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August 15, 2023, 02:30:15 AM
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What are their Champions League goals? I doubt that the Champions League title is determined by Harry Kane alone. That doesn't apply to any player whatsoever. Neither was Messi able to bring home the CL title frequently nor was Ronaldo able to bring it home without interruption. Kane is a great addition and clearly fills a gap that caused Bayern to have problems last season, but before we talk about their Champions League dreams, I think it would be smart to see how they will do in the Bundesliga once Kane has arrived fully in the team and gets to play a few games with his new team.
Yes, because it needs to be noted that one player can never be a determinant of a club being able to become a champion, especially for the Champions League which is the most important league of all existing leagues because it contains the strongest clubs of several existing domestic leagues.
I'm not sure that Kane can lead Bayern Munich to win the Champions League, considering that Bayern Munich himself was previously always eliminated when competing in the Champions League, so in conclusion all Bayern Munich players are not worthy or unable to fight for the title, even though now Kane is with them, it will still be difficult because of a the club needs great players from all over not just one or two players.
Like Ronaldo Messi or even Haaland from Manchester City, they can bring the club they defend to win the Champions League title because the club contains great players and of course they are very skilled in every game.

But for my Bundesliga there is still a possibility that Kane can make a big contribution so that Bayern Munich can win this domestic title.

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August 15, 2023, 03:55:50 AM
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I'm not trying to justify Kane ability but it was shameful for Bayern to allow Olmo to have a hattrick in match, that's very poor of them but I didn't put the fault on him thought, their defenders were nothing but Crack floppy disk that were not ready to do much. Leipzig is good, no cap about that but in that match, Bayern has more qualified players than Leipzig and the manager didn't start Kane which was understandable but still, they played nonsense match or who knows because it wasn't Bundesliga that's why, they would have indirectly put it on Kane to be a bad luck to their team.

Bayern Munich last match was 2 days ago and with their next match against Bremen will be cool to watch, I want Tuchel give him more time to play, like starting the match and not be bench so he can lend sharply with the rest of the teams.
Thomas Tuchel will have to make amends this time by winning the Bundesliga without too much pressure and conquering unprecedented levels in the UEFA Champions League this season. Bayern Munich were humiliated by their fellow finalist in the tournament, RB Leipzig, after losing 3 nil in the German Super Cup, one of the most important trophies for the Bundesliga giant. Giving up three goals is an awful lot. Is Harry Kane to blame? Of course, he shouldn't be held accountable for replacing Mathys Tel in the 64th minute of the second half. He needs time to become acquainted with his new teammates and coach pattern. Olmo scored an hat-trick against Bayern Munich and was thoroughly prepared for the game, alongside his team, a good results is basically what a team gets when they do their best on the pitch.

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August 15, 2023, 04:15:13 AM
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Thomas Tuchel will have to make amends this time by winning the Bundesliga without too much pressure and conquering unprecedented levels in the UEFA Champions League this season. Bayern Munich were humiliated by their fellow finalist in the tournament, RB Leipzig, after losing 3 nil in the German Super Cup, one of the most important trophies for the Bundesliga giant. Giving up three goals is an awful lot. Is Harry Kane to blame? Of course, he shouldn't be held accountable for replacing Mathys Tel in the 64th minute of the second half. He needs time to become acquainted with his new teammates and coach pattern. Olmo scored an hat-trick against Bayern Munich and was thoroughly prepared for the game, alongside his team, a good results is basically what a team gets when they do their best on the pitch.
Harry Kane will help his new club score a lot of goals in Bundesliga matches, the DFL Super Cup is a warm-up match for him because it is his first appearance and he hasn't spent a long time in training camp with his teammates so everything needs adaptation. The first match against Werder Bremen in the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich must perform better and not let mistake after mistake continue to be made because it will make their performance very bad.
There should be no doubt that Bayern Munich will win their first match in the Bundesliga even though this is an away game because they are always superior when they face Bremen, moreover their opponents not experience many changes to their squad so it is quite doubtful that Bremen will provide tough resistance later, Tuchel and his squad must not underestimate their opponent because anything is possible, especially if they perceive their opponent as not a balanced opponent and easy to beat.

