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June 15, 2016, 06:22:51 PM
Last edit: June 15, 2016, 06:39:47 PM by Compa
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this is bot? just post number  Angry

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417000.msg15224365#msg15224365

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June 15, 2016, 07:18:05 PM
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You mean the topic being #417,000? It's most likely pure luck, since there is nothing else about the user that resembles something that a bot would do (more just a person promoting his altcoin).
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You mean the topic being #417,000? It's most likely pure luck, since there is nothing else about the user that resembles something that a bot would do (more just a person promoting his altcoin).

Maybe moderator have already delete it.  Grin



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June 16, 2016, 04:27:48 PM
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I actually keep a list of some of 'em:

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628366 BitsandBites
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628367 GermanFoobla
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628372 NordicRanger
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605296 Ulloa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605307 Piltlover
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=600367 Zaun
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388805 Oscoda
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=510700 HarryKPeters
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628362 FabioDelcatto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662367 Ocytrem
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656750 Evansloin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651666 Pwerd
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653600 Ocalebeth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651685 Agraoclya
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653659 Dwetha
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651660 Mirardowyn
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653617 Umigokath
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647233 Maxumi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656722 Lesterexon
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662353 Vannterson
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647212 Ereacia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656836 Gloiri
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651671 Hedrilin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662363 Etaurith
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662360 Gwerrahar
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662362 Antesth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656742 Hallseplex
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656731 Jaxelrell
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648577 Gliassa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672222 McCombstech
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672233 Hettinger
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=647201 Friladon
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648457 Ethalir
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653585 Eroanwan
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672238 Nolankane
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672235 Oceriw
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648448 Cendassi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672240 Adwoif
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648435 Braeron
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653657 Bradexterb
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672241 Qaoven
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656820 Alauria
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699005 Vaclya
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651686 Adaleon
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656787 Aceanyth
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699018 Zaelle
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642933 Ybalevia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630487 MichealKnightrider
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699025 Jeraerid
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630528 JohnyWalkerUK
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699029 Thaliron
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642849 Legasean
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=699034 Viakor
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641342 FrannWilder
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648391 TravisNeko
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=653591 Superbox
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630500 Sandroxa
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630501 DuckKeeper
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630509 BombayChicken
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630521 JeanMcCoy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630531 Chrismeister
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630534 DavidoAlto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=631033 AlexBits
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641347 Fofofolo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641391 Etaren
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641387 Galiatram
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642825 rektDude
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642854 Cozynunu
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642860 Androrecia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642873 Dwelach
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642924 Adrayrd
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=696254 RyanLiang
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668601 Pasttimeuftor
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668610 Sictalfia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668293 Hanacerty
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668607 Rugtilf
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668291 Gastotade
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=667954 Yanidas
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665342 Gasturcas
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668247 Apened
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665000 EastSound
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668658 Fanpant
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698351 Gotimour
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=698362 Jackling

They're all the same.

If you are a staff + you are convinced that all these ids are the same + you have evidence of copy-pasting, then why aren't they banned?
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June 16, 2016, 04:45:22 PM
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I've banned some of them before for copy and pasting but not sure all are. I'll have to look into it.

Just banned anopther five copy and pasters and there's still likely many more. If anyone wants to help out busting bots just go to the typical spammy threads and check the latest posts. If you copy two or three fairly unique words or look for typos you sometimes get a hit. Example:

From the thread Gambling. Is It Wrong?: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1166089.0

One of the latest posts:

When you gamble, Make your own rules, and FOLLOW them strictly.

I have a lot of rules when I gamble, I have "fun" money whether it be bitcoin or cash.  I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money.

Also-know when to quit when you are ahead, I don't ever set a goal for how much I want to be up, because if you are so close to that amount, you might never hit it and then be out of money.  Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs, I will say, ok, I am going to be up this amount no matter what, and replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit.

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it.

Using the search bot with 'Also-know' gives you a few hits:

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it. Most of the time you loose, and it takes lot's of time, money, bets and effort to skill up.
I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money. Also-know when to quit when you are ahead. Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs,I will replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit. Grin


When you gamble, Make your own rules, and FOLLOW them strictly. 

I have a lot of rules when I gamble, I have "fun" money whether it be bitcoin or cash.  I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money.

Also-know when to quit when you are ahead, I don't ever set a goal for how much I want to be up, because if you are so close to that amount, you might never hit it and then be out of money.  Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs, I will say, ok, I am going to be up this amount no matter what, and replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit.

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it.

All from this original post:

Original post:

When you gamble, Make your own rules, and FOLLOW them strictly. 

I have a lot of rules when I gamble, I have "fun" money whether it be bitcoin or cash.  I don't ever lose more than that what I had set aside for the fun money.

Also-know when to quit when you are ahead, I don't ever set a goal for how much I want to be up, because if you are so close to that amount, you might never hit it and then be out of money.  Usually depends on the situation, but if I hit a couple lucky runs, I will say, ok, I am going to be up this amount no matter what, and replace my fun money with profits, so that even if I lose, I still maintain my profit.

