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[jvper]

It could also be an insider trading thing. One large insider suddenly couldn't invest today anymore, so they wait until tomorrow for him

That's what I'm worried about.

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

Last block? You mean every block from the first to the last block (around 6 blocks) during that first hour, right? Let's say block nnnnn is the block at 1 PM GMT and nnnnn+6 is the block at 2 GMT. blocks nnnn+1, nnnnn+2, ... nnnnn+5 are in the first hour and should have the 50% bonus too, right?

Last block that will contain the first 10 million DCT. This means if the limit for 50% bonus will be reached in the second block for example, the whole first and second block will be counted even if the overall amount will be higher than 10 M

Ok, then, if this last block (second, in your example) has even more bitcoin transactions, more than 10 million DCT might be sold with a bonus. Got it.

[magc16]

I got up early for this  

I would suggest increasing to 60% bonus for all forum members.  

[Hhampuz]

agree with all of you but better to take an other day to make sure all is ok then weeks/months with complainining and sorry's

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make  in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

If it was unnecessary as you say, then why did you do it? Lots of people are upset.

Sorry misspelling. It was necessary as we do not want this difficulties appear upon the actual ICO launch

So why did you lie and said it was about other bullshit reasons? Do you have any idea on how to approach potential investors or do you just not give a fuck?

[cryptohunter]

I got up early for this  

I would suggest increasing to 60% bonus for all forum members.  

I would suggest making a less weighted bonus system. If it sells out too quickly and many day 1 investors cant even invest then it will taint the entire project and look like a scam with 50 % profits already guaranteed to insiders.

[botija]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

[MatoB]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Yes we are aware of Antshares. DECENT ICO will start and open at exactly the same time for everyone. It doesn't matter how much you invest during the first 50% bonus.

[jvper]

I got up early for this  

I would suggest increasing to 60% bonus for all forum members.  

For the sake of fairness and equality? LOL

[botija]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Yes we are aware of Antshares. DECENT ICO will start and open at exactly the same time for everyone. It doesn't matter how much you invest during the first 50% bonus.

But what I'm saying is that in that ICO just two people invested 1,500 Bitcoins. If two whales invest 1,500 when the Decent ICO starts, then the 50% bonus would be done for in minutes. With only very few people getting the chance for the bonus, including two whales who will have an insane amount more than everyone else.

[jvper]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Did you see what happened to The DAO? This is an extremely risky investment! You may lose everything. If they want to put big money, let them do it if they can. Why would it be unfair? They will make as many times money as they will lose if it goes wrong.

[MatoB]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Yes we are aware of Antshares. DECENT ICO will start and open at exactly the same time for everyone. It doesn't matter how much you invest during the first 50% bonus.

But what I'm saying is that in that ICO just two people invested 1,500 Bitcoins. If two whales invest 1,500 when the Decent ICO starts, then the 50% bonus would be done for in minutes. With only very few people getting the chance for the bonus, including two whales who will have an insane amount more than everyone else.

The bonus is based also on Bitcoin block. You can read more here https://decent.ch/correlation-blocktime-decent-ico-bonus/

[jvper]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Yes we are aware of Antshares. DECENT ICO will start and open at exactly the same time for everyone. It doesn't matter how much you invest during the first 50% bonus.

But what I'm saying is that in that ICO just two people invested 1,500 Bitcoins. If two whales invest 1,500 when the Decent ICO starts, then the 50% bonus would be done for in minutes. With only very few people getting the chance for the bonus, including two whales who will have an insane amount more than everyone else.

Not really. If you send your btc in the same block as they did, you will get the 50% bonus as well, even if they bought all the 10 million DCT.

[MatoB]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Yes we are aware of Antshares. DECENT ICO will start and open at exactly the same time for everyone. It doesn't matter how much you invest during the first 50% bonus.

But what I'm saying is that in that ICO just two people invested 1,500 Bitcoins. If two whales invest 1,500 when the Decent ICO starts, then the 50% bonus would be done for in minutes. With only very few people getting the chance for the bonus, including two whales who will have an insane amount more than everyone else.

Not really. If you send your btc in the same block as they did, you will get the 50% bonus as well, even if they bought all the 10 million DCT.

Exactly

[botija]

What about having a first day 50% bonus. That would be a bit more fair than just having 1,250 or so BTC limit that will certainly attract whales. You can't stop whales from buying, but we can stop them from them virtually being the only ones with the bonus.

[MatoB]

What about having a first day 50% bonus. That would be a bit more fair than just having 1,250 or so BTC limit that will certainly attract whales. You can't stop whales from buying, but we can stop them from them virtually being the only ones with the bonus.

As it was stated before you can get into the same bonus if you get in in the beginning and your transaction is listed in these blocks where the 10M bonus will be sold out.

[botija]

Has anyone here seen the list that shows the rankings for Antshares investors? Number one on that list is one person who invested 1,000 Bitcoins. Number 2 is another person who invested 500 BTC. A similar situation with Decent, and it would be extremely unfair. Perhaps 50% bonus for the 1st few people who invest is not the best idea.

Yes we are aware of Antshares. DECENT ICO will start and open at exactly the same time for everyone. It doesn't matter how much you invest during the first 50% bonus.

But what I'm saying is that in that ICO just two people invested 1,500 Bitcoins. If two whales invest 1,500 when the Decent ICO starts, then the 50% bonus would be done for in minutes. With only very few people getting the chance for the bonus, including two whales who will have an insane amount more than everyone else.

Not really. If you send your btc in the same block as they did, you will get the 50% bonus as well, even if they bought all the 10 million DCT.

Yeah, that's technically true, but the point is that the opportunity is not going to be there for long if two whales eat up the full 10 million in the 1st block. It would be a raise against the clock. Any little mistake in creating your account could slow a person down enough to miss it.

[menace.bit]

So what is the real reason again?
MatoB - you are 1 of the devs right? But why is DECENT stating another reason?

And what does "overwhelming community outreach" even mean?

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make  in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

[MatoB]

So what is the real reason again?
MatoB - you are 1 of the devs right? But why is DECENT stating another reason?

And what does "overwhelming community outreach" even mean?

This is not the cause. As we stated before we wan't to give everyone equal chance. Regarding the bonus it's based on last bitcoin block that will have these transactions in there and this whole block is counted in with 50% bonus. Our infrastructure will be boosted up till tomorrow so we will have stable state during the ICO.

Technical difficulties with the servers are reason for our decision to change the ICO start. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused to all of you. It was a hard but unnecesary decision to make  in order to be 100% sure that once we launch the iCO everything will be stable and working.

We had some issues with infrastructure that are being fixed right now. We need to be sure that all is set up correctly and the ICO will have smooth run

[GGALINff]

it's a load of crap -  everyone knows it

to make it fair-  eliminate all bonuses,  you are creating negativity and obviously could not handle the traffic on your website

[MarkWi1son]

Go go go 9/11 :S

If some issues tmrw, I suggest FRIDAY 13 as next possible launch date!

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