Bitcoin Cloud Mining with HashFlare

[Smoke12]

Did they just increased the maintenance fee as well? Can someone confirm? Comparing yesterday and today , the payout decreased and maintenance increased.

It is because of the price decrease of bitcoin, since the price went down, the value of bitcoin taken for maintenance fees increases, when the value of bitcoin goes up, the maintenance fees in bitcoin will decrease

The payout is way lower than the expected and not due to fees at this site way less than expected, I have hash at Hashnest also and its on and above expectations with coinwarz but at hashflair way down. 108 TH/s=0.01360752 Hashflair today before fees, Coinwarz daily estimate @ 108TH/s 0.01770236 BTC / day, Hashnest ~127TH/s Today 0.02071618 BTC before fees!

I am using two pools with hashflair one the block luck is 111.0300% Antpool for the last 3 days, slushpool is 104.72 % last 50 Blocks

Great analysis.

I updated my guide with the new prices of Hashflare and the ROI is in more or less 4.5 months (before was 3 months)... I think that is a good investment yet.
http://conquistarbitcoins.blogspot.com.br/2017/12/how-to-mine-bitcoin-in-cloud.html

So.. about Hashnest... they are good? Paying right? How many time to the ROI? I'm interested try other cloud mining companies.

Hashnest contracts are out of stock? Hashnest site is very messy..

[ACKayaturk]

I suggest you all to watch this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkwHVcRxjw&feature=youtu.be&a=

[f4]

The guy seems pretty competent.
With all the new demand pouring in recently no surprise that they raised prices, it would have been suspicious if they had been able to keep up with it without problems, best time to ask for discounts and spam the support with tickets ;-)

[Crystal11]

Now minimum to withdraw is 0.2023 BTC. You will never recover your money.
Stupid little russian shyts they say again its a test mode >Same "test mode" was when they made 0.01 BTC minimum withdraw.

Damm russian SCAMMERS ! they increase minimum withdraw always so you can't withdraw, with so many excuses with a fake  "test mode". If they were honest they could close the website and pay all of its users even with a profit because they made millions of dollars from ICO polybius, emercoin, hashcoin selling ASICs and god knows how many anonymous hyips .
Stay away from this website, better purchase crypto and save it in your wallet.
SCAM !

[ACKayaturk]

I don't understand how people can make big accusations with knowing nothing. How do you even survive?

[ednet]

Hey guys, i have made a purchase of 300$ in hashpower but i never got the security code in my statement so i never passed that step, the transaction status is "Pending", i have changed my mind and i would like to remove the hold on my $$ in my account how can i manually cancel the transaction from the panel, i can't seem to find any way to do that. The money are still in my account under a hold placed by hashflare so i can't use them >.<.  They say in ToS that if a transaction is pending for 24 hours it will auto-cancel but it didn't it is way over 48 hours now.....fact that is concerning to be honest.

I have issued a ticked with them but i bet they will never answer it.... Is it possible to call my bank and say it was not an authorized payment by me?

Thanks

[Steffoboy]

Hey guys, i have made a purchase of 300$ in hashpower but i never got the security code in my statement so i never passed that step, the transaction status is "Pending", i have changed my mind and i would like to remove the hold on my $$ in my account how can i manually cancel the transaction from the panel, i can't seem to find any way to do that. The money are still in my account under a hold placed by hashflare so i can't use them >.<.  They say in ToS that if a transaction is pending for 24 hours it will auto-cancel but it didn't it is way over 48 hours now.....fact that is concerning to be honest.

I have issued a ticked with them but i bet they will never answer it.... Is it possible to call my bank and say it was not an authorized payment by me?

Thanks

No they wont believe that, money will be kept in escrow by the bank for 7 days, then released to you.

[Steffoboy]

i mean wow, hashrate fell 20%, fee for sending is 55USD, we lost 40% during bitcoin pricedrop, and lost 33% due to higher hash prices, 277 000 unconfirmed transactions. Gladly Bitcoin Cash fell twice the bitcoin, but where is the money going, it seems to USD. next up is a huge increase in hashpower so the difficulty will increase once more. the chinese is bettin against BTC, will they endure? i open some popcorn dammit.

