Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[Dzwaafu11]

....The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

Exactly whoever the coach is, they will definitely need extra efforts to make the club much better again, or even to approach their previous performance. Because Leverkusen has lost three key players: Florian Wirtz, Jeremie Frimpong, Amine Adli, Granit Xhaka, Jonathan Tah, and several other top players. So, for now, Leverkusen must stick with their current lineup, fortunately they have Patrik Schick.

However, ten Hag's influence at Leverkusen was indeed very subtle, even after several matches together. And it really didn't work.

Even though it looks like we are still not sure of what really happened between Leverkusen and Ten Hag, we are just saying based on what we see on the internet. I will say that if Bayer Leverkusen management knows that they will not give ten Hag enough time to manage this squad, then what is the use of signing him for under 2 months and getting fired?

I feel like Leverkusen management are even confused; they don’t know where to face and make things go well for this club. They sold their key players, and they are expecting the performance to be as it was before in a short period of time. I feel like regardless of how experienced the manager is, he won’t do that in a short period of time; he needs at least a complete season. I'm

[Frankolala]

....The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

Exactly whoever the coach is, they will definitely need extra efforts to make the club much better again, or even to approach their previous performance. Because Leverkusen has lost three key players: Florian Wirtz, Jeremie Frimpong, Amine Adli, Granit Xhaka, Jonathan Tah, and several other top players. So, for now, Leverkusen must stick with their current lineup, fortunately they have Patrik Schick.

However, ten Hag's influence at Leverkusen was indeed very subtle, even after several matches together. And it really didn't work.

Even though it looks like we are still not sure of what really happened between Leverkusen and Ten Hag, we are just saying based on what we see on the internet. I will say that if Bayer Leverkusen management knows that they will not give ten Hag enough time to manage this squad, then what is the use of signing him for under 2 months and getting fired?

I feel like Leverkusen management are even confused; they don’t know where to face and make things go well for this club. They sold their key players, and they are expecting the performance to be as it was before in a short period of time. I feel like regardless of how experienced the manager is, he won’t do that in a short period of time; he needs at least a complete season. I'm

The moment Ten Hag was hired was when I noticed that Leverkusen are confused on which coach to hire and how they can maintain the team performance. Imagine, what do they expect, a miracle or something more than a miracle. The way that you lay your bed is how you will lie on it. Leverkusen sold their best players and hired Ten Hag. What do they think the performance of tje team will be like.

[Toro iskandar]

I would have love to see Reuben Amorim struggle to win matches at Manchester United so that you will see what I am talking about, but I won't wish Ruben Amorim that because I want the glory days to return to Manchester United so that they can challenge for the premier League title and champions league trophy. The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

This is actually what Dortmund team usually does every season but they still get to finish in top four of the league standings, and no much complain about the choice of coach. I think Bayern Leverkusen biggest mistake was selling the coach, selling all the best players they had and not having backup like some other young players from their academy coming to replace this players. I don’t know what good signings they made with that lots of money they made from selling players. It is a shame to see them fall this big after rising up the ranks in the Bundesliga. They should learn better from Dortmund how to make their club a profitable venture without losing their good performance.

In my opinion, the management of Bayer Leverkusen and Borussia Dortmund is very different.
Dortmund is far more experienced in managing players and developing their talent, and all of this requires the support of the board of directors to achieve a profitable business.
So, everything that's happening to Bayer right now is actually a mistake on everyone's part. Selling their best players when they've lost a capable coach is one of their biggest mistakes.

Now, Bayer must start from scratch, finding the right coach and reliable players, which takes a very long time.

[imamusma]

The moment Ten Hag was hired was when I noticed that Leverkusen are confused on which coach to hire and how they can maintain the team performance. Imagine, what do they expect, a miracle or something more than a miracle. The way that you lay your bed is how you will lie on it. Leverkusen sold their best players and hired Ten Hag. What do they think the performance of tje team will be like.

Several managers with even better reputations were also available for free, such as Xavi. I'm honestly also surprised by Leverkusen management appointing Ten Hag as Xabi Alonso replacement. Additionally, seeing them release most of their key players in one transfer window, I think Leverkusen management wasn't serious about maintaining their existence as one of the elite teams in the Bundesliga. All the fans worries seem to have come true, so far Leverkusen hasn't been able to secure a single victory.

