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April 07, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
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Efficiency advantages should not be the grounds on which to condemn Bitmain, nor should ethics or morality, these were not a part of the founding principles of Bitcoin.  It is written in the rules that PoW mining is a free market as has been said, and is subject to the rules of a free market. It's also disingenuous to claim that shortcuts in the PoW process are an exploit, if they still accomplish the same goal with the same level of security. At most they could be considered an oversight in the design of Merkle–Damgård construction, but in that case they are evenly open to said optimization (patents do not apply to this argument).  The empty block argument is also null, it does not effectively hurt the bitcoin ecosystem, it is simply a byproduct of a process improvement.  That said, I fully side with Nick Szabo in what he said:

"Secret mining advantage is expected. The problem is incentive to oppose incompatible upgrades for secret reasons."

That is it.  No condemnation of shady Chinese backdoor deals about hardware improvements, or how they potentially de-frauded their customers by selling them hardware that was neutered in order to hinder competition and hide their own advantages.  None of that has any bearing on this conversation (though ti deserves its own).  Just remove the roadblocks that hinder future improvement protocols (covert boost), and demand transparency in issues that revolve around bitcoin governance and the future of the protocol instead of hiding behind secret agendas. 

If Bitmain is already taking advantage of ASICboost covertly for their own mining, and they own the patent in their own jurisdiction (again, set morality/ethics of potential infringement aside), then what would prevent them from continuing to use ASICboost technology overtly and reap the same advantage/benefit they are already? If it's to protect the public opinion of their company, they need to take their head out of the sand. Everyone knows what they are about.

Efficiency advantages should not be the grounds on which to condemn Bitmain, nor should ethics or morality, these were not a part of the founding principles of Bitcoin.  It is written in the rules that PoW mining is a free market as has been said, and is subject to the rules of a free market. It's also disingenuous to claim that shortcuts in the PoW process are an exploit, if they still accomplish the same goal with the same level of security. At most they could be considered an oversight in the design of Merkle–Damgård construction, but in that case they are evenly open to said optimization (patents do not apply to this argument).  The empty block argument is also null, it does not effectively hurt the bitcoin ecosystem, it is simply a byproduct of a process improvement.  That said, I fully side with Nick Szabo in what he said:

"Secret mining advantage is expected. The problem is incentive to oppose incompatible upgrades for secret reasons."

That is it.  No condemnation of shady Chinese backdoor deals about hardware improvements, or how they potentially de-frauded their customers by selling them hardware that was neutered in order to hinder competition and hide their own advantages.  None of that has any bearing on this conversation (though ti deserves its own).  Just remove the roadblocks that hinder future improvement protocols (covert boost), and demand transparency in issues that revolve around bitcoin governance and the future of the protocol instead of hiding behind secret agendas. 

If Bitmain is already taking advantage of ASICboost covertly for their own mining, and they own the patent in their own jurisdiction (again, set morality/ethics of potential infringement aside), then what would prevent them from continuing to use ASICboost technology overtly and reap the same advantage/benefit they are already? If it's to protect the public opinion of their company, they need to take their head out of the sand. Everyone knows what they are about.
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April 07, 2017, 10:00:24 AM
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Why you think this should be a bot? Maybe someone is just copy-pasting posts, without any scripts.
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April 07, 2017, 01:20:14 PM
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It's not a bot.  Wetsuit offered a reward in addition to the $20 for posting after winning on freebitcoin.  It's in one of the threads you linked to.

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April 07, 2017, 03:07:16 PM
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Efficiency advantages should not be the grounds on which to condemn Bitmain, nor should ethics or morality, these were not a part of the

Efficiency advantages should not be the grounds on which to condemn Bitmain, nor should ethics or morality, these were not a part of the

Banned. Thanks.

Why you think this should be a bot? Maybe someone is just copy-pasting posts, without any scripts.

Doesn't rerally matter whether they're using a bot or doing it manually to be honest.

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April 08, 2017, 07:04:46 PM
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I am looking for best online casino for sports game betting  .
in last of few days I tried cloudbet.com but this site has little bit lazy host provider (my opinion )
please Here post your best gambling/betting site for sports games & also tell your reason that why you like that site :/
There are Many Online Casinos You can Try Out Online to do Gambling Like Bitvest, Cloudbet, Directbet and Many Other Websites are Available to Do Gambling But I Don't Suggest anyone to Take Gambling Seriously and Put Big Money In Gambling Because Gambling is Just a Shit Game of Luck and No one Wants to Waste his Money On a Luck Based Game.......