Use gambling as a time for fun, don't try to get rich out of it.

Once you find one user that has done this check the posts quickly after it as a lot of the time they'll have alts posting one after the other copying different posts. It's time consiming and essentially playing whack a mole but it feels good when you get a few shitposters  Grin.

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June 16, 2016, 05:09:38 PM
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I'm sure someone will come up with an anti-bot, where it detects copy pasters, and grades or scores according to how much was copied that isn't quoted. Something like copyscape. And with a quick look by a real human, we can decide if it's spammy enough or bott-ish.

We sure wouldn't want an auto-banner that goes on an uncontrolled rampage.

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How much leniency are copy-pasters shown?
My view is 3 or more instances are sufficient for a perma-ban.
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How much leniency are copy-pasters shown?
My view is 3 or more instances are sufficient for a perma-ban.

One is all you need. If you've copied a person's post then you'll likely do it again but once I find one I'll usually have a quick look at their recent page of posts and check a few and you'll usually find there's many more but I don't have time to go through every page to see how many posts they may or may not have copied. There's no justification why anyone should copy a user's posts and it's simply just a lazy way of sig spamming/farming and trying to appear constructive and that's why we have a zero tolerance for it. The only leniency I would give is with someone copying external content just the once but copy another users post here and you're done no exceptions.

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June 17, 2016, 04:21:58 PM
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Hmm...

Here is one....

Example 1
Lol wat??
You don't have to believe in fiat, it exists and it works for day to day transactions.  Don't know about its future.

The history of fiat money, to put it kindly, has been one of failure. In fact, EVERY fiat currency since the Romans first began the practice in the first century has ended in devaluation and eventual collapse, of not only the currency, but of the economy that housed the fiat currency as well.

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Banks will be encouraged to lend more to their weakest borrowers and take on excessive risks if global regulators push ahead with a rule change aimed at making it harder to cheat on safety measures, a leading industry group has warned.

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I had noted that BigBoy89, HarHarHar9965, greBit, ausbit and Marbit had connected addresses at one point of time.

I had posted examples of BigBoy99 and HarHarHar9965 copy-pasting stuff earlier, but they got away.
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You have to be a real low-life to make a bot, or buy one, to post for you. It is already quite easy to post for yourself and you learn things about Bitcoin as well. Why do people do such things?
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June 18, 2016, 11:28:53 AM
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Hmm...

Here is one....

I had noted that BigBoy89, HarHarHar9965, greBit, ausbit and Marbit had connected addresses at one point of time.

I had posted examples of BigBoy99 and HarHarHar9965 copy-pasting stuff earlier, but they got away.


Banned. Will look into the others later.

You have to be a real low-life to make a bot, or buy one, to post for you. It is already quite easy to post for yourself and you learn things about Bitcoin as well. Why do people do such things?

Most of these Indonesians and Fillipino spammers probably wont have a bot and will likely just find an older post and copy and paste in manually. Why do they do it? Greed and laziness. If they struggle with English it's much easier to just copy and paste a constructive post then risk getting banned for shitposting but it's not really worth it because you'll get caught eventually and all your accounts will be banned in the process.

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June 25, 2016, 02:41:50 PM
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I've got another one, just started their operation off, Duivel. Either Copy&Paste-spam posts or Games & Rounds spam.

999dice is not provably fair and accused a scam.
999dice is not provably fair and accused a scam.

First of all this is best faucet i have ever seen. Gambling without deposit, just what you claim from faucet and other players tipping you and rain on you with coins, so there is no risk of losing money!
First of all this is best faucet i have ever seen. Gambling without deposit, just what you claim from faucet and other players tipping you and rain on you with coins, so there is no risk of losing money!

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June 26, 2016, 03:37:42 AM
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I've got another one, just started their operation off, Duivel. Either Copy&Paste-spam posts or Games & Rounds spam.

999dice is not provably fair and accused a scam.
999dice is not provably fair and accused a scam.

First of all this is best faucet i have ever seen. Gambling without deposit, just what you claim from faucet and other players tipping you and rain on you with coins, so there is no risk of losing money!
First of all this is best faucet i have ever seen. Gambling without deposit, just what you claim from faucet and other players tipping you and rain on you with coins, so there is no risk of losing money!

Reported 5 mins ago (12 hours late). There should be a feature that allows only one report for one person/post lol Grin
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June 26, 2016, 03:40:25 AM
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Reported 5 mins ago. There should be a feature that allows only one report for one person/post lol
Something like "you already have reported this post" or even better "somebody already reported this post to moderation, we'll take a look at the report shortly", yes.
It would help me from time to time, when I'm not really sure whether or not I already have a specific post/user reported...
Maybe that's something for the new forum software Smiley

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June 26, 2016, 04:08:42 PM
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I've got another one, just started their operation off, Duivel. Either Copy&Paste-spam posts or Games & Rounds spam.

999dice is not provably fair and accused a scam.
999dice is not provably fair and accused a scam.

