Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[GiftedMAN]

I just heard the full history of the life of Denis Undav and damn man what a history of superation and what a crazy life he got, is very similar to the life of Jamie Vardy in some way, becoming proffesional at an age in which today is not the normal and super late, and after it starting to upgrade every single season division by division until reaching the top of the football.

He is currently performing brilliantly with the German national team. He has scored three goals and provided two assists coming on as a substitute for Germany. I think these statistics are among the best in the World Cup. We will see what he can do in the other stages of the tournament, but what we have seen is that he seems likely to remain a very strong asset for Nagelsmann as a substitute in matches.

So many of us hasn't really heard of Denis Undav before the commencement of this year's FIFA World Cup but somehow, the VfB Stuttgart forward has announced himself to the world with his outstanding performance in Germany's first two games of the tournament. To think that in the two games he's scored, there was none that he started makes him even more special. A lot of us are still not fully convinced of his quality and just like you said, we'll see if he can replicate his current form in the knockout stages.
He came in to the tournament as a VfB Stuttgart player but if he continues like this, he might likely not play in Stuttgart next season as a lot of top European clubs will definitely come for his services.

[Slow death]

And when you think about it, if Dortmund's main objective is to make money, winning the bundesliga could also bring financial benefits. On top of that, if the club kept its best players, they could pursue additional rewards in prestigious competitions like the UCL. Unfortunately, Dortmund seem to prefer the immediate profits that come from selling their players.

For Dortmund to win the Bundesliga, the club would have to spend a lot of money on expensive new signings, and the title wouldn't be guaranteed because they would have to fight against Bayern, who dominate the league. So they'll spend a lot of money to fight for the title, and after that, they won't win it. They'll have less profit than with their current system of acquiring new talent at very low prices and selling them for high prices, finishing in the top 3 and securing a place in the European Champions League, which gives them money for qualifying. It's a lucrative business for them; they don't spend much and continue to profit.

[len01]

I can understand that in football business can't be ruled out, but it should go hand in hand. Well what Borussia Dortmund have done so far is that they are more concerned with business than achievement.

If Dortmund also focused more on winning trophies, they would gain additional benefits from their success. And if they really wanted to, they could earn even more by prioritizing the most prestigious titles.

It's been more than 13 seasons since Dortmund last won the bundesliga. If they continue with the same approach, then it seems like they don't really need supporters or fans either. That would be a shame, because the fans keep showing their support year after year, yet Dortmund still hasn't delivered the level of success and satisfaction that many of them are hoping for.

[rachael9385]

Both Dortmund and Leverkusen are teams that have tasted success, Dortmund being one of those that has almost made it a reality to win a Bundesliga title. However, things have to be tougher because Dortmund is a very good team and Leverkusen has already won it, and with an undefeated record, which is perfect, so they have what it takes to win that Bundesliga title.

Dortmund and Leverkusen are good teams and they have won the title a few times in the past but for a long time Bayern Munich has been the only team occupying the first position on the league table and this doesn't seem to change. I hope either Leverkusen or Dortmund wins the title next season.

[SquallLeonhart]

There is an expression “Kill two birds with one stone”, maybe that's right to describe a team like Dortmund, they buy talented players and hone them into sharpness, when successful before selling them they will target the Bundesliga title, a real example is when in the Klopp era, but this method does not always work every season, after all, developing young talent is not easy, in addition to the appointment of the right coach is also very influential. This season is no exception, Dortmund may not compete competitively with Bayern, obviously because Bayern are in peak form and Dortmund are still building strength with the approach you have mentioned.

Everyone thinks Dortmund does that all the time, but that is not really true. The whole period where they sold Sancho first, Haaland afterwards and Jude later on, it looked like all Dortmund does was getting potential players, make them play a bit and get better and seen, and then they sell those for a lot higher.

Who did they sell last year? Gittens? That's it, nothing big, they did not have that type of player sale last year at all. The year before that? Max sale was 27 million, nothing. And the last year they did great was when they sold Jude, and even that year, Jude was the only player that they sold which made them any money, no other player was sold, second highest sale that year was literally just five million euro.

[Qhunman]

Dortmund and Leverkusen are good teams and they have won the title a few times in the past but for a long time Bayern Munich has been the only team occupying the first position on the league table and this doesn't seem to change. I hope either Leverkusen or Dortmund wins the title next season.

Borrusia Dortmund is a big team but it seems they are interested in the bundesliga title maybe that's they haven't won since 2012. The last time they won the bundesliga title was under Jurgen kloop since then they have been more focus on buying amateurs players,build them and sell them for higher prices. I think it profits them because they have made lots of money through it.. Dortmund is only interested in qualifying for the champions league every seasons and selling of players so there may not even win the title for decades I think leverkusen need an experience coach who can manage them like xabi Alonso did,I don't see that in Carles Martínez,I don't think leverkusen could win the title under him.

