Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[len01]

We all suspect Borussia Dortmund is focused on selling players. They've been saying this for years. Furthermore, many world-class star players have played for Borussia Dortmund. Lewandowski and Bellingham are prime examples. If they wanted to compete with Bayern Munich, they would do it. But I think the team's priority is making money.

One player you haven't mentioned is Haaland, who was once part of Dortmund and has since become even more successful, with his talent widely recognized in the EPL.

And when you think about it, if Dortmund's main objective is to make money, winning the bundesliga could also bring financial benefits. On top of that, if the club kept its best players, they could pursue additional rewards in prestigious competitions like the UCL. Unfortunately, Dortmund seem to prefer the immediate profits that come from selling their players.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Hmm, I agree with you. Bayern are always very good at monopolizing their own territory. But the rest of the German club get into trouble when they go to the European stage. Just like PSG in Ligue 1, they are outclassed by everyone with their money. Similarly the gap between them and the rest of Europe is a living fact.

The upper authority in the circles around Dortmund and Leverkusen should be a little more concerned about these issues. Because until they invest enough, it is not possible to see a completely equal fight on this board.

Both Dortmund and Leverkusen are teams that have tasted success, Dortmund being one of those that has almost made it a reality to win a Bundesliga title. However, things have to be tougher because Dortmund is a very good team and Leverkusen has already won it, and with an undefeated record, which is perfect, so they have what it takes to win that Bundesliga title.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

They do this for the business aspect of the game which is the most important because grooming talents and then turning them into superstar after which they sell off for a lof of cash and they do this to almost all the big clubs on other leagues too because borussia Dortmund have been one of the teams that have sold so many world class players from midfielders, strikers to even defenders to other clubs and if they were ready to have them at the club they will definitely cause major upsets for the likes of Bayern Munich in challenging for the title.

This is evident in how Dortmund continues to sell their talented players and almost all of them have achieved success at their clubs. The business aspect has affected the club's ability to compete for success, as they fail to capitalize on the potential of their players to compete for trophies. If this continues, there will be no major surprises for Bundesliga giants Bayern Munich, as they will always be comfortable dominating the league. Several teams in the Bundesliga need to change their patterns if they want to compete with Bayern Munich because without a balanced player base, it will be difficult to break their dominance.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think both borussia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen cannot do anything because it is very cleared that they are lacking funds that is why they could not be able to compete with Bayern Munich. Based on my understanding, the reason why Bayern Munich has dominated the league unlike Paris Saint-Germain in the French League is because of money and that is why they are able to even compete with the rest of the world when it comes to buying top good players. Bayer Leverkusen was just opportune under Xavi Alonso to even start to challenge bayern Munich and since then all those courage are gone after the coach left.

Yes, well, Leverkusen's case is special, but in Dortmund's case things were different because they used to focus on developing high-caliber players and selling them to the highest bidder for a high price; that was something that characterized them. But now they want to win, now they want to be more competitive, and that's not a bad thing.

[$weetne$$]

The Bundesliga is not a low level league, same with La Liga but we do see one or two teams dominate the league, such leagues are considered farmers league. Aside Bayern Munich, which other club can we actually talk about, that are among title contenders for each season against Bayern. There is a notable difference between Premier League, Italian league and Bundesliga or France League, Bundesliga and France League are both farmers league, no need for sugar coating.

Once the titleship don't rotate frequently, we see the league as farmers league, Bayern Munich are capable of holding the league title for a decade without any club defending the title, it takes massive luck for other clubs to win the league, for example how Leverkusen in their best form to win the league.

In as much as I will not want to dispute the obvious fact you have stated,  we also need know that we cannot blame it on these top teams either,  in the Bundesliga we see that Bayern Munich is the most funded and also the team with the most depth, this applies to PSG in the French league too. You will not have them getting all that capacity only to lower themselves for another team to win the title so they will not be regarded as a farmer league,  it is business and a lot is been invested, so they have to do the needful to get returns, if others so desire to not be part of the farmers league,  then they should be funded and play right tor meet up with this dominant team.

[Velvet78]

Is Bayern Munich interested in anyone recently? I know they already have a wonderful squad in hand. But there are some players leaving such as Nicolas Jackson due to the expiration of his loan contract.

Kompany would like to make sure of the squad depth.    Other than that I don't think they need to spend a lot of money on a player like 100 million euros and above.

I hope they have a more reliable defense next time though...

