Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

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I have been hearing about Bayern Munich to make big changes in the squad by sending quite many players from the team. However there is still no such action while there isn't a long time period left for the beginning of new season. If they have such plans they had better do it in time. Otherwise they might need time to have a good chemistry during the season.

Mane has been the most rumoured player to leave as you know but for now there is nothing on the table. If he leaves it is most probably going to be a Saudi team. Tuchel is actually okay with his leaving this summer so it looks like it will be the best for Mane as well.

I don't think Bayern Munich will want to sell sadio mane because they know he is still useful for the club even if mane didn't show much performance in the club last season,  mane still remain a gofbod player and will be needed by the club. I have been expecting change  of players from Bayern Munich.  Bayern Munich not having the right players in the right position was also a challenge to them last season.  This new season I expect them to form a strong squad.

Sadio Mane has not been able to match himself in the Bayern Munich team so far. Sadio Mane's career changed drastically after he joined Bayern Munich from Liverpool. Bayern Munich coach Sadio Mane is failing to make the most of his team, let's see what he can do next.

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Many good players have been created at Dortmund, and it has become a natural thing when Dortmund is called a selling club because, basically, when Dortmund manages to score good players, many other clubs will be targeted by other clubs, for example when Erling Haaland was still at Dortmund. and bought by Manchester City. If Bayern Munich wants to improve their playing conditions on the field, then they really have to try to get good players at a young age from Dortmund.

In the past, they managed to get a lot of players from Dortmund. Even a Bayern Munich legend like Lewandowski has Borussia Dortmund in his past. Borussia Dortmund is one of the world's leading teams in finding great players. Bayern can take this side of them as an example.

@Hvdv Bayern doesn’t really focus on grooming player’s rather they always like shopping from Dortmund and in the past it was really bizarre to see Dortmund sell to their closet competitor and had they not sold their best player’s to Bayern then I’m that they would have won many title’s till now. Furthermore in the absence of Jude it’ll be interesting to see if they can yet compete because I have a feeling that their performance will deteriorate and they’ll struggle to finish in the top 4 too.

For quite some time now, Dortmund has been going head to head with Bayern Munich for the title. It's clear that they're set on sticking to their strategy, which is all about the money. However, I doubt this approach will last. If they were truly open to change, they would have done so ages ago. It's clear that they're not interested in changing their ways. They would have won the title if they didn't keep selling the players they need. If they stop doing that, they will perform better and have a stronger chance against Bayern Munich.

It doesn't matter how much money they are being offered, Bayern Munich is currently a formidable force. They have the ability to acquire any player, even from their rivals. It is Dortmund's responsibility to retain their necessary players, at least until a suitable replacement is secured.

[beerlover]

I'm curious about Leverkusen's new season performance as well. They have made good progress with Xabi Alonso so far. They were near relegation zone before him and after he came they finished the season at the 6th position which helped them qualify for the Europa League group stage. This is just a wonderful improvement in performance.

But from now on the board would keep their expectations higher from Xabi Alonso. Their target would be to fight for top 4 to earn a Champions League spot just as they did previously. This isn't the most difficult task for him of course thinking of the capability of the players. Consistency will be key at this point.

Leverkusen would be in the top four for me. I think they are going to be amongst the best teams with Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, those three are the top three that I believe and Leverkusen is the fourth biggest one. I know that there are other teams who will try to do their best for a while but they shouldn't be really impossible for them to do that. Of course this is a tough job, they can't just easily be in the top four, they will have to work hard to achieve that, but it's within their means to be able to do that.

I believe that we just need some time before we could end up with a better result for them, like they need some good amount of money for it to be possible and for the time being it looks like they do not have that money and talent just yet, so top four is the biggest hope.

[rahmad2nd]

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I don't think Bayern Munich will want to sell sadio mane because they know he is still useful for the club even if mane didn't show much performance in the club last season,  mane still remain a gofbod player and will be needed by the club. I have been expecting change  of players from Bayern Munich.  Bayern Munich not having the right players in the right position was also a challenge to them last season.  This new season I expect them to form a strong squad.