[Mustang Shelby]

The moment Ten Hag was hired was when I noticed that Leverkusen are confused on which coach to hire and how they can maintain the team performance. Imagine, what do they expect, a miracle or something more than a miracle. The way that you lay your bed is how you will lie on it. Leverkusen sold their best players and hired Ten Hag. What do they think the performance of tje team will be like.

Several managers with even better reputations were also available for free, such as Xavi. I'm honestly also surprised by Leverkusen management appointing Ten Hag as Xabi Alonso replacement. Additionally, seeing them release most of their key players in one transfer window, I think Leverkusen management wasn't serious about maintaining their existence as one of the elite teams in the Bundesliga. All the fans worries seem to have come true, so far Leverkusen hasn't been able to secure a single victory.

In fact, the management should be criticized more than the manager during this period, as the management hasn't made any sound decisions. They couldn't fill the void left by the manager's departure with a good replacement, and they had a very poor start to the season. Naturally, these results aren't surprising. Fortunately, they announced their early departure and that they would continue with another Bundesliga coach. Xabi's performance is extraordinary. The likelihood of them finding another outstanding coach is very low; it would be better for them to sign a manager who can at least remain in the running.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

In fact, the management should be criticized more than the manager during this period, as the management hasn't made any sound decisions. They couldn't fill the void left by the manager's departure with a good replacement, and they had a very poor start to the season. Naturally, these results aren't surprising. Fortunately, they announced their early departure and that they would continue with another Bundesliga coach. Xabi's performance is extraordinary. The likelihood of them finding another outstanding coach is very low; it would be better for them to sign a manager who can at least remain in the running.

Every decision may have been carefully considered, and Leverkusen's management has made slightly more erroneous decisions as several players and coaches have left for other clubs. But in football, this is normal, as players and coaches come and go to fill the void each season. What's even more problematic is the lack of preparation for the current situation, which has made the team worse. A new coach is expected to bring change, although he won't be able to do as great a job as Xabi Alonso, but at least being able to compete in the top three would be much better.

[UchihaSarada]

Every decision may have been carefully considered, and Leverkusen's management has made slightly more erroneous decisions as several players and coaches have left for other clubs. But in football, this is normal, as players and coaches come and go to fill the void each season. What's even more problematic is the lack of preparation for the current situation, which has made the team worse. A new coach is expected to bring change, although he won't be able to do as great a job as Xabi Alonso, but at least being able to compete in the top three would be much better.

After success with Xabi Alonso, Bayer Leverkusen lost him to Real Madrid but not only this, they sold many star players to other clubs which are good for their club financial balance sheet in this summer. In long term Bayer Leverkusen will have to rebuild their squad with many new players with no guarantee of success and how they fell into crisis before Xabi Alonso appearance in their club is a warning for them.

Hiring Ten Hag as a replacement of Xabi Alonso is quite surprising but sacking him so quickly like this is even more shocked. Bayer Leverkusen likely take a series of action that leads their club to a wildly chaotic season.

Several managers with even better reputations were also available for free, such as Xavi. I'm honestly also surprised by Leverkusen management appointing Ten Hag as Xabi Alonso replacement. Additionally, seeing them release most of their key players in one transfer window, I think Leverkusen management wasn't serious about maintaining their existence as one of the elite teams in the Bundesliga. All the fans worries seem to have come true, so far Leverkusen hasn't been able to secure a single victory.

Replacing a head coach who made history with the club is not easy for any club as well as any replacement. Bayer Leverkusen struggled with this task so did Ten Hag but now they both have to move onward to the future. Xabi Alonso already became a story of the past, so did Ten Hag, while Bundesliga is on going and the season is far till its ending. Bayer Leverkusen must be careful in coming months as they have risk of falling out of top four in Bundesliga if their head coach position is not assigned to a good coach.

[Oluwa-btc]

I think that number is not only three... There are even more players who had an important role in team success but left this summer.  

Erik ten Hag had a difficult job to do. He made new signings and he just needed time to see whether that would work. But the board were so impatient as it seems...

I wonder what Xabi Alonso would have done in the same situation. Success or failure?

Defending Erik ten Hag during good and bad days has been my shit, but I'm not doing that anymore. If according the management he's done some stuffs interfering with the players then, I believe it. They never came out to say stuffs like this against Xabi Alonso during his first six months in charge. Finally,  this is not the time to play the blame game,  why are they yet to sign up a replacement after parting ways with Eric ten Hag?!