[pusaka]

I can understand that in football business can't be ruled out, but it should go hand in hand. Well what Borussia Dortmund have done so far is that they are more concerned with business than achievement.

If Dortmund also focused more on winning trophies, they would gain additional benefits from their success. And if they really wanted to, they could earn even more by prioritizing the most prestigious titles.

It's been more than 13 seasons since Dortmund last won the bundesliga. If they continue with the same approach, then it seems like they don't really need supporters or fans either. That would be a shame, because the fans keep showing their support year after year, yet Dortmund still hasn't delivered the level of success and satisfaction that many of them are hoping for.

Well they should also appreciate their fans, because they should realize that their fans are very loyal to them and very loyal to them. But they have so far, at least from the last time they were able to deliver it, until now they have not been able to return to deliver the title that the fans have wanted so much.

If they change their approach, I'm sure they can become champions again. But the question is whether they will change this or not? whether they are serious about getting achievements or not? this is something they have to answer for themselves. And one of them is to show that they're serious about achieving it.

[Velvet78]

I think Dortmund board is quite contented with their position with Kovac now. Maybe they aren't competitive for the title but keeping their current level is also important of course.

Ismael Saibari is the name I have recently read about.

He was the Eredivisie player of the season as he helped PSV with winning the Dutch league competition. I have never watched this guy on live TV but I have seen a clip or two after reading through the news of famous sports journalist FabrizioRomano. His numbers for PSV during his stay with them are quite impressive. He will surely raise his standards when he completely joins Bayern Munich.

Thanks for the information. I have just checked out about him and indeed he had an incredible season as it seems.    It looks like he has been the same for the last 2 years.

I'm even surprised why there wasn't anyone who signed him last summer. Bayern Munich has Musiala and Karl as natural AMs. Karl has picked up a serious injury. I see why they are focused on Saibari signing...

[qurbanshah02]

If Bayern Munich plays at the same pace, I think teams will fall behind again and it will be difficult for them to win the title. We have found Bayern Munich strong until the end and when they played well for a few weeks, teams won some good matches, but Bayern Munich was working hard to collect points from the beginning. This time too, their performance will continue in the same way and they will still not give anyone a chance for the title. Bayern Munich is resting now but will play better as soon as the season starts, which will put pressure on other teams and it will be difficult for them to stay ahead of Bayern Munich. Dortmund and other teams for whom it is important to stay behind Bayern Munich because their aim is not to let Bayern Munich win the title this time, but I think they will fail this time too. Bayern Munich will focus more on the Champions League because they will play with the intention of winning it this time too.

[Publictalk792]

I think Dortmund board is quite contented with their position with Kovac now. Maybe they aren't competitive for the title but keeping their current level is also important of course.

Ismael Saibari is the name I have recently read about.

He was the Eredivisie player of the season as he helped PSV with winning the Dutch league competition. I have never watched this guy on live TV but I have seen a clip or two after reading through the news of famous sports journalist FabrizioRomano. His numbers for PSV during his stay with them are quite impressive. He will surely raise his standards when he completely joins Bayern Munich.

Thanks for the information. I have just checked out about him and indeed he had an incredible season as it seems.    It looks like he has been the same for the last 2 years.

I'm even surprised why there wasn't anyone who signed him last summer. Bayern Munich has Musiala and Karl as natural AMs. Karl has picked up a serious injury. I see why they are focused on Saibari signing...

Saibari signing is pretty much complete with medical checks completed at New Jersey World Cup camp in Morocco and contract agreed to until 2031 with fee of around €52-55m.  Frankly his World Cup performance has made Bayern seem all more smart in making the early move. Ever since the agreement was made, his value has increased much as result of goals against Brazil and Scotland, making him one of the breakout stars of the tournament.

This Karl injury point is right on mark. Kompany obviously knew he had to get a handle on Bayern AM depth and Saibari was his first choice. It is believed, however, that it will be Bayern only big attacking move of the window so he is expected to get some out of them from day one. PSV is returning with 19 goals and 9 assists last season. If he can do something similar at Bundesliga level, it should be great deal already.

[Webetcoins]

Dortmund selling players do not mean that much, because they do not get better players to replace the old ones. Like okay they did sell Haaland, did they get any good strikers since then? Guissary? Really?

So yeah they are not doing fine, or Jude was sold for 130 million, did they get any good midfielder like him? Anyone with potential? Nope.

So in the end, we are talking about a team that manages to sell some players when they are lucky, but most of the time they end up selling their players and then fail to replace them with good players.

[Just Say]

Dortmund and Leverkusen are good teams and they have won the title a few times in the past but for a long time Bayern Munich has been the only team occupying the first position on the league table and this doesn't seem to change. I hope either Leverkusen or Dortmund wins the title next season.