Sadio Mane has not been able to match himself in the Bayern Munich team so far. Sadio Mane's career changed drastically after he joined Bayern Munich from Liverpool. Bayern Munich coach Sadio Mane is failing to make the most of his team, let's see what he can do next.

Mane's performance last season was inconsistent, plus he had a long injury. in fact, if Bayern were still under Nagelamann, I'm pretty sure that Mane would still stay at the Allianz Arena. unfortunately under the tutelage of Thomas Tuchel, Mane was not included in his project for the 2023/2024 season. in particular, after the incident of falling out between Sane and Mane. after that, there were many rumors that Sadio Mane would no longer be included in the list of players that Tuchel would retain for next season.

Now, he must be faced with a choice. even before, Mane's agent denied that the player would not play for the Saudi League. but with the circumstances that have occurred to the Bavarian squad, finally Sadio Mane has accepted to negotiate the terms of his move to the Saudi League. - Al Nassr, working to finish it. actually Mane wanted to stay, but Bayern tried to find a solution & split up. that in the end Sadio Mane is now seriously considering Saudi, he will negotiate contract terms with Al Nassr, as cited by Romano. and actually, I'm not surprised at all. in fact, I had previously suspected that Mane would leave. also, Bayern need additional funds to bring in Kane. although I'm sure, without having to sell Mane, Bayern have very healthy finances.

[marcous]

As has been the case for a long time, Dortmund don't care about their rivalry with Bayern in fact very many of their stars have moved to Bayern and some even come back when they are old there is no rivalry between them I think, Bayern with their own targets and Dortmund with their mission to be able to make money from the players they sell when they shine, these two teams I think have different visions, and fortunately the Dortmund fnas always support their team no matter what.

Yes that's a unique fact, Dortmund fans still support their club with all their hearts even though the club's vision and mission is not to win and win trophies. If they didn't sell their star players maybe they would get bigger profits by winning various championship trophies, the Bundes League and Champions League would give them a lot of bonuses. I think Dortmund will change the direction of the club's policy if it changes ownership and is acquired by a new owner.
 
As far as I can see their best achievement in the Bundesliga in the last decade is winning twice in a row in the 2010-2012 period. After that until last season Bayern Munchen dominance was difficult for them to break. Munchen won it for the full decade in 2012-2023, which is extraordinary and deserves appreciation.

[hahay]

For quite some time now, Dortmund has been going head to head with Bayern Munich for the title. It's clear that they're set on sticking to their strategy, which is all about the money. However, I doubt this approach will last. If they were truly open to change, they would have done so ages ago. It's clear that they're not interested in changing their ways. They would have won the title if they didn't keep selling the players they need. If they stop doing that, they will perform better and have a stronger chance against Bayern Munich.

It doesn't matter how much money they are being offered, Bayern Munich is currently a formidable force. They have the ability to acquire any player, even from their rivals. It is Dortmund's responsibility to retain their necessary players, at least until a suitable replacement is secured.

As has been the case for a long time, Dortmund don't care about their rivalry with Bayern in fact very many of their stars have moved to Bayern and some even come back when they are old there is no rivalry between them I think, Bayern with their own targets and Dortmund with their mission to be able to make money from the players they sell when they shine, these two teams I think have different visions, and fortunately the Dortmund fnas always support their team no matter what.

Agreed, there seems to be no rivalry between Bayern Munich and Dortmund because yes, if they have a strong rivalry then surely Dortmund will not sell players to Bayern Munich. But what happens is, Dortmund have long produced many star players but with that success too, Dortmund are not reluctant to sell their star players to Bayern Munich. But even so, Dortmund always managed to be the shadow of Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga standings, and it remains an extraordinary hard work that Dortmund has every season.

[zuzie]

We wouldn't have seen Borussia Dortmund fight to the end if they didn't prioritize the Bundesliga last season, the fact that every team include Dortmund has an above average desire to win the Bundesliga trophy after so long. By winning the league they will find it easier to benefit from various sides such as sponsorship, increase the market value of the players register in it, and so on.

I think Borussia Dortmund really prioritized the Bundesliga last season and this was proven by the number of points they had and the resistance they showed in every game so that their rivals like Bayern Munich also experienced heavy pressure to win the title in the Bundesliga even though in the end Borussia Dortmund also had to lose by goal difference to Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. This is what I see so Borussia Dortmund are really serious in pursuing the championship in the Bundesliga last season.