[ITExpert]

The Bundesliga is just as important as the Champions League, even though the two leagues are different and winning a domestic league title also determines which team is the strongest in the league. I think Bayern Munich will continue to strive for the Bundesliga title, even though their ambition to win the Champions League is very high. If they didn't care about the Bundesliga, perhaps Bayern Munich wouldn't fight for every match there and in fact, they continue to fight as hard as they can to win. Bayern Munich's big goal is to win the Champions League, but I agree with you that they never ignore the Bundesliga.

This is true that Bayern Munich is a very strong and dedicated team and they are too desperate to win the champions league as they are making a lot of efforts and they are also trying to give their best so that they can make it possible to win. But despite having all the passion to win the champions league they will never want that they don't win the Bundesliga. Because Bundesliga is also very important for them and this what makes their spirits always courageous to move forward. And now the other teams will try to be on their best and strong position so they can be able to compete with Bayern Munich and manges to win against Bayern Munich. Because only this way any other team can win the Bundesliga Bayer Munich by themselves will never allow anyone to win the Bundesliga and be on their position.

[Oluwa-btc]

Is Bayern Munich interested in anyone recently? I know they already have a wonderful squad in hand. But there are some players leaving such as Nicolas Jackson due to the expiration of his loan contract.

Kompany would like to make sure of the squad depth.    Other than that I don't think they need to spend a lot of money on a player like 100 million euros and above.

I hope they have a more reliable defense next time though...

Ismael Saibari is the name I have recently read about.

He was the Eredivisie player of the season as he helped PSV with winning the Dutch league competition. I have never watched this guy on live TV but I have seen a clip or two after reading through the news of famous sports journalist FabrizioRomano. His numbers for PSV during his stay with them are quite impressive. He will surely raise his standards when he completely joins Bayern Munich.

[len01]

But now they want to win, now they want to be more competitive, and that's not a bad thing.

Talking about wanting to win and become more competitive sounds like nothing more than a way to cover up their business model, so it isn't too obvious that Dortmund's main focus is developing young players and selling them whenever a big club makes a lucrative offer. Just look at it, Dortmund have followed this approach for decades, and they still haven't consistently challenged for titles the way Leverkusen did. As long as Dortmund continue to stick to this model, fans shouldn't expect much more from them.

[hyudien]

Talking about wanting to win and become more competitive sounds like nothing more than a way to cover up their business model, so it isn't too obvious that Dortmund's main focus is developing young players and selling them whenever a big club makes a lucrative offer. Just look at it, Dortmund have followed this approach for decades, and they still haven't consistently challenged for titles the way Leverkusen did. As long as Dortmund continue to stick to this model, fans shouldn't expect much more from them.

There is an expression “Kill two birds with one stone”, maybe that's right to describe a team like Dortmund, they buy talented players and hone them into sharpness, when successful before selling them they will target the Bundesliga title, a real example is when in the Klopp era, but this method does not always work every season, after all, developing young talent is not easy, in addition to the appointment of the right coach is also very influential. This season is no exception, Dortmund may not compete competitively with Bayern, obviously because Bayern are in peak form and Dortmund are still building strength with the approach you have mentioned.

[pewboy]

There is an expression ?Kill two birds with one stone?, maybe that's right to describe a team like Dortmund, they buy talented players and hone them into sharpness, when successful before selling them they will target the Bundesliga title, a real example is when in the Klopp era, but this method does not always work every season, after all, developing young talent is not easy, in addition to the appointment of the right coach is also very influential. This season is no exception, Dortmund may not compete competitively with Bayern, obviously because Bayern are in peak form and Dortmund are still building strength with the approach you have mentioned.

Dortmund is that big team where all the great talents come to gain experience and then go to Bayern Munich most of the time, in any case the club is fine with it because they sell their players at very high prices and then make money from them and so they continue to stand up as a club, nothing wrong but sometimes you have to keep some strong players.

[pusaka]

But now they want to win, now they want to be more competitive, and that's not a bad thing.

Talking about wanting to win and become more competitive sounds like nothing more than a way to cover up their business model, so it isn't too obvious that Dortmund's main focus is developing young players and selling them whenever a big club makes a lucrative offer. Just look at it, Dortmund have followed this approach for decades, and they still haven't consistently challenged for titles the way Leverkusen did. As long as Dortmund continue to stick to this model, fans shouldn't expect much more from them.

I agree with you, the habits of Borussia Dortmund are detrimental to themselves, detrimental not in terms of money, but detrimental in terms of competition which actually they can compete better than what they have done so far. They have a good ability to develop talented young players and that is proven by the players they sell to other teams and those players make a big contribution. I can't imagine what their strength would be if they didn't sell their talented players.

