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October 09, 2024, 04:25:47 PM
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It is quite interesting until week 6 of the Bundesliga and currently there is a 2-week international break. I was quite surprised by the Bundesliga Top Scorer, it turned out that it was not Kane but Marmoush who played Eintracht Frankfurt.
1. Omar Marmoush 8 goals
2. Ermedin Demirovic 5 goals
3. Harry Kane 5 goals
4. Jonathan Burkardt 5 goals
5. Florian Wirtz 4 goals
Seeing this, it seems to be a matter of attracting competition to get the most goals this season. Harry Kane seems to have a lot of competitors and is getting tougher.

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/stats/players/goals
At last, we're seeing new players taking the highest goal scorers spot and it's equally amusing the players are not in Bayern Munich which brings me to wonder if there aren't better goal scorers than the English forward at Bayern Munich. Anyways, that's not the point. The way I see it, more clubs and players began to get confidence to shine after Bayer Leverkusen took the title spot from Bayern Munich and the way I see it Vincent Kompany's boys won't be able to hold on to that spot for too long being that there's now serious competition from other clubs. I admit, last season and this one has given the Bundesliga a new light because it no longer looked like a farmers league where it was only Bayern Munich calling the shots but more parties are being involved making it a bit difficult to predict who might cart away the trophy at the end of the season.

The difference in my opinion is because the distribution of goals that Bayern Munich can score is even, meaning it is not only dominated by one person and Harry Kane is the biggest contributor of goals that Bayern Munich can create. In the 6 matches they have played, they have created 20 goals, which is a lot. Actually there is nothing to be concerned about here, in fact I see it as a good thing, because Bayern Munich players can create goals just as well. It should also be remembered that this is a team game and not always pure strikers have to score more goals. Actually there is a role that is more than just scoring goals, because they also have a role where they must be able to open up space for other players to be able to create goals, because the results are not for individual players but for the team.

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October 09, 2024, 06:09:28 PM
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In the last few seasons Leipzig has always managed to finish in the top four of the standings, and that proves that they are indeed one of the top teams with impressive performance, but what is unfortunate is that they always fail to win trophies, I don't know what is stopping them,
Yes they are always in the top spots of the table when the season have ended and for sure they are one of the Top Teams in the German League.
But there are also other Teams that made a good progress in the last years and getting better , just look at Leverkusen and also Stuttgart and Frankfurt.
Lets see what will coming in Leipzig next year when Jürgen Klopp will getting involved in the Red Bull Company.
https://web.de/magazine/sport/fussball/aufgabe-star-trainer-juergen-klopp-red-bull-40212916

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October 09, 2024, 06:10:25 PM
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Sure. I can’t also give Leipzig a guarantee to win the title because they are already at the top of the table, but the fact still remains that the season is still in its early stages, so we can decide which high team will be champion this season. However, Bayern Leverkusen are still doing better, and I believe their mission is to get to the top of the table too. They are doing good; if they get to the top, they are going to try their best to maintain the position, but let's see, as you said, the season is early. We need to wait and see which club will be consistent till the end of the season.
They still have a lot of matches to go through so to guarantee Leipzig to come out as champions is still too early. The question is how long they can maintain consistency and what if some of the main players are injured. What is feared is that when entering the second half of the season Leipzig will lose momentum to maintain victory so that the points they have will be chased by the challengers.

Bayern Munich leads the standings despite having the same number of points as Leipzig so there are many surprises to come in the next match. The same goes for the third to fifth challengers because the points are not far apart so anything is still possible.
Leipzig is a strong club and they have never made it easy for big clubs every season. They are always competing for the title race but have not being able to win the league so far, they are always among top four at the end of the season. It is quite surprising to see how in form they are currently and are desperate to top the table. But how long will they keep to their consistency, injury might be ax challenge to them in future.

Bayern is still the favorite to win the league but if they fail to be consistent with their performance, we might still see a different club winning the league this season.