[Stormisover]

....The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

Exactly whoever the coach is, they will definitely need extra efforts to make the club much better again, or even to approach their previous performance. Because Leverkusen has lost three key players: Florian Wirtz, Jeremie Frimpong, Amine Adli, Granit Xhaka, Jonathan Tah, and several other top players. So, for now, Leverkusen must stick with their current lineup, fortunately they have Patrik Schick.

However, ten Hag's influence at Leverkusen was indeed very subtle, even after several matches together. And it really didn't work.

Even though it looks like we are still not sure of what really happened between Leverkusen and Ten Hag, we are just saying based on what we see on the internet. I will say that if Bayer Leverkusen management knows that they will not give ten Hag enough time to manage this squad, then what is the use of signing him for under 2 months and getting fired?

I feel like Leverkusen management are even confused; they don’t know where to face and make things go well for this club. They sold their key players, and they are expecting the performance to be as it was before in a short period of time. I feel like regardless of how experienced the manager is, he won’t do that in a short period of time; he needs at least a complete season. I'm

Are you guys blaming the management or the coach, if Erik Ten Hang had insisted that he wants to make use of them would they have sold them? Yet Erik Ten Hang was confident of selling them now he's left the team with few key players, if not for a failed medical test I believe Victor Boniface could have left also, Truth be told like Erik Ten Hang really did mess to that team, despite what might happen the new coach will struggle, maybe if luck is on their side they might make it to the top four but if not mehn they are going back to the average team they use to be.

[Luzin]

Truth be told like Erik Ten Hang really did mess to that team, despite what might happen the new coach will struggle, maybe if luck is on their side they might make it to the top four but if not mehn they are going back to the average team they use to be.

This is funny, actually I had already doubted his abilities since Man United fired him. But Leverkusen seemed a little hasty in choosing him. I actually had a little hope that the different league conditions could bring out the best in him. But some of the recent decisions to sell players have made me think this is funny. They shouldn't have been sold, so Leverkusen wouldn't have so much work to do. But I'm actually a little surprised that this dismissal hasn't shown his overall performance. It seems that management has a specific reason, and I don't know what it is yet.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I never understood why Bayer Leverkusen brought in Ten Hag as head coach so quickly. In my opinion, he was a failure and I don’t know what logic led Leverkusen to move so fast, but it came at a heavy cost because now they’ve sacked him and will have to pay compensation.
It was the right decision to dismiss him early, as he wasn’t going to bring any benefit to the team anyway.
Now he should go and coach a mid-level club, because he doesn’t have the talent or knowledge to manage a big club.

Why Leverkusen hired Ten Hag as their manager was a mystery. We saw him fail miserably with Manchester United. And Ten Hag never admitted his failure. I saw Ten Hag was very surprised when Manchester United sacked Ten Hag. He considered himself successful with Manchester United.

The thing is that the definition of success is different for each club. Teams like Manchester United and Leverkusen want to fight for the title. On the other hand, for teams like Hoffenheim and Leicester City, success is just qualifying for the league.

Since Leverkusen wants to fight for the Bundesliga title, Ten Hag is not a suitable coach at all. Leverkusen decided to sack Ten Hag very quickly. However, they suffered financially for it

[Mayor of ogba]

....The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

Exactly whoever the coach is, they will definitely need extra efforts to make the club much better again, or even to approach their previous performance. Because Leverkusen has lost three key players: Florian Wirtz, Jeremie Frimpong, Amine Adli, Granit Xhaka, Jonathan Tah, and several other top players. So, for now, Leverkusen must stick with their current lineup, fortunately they have Patrik Schick.

However, ten Hag's influence at Leverkusen was indeed very subtle, even after several matches together. And it really didn't work.

Even though it looks like we are still not sure of what really happened between Leverkusen and Ten Hag, we are just saying based on what we see on the internet. I will say that if Bayer Leverkusen management knows that they will not give ten Hag enough time to manage this squad, then what is the use of signing him for under 2 months and getting fired?

I feel like Leverkusen management are even confused; they don’t know where to face and make things go well for this club. They sold their key players, and they are expecting the performance to be as it was before in a short period of time. I feel like regardless of how experienced the manager is, he won’t do that in a short period of time; he needs at least a complete season. I'm

The moment Ten Hag was hired was when I noticed that Leverkusen are confused on which coach to hire and how they can maintain the team performance. Imagine, what do they expect, a miracle or something more than a miracle. The way that you lay your bed is how you will lie on it. Leverkusen sold their best players and hired Ten Hag. What do they think the performance of tje team will be like.