If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?
According to me Gambling Never Be Profitable in Long Term Because Gambling is Just a Shit Game Based On Luck and All the Casinos of the World Works on a Probability Basis and it's not possible to win from a casino.
So I Suggest you to Don't Take Gambling Seriously Just Do Gambling For Fun Sometimes.......

I am not searching for a shortcut, but trying to figure out where I am lagging.
But I am afraid I may end up wasting half of my life in finding out a perfect strategy.

Probably no or random strategy is the right approach ? or just searching for a new strategy is the real fun in gambling ?
According to me there is no strategy in Gambling because Gambling is Just a Shit Game Based on Luck, It's Not a Business to Think and Make Strategy to Grow or Expand your Business. So I Suggest you to Never Try to Make Profit By Doing Gambling Because It will Never Make You Rich.........

There are many gambling sites. Many of them serve as dice sites.

What are the features you should have in a good gambling site?
According to me All the Gambling Sites are Probably Fair to their Users and Have Some Bonuses and Less Withdrawal Fees and Gambling Website Owner Should Focus on Their Users Experience on their Website. Only Then I Can Say that Gambling Website is Good.........

I've became interested in playing dice games with my BTC but every time I play I lose. Is there something that I'm doing wrong, or dice games are supposed to be like that? (sorry I'm new to this) Isn't there a guide or tutorial where I could get started playing these games? I don't know how this really works. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks  Wink

So far, I like dicecoin.io  Cheesy
According to me there is no Strategy to win in Gambling Games Like dice Games Because all the Dice Sites work on a Probability Basis So It's Not Possible to Win On that type Of Website But You can do Gambling For Fun But it's not Possible to Make Big Money in Dice Games So I Suggest You to Do Some Other Business Instead Of Wasting your Money in Dice Sites.....

My game is craps.
It is always interesting to see how the night goes on that.
My Favourite Game is Dice Games Because I Feel Fun When I Start Playing Dice Games and Also I Only Do this For Fun Only Because Gambling is Just a Shit Game Based On Luck and I Don't Want to Waste My Money in a Luck Based Game But Sometimes it is Good For Fun Only........

Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
According to me Gambling is Just a Shit Game That Will Waste your Time And Money Because Gambling is Just Based On Luck and How Someone Can Put Money in a Luck Based Game To Make Profit, So I Suggest You to Don't Do Gambling Because You will End Up With No Profit Even You can Lose Your Money You are Doing Gambling with.....

I still wondered after watching one dice gambling tips on youtube. she suggested to use a vpn American countries. Do you think the state and affect our current location to gamble? , please give your opinion
No According to me it Doesn't Effect your Winning Chances Because all the Casinos of World Work on a Probability Basis and But You can Use a VPN If you Want to Do Gambling But the Gambling Website Don't Available in your Country But I Don't Suggest Anyone to Do Gambling Because it's Just a Game Of Luck and No One can Become Rich Through Gambling........

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?
Trading Can Never Be Same as Gambling Because Gambling is Just a Shit Game Based on Your Luck and You Don't Need any Technical Knowledge and Experience in it But On the Other Hand In Trading You Need to Use Your Knowledge and Experience to Make Profit From Your Invested Money.......

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I'm not a fan of gambling by itself, but instead as a way of studying and learning about other things.  For instance, I'm sure that if elderly people kept playing card games, it would help keep their minds alert.  Studying poker involves studying human nature and probabilities.   There are other aspects like studying risk in gambling, which is like studying risk in investing. 

Does anyone have any examples of how gambling is like investing?


According to me it's not possible that anyone can become perfect by just doing Gambling because Gambling is just a Game Of Luck and a User can't win for long term because all the Casinos of the World work on a probability basis so I Don't Suggest anyone to do Gambling in order to make some money.......

Hey? good day to you mates i have something bothering me like crazy my brother is one hell perfect guy because he won big time in gambling so he called him self perfect because he has a lot of money now and he's beginning to have a a nice car with beautiful girlfriend  because of gambling i am here to ask you how can gambling make someone perfect? if it is why does gambling make someone perfect we are equal but gambling made him perfect >.<
According to me it's not possible that anyone can become perfect by just doing Gambling because Gambling is just a Game Of Luck and a User can't win for long term because all the Casinos of the World work on a probability basis so I Don't Suggest anyone to do Gambling in order to make some money.......