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August 15, 2023, 06:29:32 AM
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There are problems in defense, it's obvious, Ulreich is not the goalkeeper who can adequately spend the whole season. They focused all their energy on buying Kane, but completely missed the point that they have a much more serious problem with the goalkeeper. By the way, the Bayern attack also had a rather weak match, and Leipzig is an uncomfortable opponent for Bayern, but when Bayern cannot score a single goal in the entire match, this is also alarming.
Ultimately making Yann Sommer go to Inter is also a problem for them because as you said, Ulreich still hasn't been able to make some good waves with his form even though he still can but to make him a starter for a full season + Champions League and DFB I think this will burden him as a goalkeeper.
There's still about 2 weeks to see if they'll bring back a goalkeeper or make a gamble on Ulreich.
While they are doing their best for fixing all problems but still creating few other holes for themselves as well with selling of Yann Sommer is surely not wise decision from them with they were doing their best for bringing Harry Kane here at Allainz Arena, they have done another mistake which is surely can give them big problem in coming matches if they are not going to fix this quickly.

Even they have few good players in defence which can do better after adjustment and having some matches as well Ullreich is surely not person which can carry on for the Bayern Munich because his performance in first match is below then average which is surely problem for them.

Thomas Tuchel is one of the coach who quickly learn from his mistakes and have changed in strategy as well so with this defeat most chances he will also do few changes and make better things for the first match on Friday.
I don't really know why they immediately released Yann Sommer with Neuer still unavailable but there will definitely be some circumstances where Tuchel will do something about it.
Ulreich's game didn't look too good and it would be a bit of a risk to force him.
The rumor mill has been buzzing about Kepa and De Gea being brought to the Alianz Arena but Kepa already belongs to Madrid with his loan to Chelsea some time ago and now it is just waiting to see if the rumors about De Gea are true or not.

Honestly, I expect a change for the defense now, especially for the goalkeeper.

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August 15, 2023, 07:22:11 AM
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You could see that Tel doesnt have the experience to score goals, he had two very good chances and a worldclass striker have scored two goals. The defense of bayern münchen is good, but Dani Olmo had his best day, the second goal of him was sensationally nice. But I also think that the coach Thomas Tuchel is a problem for bayern and the management does not want to say "this was a mistake". Nagelsmann should never have left, after them much was worse.

Now there is no point in admitting that dismissing Negelsman was a big mistake, but in fact it is. And in fact, after the match for the Supercup, everything looks bad if Bayern lost 0-1, or 1-2 it would not be so critical, but in fact Leipzig did not leave Bayern any chance. Even if Kane adapts and starts scoring goals, Bayern still have big problems with the goalkeeper, and there is no positive news regarding Neuer, according to preliminary forecasts, he will not be able to return to the game before 2024.



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August 15, 2023, 07:34:04 AM
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Somehow I find the timing at Bayern Munich debatable. First they announce that Yann Sommer is leaving the club. And just one day later, Bayern Munich announces that Manuel Neuer is not yet fit. Did the problems and difficulties in Neuer's rehabilitation suddenly arise? I doubt it. It was obvious that Yann Sommer had no future at the club. But why was  he not told that right from the start?
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August 15, 2023, 08:19:40 AM
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What do you guys think about Bayern's opening game in the Bundesliga against Werder Bremen? Quotes are good (same as they were for City vs Burnley):

9.20 - 6.00 - 1.30

and I'm waiting for a repeat of the result: the team, hurt by the loss of the Super Bowl, confidently beats the outsider. Plus, it's hard to believe that Tuchel will start the season with two failures and immediately put himself in a position where you simply can't make a mistake. He got Kane and now they will expect good old domination from Bayern.
The opening match with very different odds and it's not surprising that the depth of the Bayern Munich squad now plus the presence of Harry Kane means that they will get smaller odds in each match. I think even though there have been previous failures in other competitions for Bayern Munich it will not make them have trouble in this match as a definite winner. Bayern Munich's victory is clearly felt before their eyes even though this is an away game that they have to live. However, considering that the odds are so small, I will try to bet on the handicap to get decent odds for Bayern Munich to win.

