0 -3 RB Leipzig

Another disasterclass and terrible performance for Thomas Tuchel boys in the Bundesliga this season. It is unlikely that Tuchel will survive the season if this such horrible performance continues; Another trophy off from the cards.

Also, bad performances from Pavard did not help the team and there was little Harry Kane could do in his first game. I am tipping Tuchel to be the first manager to be sacked this new season

I don't understand some of the decisions made by Tuchel at all. He starts with Tal instead of Kane and yes, Kane is not in the teamplay yet, but he is in top physical condition thanks to his training at Tottenham. Coman also the same, despite being one of the best in the team. The line-up was also far too defensive against Leipzig. So it may well be that he could soon have to leave the club.

Despite the fact that it wasn't less than 24 hours after Harry Kane was signed to Bayern Munich, I am of the opinion that Thomas Tuchel should've started him in the super cup match against Leipzig since the England international was fit for the game.
Had Bayern Munich won the game, Harry Kane would've win his first trophy as a player and that would've been in his first match as a Bayern player but unfortunately for them, they were outclassed by Leipzig. It's just the first match of the season for Bayern and I think they will bounce back from the defeat and deliver a great season

Okay, I must be confused now. Tuchel seems to take pleasure in making us puzzle about things. You obtain Harry Kane, a true professional, and engage in a game of hide and seek with him. What's going on there? Kane and the Munich boys might have been busy developing "team chemistry" or they might have simply been exchanging bratwurst recipes. In any case, the result wasn't great. But let's be honest, perhaps Tuchel was attempting a unique tactic: confusing everyone, including himself. Mission accomplished, lol

This is not a confusion, but it really doesn't make sense when a newly recruited player surprisingly has to compete without training with other players, of course it would be very bad if that was done forcing him to appear on the field when he just arrived.
Harry Kane needs time to practice together to put together strategies from coaches and other players which don't have to be instant because everything requires a process.
Unless Harry Kane is successfully brought in a week before this match maybe Harry Kane will also appear to compete with Leipzig and victory is guaranteed but unfortunately it has been a bad start to the season for Bayern Munich.
But that's okay because at least Kane is already at this club in the long term Bayern Munich will improve again and dominate the bundesliga.

[topbitcoin]

Kane came on as a substitute but unfortunately missed out on his first trophy after failing to lead Bayern to the title as they lost to Leipzig.

This was not a failure for Harry Kane because he didn't fully fight for the club until the DFL super cup final, he had just come to Muncen and needed adaptation, so it's not that easy to make him play well because of course he needs the full support of several existing line players nearby, so that's the need to adapt this player who just moved from Tottenham doesn't mean he's a failure.

It takes time for Kane to adapt as well as for Tuchel who has recently been in control as Munich coach so he needs a lot of adaptation and overhauling the right strategy to make Munich much better even though he failed to bring Chelsea last season, so I think everyone needs time to adapt , next week the Bundesliga will start and I am sure that Kane will start to get used to the Munich squad and the clubs in the bundesliga. I think he will play better than his game today.

As I said in my previous post, it's not Kane's fault that Bayern lost, it's the club's lack of performance and Kane's inclusion in this match I think was risky as he didn't even have time to rest properly after his medical on Friday.
But that's over, what Bayern must do is now focus on making some improvements because with 3 goals, of course if Tuchel doesn't make improvements then they will remain the same as before. Although it is still quite good judging from the competition in the Bundesliga.

Kane came on as a substitute but unfortunately missed out on his first trophy after failing to lead Bayern to the title as they lost to Leipzig.
Leipzig were excellent, especially their winger Dani Olmo who was the hero for Leipzig after scoring a hat-trick in this match.
At the end of the day, it's important to realize that it's not a matter of price but indeed when we see Kane just arrive and play immediately without training it obviously makes things a little complicated too.
On the other hand, this defeat doesn't mean Kane didn't make a contribution either because in this case of course we have to look at some other considerations related to that.

I don’t know if it made sense to give Kane the opportunity to play yesterday, he just arrived and couldn’t even adapt normally. Yesterday's game showed that Bayern have big problems with the goalkeeper. Sommer, although not the best goalkeeper, is still better than Ulreich, and Neuer is still unable to recover from a broken leg. 0:3 is a bad start for Bayern, let's see how the team will play further, but so far this does not inspire much positive.

Actually, if you think about it further, this does not make sense to do because he arrived at Bayern on Friday and that means only one day he rested directly competing but maybe this has other considerations from Tuchel which we do not know what it means, it's just that for now it would be very stupid to associate Kane with today's defeat in the remaining time that is very tight for him.

[bitLeap]

Actually, I'm also not sure the Harry Kane factor can change the state of the game. I just watched this game go on and was very surprised if Bayern Lost 3 goals. I saw Bayern Munich had weak areas and made some mistakes defensively. Corner goals, penalties. Bayern could have excelled in possession, but they failed to score a goal. In addition to Leipzig performing quite well, the Munich midfielder looks uncreative.

That's right, Kane still needs time to adapt in a few matches with Bayern Munchen. If Kane had joined sooner, surely he could have been better in the adaptation process and building a hemistry with other players. But I don't think this can be a benchmark yet, and Kane is not the one who should be responsible for this defeat. Since this is just the beginning for him, we will see how he performs and contributes in the Bundesliga next week.

It is very interesting that Harry Kane debut was unexpected, in fact many of us were expecting extraordinary results because with the addition of Kane's composition in the attack line, it was getting sharper. But on the one hand I can understand that maybe Kane still feels foreign to the German League playing style. The defeat which was colored by 3 goals, of course, for Bayern Munich fans was a little disappointing.