I can understand that in football business can't be ruled out, but it should go hand in hand. Well what Borussia Dortmund have done so far is that they are more concerned with business than achievement.

[mv1986]

Hmm, I agree with you. Bayern are always very good at monopolizing their own territory. But the rest of the German club get into trouble when they go to the European stage. Just like PSG in Ligue 1, they are outclassed by everyone with their money. Similarly the gap between them and the rest of Europe is a living fact.

The upper authority in the circles around Dortmund and Leverkusen should be a little more concerned about these issues. Because until they invest enough, it is not possible to see a completely equal fight on this board.

Both Dortmund and Leverkusen are teams that have tasted success, Dortmund being one of those that has almost made it a reality to win a Bundesliga title. However, things have to be tougher because Dortmund is a very good team and Leverkusen has already won it, and with an undefeated record, which is perfect, so they have what it takes to win that Bundesliga title.

No they don't have what it takes to win the Bundesliga. Coach is gone since then and several key players are gone since then. Leverkusen today is not Leverkusen 2024 and that makes a big difference. You can't just assume that because "Leverkusen" won it a few years ago, they have what it takes to win it next year. It is quite normal for these clubs that are not considered European top to lose most of their key players after a record breaking season. It was quite obvious that the team would more or less fall apart when Alonso and Wirtz leave. That alone was a big setback for Leverkusen as both were key figures for their success.

[Black Mbaye]

Hmm, I agree with you. Bayern are always very good at monopolizing their own territory. But the rest of the German club get into trouble when they go to the European stage. Just like PSG in Ligue 1, they are outclassed by everyone with their money. Similarly the gap between them and the rest of Europe is a living fact.

The upper authority in the circles around Dortmund and Leverkusen should be a little more concerned about these issues. Because until they invest enough, it is not possible to see a completely equal fight on this board.

Both Dortmund and Leverkusen are teams that have tasted success, Dortmund being one of those that has almost made it a reality to win a Bundesliga title. However, things have to be tougher because Dortmund is a very good team and Leverkusen has already won it, and with an undefeated record, which is perfect, so they have what it takes to win that Bundesliga title.

No they don't have what it takes to win the Bundesliga. Coach is gone since then and several key players are gone since then. Leverkusen today is not Leverkusen 2024 and that makes a big difference. You can't just assume that because "Leverkusen" won it a few years ago, they have what it takes to win it next year. It is quite normal for these clubs that are not considered European top to lose most of their key players after a record breaking season. It was quite obvious that the team would more or less fall apart when Alonso and Wirtz leave. That alone was a big setback for Leverkusen as both were key figures for their success.

Alonso and Wirtz had a fantastic season at Bayer Leverkusen. They finished the season undefeated, despite facing Bayern Munich. This was, I believe, a first in the Bundesliga. Their chances of repeating that success seem low. They also faced Fenerbahçe in the Europa League that season and probably lost the trophy. However, I don't think making changes after their Champions League elimination was the right decision.

[mv1986]

No they don't have what it takes to win the Bundesliga. Coach is gone since then and several key players are gone since then. Leverkusen today is not Leverkusen 2024 and that makes a big difference. You can't just assume that because "Leverkusen" won it a few years ago, they have what it takes to win it next year. It is quite normal for these clubs that are not considered European top to lose most of their key players after a record breaking season. It was quite obvious that the team would more or less fall apart when Alonso and Wirtz leave. That alone was a big setback for Leverkusen as both were key figures for their success.

Alonso and Wirtz had a fantastic season at Bayer Leverkusen. They finished the season undefeated, despite facing Bayern Munich. This was, I believe, a first in the Bundesliga. Their chances of repeating that success seem low. They also faced Fenerbahçe in the Europa League that season and probably lost the trophy. However, I don't think making changes after their Champions League elimination was the right decision.

I am not sure what you are talking about, but Leverkusen played against Fenerbahce 25 years ago for the last time. I think it was in 2001, so it is unlikely that the results from 2001 carry over to 2024 and disallow Leverkusen to win the trophy. There must have been another reason why Leverkusen was denied the trophy or they introduced a new rule that every  quarter of a century, if a club lost against Fenerbahce they can't win the Europa League or something along those lines? Please fill me in if you have more info on this, seems intriguing to me.

