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did you guys hear about EOS?
supposed to be huuuge!
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EOS ? What's that ? Can you share a link ?
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June 06, 2017, 07:03:31 AM |
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Seems to be some blockchain ecosystem based on a POS concept. I understand it's supposed to be an ecosystem like 'NEM' on which apps can be build/run. I'm not sure what's new (didn't we have POS with Peercoin already?) but there is a lot of enthusiasm visible in the fora, as EOS is supposed to solve a few issues that ETH has or may have. I welcome new projects with new ideas, but only a few will survive (=are useful/adopted IRL). No word on distribution method yet. official website: https://eos.io/ (bit mysterious ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ) Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904415.0
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June 06, 2017, 07:14:27 AM |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites
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June 06, 2017, 08:12:20 AM |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites Hyena you nailed man! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Dafar, you are ignorant. BTC does not innovate anymore. Now it has to steal inovations from other alts. Look how innovative alts boom. They made X20-X200 ROI within 12 months while you BTC made only X4 ROI ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Africoin EOS seems very interesting. I will definitely watch closer! What do you think about Status project? www.status.im
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June 06, 2017, 08:15:06 AM |
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Seems to be some blockchain ecosystem based on a POS concept. I understand it's supposed to be an ecosystem like 'NEM' on which apps can be build/run. I'm not sure what's new (didn't we have POS with Peercoin already?) but there is a lot of enthusiasm visible in the fora, as EOS is supposed to solve a few issues that ETH has or may have. I welcome new projects with new ideas, but only a few will survive (=are useful/adopted IRL). No word on distribution method yet. official website: https://eos.io/ (bit mysterious ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ) Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904415.0Thank you for the links. Yes only few projects with real usage will service. Copy cat coins have no future.
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June 07, 2017, 12:14:35 PM |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites Nice comment Hyena. I'd also add that side chains are a horrible idea
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June 07, 2017, 12:17:25 PM |
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Seems to be some blockchain ecosystem based on a POS concept. I understand it's supposed to be an ecosystem like 'NEM' on which apps can be build/run. I'm not sure what's new (didn't we have POS with Peercoin already?) but there is a lot of enthusiasm visible in the fora, as EOS is supposed to solve a few issues that ETH has or may have. I welcome new projects with new ideas, but only a few will survive (=are useful/adopted IRL). No word on distribution method yet. official website: https://eos.io/ (bit mysterious ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ) Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1904415.0Thank you for the links. Yes only few projects with real usage will service. Copy cat coins have no future. The offical website reminds me of this ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iancgbell.clara.net%2Felite%2Fthirty%2Fehpe30bbcelite.png&t=665&c=ifgbqTIKX3imGw)
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June 07, 2017, 02:30:41 PM |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites Bullshit, Core isn't even behind BIP148 so you might want to check up on your facts. Segwit is a genius piece of code and is being criticized by incompetent fools like you who can only parrot other fools who don't understand code either. Talking about morons and hypocrits. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 07, 2017, 03:54:41 PM |
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I sodl the most in a day since the start of the bull market.
I also sodl in the bit-sim game.
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June 07, 2017, 05:01:15 PM |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites Hyena you nailed man! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Dafar, you are ignorant. BTC does not innovate anymore. Now it has to steal inovations from other alts. Look how innovative alts boom. They made X20-X200 ROI within 12 months while you BTC made only X4 ROI ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Africoin EOS seems very interesting. I will definitely watch closer! What do you think about Status project? www.status.im So you are judging coins (or rather, "innovation") based on how much they were pumped?? HAHAHA MEOW coin pumped 5000% in 2014..... I guess it means it's a better coin than Bitcoin too? LMAO!!! You are a fucking moron. And Hyena is a Roger Ver nut hugger who's been brainwashed against his own interest like an idiot
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June 07, 2017, 08:09:20 PM |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites Hyena you nailed man! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Dafar, you are ignorant. BTC does not innovate anymore. Now it has to steal inovations from other alts. Look how innovative alts boom. They made X20-X200 ROI within 12 months while you BTC made only X4 ROI ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Africoin EOS seems very interesting. I will definitely watch closer! What do you think about Status project? www.status.im So you are judging coins (or rather, "innovation") based on how much they were pumped?? HAHAHA MEOW coin pumped 5000% in 2014..... I guess it means it's a better coin than Bitcoin too? LMAO!!! You are a fucking moron. And Hyena is a Roger Ver nut hugger who's been brainwashed against his own interest like an idiot Hey you ignorant asshole, good tech coins always make X20-X200 ROI. All the history of your shit BTC is also pump and dump. You really think BTC grew naturally you fucking moron? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) By the way do you still sell BTC on bottom and rebuy it on top? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 07, 2017, 09:10:12 PM Last edit: June 07, 2017, 09:52:11 PM by afbitcoins |
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Lol... says the pathetic blocknet shill advertising blocknet all over bitcointalk and desperately trying to undermine bitcoin.
Do you know bitcoin is the most secure, liquid and immutable crypto out there? Do you know bitcoin is here for good while shitcoins will come and go? Tech doesn't mean jack shit when bitcoin has the best developers and can adapt the tech of any shitcoin using sidechains and smartcontracts
best developers, don't make me laugh ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) those "best" developers are unable to even increase the block size limit they have crippled Bitcoin more than they have done any good SegWit is a clusterfuck of unnecessary code written in the name of a soft fork and now they want to hard fork Bitcoin with UASF in order to enforce their soft fork. Those guys are absolute morons and hypocrites Bullshit, Core isn't even behind BIP148 so you might want to check up on your facts. Segwit is a genius piece of code and is being criticized by incompetent fools like you who can only parrot other fools who don't understand code either. Talking about morons and hypocrits. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think the point Hyena was making was about the ridiculousness of implementing segwit as a softfork to avoid a hardfork, but then needing a hardfork to activate UASF which is the only way it looks like being accepted by the network. When a hardfork would have been the proper way to go from the start. Also I'd say the segwit 'bundle' of updates also includes malleability fix which is what enables offchain scaling like lightning network. To me at least it is very debateable that offchain scaling is the way to go.