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October 09, 2024, 07:01:50 PM
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In the last few seasons Leipzig has always managed to finish in the top four of the standings, and that proves that they are indeed one of the top teams with impressive performance, but what is unfortunate is that they always fail to win trophies, I don't know what is stopping them,
Yes they are always in the top spots of the table when the season have ended and for sure they are one of the Top Teams in the German League.
But there are also other Teams that made a good progress in the last years and getting better , just look at Leverkusen and also Stuttgart and Frankfurt.
Lets see what will coming in Leipzig next year when Jürgen Klopp will getting involved in the Red Bull Company.
https://web.de/magazine/sport/fussball/aufgabe-star-trainer-juergen-klopp-red-bull-40212916
The owner of Leipzig seems know well how to managed this team because although Leipzig has been several times to changing the manager but the performance of this team is very stable in Bundesliga and they might be cannot be considered as strong contender for race title but Leipzig can successfully to finish at top 4 or playing at champion league since 2018/2019 season so i personally admitting Leipzig as strong team in Bundesliga and this season while other teams just like Dortmund or Leverkusen has slow start in Bundesliga but until week 6 Leipzig can keep up Bayern Munich and they have equal points on League standing

About Klopp after leaving Liverpool he has decide to rest from football and apparently he keep his promise until today i found one interesting news about Klopp that he has been accept the offers from Red Bull Company but Klopp position not as a manager that he is more likely as the advisor to Red Bull's clubs and with his experience to train Bundesliga teams just like Dortmund and Mainz i am sure Klopp will bringing those clubs to gets the better results

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October 09, 2024, 09:00:16 PM
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I've just learned that Leipzig is currently the 3rd richest club in the Bundesliga, regardless of whether we look at the revenue generation or market value. I think if they keep finishing at the top each season, there's a chance they could overtake Borussia Dortmund for the title of Bayern's most serious rival.
So far they're doing very well in the league, but they seem to be overly focused on the defence, with only 2 goals lost in 6 games, which is a great result, but maybe shifting more towards an offensive stance would benefit them more. They've only scored 9 goals, which is much less than any other of the top clubs.



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October 09, 2024, 09:02:57 PM
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Do you guys think Leipzig is a serious contender for the title and could give Bayern a run for their money? Or are they not strong enough to keep it up?
They're a bit weird team, they've been doing really good in the past years and would always finish somewhere in the top, but nobody ever mentions them as a serious prospect for the league winner. They had a big away win against Leverkusen (3-2) this season and currently have the same points as Bayern, but are not doing that great in the Champions League as they've lost their first 2 games.

Leipzig look quite strong now but I can't ever be confident about them. We have seen many examples of it. They just can't be consistent until the end of a season. I won't be surprised if it happens again. I mean they are one of the richest teams in the Bundesliga actually.  Smiley  But they lack the strength in many ways compared to a team like Bayern Munich for example.

I don't say such thing as "Leipzig will never win a league title." or so. But it is very difficult to predict early in the season. I'm always okay with seeing different champions. But I really want Kane to win his first title at the same time.  Grin

Although it is very rare to say or predict Leipzig to be able to compete for the Bundesliga trophy, but still, basically I always calculate or consider Leipzig every season to be in the top four. Therefore, when Leipzig plays against seeded teams in the Bundesliga, I personally always find it difficult to convince myself what kind of results will happen when Leipzig plays against other top teams in the Bundesliga. But even so, in reality, indeed that Leipzig always finds it difficult to maintain its consistency to stay on track for the trophy.

However, if we only consider the top four positions, then of course Leipzig always consistently competes in the top four or at least in the upper zone of the Bundesliga standings and that is not at all bad compared to Dortmund who always competes for the trophy with Bayern Munich, but in reality it was Bayer Leverkusen who managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance last season.

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October 09, 2024, 10:26:31 PM
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Recently in the games I saw in the Bundesliga from Dortmund during this season, Karim Adeyemi was the most effective player for this team and he was more than just a normal player for his team. Usually, without Karim Adeyemi, they won't be able to have the same good performance and this can be a great damage for Dortmund if they play without Karim Adeyemi.
Now since he got injured in the game against Celtic, he hasn't been able to help his team for some weeks.
The worst thing for Adeyemi and Dortmund is he will be absent in the game against Real Madrid in the Champions League which can definitely make everything much harder for Dortmund.