[Volgastallion]

I just heard the full history of the life of Denis Undav and damn man what a history of superation and what a crazy life he got, is very similar to the life of Jamie Vardy in some way, becoming proffesional at an age in which today is not the normal and super late, and after it starting to upgrade every single season division by division until reaching the top of the football.

[Black Mbaye]

I just heard the full history of the life of Denis Undav and damn man what a history of superation and what a crazy life he got, is very similar to the life of Jamie Vardy in some way, becoming proffesional at an age in which today is not the normal and super late, and after it starting to upgrade every single season division by division until reaching the top of the football.

He is currently performing brilliantly with the German national team. He has scored three goals and provided two assists coming on as a substitute for Germany. I think these statistics are among the best in the World Cup. We will see what he can do in the other stages of the tournament, but what we have seen is that he seems likely to remain a very strong asset for Nagelsmann as a substitute in matches.

[Tonimez]

Hmm, I agree with you. Bayern are always very good at monopolizing their own territory. But the rest of the German club get into trouble when they go to the European stage. Just like PSG in Ligue 1, they are outclassed by everyone with their money. Similarly the gap between them and the rest of Europe is a living fact.

The upper authority in the circles around Dortmund and Leverkusen should be a little more concerned about these issues. Because until they invest enough, it is not possible to see a completely equal fight on this board.

Both Dortmund and Leverkusen are teams that have tasted success, Dortmund being one of those that has almost made it a reality to win a Bundesliga title. However, things have to be tougher because Dortmund is a very good team and Leverkusen has already won it, and with an undefeated record, which is perfect, so they have what it takes to win that Bundesliga title.

No they don't have what it takes to win the Bundesliga. Coach is gone since then and several key players are gone since then. Leverkusen today is not Leverkusen 2024 and that makes a big difference. You can't just assume that because "Leverkusen" won it a few years ago, they have what it takes to win it next year. It is quite normal for these clubs that are not considered European top to lose most of their key players after a record breaking season. It was quite obvious that the team would more or less fall apart when Alonso and Wirtz leave. That alone was a big setback for Leverkusen as both were key figures for their success.

Bayern Leverkusen don't look strong to contest this season's title at all because they are currently a very weak team. The 2024 season was a thrilling season for the team and it would take a long time or a massive management decision to bring in good players that can compete with Bayern Munich in the league. Playing unbeaten in a season was a very big achievement despite loosing by 3 goals to nothing to Atalanta in the Europa League final. Florian Wirtz was a very helpful player and contributed immensely to the success of Bayern Leverkusen in the league victory. In as much as it's normal for such players to leave their teams after a fantastic season, I didn't expect Bayern Leverkusen to give him out that soon to Liverpool and even allowing Xabi Alonso to leave was a mistake too. Bayern Leverkusen could go several seasons now without lifting the league unless they some crucial signings. Dortmund still has higher chances compared to Bayern Leverkusen.

[$weetne$$]

Dortmund is that big team where all the great talents come to gain experience and then go to Bayern Munich most of the time, in any case the club is fine with it because they sell their players at very high prices and then make money from them and so they continue to stand up as a club, nothing wrong but sometimes you have to keep some strong players.

Fortunately Bayern Munich is not the only benefiting team from the sales of players Dortmund does, I think English teams benefit even more from that. I have also noticed that despite all the selling of those really fine players,  they have not suffered set backs that took them below top 5 position on the table,  so invariably they are still doing great and making fortune for the team, so they may aswell not stop any time soon.

[mv1986]

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Bayern Leverkusen don't look strong to contest this season's title at all because they are currently a very weak team. The 2024 season was a thrilling season for the team and it would take a long time or a massive management decision to bring in good players that can compete with Bayern Munich in the league. Playing unbeaten in a season was a very big achievement despite loosing by 3 goals to nothing to Atalanta in the Europa League final. Florian Wirtz was a very helpful player and contributed immensely to the success of Bayern Leverkusen in the league victory. In as much as it's normal for such players to leave their teams after a fantastic season, I didn't expect Bayern Leverkusen to give him out that soon to Liverpool and even allowing Xabi Alonso to leave was a mistake too. Bayern Leverkusen could go several seasons now without lifting the league unless they some crucial signings. Dortmund still has higher chances compared to Bayern Leverkusen.

Who is Bayern Leverkusen? Do they play in the German Bundesliga? Frankly, I have never heard of that club. There are a few clubs that sound similar to the gibberish you are talking about, but maybe you can specify which league Bayern Leverkusen plays and maybe which country.