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August 15, 2023, 08:42:54 AM
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Bayern Munich first games in Bundesliga against Werder Bremen, will Harry Kane can help Bayern winning this match after his debut failure get tittle beaten by RB Leipzig in DFB Super Cup final. Unbelievable with Bayern Munich loss their first trophy in this season, actually RB Leipzig should be easy beating by Bayern Munich and Harry Kane loss opportunity winning first tittle in his career.

Werder Bremen has the same condition with Bayern Munich, loss against Viktoria Koln as Bundesliga 3 teams on DFB Pokal first round and seems disappointed for their fans. Actually its not difficult for Bayern Munich with first three points achievement against Werder Bremen and expectation Harry Kane will play in the first muntes.

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August 15, 2023, 09:17:50 AM
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Honestly I won't be expecting too much from Kane against Werder Bremen. Because he has just arrived at the team so he needs to adapt to the team first. He needs some training with the players to get used to playing together. Tuchel had him in the match against Leipzig in the last 30-minute period. But he couldn't do much of course.

People started to criticize him right away on social media. This is just too harsh. What were they expecting? Was he going to start incredible magically? Patience is very important in this sport. Kane is a world star striker. Once he starts to adapt I don't doubt him to play impressively.
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August 15, 2023, 09:29:05 AM
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I think that Thomas Tuchel is not an enemy to himself, and therefore he should perfectly understand how much time the player really needs to be given and in what physical shape the player is. Therefore, this half hour at the end of the game is quite understandable. In the next game, it is already possible to release a player from the very beginning, but in any case, the head coach knows better, because he is from inside the team and has all the information.
This weekend's match will be a testament to how Bayern Munich's players fared against Werder Bremen, as it is the first match for the Bundesliga this season. So it is highly hoped that Thomas Tuchel will be able to provide fairly consistent readiness for his players because their defeat in the German Super Cup could be a turning point for Bayern Munich as a whole. Because it would be very detrimental for the team if they could immediately lose at the start of the season to a team that is not that strong in the Bundesliga.

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August 15, 2023, 09:52:28 AM
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There is something at risk for Werder Bremen and for Bayern Munich in the first game. For Bayern there is always something at risk as every loss means disturbance for the whole club, but now there is a tad more motivation for Werder Bremen to not mess it up on the coming Friday because they were eliminated from the DFB Pokal in Germany.

Kane won't need too long to become a part of the team, but against RB Leipzig the problem was not the lack of a striker. They revealed blatant weaknesses in their backwards movement. When RB Leipzig played a counter attack, how is it possible that they have had a few situations where they outnumbered the defense of Bayern Munich? This is not acceptable for a top team and instead of minor mistakes, this highlights problems that have been lingering on for quite some time now.
The defeat against RB Leipzig was not seen because of the weak attacks from the attackers, but Bayern Munich's defense was so bad. On the other hand, Bayern Munich also has a reliable defender who has just been brought in from Napoli, but he was brought on in the 46th minute and his contribution has not looked so big in decide on a quick counter-attack from RB Leipzig. Obviously this is not a good condition accept defeat at home and Bayern Munich also fielded their best squad in the match and should they be able to win the game or draw at least.

Werder Bremen could have implemented the same strategy as RB Leipzig in preventing Bayern Munich from getting full points. But I see that Bayern Munich's chances of coming out victorious in their inaugural match in the Bundesliga are quite large considering that almost all of the players they have brought in in the current transfer market have undergone training with the team, so it will be easy for Tuchel to combine strategies in that match.



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August 15, 2023, 10:14:17 AM
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Somehow I find the timing at Bayern Munich debatable. First they announce that Yann Sommer is leaving the club. And just one day later, Bayern Munich announces that Manuel Neuer is not yet fit. Did the problems and difficulties in Neuer's rehabilitation suddenly arise? I doubt it. It was obvious that Yann Sommer had no future at the club. But why was  he not told that right from the start?

Initially, Tuchel said that he wanted Neuer to be the main goalkeeper in the 2023/2024 season. then, rumors Neuer has recovered from his injury. which in the end, Yann Sommer chose to leave because you can be sure he will not be the main goalkeeper anymore. but what makes me quite confused is why Bayern are still looking for a goalkeeper. At first I thought maybe Neuer needed time to stabilize his fitness and at the same time adapt to his squad. however, the situation was increasingly uncertain.