As you say, the time is right to see Kane adapt properly. Next week Bayern Munich's first Bundesliga match will be against Werder and it is hoped that Kane can score his first goal.

[flipme]

Bayern Munich also has a goalkeeper problem. Just like Real Madrid now, they had to suffer a desperate 3-0 defeat against Leipzig as the other players couldn't play enough. I expected a different performance from Bayern Munich.

I absolutely agree with your comment about the goalkeeper. After Neuer got injured, Bayern Munich became a team that conceded goals more easily. However, I think some of Tuchel's choices were also wrong. Kim Min Jae and Harry Kane should have started the game in the starting 11. On the other hand, we should also mention Harry Kane's bad luck. He left Tottenham because he couldn't win a trophy. In his first game for Bayern Munich he was very close to a trophy but he had a bad start. Of course, we cannot take this match as a reference point. We know that he was close to winning many trophies with Bayern Munich. I just wanted to make a joke.

[macson]

Actually, I'm also not sure the Harry Kane factor can change the state of the game. I just watched this game go on and was very surprised if Bayern Lost 3 goals. I saw Bayern Munich had weak areas and made some mistakes defensively. Corner goals, penalties. Bayern could have excelled in possession, but they failed to score a goal. In addition to Leipzig performing quite well, the Munich midfielder looks uncreative.

what you said is true, the defeat of bayern in the DFL final from leipzig was not kane's fault, he was just a new player who was just trying to adapt to bayern's pattern of play, what should be blamed was the strategy tuchel used, he looked quite underestimating leipzig from the first round and finally bayern got a big surprise because olmo successfully made 3 goals.  Even though Tuchel still uses the 4-2-3-1 formation, if he continues to use the strategy against Leipzig then i'm sure that in their first match against Bremen, they will find it difficult, tuchel's responsibility is very big.

[el kaka22]

It's early into the season and yes this was an important cup and yes I understand all the jokes about Kane not getting a cup again, surely it's funny. But just because they lost now, doesn't mean that they are going to keep on losing. They may end up doing a lot better and they may end up being a lot different over course of the season.

Last season they still managed to win thanks to Dortmund, and this year with Mane gone and Kane in, feels like it's going to be much better. They will grow better without a doubt. Should be something that takes time though, they can't adjust the system in a single day. I still see them as the biggest title contender in the league, they always are, and feel like they always will be.

[Sakanwa]

It's early into the season and yes this was an important cup and yes I understand all the jokes about Kane not getting a cup again, surely it's funny. But just because they lost now, doesn't mean that they are going to keep on losing. They may end up doing a lot better and they may end up being a lot different over course of the season.

Last season they still managed to win thanks to Dortmund, and this year with Mane gone and Kane in, feels like it's going to be much better. They will grow better without a doubt. Should be something that takes time though, they can't adjust the system in a single day. I still see them as the biggest title contender in the league, they always are, and feel like they always will be.

I am still surprised why Bayern allowed Liepzig to flog them in that cup final.They are a very good side that I thought were just going to win Liepzig without any stress but sometimes football seems to give us another thing that we don't expect,the better team wins that day.Harry Kane is now a Bayern Munich's player and he would be involved in almost all their games now if injury does not hit him,and I think he is going to give them exactly what Lewandowski was giving them when he was still with them.I think he will win the golden boot at his new league this season and maybe push them to winning the bundesliga tittle again.It is a great move for him and I hope he works in unity with other of his team mates at that club.With the acquisition of Kane this season,I know Bayern will be aiming at winning the Champions league this season,and that might just be their primary target.

[Lafu]

I am still surprised why Bayern allowed Liepzig to flog them in that cup final.They are a very good side that I thought were just going to win Liepzig without any stress but sometimes football seems to give us another thing that we don't expect,the better team wins that day.

Every Cup has is one rules and even the one team is a favorite to win it its possible that the other team is grow so big in that game.
Thats what happend with Leipzig and they wasnt playing bad at all.
On top on that Leipzig always playing good and it looks like we should count on them in coming season.
And the Supercup title means nothing by the way.

[Unknown01]

Every Cup has is one rules and even the one team is a favorite to win it its possible that the other team is grow so big in that game.
Thats what happend with Leipzig and they wasnt playing bad at all.
On top on that Leipzig always playing good and it looks like we should count on them in coming season.
And the Supercup title means nothing by the way.

The Supercup isn't worth much that‘s right, but the message behind it is important: If Bayern Munich had won the super cup, they could have started the season with a trophy and showed everyone that they are the dangerous old team again. But now they are where they were last year. It was Tuchel's fault, he simply underestimated Leipzig.

[Iroh]

It's early into the season and yes this was an important cup and yes I understand all the jokes about Kane not getting a cup again, surely it's funny. But just because they lost now, doesn't mean that they are going to keep on losing. They may end up doing a lot better and they may end up being a lot different over course of the season.

Last season they still managed to win thanks to Dortmund, and this year with Mane gone and Kane in, feels like it's going to be much better. They will grow better without a doubt. Should be something that takes time though, they can't adjust the system in a single day. I still see them as the biggest title contender in the league, they always are, and feel like they always will be.

Actually, I don’t find all the jokes about Kane not being able to attach a trophy yet to his football career amusing or funny. He’s an amazing and experienced player but he alone cannot do everything in a team and win trophies in the end.
This is Bayern Munich we’re talking about. Just cause they had lost to Leipzig doesn’t mean they’re going to keep on playing and losing. They’ve always been strong contenders in the Bundesliga as long as I remember and have won the title a whole lot of times too. Perhaps these jokes would stop when Bayern goes ahead again to win the league title for the umpteen time.