Yes, that's right, that's what I try to explain to the author above me
Just because Borussia Dortmund give birth to several football superstars and then sold them even though they haven't managed to conquer the Bundesliga, doesn't mean they don't prioritize the League. If the profits from player sales is the basis, by winning the Bundesliga, Dortmund can get multiple benefits because automatically the value of players will also increase along with achievements with the club.

[Distraction]

I'm also positive about Leverkusen for this season. Normally they were already a strong member of top 4 in the Bundesliga. Things went sideways last season but still Xabi Alonso fixed the most of the problems lately. Finishing in 6th place after a beginning like that was a sign for doing better things this season I think.

In last season Union Berlin and Freiburg had a big opportunity to be a part of the last member of top 4 and Union Berlin made it. But for this season both of their job will be much more difficult against Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen.

I believe in Xabi Alonso to do a good job in the fight for a Champions League spot. This is his first proper experience as a manager but he is doing pretty well already. If he carries this team to the Champions League also then he might get the attention of bigger teams for a job offer maybe who knows.

[Leviathan.007]

I'm curious about Leverkusen's new season performance as well. They have made good progress with Xabi Alonso so far. They were near relegation zone before him and after he came they finished the season at the 6th position which helped them qualify for the Europa League group stage. This is just a wonderful improvement in performance.

But from now on the board would keep their expectations higher from Xabi Alonso. Their target would be to fight for top 4 to earn a Champions League spot just as they did previously. This isn't the most difficult task for him of course thinking of the capability of the players. Consistency will be key at this point.

Most people expect to see an even better performance from Leverkusen in the next season because in the last season, they had a team with fewer stars and on the other hand Xavi Alonso was not experienced enough however he had good performances but I think Leverkusen can do better in the next season because of Xabi Alonso.

[mv1986]

I'm also positive about Leverkusen for this season. Normally they were already a strong member of top 4 in the Bundesliga. Things went sideways last season but still Xabi Alonso fixed the most of the problems lately. Finishing in 6th place after a beginning like that was a sign for doing better things this season I think.

In last season Union Berlin and Freiburg had a big opportunity to be a part of the last member of top 4 and Union Berlin made it. But for this season both of their job will be much more difficult against Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen.

I believe in Xabi Alonso to do a good job in the fight for a Champions League spot. This is his first proper experience as a manager but he is doing pretty well already. If he carries this team to the Champions League also then he might get the attention of bigger teams for a job offer maybe who knows.

Union Berlin and Freiburg were the outliers that took two spots in the table that I thought would be taken by Leverkusen and maybe Frankfurt. Though Leverkusen fell so far behind that even a worse performance by Freiburg and Union Berlin might have been enough to stay ahead of them. For Freiburg it was still an exceptional season and for them it is a brand new start with lots of uncertainties and no ambitious goals to start with. In contrast, Leverkusen will certainly try to claim the Champions League qualifiers.

[Leviathan.007]

We wouldn't have seen Borussia Dortmund fight to the end if they didn't prioritize the Bundesliga last season, the fact that every team include Dortmund has an above average desire to win the Bundesliga trophy after so long. By winning the league they will find it easier to benefit from various sides such as sponsorship, increase the market value of the players register in it, and so on.

I think Borussia Dortmund really prioritized the Bundesliga last season and this was proven by the number of points they had and the resistance they showed in every game so that their rivals like Bayern Munich also experienced heavy pressure to win the title in the Bundesliga even though in the end Borussia Dortmund also had to lose by goal difference to Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. This is what I see so Borussia Dortmund are really serious in pursuing the championship in the Bundesliga last season.

In my opinion, Dortmund can be a better team than Bayern Munich if they change their goal and keep players like Haaland and other players they lost in the past, as we know Dortmund got more spectators than Bayern Munich and they have good potential as well. According to Wikipedia, Dortmund is even more popular than Bayern Munich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesliga#Attendances

[bestcoins1]

Sadio Mane has not been able to match himself in the Bayern Munich team so far. Sadio Mane's career changed drastically after he joined Bayern Munich from Liverpool. Bayern Munich coach Sadio Mane is failing to make the most of his team, let's see what he can do next.