Bayer Leverkusen laid their bed in a very wrong way and they are reaping this result right now. Even though Bayer Leverkusen management didn't hire Erik Ten Hag as their head coach, they would have still find it very difficult to compete in the German Bundesliga this season because you can't sell your best players without signing new players from the transfer market and expect your coach to perform magic for you and win matches with an average players.

[Velvet78]

The most meaningless thing could be to sack a manager who has just made a big spending on signings.

Leverkusen has spent around 200 million euros this summer. Maybe it might not seem that superb for Premier League fans but I think it is here...

Now the next manager will have to adapt to the current players and won't be able to build his team. Let's see whether he will still handle it.

[Agbe]

....The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

Exactly whoever the coach is, they will definitely need extra efforts to make the club much better again, or even to approach their previous performance. Because Leverkusen has lost three key players: Florian Wirtz, Jeremie Frimpong, Amine Adli, Granit Xhaka, Jonathan Tah, and several other top players. So, for now, Leverkusen must stick with their current lineup, fortunately they have Patrik Schick.

However, ten Hag's influence at Leverkusen was indeed very subtle, even after several matches together. And it really didn't work.

Even though it looks like we are still not sure of what really happened between Leverkusen and Ten Hag, we are just saying based on what we see on the internet. I will say that if Bayer Leverkusen management knows that they will not give ten Hag enough time to manage this squad, then what is the use of signing him for under 2 months and getting fired?

I feel like Leverkusen management are even confused; they don’t know where to face and make things go well for this club. They sold their key players, and they are expecting the performance to be as it was before in a short period of time. I feel like regardless of how experienced the manager is, he won’t do that in a short period of time; he needs at least a complete season. I'm

The moment Ten Hag was hired was when I noticed that Leverkusen are confused on which coach to hire and how they can maintain the team performance. Imagine, what do they expect, a miracle or something more than a miracle. The way that you lay your bed is how you will lie on it. Leverkusen sold their best players and hired Ten Hag. What do they think the performance of tje team will be like.

Bayer Leverkusen laid their bed in a very wrong way and they are reaping this result right now. Even though Bayer Leverkusen management didn't hire Erik Ten Hag as their head coach, they would have still find it very difficult to compete in the German Bundesliga this season because you can't sell your best players without signing new players from the transfer market and expect your coach to perform magic for you and win matches with an average players.

I agree with you what do you expect when Leverkusen was busy selling all their first team players definitely there is said to be consequence of their actions, I expected that after the exit of Alonso Leverkusen will still maintain their squad and look for a coach that is well experienced to come and handle the team so that they can still be competitive in the bundesliga

[shinratensei_]

The most meaningless thing could be to sack a manager who has just made a big spending on signings.

Leverkusen has spent around 200 million euros this summer. Maybe it might not seem that superb for Premier League fans but I think it is here...

Now the next manager will have to adapt to the current players and won't be able to build his team. Let's see whether he will still handle it.

You can't really blame Leverkusen by doing that. Their decision to sack ETH might come from so many consideration following how poor club's performance. I don't think they sacked Ten Hag for no reason.  Sometimes, a manager who spent a lot might not able utilize his new player, but when others come may be giving different result. There is no also guarantee he will success with his signings.
They may not take the risk by keeping him much longer. They save their club before Ten Hag destroys it. There will always be good and bad side depending on the perspective.

[Volgastallion]

Well enough of all the Bayer Leverkusen drama and the Erik ten Hag departure.

To change the tune im gonna drop a simple question for everyone here in this thread.

Which team you feel is gonna be the great surprise this season? And which team is gonna be the biggest flop this season? ( it can be Leverkusen  )

[Mayor of ogba]

....The fact that Bayer Leverkusen management sold their best players to other clubs, they will continue to struggle this season even with a new coach.

Exactly whoever the coach is, they will definitely need extra efforts to make the club much better again, or even to approach their previous performance. Because Leverkusen has lost three key players: Florian Wirtz, Jeremie Frimpong, Amine Adli, Granit Xhaka, Jonathan Tah, and several other top players. So, for now, Leverkusen must stick with their current lineup, fortunately they have Patrik Schick.