IMO, Neuer is one of the best goalkeepers ever, he has contributed greatly to Bayern Munich and the German national team. now he will be 38 years old, which is where it looks like Bayern needs regeneration as a replacement. I think it's time for Bayern to look for the ideal goalkeeper from the start, or Bayern can use Sommer's services for at least the next 1-2 seasons. Thus, a chaotic situation like this would not occur. even when Bayern are too focused on the Kane transfer saga, they forget that the goalkeeper is also an important part of the team's own squad.

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August 15, 2023, 10:52:46 AM
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Initially, Tuchel said that he wanted Neuer to be the main goalkeeper in the 2023/2024 season. then, rumors Neuer has recovered from his injury. which in the end, Yann Sommer chose to leave because you can be sure he will not be the main goalkeeper anymore. but what makes me quite confused is why Bayern are still looking for a goalkeeper. At first I thought maybe Neuer needed time to stabilize his fitness and at the same time adapt to his squad. however, the situation was increasingly uncertain.
It can be an initial plan of Tuchel and Bayern Munich but Neur was not able to fully recover and ready for a new season so they had to change their initial plan and want borrow a good player to use. As Sommer already moved to Inter Milan, Bayern Munich can not start a new season with full bet on Neur's recovery.

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IMO, Neuer is one of the best goalkeepers ever, he has contributed greatly to Bayern Munich and the German national team. now he will be 38 years old, which is where it looks like Bayern needs regeneration as a replacement. I think it's time for Bayern to look for the ideal goalkeeper from the start
They are negotiating with Chelsea for a loan of Kepa and want to use him as their main goalkeeper in a new season but Real Madrid already stepped in after their main goalkeeper Courtois suddenly got a serious injury and will miss all of a new season.

The defeat against RB Leipzig was not seen because of the weak attacks from the attackers, but Bayern Munich's defense was so bad. On the other hand, Bayern Munich also has a reliable defender who has just been brought in from Napoli, but he was brought on in the 46th minute and his contribution has not looked so big in decide on a quick counter-attack from RB Leipzig. Obviously this is not a good condition accept defeat at home and Bayern Munich also fielded their best squad in the match and should they be able to win the game or draw at least.
The season just started and lost in that match will not be a nightmare for Bayern Munich. They still have a long season to fight in Champions League and Bundesliga but you are right, they must tighten their defense system as soon as possible.

The last season and this latest match against Leipzig are enough warnings for them, if they don't want to end this season with very bad results.

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August 15, 2023, 11:24:25 AM
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or maybe it's because Leipzig was the stronger team and Kane only played for 20 minutes! Who would have thought that the German Super Cup would gain so much attention and coverage across all sports platforms now? What I'm trying to say is, the hype is mainly due to Kane's presence.

It is obvious that Harry Kane is still not used to in being a Bayern Munich and not used to the formation and play for Bayern Munich, for sure Harry Kane played that time but he is not really ready from that game for sure and from that game Bayern Munich they are likely exposed by Leipzig in that DFL Supercup game when Dani Olmo made a 3 goals on their face it was a dominant play for sure, and Bayern Munich should fixed their defense,

But in this case it would be very funny if Bayern's defeat of Leipzig in this match was considered the curse of Kane because if we look at last season's h2h alone Bayern in 2 meetings never even got a victory against Leipzig because in the first meeting they drew and the second meeting they lost 1-3 to Leipzig so it would be funny and it would be very silly if someone said Bayern's defeat was due to the curse of Kane lol.

Bayern lost because they still have a lot of mistakes made besides that their defense is also not yet solid so there is no need to blame a player especially Kane who has just arrived because it will look funny.


For sure it wasn't a curse Harry Kane was just new to Beyern Munich so he doesn't have any knowledge of any game play he would surely do they sure know that he is a striker but Kane doesn't know who's going to pass him the ball for what kind of play they would do, as he is just starting with the team, for sure Thomas Tuchel let him play so he can have a feel on how Bayern Munich play works,


What are their Champions League goals? I doubt that the Champions League title is determined by Harry Kane alone. That doesn't apply to any player whatsoever. Neither was Messi able to bring home the CL title frequently nor was Ronaldo able to bring it home without interruption. Kane is a great addition and clearly fills a gap that caused Bayern to have problems last season, but before we talk about their Champions League dreams, I think it would be smart to see how they will do in the Bundesliga once Kane has arrived fully in the team and gets to play a few games with his new team.