Sadio Mane will do things that can make his career increase again next season because he also still has the ability to make achievements that can give Bayern Munich pride next season. Because he also doesn't want to fail again next season so he will still try to make bigger changes next season if his condition remains fit and not injured like what happened to him last season

[Rengga Jati]

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....In a worst case they would keep Kane and play the next season with him and then he could leave Tottenham as a free agent, but does a rich person like Levy even care? I think he would prefer to make some income from this transfer for Tottenham, but it would not be the end of the world if Kane stays for another year. ...

This will depend on each player himself, professionally, he certainly wants income or income that is in accordance with his career and anything related to it. but on the other hand, sometimes, the self-satisfaction of playing for the club he wants will also have a very good impact on the player. If there is a win-win solution for the player and the club, then this is what everyone hopes for. Here, if Harry Kane is reluctant to extend his contract with Tottenham and he enters a free agent, in fact Tottenham may also feel at a loss because after all they did not benefit from the transfer of this talented player. So, it seems that the two clubs are still considering the best plans and strategies. As happened with Mbappe, PSG and Real Madrid.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Regardless of what they want to do in the next season for Bayern Munic and Hire Harry Kane, I think they are going to have a good performance in the transfer market and since their main competitor, Dortmund lost their young and key player, in the next season Bayern Munich can even have easier season and again we are going to see another season in which Bayern Munich winning the league without competitors.
That's mostly because of the better and more investments they can have for their team while other teams don't have this good financial situation.  

Munich last season was not so good at the start of the season. but they are getting better and maybe you are right, when their competitors lose their key players, next season will be very easy for Munich. maybe even Munich will only focus on the Champions League. Don't underestimate the team in the Bundesliga. but Munich is still too strong for their competitors. Dortmund must at least invest in their best players for 3-5 years to break the domination of Munich. and so far that's not what Dortmund thought.

I think that if Bayern manages to have a good performance now they can show it by directly signing Kane and I think that many of the problems could be solved now, we all know that the giant hole left by Lewa was something that bled them a lot last season, no They have been able to overcome well what the emptiness of him leaves, but with a player like Harry Kane he would avoid winning the biggest prize of any lottery , I really would not hesitate, I would buy Kane , he would make a Second offer or whatever Necessary for him to join my Ranks.

Sadio Mane has not been able to match himself in the Bayern Munich team so far. Sadio Mane's career changed drastically after he joined Bayern Munich from Liverpool. Bayern Munich coach Sadio Mane is failing to make the most of his team, let's see what he can do next.

Sadio Mane will do things that can make his career increase again next season because he also still has the ability to make achievements that can give Bayern Munich pride next season. Because he also doesn't want to fail again next season so he will still try to make bigger changes next season if his condition remains fit and not injured like what happened to him last season

What I think of Sadio Mane is that he is a player who has to be given a chance, yes, it may be that when he was at Liverpool Mane shone a lot, but it's never too late, this player may have a lot of prejudices, since he wasn't there for his national team in the World Cup, apart from his injury he was very bad, and he already wants to do things right with himself, the least is that they give him the opportunity to do them and recover everything, we are hyumnaos, I think Bayern should Value this player a lot, now that he doesn't have any injuries they should give him playing time, they should take advantage of it and get all of his potential out, he is a very good player, they should take advantage of Harlop.

Bayern have a great thing they can do, sell Mane to finish bringing in a Harry Kane, a high-risk transfer, I would keep both, but if they ask for a lot of money for Kane, I think the best thing they are doing is this move, I would not really come out of this football genius.

Sadio Mane agrees personal terms with Al Nassr in surprising U-turn

Bayern Munich forward Sadio Mane has agreed a deal in principle to join Saudi Pro League side Al Nassr, sources have confirmed to 90min.

The former Liverpool star has been one of the more high-profile players linked with a move to the Middle East this transfer window.

Mane is coming off the back of a rather underwhelming debut season with Bayern, scoring 12 goals in 38 games across all competitions and rose to infamy when he got into a physical altercation with teammate Leroy Sane following a Champions League loss.