I am not sure is this bot or someone is writing, but there are bunch of variations of "according to me gambling is just shit game of luck, casinos are provably fair and I suggest you to not to gamble".
Last 2 are c/p.



And also these posts are looking the same

For those experienced people in Bitcoin, any encouragement to us beginner that may motivate us further to strive more in the world of bitcoin ? any experiences that you can share when you were still a beginner that pushed you to make it to the next level ?
According to me You Should Firstly Gain Adequate Knowledge about the Cryptocurrencies and After that I Suggest you to Try to Buy Little Amount of Bitcoins and Try to Grow them By Doing Trading and Doing Some Other Activities that help you to grow your Bitcoins.......

I am new member, I don't know how to start with the bitcoin. It very difficult with me. Excuse me! But Everybody can help me by show me, how to buy one coin and advertise it and Make my coin a name. Thanks you very much.
I Think You Need Some Important Information About Bitcoin or other Altcoins Before Buying Bitcoin or any other Coin Because Firstly Gain Some Knowledge and After that Gain Experience about the Bitcoin and Other Altcoins.....

There are two name for fluctuating of price,
Price going up is bullish and price going down is bearish.
And name for traders are pigs because there are many traders lost their money on trading. That is why we need system trading or trading plan as weapon and Shield for counter bears and bulls.  Grin
Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs? They get slaughtered
According to me it's Better to Firstly Study the Markets and Having Knowledge about trading and Knowledge about the Coin you are Investing your Money in and Also Have knowledge of the Market Cap, Demand and Supply and Other Things Realted to that Altcoin...........

I want to share with you guys some methods how all of you (except those who are using these methods) can benefit from your Bitcoin holdings. But please have in mind that trading is always risky and it requires knowledge and sophisticated approach. If you know and understand your responsability, you can give a try. Myself, I have profits trading on these platforms.

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Happy trading and big profits!
As You Said Above that Trading is Risky So I Suggest the Newbies who Want to Start Trading that Firstly Get Some Knowledge about Trading Online and then Start Doing Trading Because Trading is a Unpredictable Job and Without Knowledge You can Lose Your All Money.
So Don't Try Out Trading without Proper Knowledge.....
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April 15, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
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Just saw this while visiting one of the threads in my watchlist.

just visited the site , is this a PTC site? site not yet lunched am i right ? i will keep my eye on the site,although ptc site is bore to me,but you have mention the rate is very high.
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  will keep my eye on the site,although ptc site is bore to me,but you have mention the rate is very high.
good luck

The post was snipped and just added words in both beginning and ending of the post. (Archived)



Another evidence:

This team have the unique idea with great potential to generate income in real life. I would like to support this so hopefully this ICO will be successful.
This group have the one of a kind thought with awesome potential to create pay, in actuality. I might want to bolster this so ideally this ICO will be fruitful

The post was copied and make some changes with the words by using synonyms. (Archived)

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April 15, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
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Banned. Thanks.

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April 15, 2017, 12:44:27 PM
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trading is diffult. bt you can following some rules. you become trader..
    1.Decide if this is the right strategy for you. ...
    2.Get an education. ...
    3.Select an online broker. ...
    4.Start researching stocks. ...
    5.Make a plan and stick to it. ..
One advice for u (No risk No gain). trading is so risk bt u can follow this ..i think you can succes.

The topic is about trading alts and the user responds about researching stocks. That is because the 5 steps are copied from
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/investing/5-steps-start-trading-stocks-online/
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Another one. Copied word to word, with spelling mistakes et al.