[f4]

As price drops, hashrate follows, just as predicted ;-)
Great times for mining.

[Steffoboy]

As price drops, hashrate follows, just as predicted ;-)
Great times for mining.

no its not, what you see is manipulation to clog up Bitcoin, that will not help. Hashrate will get back from our Chinese friends just to ensure that difficulty will increase, right now u need a 60% decrease in difficulty before u have gotten any help.

[f4]

Money is moving out of BTC, so does hashrate, pretty obvious.
If it really flows all into BCH it maybe won't last long, lets see.

[Steffoboy]

Money is moving out of BTC, so does hashrate, pretty obvious.
If it really flows all into BCH it maybe won't last long, lets see.

it doesn't since Bcash is dropping twice what Bitcoin does, seems altcoins or USD, but im no analyst of such, but seems like low scores for mining ahead, at least if you want USD for it for investment purpose, i mean u cant hardly trade any bitcoin for anything when price for transaction is 55 USD worth, this means sending less than 2000 usd eats any prospect of profits unless its a 10x bagger

[Steffoboy]

since i start tracking hashrate vs the bitcoin price myself, i can read this:

Bitcoin was 16276 Usd and Hashrate was 14800 PH, so drop in price to 15,110 Usd still give 18% loss in Hashrate, means that other purposes than the price is in force, seems to me that around 3 PH of computing power can be utilized for manipulation purpose.

[f4]

As I bet BTC will be > 20k in the long term mining during a bearish period will give you more profit in USD and BTC in the longterm.
We mine BTC, not USD, so you should calculate in BTC.
Once the lightning network works it should finally be possible to sent BTC at a affordable fee, by that time BTC price will skyrocket anyway.

[Steffoboy]

As I bet BTC will be > 20k in the long term mining during a bearish period will give you more profit in USD and BTC in the longterm.
We mine BTC, not USD, so you should calculate in BTC.
Once the lightning network works it should finally be possible to sent BTC at a affordable fee, by that time BTC price will skyrocket anyway.

ye for sure, but the hashpower is paid in dollars...reinvesting in mining for Bitcoin is useless right now, ROI is 10 months

[Wezker]

As I bet BTC will be > 20k in the long term mining during a bearish period will give you more profit in USD and BTC in the longterm.
We mine BTC, not USD, so you should calculate in BTC.
Once the lightning network works it should finally be possible to sent BTC at a affordable fee, by that time BTC price will skyrocket anyway.

What u mean with lightning network ? Sry if its a bad question

[Steffoboy]

As I bet BTC will be > 20k in the long term mining during a bearish period will give you more profit in USD and BTC in the longterm.
We mine BTC, not USD, so you should calculate in BTC.
Once the lightning network works it should finally be possible to sent BTC at a affordable fee, by that time BTC price will skyrocket anyway.

What u mean with lightning network ? Sry if its a bad question

its a proposed change to the Bitcoin Network, that is "proposed" to kick up speed and lower the fees for sending BTC, well, no one knows that just yet.
http://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-lightning-network-is-coming-test-a-transaction-now/

[f4]

https://99bitcoins.com/what-is-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-a-beginners-explanation/

Without the implemention of some kind of solution to manage scalability in an exponential way Bitcoin will be replaced by some other coin.
But defnitly not BCH, as they just scale in a linear way, with an addition in centralisation of mining.

[Steffoboy]

https://99bitcoins.com/what-is-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-a-beginners-explanation/

Without the implemention of some kind of solution to manage scalability in an exponential way Bitcoin will be replaced by some other coin.
But defnitly not BCH, as they just scale in a linear way, with an addition in centralisation of mining.

Ye the typical Communistic approach in China, enslave all, ask questions later...

[f4]

Well I guess state capitalism like in china doesnt have to do much with communism.
Values like liberalism, decentralisation and the abolishment of the state can be found in anarcho-capitalism as well as in marxism.