Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare

[commenkiz]

scam.. deposited.. btc confirmed 2 days ago.. still pending

[ACKayaturk]

scam.. deposited.. btc confirmed 2 days ago.. still pending

I'm writing this to all of you who's purchase is pending but BTC is confirmed (I have the same problem right now).

Most of you do not realize, the fee where you are sending BTC is usally deducted from sending amount rather than remaining wallet. Thus, sent BTC amount is below what you have to pay fot that TH/s.

For example (numbers are for example only);

I will purchase 1 BTC for xxTH/s. I'm sending 1 BTC but the fee is 0.001. If your wallet/market taking fee from your sending money, Hashflare will get 0.999 BTC rather than 1 BTC and your purchase will be pending for so long time.

Support fix this issue with tickets but it will taka a long time for them to respond.

Please be carefull with your fees. I had the same mistake and waiting for thjem to respond my ticket and solve this issue by giving true amount of TH/s according to what I sent :/

[commenkiz]

scam.. deposited.. btc confirmed 2 days ago.. still pending

I'm writing this to all of you who's purchase is pending but BTC is confirmed (I have the same problem right now).

Most of you do not realize, the fee where you are sending BTC is usally deducted from sending amount rather than remaining wallet. Thus, sent BTC amount is below what you have to pay fot that TH/s.

For example (numbers are for example only);

I will purchase 1 BTC for xxTH/s. I'm sending 1 BTC but the fee is 0.001. If your wallet/market taking fee from your sending money, Hashflare will get 0.999 BTC rather than 1 BTC and your purchase will be pending for so long time.

Support fix this issue with tickets but it will taka a long time for them to respond.

Please be carefull with your fees. I had the same mistake and waiting for thjem to respond my ticket and solve this issue by giving true amount of TH/s according to what I sent :/

how long u receive a support  ?

[Steffoboy]

scam.. deposited.. btc confirmed 2 days ago.. still pending

I'm writing this to all of you who's purchase is pending but BTC is confirmed (I have the same problem right now).

Most of you do not realize, the fee where you are sending BTC is usally deducted from sending amount rather than remaining wallet. Thus, sent BTC amount is below what you have to pay fot that TH/s.

For example (numbers are for example only);

I will purchase 1 BTC for xxTH/s. I'm sending 1 BTC but the fee is 0.001. If your wallet/market taking fee from your sending money, Hashflare will get 0.999 BTC rather than 1 BTC and your purchase will be pending for so long time.

Support fix this issue with tickets but it will taka a long time for them to respond.

Please be carefull with your fees. I had the same mistake and waiting for thjem to respond my ticket and solve this issue by giving true amount of TH/s according to what I sent :/

Thats a setting in YOUR wallet

[Steffoboy]

Hi Hashflare,

I just purchased my 2TH/s contract worth 300 USD which had already been debited from my credit card. The problem now is I'm unable to verify the verification code from my bank as the code I get from them was wrong and it takes them 3 days to reflect in my online statement. Currently facing with this problem;

"The transaction was not completed because you cancelled the verification. However, you can finish the purchase within 48 hours from the moment of order creation. Within this time you can get the verification code and continue the purchase. If you do not continue with the purchase, it will be cancelled and the order total will be returned to the payment method's account."

Please help me, my ticket number is 361367, and invoice no is 5008070.

the money is not debited, its just reserved by the intermediate company. just wait till u get it back in 7 to 10 days, its held by your bank, then buy bitcoin and buy the hash.

Guys, my payment process has just changed from pending to rejected. Will I be able to get back my debited money? Kinda worried of it now
I got this from Hashflare FAQ ;

After 48 hours if the payment hasn't been confirmed, the order is automatically cancelled

"Rejected" status means, the purchase has been:

declined by the user manually
declined due to failed 3DSecure authentication
declined by the user's issuing bank due to failed authorization

In all of these cases the funds are not reserved on the user's account = What does this mean?

It means the money is still with the bank and u get it back from them! Its in the text.

users account is on Hashflare --- since its cancelled Hasflare won't get the money hence its not at your account at Hashflare.

Hi Steffoboy, I was looking at the wrong transaction. Currently my transaction is still in pending mode, but when I click on it. This what appears;

Error

2006 : An error occurred while processing your payment. Order lifetime has expired. Please return to the shop site and try again.

So it doesn't state rejected nor cancelled, and it's just at the pending stage. (

You can rest assured its cancelled, its 2 hours but since last time i sent the network congestion made me borderline at 1 hour and 50 minute, but then it got confirmed and the order fell through, they will fix the order, but im sure they might have 10 000 unanswered calls for support. I know its not easy, but when you know whats crucial, you pay attention to send bitcoin the same minute you add an order, i stress again forget credit cards and banks, buy bitcoin and dont get short on the fee. more fee more priority, lowest fee, have a happy weekend before its confirmed...

[Rodderman]

what pool is BTCchina?

[commenkiz]

did not receive any reply regarding on my problem

i sent the support around 3 days ago..

usually when will they reply ?

should i create new ticket ?

[Smoke12]

did not receive any reply regarding on my problem

i sent the support around 3 days ago..

usually when will they reply ?

should i create new ticket ?

No, better dont send a new ticket. I'm waiting for a week now and still no response... 2 transactions have the status " Timeout "

[cryptochaser23]

They've replied to my ticket and said it will take 7 working days for the refund to come through. Its been nearly 7 days and still no refund, I will give it an extra week and update it here

[commenkiz]

no one receiving a reply from the support
look like a exit scam.

[elijahmurray]

I bought $50 USD worth yesterday and the transaction cleared with my debit card immediately. This morning, I have BTC showing up in my dashboard! Just bought more using BTC and went through immediately as well, ~5min.