Borussia Dortmund and Bayer Leverkusen are good teams and have won several titles in the past, i agree with you on this. We also noticed that Bayer Leverkusen won their last German league title under the leadership of current Chelsea manager Xabi Alonso, while Borussia Dortmund also won the Bundesliga trophy a long time ago. Honestly, these two teams will not be able to make much of an impact in the upcoming season because we can see that Bayern Munich is winning the trophy consistently in the German league and they have many better players in their team compared to other clubs, also the current German league champion team is very careful in retaining players, because they kept Michael Olise with their team despite receiving 150 million euro offer, so it can be said that this team will be able to regain the title in the upcoming season as well.

[DanWalker]

Dortmund selling players do not mean that much, because they do not get better players to replace the old ones. Like okay they did sell Haaland, did they get any good strikers since then? Guissary? Really?

So yeah they are not doing fine, or Jude was sold for 130 million, did they get any good midfielder like him? Anyone with potential? Nope.

So in the end, we are talking about a team that manages to sell some players when they are lucky, but most of the time they end up selling their players and then fail to replace them with good players.

Finding talented players and making them more experienced is not an easy task. It is very difficult. Even then, dortmund has managed to find several players. Dortmund has found talented players like Lewandowski, aubameyang and haaland. Maybe they have not been able to find  talented players in the last few  years. But they  have continued to try. Maybe in the future we will see a  talented forward or midfielder in dortmund's squad again.

[EarnOnVictor]

And when you think about it, if Dortmund's main objective is to make money, winning the bundesliga could also bring financial benefits. On top of that, if the club kept its best players, they could pursue additional rewards in prestigious competitions like the UCL. Unfortunately, Dortmund seem to prefer the immediate profits that come from selling their players.

For Dortmund to win the Bundesliga, the club would have to spend a lot of money on expensive new signings, and the title wouldn't be guaranteed because they would have to fight against Bayern, who dominate the league.

If you noticed what has been playing out for Dortmund, you would know that they are often favoured with the right signing but prioritise earning to keeping them. Many big names in the world of football were first discovered, or should I say earlier discovered by Dortmund, especially with the former coaches. But unfortunately, the pattern remains the same. This is why I don't think they can win the Bundesliga anytime soon until the pattern changes. They will always think of the money above anything else, which is obvious regardless of what they claim.

[Silence Scream]

And when you think about it, if Dortmund's main objective is to make money, winning the bundesliga could also bring financial benefits. On top of that, if the club kept its best players, they could pursue additional rewards in prestigious competitions like the UCL. Unfortunately, Dortmund seem to prefer the immediate profits that come from selling their players.

For Dortmund to win the Bundesliga, the club would have to spend a lot of money on expensive new signings, and the title wouldn't be guaranteed because they would have to fight against Bayern, who dominate the league.

If you noticed what has been playing out for Dortmund, you would know that they are often favoured with the right signing but prioritise earning to keeping them. Many big names in the world of football were first discovered, or should I say earlier discovered by Dortmund, especially with the former coaches. But unfortunately, the pattern remains the same. This is why I don't think they can win the Bundesliga anytime soon until the pattern changes. They will always think of the money above anything else, which is obvious regardless of what they claim.

Perhaps Borussia Dortmund should now focus on success in a different way. Many star players in world football have emerged from Borussia Dortmund. They have brought many high-quality players to world football. Now they should put aside making money and focus on achieving success. Where Bayern Munich dominates the league, Dortmund should be their biggest rival.

[wakier]

Both Dortmund and Leverkusen are teams that have tasted success, Dortmund being one of those that has almost made it a reality to win a Bundesliga title. However, things have to be tougher because Dortmund is a very good team and Leverkusen has already won it, and with an undefeated record, which is perfect, so they have what it takes to win that Bundesliga title.

Dortmund and Leverkusen are good teams and they have won the title a few times in the past but for a long time Bayern Munich has been the only team occupying the first position on the league table and this doesn't seem to change. I hope either Leverkusen or Dortmund wins the title next season.

Dortmund and Leverkusen it's always been competitors in challenging for the title for Bayern Munich but they always fail when approaching the end of the season, Leverkusen once broke Bayern Munich dominance in the 2023/24 season and won the title but that happened once when Bayern Munich experienced a setback so it can be concluded that if Bayern Munich does not experience a setback it is likely that Dortmund and Leverkusen will have difficulty winning the Bundesliga title unless they can perform more consistently than Bayern.

[jakdanyel]

I guess Bayern Munich isn't going to make big transfers this summer. I'm just thinking about the defense line...

Maybe for that area they might think of spending whatever is needed to make their defending stronger. Even though they dominated the Bundesliga they didn't look near flawless in defense. 

That was seen in the CL as well. Kompany must be aware of it but let's see if he convinces the board for such transfer.