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October 09, 2024, 10:58:48 PM
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Recently in the games I saw in the Bundesliga from Dortmund during this season, Karim Adeyemi was the most effective player for this team and he was more than just a normal player for his team. Usually, without Karim Adeyemi, they won't be able to have the same good performance and this can be a great damage for Dortmund if they play without Karim Adeyemi.
Now since he got injured in the game against Celtic, he hasn't been able to help his team for some weeks.
The worst thing for Adeyemi and Dortmund is he will be absent in the game against Real Madrid in the Champions League which can definitely make everything much harder for Dortmund.


What dependence can cost a team is something we cannot dispute or even make a deal about as it has become obvious in the case of Dortmund and they cannot even hide it as its always coming out so clear but then they can fall back to their defense to coming to the rescue as if they have got lesser goal conceded they wouldn't be doing bad after all but then that will mean them resulting to a defensive style of play which isn't their style most times as they are facing a really tough and experienced champions league team. Just like their custom is, by summer they may be selling off Adeyemi since he's now injury prone and a key player they can make good money off.

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October 09, 2024, 11:33:39 PM
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Now since he got injured in the game against Celtic, he hasn't been able to help his team for some weeks.
The worst thing for Adeyemi and Dortmund is he will be absent in the game against Real Madrid in the Champions League which can definitely make everything much harder for Dortmund.
Again and again injuries are scary for players and clubs. Edeyemi has so far become one of Dortmund's mainstay players. As a left winger, his contribution is very good, from 5 appearances in BUndesliga, he has contributed 2 goals and 3 assists. and in UEFA Europa League, 3 goals and 1 assist. Yes, based on the news, Karim will undergo recovery for a Torn muscle fiber injury and will only return on November 20, 2024. so, he will really be absent during the important match against Real Madrid in the UCL.


Source: Karim Adeyemi contribution

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund will face St Pauli and I think even if Eedeyemi doesn't play, it shouldn't be too disruptive. So some of the main top players will be able to focus more on preparing physically for the UCL a few days later.

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October 09, 2024, 11:57:49 PM
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They still have a lot of matches to go through so to guarantee Leipzig to come out as champions is still too early. The question is how long they can maintain consistency and what if some of the main players are injured. What is feared is that when entering the second half of the season Leipzig will lose momentum to maintain victory so that the points they have will be chased by the challengers.

Bayern Munich leads the standings despite having the same number of points as Leipzig so there are many surprises to come in the next match. The same goes for the third to fifth challengers because the points are not far apart so anything is still possible.
Leipzig is a strong club and they have never made it easy for big clubs every season. They are always competing for the title race but have not being able to win the league so far, they are always among top four at the end of the season. It is quite surprising to see how in form they are currently and are desperate to top the table. But how long will they keep to their consistency, injury might be ax challenge to them in future.
I don't have confidence in Leipzig and I think they are the most inconsistent club in the German Bundesliga. Instead of Leipzig, I trust Stuttgart more because they can maintain some level of consistency. I have lost count of how many times Leipzig messed up my selection by simply failing to score many goals in a match they should be loading the opponents with many goals. They are also fond of getting a draw with small teams that one would expect them to win without blinking an eye. They might appear strong this season but at the end of the day, they will maintain status quo.












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October 10, 2024, 01:02:25 AM
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They still have a lot of matches to go through so to guarantee Leipzig to come out as champions is still too early. The question is how long they can maintain consistency and what if some of the main players are injured. What is feared is that when entering the second half of the season Leipzig will lose momentum to maintain victory so that the points they have will be chased by the challengers.