90min reported in May that Bayern would field offers for Mane, though he initially refused to discuss a move to Saudi Arabia.

Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/sadio-mane-agrees-personal-terms-al-nassr-surprising-u-turn

I really get the idea of Bayern, and it is to sell Mane to take a chance on him, not with the great Harry Kane, I just hope he doesn't regret it , personally I think things can happen, also it's not bad for Mane to go to a team from Arabaia, as I said, the Arab teams are risking everything, and this was an audacious move that was seen in the World Cup, where this country of Qatar showed that it was not for them ROI mattered, they only figured out which country is the best regardless of money, that's why I see that the Arab countries are hitting it hard, when we see it is that the Saudi League is going to be much more interesting than UEFA itself , I don't know , but I think that if they Continue like this it will hit that side.

And:

How Bayern Munich are funding Harry Kane transfer as Daniel Levy ponders huge Tottenham decision

Harry Kane's future at Tottenham is likely to be a topic of conversation throughout the summer transfer window. The 29-year-old sees his contract expire in 2024 and Daniel Levy must decide whether or not to cash in on his most prized asset.

Manchester United and Chelsea have been linked with the England international but Bayern Munich are the current favourites to sign the prolific goalscorer. The German giants have already had two bids rejected by the north Londoners, the latest worth £68.5million plus add-ons.

football.london has previously reported that all three options remain on the table for Kane; leave this summer, leave as a free agent in 2024 or sign a new deal later this year if the Ange Postecoglou era proves to be a success. In the latest development on Thursday, football.londonreported that the Englishman will not extend his contract with the Lilywhites this summer, although he could yet sign a new deal during the 2023/24 season to extend his stay at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.

Despite no intention of a long-term future at Spurs, football.london understands that Kane will not force an exit. That means it is now up to Bayern Munich to try and agree a fee with Levy, with the German giants Kane's favoured destination if he were to move, according to The Times.

Source: https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/transfer-news/harry-kane-transfer-tottenham-bayern-27363908

As I have said before, the efforts are going towards Harry Kane, but the money they have to sell to a Sadio Mane will be so much that I am sure that he will be able to do everything of himself to be able to contribute more to this team? this team really needs to ensure good players and perform well, Bayern is seriously in danger until the Bundesliga, they need to ensure good leadership from the beginning, as for the UCL, even more so, they need to do a better job to go further.

Well that's my perception, I don't know if anyone thinks like me , but I base it a lot on the fact that Dormtund is now the main contender for this team and that's why they have to take care of themselves, especially Union Berlin and well , any Bundesliga team , I think we all expect a lot from this team.

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Yes there were a lot of doubts about them last season, myself included, and after Xabi Alonso took over the reigns, they slowly made changes and kept improving their ranking. Just like you I was also impressed with what Leverkusen did last season. It's not easy for a club to make such improvements, especially since their position at the start of the season was very disappointing.
Mental needs to be formed in such circumstances, because otherwise it will greatly impact their motivation when playing on the field. Next season, I think they will be able to show the same thing, or even better than last season.

Of course next season will be an era of Leverkusen renaissance because they seem to have found a coach who can bring the team back in a better direction and Xabi Alonso will make Leverkusen stronger next season. Recruitment of players is also very good that has been done by Leverkusen where they managed to get Granit xhaka from Arsenal, who will be an additional power in their depth next season.

But recently we saw that Moussa Diaby who was a key player in the depth of Leverkusen squad has left for the Aston Villa team with a high release clause. Now Moussa Diaby departure must be immediately addressed by Leverkusen management in this transfer window in order to stabilize the strength of their team next season.

[Docnaster]

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....In a worst case they would keep Kane and play the next season with him and then he could leave Tottenham as a free agent, but does a rich person like Levy even care? I think he would prefer to make some income from this transfer for Tottenham, but it would not be the end of the world if Kane stays for another year. ...

This will depend on each player himself, professionally, he certainly wants income or income that is in accordance with his career and anything related to it. but on the other hand, sometimes, the self-satisfaction of playing for the club he wants will also have a very good impact on the player. If there is a win-win solution for the player and the club, then this is what everyone hopes for. Here, if Harry Kane is reluctant to extend his contract with Tottenham and he enters a free agent, in fact Tottenham may also feel at a loss because after all they did not benefit from the transfer of this talented player. So, it seems that the two clubs are still considering the best plans and strategies. As happened with Mbappe, PSG and Real Madrid.

