Devianttwo is a Pedophile AKA Robert Christopher

[cryptodevil]

I screwed up and made a very VERY bad judgement call.

Screwed up? Judgement call? "Hmmmm, should I download those child abuse images?" Is not a 'judgement call' type of question for anybody who isn't a twisted fucked-up excuse for a human being.

You're only sorry you got caught, shitbag.

I screwed up and made a very VERY bad judgement call. I am a God loving man and I always have been.  I know my Lord will protect me through this hard time. Goodbye my friends and my God Bless each and every one of you.

Fuck you and your 'God'. I'm sure you'll quickly find the rest of the child-abusing scumbags huddled in the prison yard in their 'prayer circle', roundly declaring themselves 'healed' of the 'sin' and no longer under the control of 'satan', because you lot don't exactly do intellectual honesty, which is why you love yourself so much Gawd. You get to play-pretend *real* fucking hard and convince yourselves that Gawd has forgiven you and how you're not going to make the same 'mistake' in future, again. Each time.

Aha, I see 'Swordsoffreedom' is flying that bullshit 'Getting off on abusing children is just the same as being Gay' twisted 'justification'. Please explain how two grown adults having consensual sex, irrespective of their gender, is *anything* like an adult abusing his position of power to betray children for his selfish sexual gratification.

I'm eager to hear your sound explanation for why your buddy, the pedophile, is just being unfairly treated, you know, what with how teh gheys trample on your right to hate that they demand to be treated as equal human beings.

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[turvarya]

I screwed up and made a very VERY bad judgement call.

Screwed up? Judgement call? "Hmmmm, should I download those child abuse images?" Is not a 'judgement call' type of question for anybody who isn't a twisted fucked-up excuse for a human being.

You're only sorry you got caught, shitbag.

I screwed up and made a very VERY bad judgement call. I am a God loving man and I always have been.  I know my Lord will protect me through this hard time. Goodbye my friends and my God Bless each and every one of you.

Fuck you and your 'God'. I'm sure you'll quickly find the rest of the child-abusing scumbags huddled in the prison yard in their 'prayer circle', roundly declaring themselves 'healed' of the 'sin' and no longer under the control of 'satan', because you lot don't exactly do intellectual honesty, which is why you love yourself so much Gawd. You get to play-pretend *real* fucking hard and convince yourselves that Gawd has forgiven you and how you're not going to make the same 'mistake' in future, again. Each time.

Aha, I see 'Swordsoffreedom' is flying that bullshit 'Getting off on abusing children is just the same as being Gay' twisted 'justification'. Please explain how two grown adults having consensual sex, irrespective of their gender, is *anything* like an adult abusing his position of power to betray children for his selfish sexual gratification.

I'm eager to hear your sound explanation for why your buddy, the pedophile, is just being unfairly treated, you know, what with how teh gheys trample on your right to hate that they demand to be treated as equal human beings.

There is a big difference between abusing children and looking at pictures of (abused?) children.
And yes, I know the ramification of "without demand there wouldn't be supply" etc., but it is still not the same. So, if you want to argue, argue about the crime he actually committed.

[cryptodevil]

There is a big difference between abusing children and looking at pictures of (abused?) children.

No. No there isn't. You don't get off on images of child abuse without sharing the guilt of the gross betrayal pictured within.

You might not be to blame for the dysfunctional sexual urge you have as a pedophile, I do get that it isn't a choice to feel like that, but you are responsible for ANYTHING you do to indulge that urge external to your own brain. That *is* the choice pedophiles make, to act on their urges, which are toxic and harmful to wider society as well as the child.

So, no, there is no playing it down or trying to minimise it. You can think whatever thoughts you like, what you can't do is externalise them in any way whatsoever. You don't have that right as a pedophile because your sexual predilections are damaging to others.

[turvarya]

There is a big difference between abusing children and looking at pictures of (abused?) children.

No. No there isn't. You don't get off on images of child abuse without sharing the guilt of the gross betrayal pictured within.

You might not be to blame for the dysfunctional sexual urge you have as a pedophile, I do get that it isn't a choice to feel like that, but you are responsible for ANYTHING you do to indulge that urge external to your own brain. That *is* the choice pedophiles make, to act on their urges, which are toxic and harmful to wider society as well as the child.

So, no, there is no playing it down or trying to minimise it. You can think whatever thoughts you like, what you can't do is externalise them in any way whatsoever. You don't have that right as a pedophile because your sexual predilections are damaging to others.

So, looking at a picture of someone robbing a bank is the same as robbing the bank your self?

You guys are retarded and have no actual sense of justice. I am out of this thread, but I am still looking forward to the thread Brad Harrison is making about me, since in his logic I have to be a pedophile, if I don't have the moral compass of someone living in the Wild West.

[pawel7777]

That is disgusting. There is no room in this world for those people.

Maybe I'm going a bit off topic here but...
People don't choose what they're attracted to. Gay people don't choose to be gay and paedophiles don't choose to be paedophiles.
I understand the hate, but we shouldn't bash him too much.

If you can't find a way to live without abusing children (or watching others do it) you can always chose to kill yourself. Period.

[cryptodevil]

So, looking at a picture of someone robbing a bank is the same as robbing the bank your self?