We can not surely know until we get to see  him work with Bayern Munich, and right now let's say that Harry Kane is not included in that Leipzig game because he just got into Bayern Munich but that performance of Leipzig was really great Dani Olmo got an incredible IQ while playing the play so for sure he would used any method in getting the goal, also using the rules to his advantage, for sure this is what changes Leipzig for the rest of the team, and Union Berrlin is getting better aswell, I am really excited because the Bundesliga might be getting competitive every season,

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August 15, 2023, 11:36:38 AM
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Leverkusen are going to start the season with a quite challenging match against Leipzig. I can say that it is one of the toughest fixtures. Xabi Alonso will have a solid test at the beginning of the season. He has signed an extension to 2026 with his team new. The board and owner both must be believing in him quite much.

Because it hasn't been much time since he arrived. He came here after like more than 10 matches played last season. Leverkusen were in a poor condition but he helped them get up and fight much better. They even secured a spot for the Europa League.

Right after the end of the season they decided to go on with Xabi Alonso for longer. I hope he continues to bring success to the team. If he does maybe Real Madrid's next manager after Ancelotti could be him who knows.  Smiley

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August 15, 2023, 12:01:01 PM
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Leverkusen are going to start the season with a quite challenging match against Leipzig. I can say that it is one of the toughest fixtures. Xabi Alonso will have a solid test at the beginning of the season. He has signed an extension to 2026 with his team new. The board and owner both must be believing in him quite much.

Because it hasn't been much time since he arrived. He came here after like more than 10 matches played last season. Leverkusen were in a poor condition but he helped them get up and fight much better. They even secured a spot for the Europa League.

Right after the end of the season they decided to go on with Xabi Alonso for longer. I hope he continues to bring success to the team. If he does maybe Real Madrid's next manager after Ancelotti could be him who knows.  Smiley

Leverkusen finished last season at 6th place and in the last 5 years they have never finished worse than place 6. Although last season started disastrously they have finished the season satisfactorily. Xabi came at the right time. Now we have to see if the team has learned from last season. 
Most games in the first few matchdays cannot be predicted and it only becomes clear after 4-5 matchdays how well the teams have prepared. But with Leipzig comes an opponent who is in top form. That is why I expect Leipzig to win.
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August 15, 2023, 12:25:31 PM
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What do you guys think about Bayern's opening game in the Bundesliga against Werder Bremen? Quotes are good (same as they were for City vs Burnley):

9.20 - 6.00 - 1.30

and I'm waiting for a repeat of the result: the team, hurt by the loss of the Super Bowl, confidently beats the outsider. Plus, it's hard to believe that Tuchel will start the season with two failures and immediately put himself in a position where you simply can't make a mistake. He got Kane and now they will expect good old domination from Bayern.
The opening match with very different odds and it's not surprising that the depth of the Bayern Munich squad now plus the presence of Harry Kane means that they will get smaller odds in each match. I think even though there have been previous failures in other competitions for Bayern Munich it will not make them have trouble in this match as a definite winner. Bayern Munich's victory is clearly felt before their eyes even though this is an away game that they have to live. However, considering that the odds are so small, I will try to bet on the handicap to get decent odds for Bayern Munich to win.

I also thought about the handicap, but still Bavaria loves to miss goals so much (especially if it is confidently leading in the score) that I decided not to take risks and chose a simple victory. I think +30% is a worthy result by itself, but I included this outcome in my multibet so I hope that it will be even more profitable (if the rest of the results do not let me down).