First of all this is best faucet i have ever seen. Gambling without deposit, just what you claim from faucet and other players tipping you and rain on you with coins, so there is no risk of losing money!
First of all this is best faucet i have ever seen. Gambling without deposit, just what you claim from faucet and other players tipping you and rain on you with coins, so there is no risk of losing money!

Reported 5 mins ago (12 hours late). There should be a feature that allows only one report for one person/post lol Grin
The user Duivel is mine wife and her English isn't that great. She hoped to participate in some Primedice giveaways but needed an higher forum level required for some giveaways. She decided that it was more easy to copy and paste some text but wasn't aware it was not aloud. She also didn't ask me if it was aloud so I couldn't tell her about it. She never had any bad intentions.

She only play some simple Bitcoin games and gamble a little bit only with that reason she use this forum. Is there a chance that she can get deblocked. Sorry for the problems that occurred hope this can get fixed.
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The user Duivel is mine wife and her English isn't that great. She hoped to participate in some Primedice giveaways but needed an higher forum level required for some giveaways. She decided that it was more easy to copy and paste some text but wasn't aware it was not aloud. She also didn't ask me if it was aloud so I couldn't tell her about it. She never had any bad intentions.

She only play some simple Bitcoin games and gamble a little bit only with that reason she use this forum. Is there a chance that she can get deblocked. Sorry for the problems that occurred hope this can get fixed.

Do you share the same IP? If yes, then it may be better for you to avoid the forum for some time, or you could get nailed for ban evasion.
People use the argument of brother/roommate/wife sharing the internet connection to evade bans using their alts, but this argument is usually not accepted.
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Another one.

mostly poker players.It is a game where you choose to bet or not,depending on how strong your hand is.All the other games have odds that favour the casino.Therefore you will always loose in the long run.
If you are disciplined and willing to learn than you can definitely make money from playing poker.Alongside discipline you have to be good at managing your bankroll.For instance if you have $500,You should be playing with $20-$50 at every table you play.Once you build your bankroll and poker skills you can move to higher stakes.

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Yea, mostly poker players.It is a game where you choose to bet or not,depending on how strong your hand is.All the other games have odds that favour the casino.Therefore you will always loose in the longrun.
If you are disiplined and willing to learn than you can definately make money from playing poker.Alongside discipline you have to be good at managing your bankroll.For instance if you have $500,You should be playing with $20-$50 at everytable you play.Once you build your bankroll and poker skills you can move to higher stakes.


Gambling when done properly can be a very entertaining and enjoyable activity. When abused it can be one of the worst things in the world. Gambling is just like drinking. Out about 100 people who drink, maybe 20 have problems with it. Gambling is the same way. And the effects of the problem are about the same as well.

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Gambling when done properly can be a very entertaining and enjoyable activity. When abused it can be one of thw worst things in the world.
Gambling is just like drinking. Out about 100 people who drink, maybe 20 have problems with it. Gambling is the same way. And the effects of the problem are about the same as well.


On a positive note, he at least corrected the typo.  Tongue
More copied posts are present, but I presume the above details are sufficient...
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July 13, 2016, 04:28:53 AM
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Bots are easily distinguished among members. Bots are 100% accurate, if you've seen too perfect posts about a certain topic, or too off-topic about that post, then that is easily perceptible. One example of this is if the topic is about Etherium mining and you've seen a post regarding other Altcoins. Then that would be easily distinguished.

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July 15, 2016, 06:12:52 AM
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What a strategy to have a constructive post copying the same post by other members. There should be a punishment to these user.

But I think, for me getting some several lines from others and combined them is fine as long as it make sense and not off topic. Atleast they made a little effort. But copying the same post and just pasting it which they didn't made any effort have a penalty. Just my 20cents (This is only my opinion, of course im not doing it)

A basic rewriting script can also be used. There are many out there free to download and people write their own. For example. Take the post I am quoting. Running it through a one pass rewrite app; this is what it generated all on its own, I made no changes to it myself.



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What a strategy to have a constructive post copying the same post by other members. There should be a punishment to these user.

But I think, for me getting some several lines from others and combined them is fine as long as it make sense and not off topic. Atleast they made a little effort. But copying the same post and just pasting it which they didn't made any effort have a penalty. Just my 20cents (This is only my opinion, of course im not doing it)



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What a system to have a valuable post duplicating the same post by different individuals. There ought to be a discipline to these client.

Be that as it may, I think, for me getting exactly a few lines from others and consolidated them is fine the length of it bode well and not off point. Atleast they tried. However, duplicating the same post and simply gluing it which they didn't attempted have a punishment. Simply my 20cents (This is just my feeling, obviously im not doing it)



No it's not perfect, but its passable as a "non first language english" person perhaps.

Honestly, I feel every day more and more the content I see online, whether on twitter, news posts, blogs, everywhere, its not a human at all. Scary. And to think it's just the begining.


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People have probably used them in the past. Used to see quite a few posts that had copied an entire post but changed a few words for a synonym etc.

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