However, ten Hag's influence at Leverkusen was indeed very subtle, even after several matches together. And it really didn't work.

Even though it looks like we are still not sure of what really happened between Leverkusen and Ten Hag, we are just saying based on what we see on the internet. I will say that if Bayer Leverkusen management knows that they will not give ten Hag enough time to manage this squad, then what is the use of signing him for under 2 months and getting fired?

I feel like Leverkusen management are even confused; they don’t know where to face and make things go well for this club. They sold their key players, and they are expecting the performance to be as it was before in a short period of time. I feel like regardless of how experienced the manager is, he won’t do that in a short period of time; he needs at least a complete season. I'm

Are you guys blaming the management or the coach, if Erik Ten Hang had insisted that he wants to make use of them would they have sold them? Yet Erik Ten Hang was confident of selling them now he's left the team with few key players, if not for a failed medical test I believe Victor Boniface could have left also, Truth be told like Erik Ten Hang really did mess to that team, despite what might happen the new coach will struggle, maybe if luck is on their side they might make it to the top four but if not mehn they are going back to the average team they use to be.

In my opinion, even though Erik Ten Hag wanted the Bayer Leverkusen key players that left the club in the summer transfer window to remaining at Bayer Leverkusen this season that wouldn't have happened because it seems it was the Idea of Bayer Leverkusen management to cash in on those players. With the attitude Bayer Leverkusen showed in the two matches they played this season, they might likely not make it to the top four.

[ITExpert]

Perhaps patience was never what they had in common with Manchester United because in Manchester United even if they just signed a coached now and they played 10 matches without wining they will never have the thought of sacking the coach because they would always think of giving him the whole season to see whether he can change so perhaps that's why when they fall it takes many seasons to come back because of the extent at which there fall had gotten to but Bayern Leverkusen on the other hand doesn't want to get too bad before they can start seeing the  coach faults.

I think Manchester United needs to have some more patience to have the best performance. Because where they are falling after the head coach Eric ten hag leave them. It will take time to be in the best position. Ruben Amorim is a good coach but I think he is not the magician who will take the best in the team by his presence and coaching. I think it's not good if we only focus on blaming the coach. Because there are multiple reasons which are the cause of the team's current situation. They need to buy some new players who will be really capable and help the team to get rid of their bad time. And then the coach's responsibility will increase to help the team to present the best. And it's also the responsibility of the fans that they should expect on the basis of their position.

[GiftedMAN]

Well enough of all the Bayer Leverkusen drama and the Erik ten Hag departure.

To change the tune im gonna drop a simple question for everyone here in this thread.

Which team you feel is gonna be the great surprise this season? And which team is gonna be the biggest flop this season? ( it can be Leverkusen  )

It's been a week filled with the departure of Ten Hag and how he was sacked but since you have decided to change the tune let's ride together.

For the team that will be a great surprise this season I think FC Cologne is looking like a threat after watching their first two matches but that can only be possible if they maintain their level of performance in the league.

The flop of the season aside Leverkusen is going to be Freiburg they had good defense last season that's why they didn't concede much goals but this season they are looking like a team with no destination.

[Roseline492]

Perhaps patience was never what they had in common with Manchester United because in Manchester United even if they just signed a coached now and they played 10 matches without wining they will never have the thought of sacking the coach because they would always think of giving him the whole season to see whether he can change so perhaps that's why when they fall it takes many seasons to come back because of the extent at which there fall had gotten to but Bayern Leverkusen on the other hand doesn't want to get too bad before they can start seeing the  coach faults.

I think Manchester United needs to have some more patience to have the best performance. Because where they are falling after the head coach Eric ten hag leave them. It will take time to be in the best position. Ruben Amorim is a good coach but I think he is not the magician who will take the best in the team by his presence and coaching. I think it's not good if we only focus on blaming the coach. Because there are multiple reasons which are the cause of the team's current situation. They need to buy some new players who will be really capable and help the team to get rid of their bad time.

Even a magician it will not be something they will just go and everything is better, Manchester United is a patient club and if it was the only thing that brings success they wouldn't be having this things all the time, there problem keeps lingering because by the time everything seems to be in other another way that would bring everything to there kneels come out again, is difficult to see growths on a club that's not getting it right all the time. I thought this players they bought was supposed to cover many lapses first before they would be thinking about more need. I'm not sure if Manchester United can get up to 2 wining from there next 8 matches ahead with the interpretation of things.