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August 15, 2023, 12:36:18 PM
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For sure it wasn't a curse Harry Kane was just new to Beyern Munich so he doesn't have any knowledge of any game play he would surely do they sure know that he is a striker but Kane doesn't know who's going to pass him the ball for what kind of play they would do, as he is just starting with the team, for sure Thomas Tuchel let him play so he can have a feel on how Bayern Munich play works,


For myself, I honestly don't think that this curse from Kane caused Bayern Munich to lose to Leipzig. We have to realize that Kane is a very new player there, he just came and just joined. So it's true as you say, Kane still doesn't know too much about the game there, he hasn't been able to fully integrate with the Bayern Munich players and the strategy and style of play that Tuchel used to play with his old players. So I think this can be a pretty strong reason why Kane didn't really make a significant contribution at that time, because he was in the adaptation stage there. I think honestly this will not be too much of a problem for Tuchel regarding Kane and Tuchel will still consider it reasonable. Kane still needs at least the next few weeks to adapt there.

The season just started and lost in that match will not be a nightmare for Bayern Munich. They still have a long season to fight in Champions League and Bundesliga but you are right, they must tighten their defense system as soon as possible.

The last season and this latest match against Leipzig are enough warnings for them, if they don't want to end this season with very bad results.


That's right, it's only just begun and it's not the end of the world but the beginning of the road for Bayern Munich. There are some fans who are disappointed with Kane's performance and I'm one of them, but if we look at it again it's not entirely Kane's fault. He has just joined Bayern Munich and Kane is still not used to the game at his new club, so I think this is normal, I will not blame him too much. I just hope that Tuchel can look at the various sides of his squad and make evaluations so that the opposing team cannot see the weak points of his squad. With Kane's arrival, I'm sure for the next few games when he is able to blend in with Bayern Munich's style of play they will have many chances of victory in various competitions, especially in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
I hope Kane doesn't find any difficulties there so that he can put in an impressive performance.

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August 15, 2023, 12:46:28 PM
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What do you guys think about Bayern's opening game in the Bundesliga against Werder Bremen? Quotes are good (same as they were for City vs Burnley):
Can we compare burnley to the bremen? Bremen performed so badly last season but i would not compare burnley to the bremen as bremen was not a promotional team. It was playing so badly last season but there may be an improvement happened with this club. I saw that the result from pre season was not so bad for bremen.

9.20 - 6.00 - 1.30
That's pretty small odd but consider the first opponent was werder bremen and i think bayern may able to beat it even with a small score like 1-0.


and I'm waiting for a repeat of the result: the team, hurt by the loss of the Super Bowl, confidently beats the outsider. Plus, it's hard to believe that Tuchel will start the season with two failures and immediately put himself in a position where you simply can't make a mistake. He got Kane and now they will expect good old domination from Bayern.
Let's see how tuchel is gonna fix its problem. I don't trust munich right now. The performance is going up and down constantly. It seemed to me if munich was not making huge progress.

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August 15, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
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What do you guys think about Bayern's opening game in the Bundesliga against Werder Bremen? Quotes are good (same as they were for City vs Burnley):

9.20 - 6.00 - 1.30

and I'm waiting for a repeat of the result: the team, hurt by the loss of the Super Bowl, confidently beats the outsider. Plus, it's hard to believe that Tuchel will start the season with two failures and immediately put himself in a position where you simply can't make a mistake. He got Kane and now they will expect good old domination from Bayern.
The opening match with very different odds and it's not surprising that the depth of the Bayern Munich squad now plus the presence of Harry Kane means that they will get smaller odds in each match. I think even though there have been previous failures in other competitions for Bayern Munich it will not make them have trouble in this match as a definite winner. Bayern Munich's victory is clearly felt before their eyes even though this is an away game that they have to live. However, considering that the odds are so small, I will try to bet on the handicap to get decent odds for Bayern Munich to win.

I also thought about the handicap, but still Bavaria loves to miss goals so much (especially if it is confidently leading in the score) that I decided not to take risks and chose a simple victory. I think +30% is a worthy result by itself, but I included this outcome in my multibet so I hope that it will be even more profitable (if the rest of the results do not let me down).
Indeed, sometimes Bayern Munich often loses control to score goals in large numbers and maybe the simple win you want is more feasible than taking high risks with a handicap. Entering this match into multibet will certainly increase your odds and because of that it would be a shame if we bet on single bets. On the other hand, I had another view regarding the outcome of this match, even though Bayern Munich is so favored to win, betting over 2.5 goals still makes sense to avoid unwanted things.

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