Bayern Munich leads the standings despite having the same number of points as Leipzig so there are many surprises to come in the next match. The same goes for the third to fifth challengers because the points are not far apart so anything is still possible.
Leipzig is a strong club and they have never made it easy for big clubs every season. They are always competing for the title race but have not being able to win the league so far, they are always among top four at the end of the season. It is quite surprising to see how in form they are currently and are desperate to top the table. But how long will they keep to their consistency, injury might be ax challenge to them in future.
I don't have confidence in Leipzig and I think they are the most inconsistent club in the German Bundesliga. Instead of Leipzig, I trust Stuttgart more because they can maintain some level of consistency. I have lost count of how many times Leipzig messed up my selection by simply failing to score many goals in a match they should be loading the opponents with many goals. They are also fond of getting a draw with small teams that one would expect them to win without blinking an eye. They might appear strong this season but at the end of the day, they will maintain status quo.
I am also like you I often missed the chance to win in Leipzig but we also have to see Leipzig is not a big club and they also do not have many quality players so I think putting hope in them is difficult even though sometimes they score a lot of goals and in the next game they do nothing like when against St. Pauli they drew and I think it is not fair how they drew with a promoted team that is easier for them to beat but the result was a draw and I think putting hope in them is wrong and until now I can not trust them anymore and I think Leipzig is not a strong team they are just an ordinary team.

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October 10, 2024, 03:15:25 AM
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Now since he got injured in the game against Celtic, he hasn't been able to help his team for some weeks.
The worst thing for Adeyemi and Dortmund is he will be absent in the game against Real Madrid in the Champions League which can definitely make everything much harder for Dortmund.
Again and again injuries are scary for players and clubs. Edeyemi has so far become one of Dortmund's mainstay players. As a left winger, his contribution is very good, from 5 appearances in BUndesliga, he has contributed 2 goals and 3 assists. and in UEFA Europa League, 3 goals and 1 assist. Yes, based on the news, Karim will undergo recovery for a Torn muscle fiber injury and will only return on November 20, 2024. so, he will really be absent during the important match against Real Madrid in the UCL.


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For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund will face St Pauli and I think even if Eedeyemi doesn't play, it shouldn't be too disruptive. So some of the main top players will be able to focus more on preparing physically for the UCL a few days later.
Both of them are experiencing injury problems to their mainstay players so it is not yet a serious problem for Dortmund even though Dortmund plays against Real Madrid without Karim Adeyemi but it is not easy for Dortmund to beat Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabéu at least they can hold Real Madrid to a draw considering their good performance lately but what is clear is that their match will be very fierce like watching last season's Champions League final Real Madrid also just lost points in the previous match so they most likely do not want to lose points again.

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October 10, 2024, 05:58:17 AM
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Bayern Munich results aren't that top. They indeed scored a lot of goals in some matches but they used to win more than that. Six rounds finished until now and Bayern Munich already got 2 draws. Luckily Bayer Leverkusen doesn't have a winning strike again otherwise it will be a hard season this time also.
By the way this round is upsetting for all top teams with an only exception for Leipzig which made a victory.
I think Bayern Munich performance is not really conditioned even though in several previous matches they showed very extraordinary game and achieved success by winning big, they have not been able to perform consistently and stably for now.
But the competition is still ongoing and what Bayern Munich has obtained is still safe result because they are not left behind by the teams below them, while Bayern Munich is still at the top of the standings even though they have suffered two draws against Leverkusen and also Eintracht Frankfurt.
But for Leipzig and Leverkusen, it can be admitted that Leipzig performance is really very satisfying and they are also team that can match Bayern Munich in terms of points and without defeat, it just that no one knows what Leipzig will appear like next.
Honestly, i didn't really expect a better start from Bayern Munich cause I doubted this present coach couldn't better than Thomas Tuchel based on he coached relegated team in the EPL but I think I fancy what the former Manchester City legend (Kompany) is doing at Bayern Munich currently, this is his first time to coach a top club and so far his stats is impressive with them, even he's got several draw like you guys think, 4 win and 2 draws in 6 games is not a bad one, he didn't draw against smaller teams in the league he drew against Leverkusen that's the defending champions and Eintracht Frankfurt, that's had an impressive start so far in this current season, atleast they're still unbeaten and they're toping the league which is very important. Kompany just need to ensure that he doesn't lose any match at this early stages or allow either Leipzig or Leverkusen get past them on the standings. Well, it's still too early to decide but it's going to be very tough for Bayern Munich to contend against this current inform Leipzig team and the defending champions Leverkusen.
In football anything can happen, Kompany could even give big surprise by showing real performance by bringing change and development to Bayern Munich in his first season, although it does seem like something that Kompany has little chance of realizing.
And as I said, no one knows how Leipzig will develop and perform in the future, even Leverkusen, because maintaining the best performance consistently and stably is not something that can be easily done, especially since there are many rumors about several Leverkusen players who will leave in the upcoming transfer window.
This is very interesting because Xabi performance will also be tested if it is true that several core players will leave, this is matter of team competition and coaches in how to handle each team to bring them to title fight.
Haha Kompany, Xabi and also Marco Rose who is the Leipzig coach, can he work well and maintain his squad performance for this season, but I will not include Dortmund in the title fight candidates for the 2024/25 Bundesliga.