[Crystal11]

Stay away from this scammer website and don't the mistakes a did back in 2016 to deposit money . Even with reinvest mode there is no chance to make a withdraw before 70 GHS expires.
Here is latest history records :

With an average of almost 2000 satoshi daily , minus the maintenance fees , you have no chance to make a withdraw in time if you donated few dollars. Even as a big investor , you will be able to withdraw faster but you won't recover your money. Dont rely on the forecast numbers, that is a lie (i mean it is not based on the fees spent to withdraw so you have to deduct), you can't even make your calculation because you don't know what changes will bring next days.
I even login daily or almost everyday to change the pool percentages so it wont keep dropping but anyways this is useless.
The minimum amount + making the contracts for 1 year only, is created in order to scam people . I have recovered only 16% so far from the amount deposited to buy ghs power few times + the fees.
The forecast revenue table, which by the way those numbers are not real, shows that you wont make 0.0115 btc to withdraw not even in 1 year. According to that forecast table the maximum amount generated in a year is 0.00689 BTC, much far bellow 0.0115 BTC (minimum withdraw). I doubt that in reinvest mode will ever manage to make a withdraw before expiring 70 GHS from 130 (in august 2018).
Proof that is impossible make a withdraw in a year (contract expires) with actual income (impossible to recover your money before your GHS in SHA256 will expire,in this case 70 GHS from 130) :

(plus don't forget about the difficulty increasing and the constant changes on the websites)
So, anyone, don't tell me bullshyt how wonderful is hashflare and is not scamming people. If someone contradicts these proofs i will add to ignore list. You may had a profit but those days are gone years ago.
2 words for the new naive comers on hashflare : STAY AWAY from this website and don't do the mistake to deposit money on this website, better keep your btc in your wallet, you will get more profit by increasing its value.
Even if i manage to make a withdraw (0.0115 BTC minimum ) i wont be able to recover my money because there is a fee.

Edit : Few moments ago, Hashflare has increased minimum withdraw from 0.0106 BTC to 0.0115 BTC.
They will keep modifying numbers so you won't be able to recover your invested bitcoin + the fees spent on transaction sending.

Their latest updates on the website few moments ago (today 8 december 2017) :

Dear users,

Due to the high load on the Bitcoin network and number of unconfirmed transactions we are changing the commission to 0.0015 BTC to reduce the time for withdrawal transactions to be confirmed. This means that the minimum balance to make a withdrawal is now 0.0025 BTC. This is a measure to increase the speed and stability of BTC withdrawals. We would like to remind you that HashFlare is unable to speed up the transactions in the blockchain. Lower commission transactions may take multiple days to be confirmed, since they have a lower priority from the perspective of the miners. Transactions with higher commissions are selected by the miners faster to be processed. Thank you for understanding!

Instead of wasting your money to send on hashflare or genesis mining, better purchase bitcoin and save it or invest in a new graphic card and start mining on your own btc or altcoins, you will earn more from its increasing value.

[oportunis]

They already wrote, once your contract expires you can withdraw even if it's below min. amount...

[Smoke12]

@Crystal

Ive bought 5 TH/s for 700USD week ago. Everyday i make a profit around 10 USD. So over 70 days ill got my investment back. Yes, difficulty, ok let's say over 100 days i get my investment back. It's still a good deal to do cloudmining by hashflare.

https://imgur.com/fCjnO1j

[f4]

After the hashrate-swap at the BCH-Fork the difficulty increase is more linear again now, with +18,11 % at the last change.
For one year mining at hashflare you go through ~ 25 difficulty changes, even with +13 % difficulty increase every two weeks, which would be 18x the difficulty of today by the end of 12 months, you would make a ROI.
But assuming BTC-Price, Network-Hashpower and difficulty to increase at the current rate you would be far away from making a ROI.
Calculating in BTC of course, you ll maybe still make a ROI in USD, due to price change, but in that case it would ve been better to invest directly into BTC and hodl in the firsts place.
So investing into Hashflare is nothing else than speculating on falling or stagnating BTC prices.

[oportunis]

yes we play on BTC stagnating or dropping. Do you really think it will go just up. Now it is nice we got 50% in 1 week or so, but this will not continue forever.

[f4]

Well once the future markets will start shorting Bitcoin on a huge scale in the midtherm, with attracting more institutional investors in the longterm Hashflare could turn out to be pretty profitable.
As long as the japanese don't release their 7 NM Asics anytime soon.

[Steffoboy]

After the hashrate-swap at the BCH-Fork the difficulty increase is more linear again now, with +18,11 % at the last change.
For one year mining at hashflare you go through ~ 25 difficulty changes, even with +13 % difficulty increase every two weeks, which would be 18x the difficulty of today by the end of 12 months, you would make a ROI.
But assuming BTC-Price, Network-Hashpower and difficulty to increase at the current rate you would be far away from making a ROI.
Calculating in BTC of course, you ll maybe still make a ROI in USD, due to price change, but in that case it would ve been better to invest directly into BTC and hodl in the firsts place.
So investing into Hashflare is nothing else than speculating on falling or stagnating BTC prices.

it was 8%, and the rest is, do you want to be a trader or a provider, provider in as building the infrastructure and get a piece of the infrastructure, none is better than the other, its a mentality above all else, what is the mentality?
Investing in hashflare is investing in RISING Bitcoin prices, if you dont understand that, why do you suggest holding Bitcoin?

[f4]

Dec 06 2017   1,590,896,927,258   18.11%   11,388,083,790 GH/s

It is just about the question if mining pays off over the next 12 months.
With a rising BTC-Price it defnitly won't, as the difficutly follows the price.

[Smoke12]

Difficulty must go down since Nicehash is hacked...