Harry Kane has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that he's one of the most consistent and best strikers of world football and deserves to be allowed to make his choice of which club he has decided to leave Tottenham for.
The striker has given out his best for the club and should be allowed to go to a club like Bayern where there's very much chances of winning major trophies before he retires from football

[CLS63]

Kane doesn't want to insist on his departure if there is no agreement between Bayern Munich and Tottenham. He actually wants to sign for Bayern Munich now but it isn't like his only option now. If this agreement doesn't happen then he is okay about waiting until the end of his contract to leave for free. As long as he has the kind of a signing he wants it doesn't look like he cares if it is now or in a year. Tottenham must be the one to be worried about this situation now.

Levy's continuing to be stubborn will take them nowhere. He will have Kane for only one last season and that's it.

[Blitzboy]

I'm not sure about Leipzig's income and the owners of this team but I know Leipzig had a perfect performance the last season and they got the third place in the table while because of the mistakes from both Dortmund and Bayern Munich, they could even race for the title with these two teams, but since Leipzig is going to play in the next champions league I think they should invest more for their team and improve themselves.

RB Leipzig was completely prepared to compete with the bundesliga's two premier clubs, and I believe their prior performance has boosted their strength to challenge for the season league title next season. RB Leipzig will compete in the UEFA Champions League next season, and all of the players will have to buckle up and confront a new set of challenges. It will undoubtedly be a competitive environment for both the players and the coach. Marco Rose, the Red Bulls coach, is always ready to accept new difficulties and figure out how to solve them without hesitation.

RB Leipzig's Bundesliga rise is obvious. People saw their gutsy play. The Bundesliga is tough, as you know. They've prepared, but can they win? That's tough. They lost major stars, right? Like Bayern's Konrad Laimer and Chelsea's Nkunku. I envy those guys that join huge clubs, you know? That loss must hurt the Red Bulls. You can't just remove them and expect everything to be OK. Marco Rose is a competent instructor. He doesn't avoid work. He'll be interesting to watch with new cards this season. Sports are hard, right?

[QueenVera]

 According to the news, Sadio Mane has agreed personal terms with the Saudi side Al Nassr and could be moving to the club very soon, so the Bundesliga Liga side are in search of another striker that would fill in the gap left by the Senegalese  star, and Harry Kane is the perfect man for them,though talks are still ongoing with his club but he's already agreed personal terms to move to Bayern Munich but would have to wait for the final decision of the club's chairman Daniel Levy who is reluctant to sell and have had two bids from the Bundesliga champions rejected by him,they are so desperate for the signature of Harry Kane and would lunch another bid very soon
 The frontline is not the only role that Bayern are looking to work on, it is said that they are monitoring the situation of Liverpool midfielder Fabinho, who is said to be completing a deal with another Saudi team Al-Ittihad and a deal could be finalised during the weekend or so, I feel the midfield issue last season has prompted them to seek other alternatives that would pair with Joshua Kimmich and Fabinho is a player of great quality and would add an extra force and creativity in the midfield of Bayern, with his good passing and defence ability, but since he's close to joining the Saudi side, I'm not sure they'll get him without a fight in the transfer window.

[AndySt]

Kane doesn't want to insist on his departure if there is no agreement between Bayern Munich and Tottenham. He actually wants to sign for Bayern Munich now but it isn't like his only option now. If this agreement doesn't happen then he is okay about waiting until the end of his contract to leave for free. As long as he has the kind of a signing he wants it doesn't look like he cares if it is now or in a year. Tottenham must be the one to be worried about this situation now. Levy's continuing to be stubborn will take them nowhere. He will have Kane for only one last season and that's it.

I still think that the necessary balance will be found and Kane will still move from Tottenham to Bayern Munich in this transfer window. Nevertheless, the age of a football player is short and it is better not to postpone the transition for another year. Ken is a wonderful age for a football player, but still not the same as Mbappe to painlessly wait another season.