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October 10, 2024, 06:32:24 AM
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Again and again injuries are scary for players and clubs. Edeyemi has so far become one of Dortmund's mainstay players. As a left winger, his contribution is very good, from 5 appearances in BUndesliga, he has contributed 2 goals and 3 assists. and in UEFA Europa League, 3 goals and 1 assist. Yes, based on the news, Karim will undergo recovery for a Torn muscle fiber injury and will only return on November 20, 2024. so, he will really be absent during the important match against Real Madrid in the UCL.


Source: Karim Adeyemi contribution

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund will face St Pauli and I think even if Eedeyemi doesn't play, it shouldn't be too disruptive. So some of the main top players will be able to focus more on preparing physically for the UCL a few days later.
With such injuries, you don't just return to the lineup so quickly. It seems to me that November 20 is a preliminary date that should not be paid much attention to. And what about the recovery period? It also takes a certain amount of time, which the team loses without such a productive player. Well, it happens in football. It is an inevitable part of this sport and injuries are normal here.

 
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October 10, 2024, 07:33:43 AM
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Again and again injuries are scary for players and clubs. Edeyemi has so far become one of Dortmund's mainstay players. As a left winger, his contribution is very good, from 5 appearances in BUndesliga, he has contributed 2 goals and 3 assists. and in UEFA Europa League, 3 goals and 1 assist. Yes, based on the news, Karim will undergo recovery for a Torn muscle fiber injury and will only return on November 20, 2024. so, he will really be absent during the important match against Real Madrid in the UCL.


Source: Karim Adeyemi contribution

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund will face St Pauli and I think even if Eedeyemi doesn't play, it shouldn't be too disruptive. So some of the main top players will be able to focus more on preparing physically for the UCL a few days later.
With such injuries, you don't just return to the lineup so quickly. It seems to me that November 20 is a preliminary date that should not be paid much attention to. And what about the recovery period? It also takes a certain amount of time, which the team loses without such a productive player. Well, it happens in football. It is an inevitable part of this sport and injuries are normal here.
Injuries are an inevitable part of football and may greatly affect Dortmund performance in the next match, but so far Dortmund are not a team that relies on individual players so I think the injury will not interfere too much with their preparation to face St Pauli and even Madrid in the Champions League, indeed he is currently one of Dortmund mainstay players in the front line, but I see Nuri Sain have Julian Hettwer in their squad and he hasn't made his debut for Dortmund in the Bundesliga, so I think it's time for Nuri Sain to try to rotate Adeyemi with Julian Hettwer in the match against St Pauli who are relatively weaker than them, in addition to Julian Hettwer actually Dortmund also has Jamie Gittens who plays in the left wing position all this time and I think he is quite worthy to replace Adeyemi in the match Crucial like facing Madrid later, I think with Adeyemi absence at this time, it could actually be an opportunity for Nuri Sain to promote or play their young players in the first squad to see the quality their have.