Message to barca fans : Want to talk about bad refereeing ? watch PSG 1-6 Barca. You people are the last ones who should talk about corruption and bad referee. About CR7 yes he did score only 2 goals from the penalty box. But this game is all about goals. Finishing is all that counts. Dont believe me? Your team is on the verge of UCL exit because suarez and iniesta couldnt finish. Take that. Message to my fellow RM fans : Yeah it was a good game overall. But dont be overconfident and ignorant. The tie is far from over and with Lewa in madrid leg anything can happen. Its just 2-1.
btw : Take tym to appreciate superb goalkeeping performances from Buffon yesterday and Neur today. Goalkeepers never get praised enough!

http://www.goal.com/en/match/bayern-m%C3%BCnchen-vs-real-madrid/2428329/report
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Message to barca fans : Want to talk about bad refereeing ? watch PSG 1-6 Barca. You people are the last ones who should talk about corruption and bad referee.
About CR7 yes he did score only 2 goals from the penalty box. But this game is all about goals. Finishing is all that counts. Dont believe me? Your team is on the verge of UCL exit because suarez and iniesta couldnt finish. Take that.
Message to my fellow RM fans : Yeah it was a good game overall. But dont be overconfident and ignorant. The tie is far from over and with Lewa in madrid leg anything can happen. Its just 2-1.
bdw : Take tym to appreciate superb goalkeeping performances from Buffon yesterday and Neur today. Goalkeepers never get praised enough!


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April 15, 2017, 01:16:46 PM
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Banned. These shitcoin campaigns are getting out of hand with the bots. They never check users posts at any stage of the campaign. Accept anyone and pay for anything.

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April 15, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
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Another one... Rich pickings today.  Grin

La Liga only big team is Madrid. Barca became big with Raijkaard. Ateltico de Madrid no history, every other team very little history. EPL - Liverpool, Chelsea, ManU, Nottingham and Aston Villa have all one the CL. Only spanish team to win CL is Madrid and Barcelona. No one else. Please don't compare rich history vs rubbish history.

http://www.goal.com/en/match/atl%C3%A9tico-madrid-vs-leicester-city/2428327
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La Liga only big team is Madrid. Barca became big with Raijkaard. Ateltico de Madrid no history, every other team very little history. EPL - Liverpool, Chelsea, ManU, Nottingham and Aston Villa have all one the CL. Only spanish team to win CL is Madrid and Barcelona. No one else. Please don't compare rich history vs rubbish history.
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I think the entire football discussion is being copied from other forums.  Huh Huh

Juve should get Veratti for the central midfield and Douglas Costa on the wing. They are a top 4 teams and has been for 3-4 years. Keep Dybala no matter what.

http://www.goal.com/en/match/juventus-vs-barcelona/2428330
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Juve should get Veratti for the central midfield and Douglas Costa on the wing. They are a top 4 teams and has been for 3-4 years. Keep Dybala no matter what.
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April 15, 2017, 01:27:50 PM
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Banned. These shitcoin campaigns are getting out of hand with the bots. They never check users posts at any stage of the campaign. Accept anyone and pay for anything.

They don't bother to hire a decent manager to check the post quality of their participant. Their main objective is to just collect funds then run.

I have some question regarding permaban. How to know if a user was already permaban? I saw the profile of the user posted on the first page that commit copy/paste method. But i can't see any note or mark that it was ban. I'm just curious.

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Banned. These shitcoin campaigns are getting out of hand with the bots. They never check users posts at any stage of the campaign. Accept anyone and pay for anything.

They don't bother to hire a decent manager to check the post quality of their participant. Their main objective is to just collect funds then run.

I have some question regarding permaban. How to know if a user was already permaban? I saw the profile of the user posted on the first page that commit copy/paste method. But i can't see any note or mark that it was ban. I'm just curious.

There is no way to find out for sure. If the permaban was applied recently (last few months), then the user's signature will be removed.
You can also check out this thread for recent permabans.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735965.0
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April 15, 2017, 01:35:51 PM
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I think the entire football discussion is being copied from other forums.  Huh Huh

Juve should get Veratti for the central midfield and Douglas Costa on the wing. They are a top 4 teams and has been for 3-4 years. Keep Dybala no matter what.

http://www.goal.com/en/match/juventus-vs-barcelona/2428330
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Juve should get Veratti for the central midfield and Douglas Costa on the wing. They are a top 4 teams and has been for 3-4 years. Keep Dybala no matter what.


There's a lot and there'll be even more if you look into it. Another one:

Dybala put on a scoring clinic today with the 3 - 0 win of Juventus over Barcelona. Barcelona would have a very tough hill to climb if they want to at least advance in the Champions League.
now with dybala, cuadrado and pjanic, juve can survive without a creative MF but juve so badly need a dynamic midfielder and Rincon, sturaru and lemina are just not good enough. matuidi or mousa sissoko or even witsel were all good choices. Verrati is a player to build a whole team around though, too tempting. we need a right back, and a sub for sandro too

http://www.goal.com/en/match/juventus-vs-barcelona/2428330/report

All those sports discussion threads should be locked. Most have either noting at all to do with bitcoin or nothing to do with gambling. There only there in the first place because of campaigns that forced people to make topics in gambling so it just got abused.