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June 08, 2017, 07:22:26 AM |
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Anyone who still thinks SegWit is any good needs to read this: How do SegWit and FlexTrans compare?The reality of the situation is that people will need to upgrade their wallet anyway. As Bitcoin gets its value from networking we can see that networking will cause a ripple effect of upgrades. People that receive a payment from a SegWit user will not have any progress reports of that payment unless they have a SegWit wallet. Users pay more to users that don't have a SegWit wallet. The networked basis of money makes it a certainty that practically all people need to upgrade. And that begs the question if there really is a benefit to the SegWit solution.
SegWit has as its only feature for the future that it allows the Lightning Network to be deployed. The capacity increase is a joke compared to the needs of the network right now. It certainly is not a capacity that can be used in the future. Even with Lightning on top, the capacity allowed in a SegWit world will not allow Bitcoin to grow as peer to peer cash.
Flexible Transactions is not a capacity increase, it is a separate solution that can be combined very well with any capacity increase. Additionally, it is a format that is made to be extended. Adding fields to the format is expected and can be done safely. FlexTrans even dictates in the specification the allocation of various forwards compatible fields which can be used for soft upgrades.
The main drive for SegWit was to avoid forcing people to upgade. What we see today is that the same authors are pushing people really hard to upgrade to the latest version, even before SegWit is out. Their client refuses to connect to non-segwit peers for half the connections. They even used the alert system to get people to upgrade their client.
All this means that in actual fact the 'safe' upgrade strategy of SegWit is not happening. The natural conclusion is that the complexity introduced to avoid making people upgrade was wasted and there is no real benefit in their architecture over FlexTrans.
The Flexible Transactions deployment is a protocol upgrade that has as of today not been planned. The likely method is to decide that at a specific time (counted in blocks) in the far future this upgrade will become active. Allowing everyone many months to upgrade. If a user did not upgrade before the date hits his client will give a warning and he will be told to upgrade. Until he does there will be no service. This will guarantee no loss in funds and no loss in security or privacy.
The Flexible Transactions solution solves all problems that SegWit solves. On top of the features that SegWit has it lists some more which are essential to a healthy on-chain future growth for Bitcoin.
Flexible Transactions cost a fraction of SegWit, both in code written and future work to keep the network running.
The goal of SegWit that it would be easier to deploy, allowing people to not upgrade should they not want it, turns out to not be reached and it ends up dictating economic policy which is a sure sign of bad design.
There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions.
There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions.
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June 08, 2017, 01:19:03 PM |
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Apologies in advance Afrikoin since its off-topic! Anyone who still thinks SegWit is any good needs to read this: How do SegWit and FlexTrans compare?More incompetant rubbish There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There need only be ONE reason. That reason is the BU developers are amateur coders and should not be within a hundred miles of any production code. End of conversation.
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Apologies in advance Afrikoin since its off-topic! Anyone who still thinks SegWit is any good needs to read this: How do SegWit and FlexTrans compare?More incompetant rubbish There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There need only be ONE reason. That reason is the BU developers are amateur coders and should not be within a hundred miles of any production code. End of conversation. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F332qdfq.jpg&t=665&c=-xBvItvtvTSGBA)
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SegWit has as its only feature for the future that it allows the Lightning Network to be deployed.
What a bullshit. The one who wrote this piece is totally incompetent. Jesus Christ ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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Apologies in advance Afrikoin since its off-topic! Anyone who still thinks SegWit is any good needs to read this: How do SegWit and FlexTrans compare?More incompetant rubbish There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There need only be ONE reason. That reason is the BU developers are amateur coders and should not be within a hundred miles of any production code. End of conversation. Who's talking about BU in the first place you dimwit? Absolutely no mention nor reference to BU You must be hallucinating
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June 09, 2017, 06:34:05 PM |
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Apologies in advance Afrikoin since its off-topic! Anyone who still thinks SegWit is any good needs to read this: How do SegWit and FlexTrans compare?More incompetant rubbish There is no reason to choose SegWit over Flexible Transactions. There need only be ONE reason. That reason is the BU developers are amateur coders and should not be within a hundred miles of any production code. End of conversation. Who's talking about BU in the first place you dimwit? Absolutely no mention nor reference to BU You must be hallucinating You were an avid BU supporter not talking about it anymore because you realized (late) how fucking garbage that proposition is and their devs were shit. Now it's all about "flexible transactions" LOL Hey you ignorant asshole, good tech coins always make X20-X200 ROI. All the history of your shit BTC is also pump and dump. You really think BTC grew naturally you fucking moron? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) By the way do you still sell BTC on bottom and rebuy it on top? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Lol stay mad faggot... talking to a moron is a waste of my time
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interesting comments as we approach August 1. I guess it is a reflection of the divisiveness of the scaling deadlock. My opinion, Best Segwit proponents will get is Barry's SegWit2MBHF else UASF if UASF happens, then probability of chain split is much much higher What some are not aware of, is efforts by a pro on chain scaling group to scale onchain with miners support (majority) if you equate on chain scaling success to BU, you are off the mark. There's more going on than is readily observed in public Best believe there'll be a surprise in the coming weeks from pro-big blockers Never under estimate your 'enemy' I am also interested in how these events will affect price in the short term. place your long term holdls after clear vision meanwhile, this event should churn out interesting proposals on current deadlock ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FB7cbbkC.jpg&t=665&c=jfn0EvnD1q7lOw)
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