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October 10, 2024, 08:18:44 AM
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I've just learned that Leipzig is currently the 3rd richest club in the Bundesliga, regardless of whether we look at the revenue generation or market value. I think if they keep finishing at the top each season, there's a chance they could overtake Borussia Dortmund for the title of Bayern's most serious rival.
So far they're doing very well in the league, but they seem to be overly focused on the defence, with only 2 goals lost in 6 games, which is a great result, but maybe shifting more towards an offensive stance would benefit them more. They've only scored 9 goals, which is much less than any other of the top clubs.



This is something new to me too, but when you look at their financial strength, it's actually not surprising that they are in the top 3 as the richest clubs in the Bundesliga. They can also compete at the top, although not that consistent, but that's a good thing, they just need to improve it again. Leipzig is actually a club that is indeed taken into account in the Bundesliga, but they may not have the mentality to be champions. They need to improve again, not only in the game but also in their mentality they must be able to improve it. Because in football, mentality is a very important thing to be able to achieve an achievement, because without mentality they will not get anything in my opinion.

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October 10, 2024, 09:49:39 AM
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Leipzig is a strong club and they have never made it easy for big clubs every season. They are always competing for the title race but have not being able to win the league so far, they are always among top four at the end of the season. It is quite surprising to see how in form they are currently and are desperate to top the table. But how long will they keep to their consistency, injury might be ax challenge to them in future.

Bayern is still the favorite to win the league but if they fail to be consistent with their performance, we might still see a different club winning the league this season.
As a title contender I agree that Leipzig have the ability to do so but towards the end of the season they lost the ability to maintain their position in gaining points so in the end they always failed to come out as Bundesliga champions. If you pay attention to the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich are always talked about and they always dominate every season although surprisingly Leverkusen were able to break their dominance last season.

Bayern Munich are still the favorites now because if you look at them they are much better than last season. Kompany was initially doubted as a coach and his ability was still quite questionable, but over time he proved his best so that Bayern Munich became more consistent.

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October 10, 2024, 10:37:30 AM
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There's a report that Real Madrid have officially entered the race to Bayer Leverkusen defender Jonathan Tah as a free agent by June. The 28-year old German born star have been the leader of Bayer Leverkusen's defense and was one of the major reasons Leverkusen was able to finish last season without conceding a league defeat last season. Considering the history of Real Madrid, this I think will be very difficult for the Germany international to reject. Do you think he might want to reject the deal?

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October 10, 2024, 11:08:13 AM
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There's a report that Real Madrid have officially entered the race to Bayer Leverkusen defender Jonathan Tah as a free agent by June. The 28-year old German born star have been the leader of Bayer Leverkusen's defense and was one of the major reasons Leverkusen was able to finish last season without conceding a league defeat last season. Considering the history of Real Madrid, this I think will be very difficult for the Germany international to reject. Do you think he might want to reject the deal?

Tah's contract is ending by June 2025? I didn't know that. Then I would absolutely recommend them to push for him in January. He is a brilliant defender so far and getting him for free would be a great deal.  Cool

However the thing is about how much he is bonded with Leverkusen now... He had a dream season and played an important role in it himself at the same time. How eager is he to leave the team now?

Considering we are talking about a team like Real Madrid going after him, I think he would seriously think about the idea. He can play regularly there while Real Madrid is having defender problems due to various reasons.

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October 10, 2024, 12:03:08 PM
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I am also like you I often missed the chance to win in Leipzig but we also have to see Leipzig is not a big club and they also do not have many quality players so I think putting hope in them is difficult even though sometimes they score a lot of goals and in the next game they do nothing like when against St. Pauli they drew and I think it is not fair how they drew with a promoted team that is easier for them to beat but the result was a draw and I think putting hope in them is wrong and until now I can not trust them anymore and I think Leipzig is not a strong team they are just an ordinary team.
This season Leipzig could make quite a lot of changes and differences compared to last season because of the six matches that Leipzig have played, four of them have been won by Leipzig and the other two ended in a draw including when Leipzig faced the promoted team St. Pauli. This means that at the start of this season, Leipzig has not experienced defeat in a match in the Bundesliga, so this is a very fundamental difference for Leipzig and can also be a candidate to become champions this season if Leipzig can continue to be consistent in getting full points in very important matches.

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