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April 15, 2017, 01:38:18 PM
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One more... I agree with locking the sports discussion threads.

If Messi played in Italy, there's no way he would score the goals that he does or be the player he is.  Tactical awareness and defensive capabilities are just too strong in Italy.  Every striker who has played there has said that.

http://www.goal.com/en/match/juventus-vs-barcelona/2428330/report
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If Messi played in Italy, there's no way he would score the goals that he does or be the player he is.  Tactical awareness and defensive capabilities are just too strong in Italy.  Every striker who has played there has said that.
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April 15, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
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Yeah, already got him. All these are doing the same in the same threads one after the other:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=937685 darkseid1199
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=937671 bra4our
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=910018     lEgEndArIUs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898762     lOvE mE forEvEr
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884600 Dahman El_Harrachi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=896630     Bitcoin0916
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900910 President79

Wonder if they're his 'debating' accounts:

If I use 1 computer and 1 IP address there are many accounts that I use, but I never do spam and never break the rules, whether I'll be banned permanently?

thank you sir, I never have idea to selling my accounts. i have multiple accounts only for fun because i like debate

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Yeah, already got him. All these are doing the same in the same threads one after the other:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=937685 darkseid1199
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=937671 bra4our
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=910018     lEgEndArIUs
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898762     lOvE mE forEvEr
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884600 Dahman El_Harrachi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=896630     Bitcoin0916
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900910 President79

Wonder if they're his 'debating' accounts:

If I use 1 computer and 1 IP address there are many accounts that I use, but I never do spam and never break the rules, whether I'll be banned permanently?

thank you sir, I never have idea to selling my accounts. i have multiple accounts only for fun because i like debate

I think the admins should look at his IP and make sure all his accounts are banned.
There may be some which might have escaped, like this one...

If Messi played in Italy, there's no way he would score the goals that he does or be the player he is.  Tactical awareness and defensive capabilities are just too strong in Italy.  Every striker who has played there has said that.

And I just posted that  lEgEndArIUs had copy-pasted the exact same post here.  Roll Eyes
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April 15, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
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I think the admins should look at his IP and make sure all his accounts are banned.
There may be some which might have escaped, like this one...

I've requested it but it rarely ever happens unfortunately.

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You missed one:

The only player from Barca that played well was Umti*i. Everyone else was pathetic. And how many times have we seen Luis Enrique start with some weak starting line-up in a diffficult away game, only for him to have his "Oh sh*t, shouldn't have done that; Iniesta, start warming up" moment? I'm not going to miss him when he's gone - especially his bad judgement and decisions. Oh, and btw, it looks like Real Madrid now have a very good chance of winning La Liga. They could potentially have a 6 point lead if they win their game in hand, and, of course, if things stay the same.

The only player from Barca that played well was Umti*i. Everyone else was pathetic. And how many times have we seen Luis Enrique start with some weak starting line-up in a diffficult away game, only for him to have his "Oh sh*t, shouldn't have done that; Iniesta, start warming up" moment? I'm not going to miss him when he's gone - especially his bad judgement and decisions. Oh, and btw, it looks like Real Madrid now have a very good chance of winning La Liga. They could potentially have a 6 point lead if they win their game in hand, and, of course, if things stay the same.


copy/paste:

Bayern Munich   vs   Real Madrid - Over 2.5 and GG



- Bayern have won 5 of their last 6 matches (UEFA Champions League).   
- There have been over 2.5 goals scored in 5 of Bayern's last 6 games (UEFA Champions League).
- Bayern have scored at least 2 goals in 5 of their last 6 matches (UEFA Champions League).

- There have been over 2.5 goals scored in Real Madrid's last 8 games (UEFA Champions League).
- Real Madrid have scored at least 2 goals in their last 8 matches (UEFA Champions League).

from here:
http://www.thehardtackle.com/round-up/2017/04/11/bayern-munich-vs-real-madrid-probable-lineups-prediction-tactics-and-key-stats/

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