Either you're an idiot or you are intentionally conflating two entirely disparate crimes. One involves getting sexually aroused abusing children, the other is stealing money from a business entity.

If you become sexually aroused looking at images somebody else took to get themselves sexually aroused then you are clearly as culpable as they are when it comes to the gross betrayal of the child or children in the images.

If you look at a picture of somebody robbing a bank you get what, exactly? Part of a news story, that's all.

[Brad Harrison]

Not even worth going back and forth with an idiot such as turvarya

[Falconer]

I cant find any connection between this thread with bitcoin discussion, except the fact that he is a part of us literally in this forum. Most of it is the society issue, so Political and Society is a right section for this thread. But anyway, pedophile is really a bad deed, its same with a rapists which the victim is children. I'm not sure God could forgive a pedophile.

[Quantus]

Are we talking 15-17 year olds or what?

[bennybong]

I hate to break it to you Robert... But 'your lord' will not help you. You downloaded, watched & stored said Child pornography, you can't justify that in any meaningful way. Have fun in prison.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

No, the difference is that gays don't have 'victims'. Pedophiles do. This shouldnt be hard to understand

Good post.
No forgiveness as far as I'm concerned, pedophiles are the lowest form of human. Disgusting individuals.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I screwed up and made a very VERY bad judgement call.

Screwed up? Judgement call? "Hmmmm, should I download those child abuse images?" Is not a 'judgement call' type of question for anybody who isn't a twisted fucked-up excuse for a human being.

You're only sorry you got caught, shitbag.

I screwed up and made a very VERY bad judgement call. I am a God loving man and I always have been.  I know my Lord will protect me through this hard time. Goodbye my friends and my God Bless each and every one of you.

Fuck you and your 'God'. I'm sure you'll quickly find the rest of the child-abusing scumbags huddled in the prison yard in their 'prayer circle', roundly declaring themselves 'healed' of the 'sin' and no longer under the control of 'satan', because you lot don't exactly do intellectual honesty, which is why you love yourself so much Gawd. You get to play-pretend *real* fucking hard and convince yourselves that Gawd has forgiven you and how you're not going to make the same 'mistake' in future, again. Each time.

Aha, I see 'Swordsoffreedom' is flying that bullshit 'Getting off on abusing children is just the same as being Gay' twisted 'justification'. Please explain how two grown adults having consensual sex, irrespective of their gender, is *anything* like an adult abusing his position of power to betray children for his selfish sexual gratification.

I'm eager to hear your sound explanation for why your buddy, the pedophile, is just being unfairly treated, you know, what with how teh gheys trample on your right to hate that they demand to be treated as equal human beings.

There is a big difference between abusing children and looking at pictures of (abused?) children.
And yes, I know the ramification of "without demand there wouldn't be supply" etc., but it is still not the same. So, if you want to argue, argue about the crime he actually committed.

Heh I was waiting for that troll bait
IT's CALLED NAMBLA
They both started in this together its just that one got scaled up and the other faction had to abandon their roots and switch to pure condemnation for them.
I'll even link it up for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association
http://www.voiceofrevolution.com/2011/11/15/the-pedophile-elephant-in-the-gay-activist-closet/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/03/28/_be_they_gays_be_they_nambla_be_they_people_who_believe_in_beastiality.html

Didn't say it was = just saying that assaulting the pillars of society is annoying all around we could have a whole argument on the definition of produced/drawn/voyeur/3d/jailbait/non-nude/models etc and the legal stances on each but that is not what a Scam accusation thread is for.

CARSON: Well, my thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It's a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality. It doesn't matter what they are. They don't get to change the definition. So it's not something that is against gays, it's against anybody who wants to come along and change the fundamental definitions of pillars of society. It has significant ramifications.

(Love who they want is the Gay motto just poking at the foundations of the LGBT/Gay Rights movement and throwing it under a scrutiny bus)
http://jimdaly.focusonthefamily.com/shouldnt-people-be-allowed-to-love-who-they-want/

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Well with modern society and its liberalization of the gay community despite vast protest for their lifestyle and the act of sodomy in general, I can see that point of view of being a bit light being fair as I will equate the dang two things as equal (lol off topic).
Only one has the pocketbook while the others have no collective organization.

No, the difference is that gays don't have 'victims'. Pedophiles do. This shouldnt be hard to understand

Fair enough was just poking a bit at cryptodevil there, but to address your other point their are victims in that society as a whole has to adopt policies that may be unfair towards those whose opinions are in disagreement, why else would their be debates about a Christian not being able to bake cakes and closing his shop because of gay rights, educational reform in Ontario forcing children to learn about LGBT issues without proper discussion from parents first, or arresting individuals for not providing marriage licenses in Kentucky to LGBT couples based on personal and state beliefs just to name a few not even getting into adoptions.

Another issue would be the Bus Driver who refused to drive a LGBT themed Calgary Transit bus because it interfered with his own personal beliefs on this issue, not that he was not willing to provide the service but he did condone the theming of the bus itself and then having his life and job sabotaged by those who are angry that he voiced a contrary opinion to this issue.
http://calgaryherald.com/news/traffic/ride-with-pride-calgary-transit-unveils-rainbow-bus-for-pride-parade
https://www.advocate.com/religion/2015/09/03/canadian-bus-driver-refuses-work-citing-radical-sexual-movement
"Employees have rights too, including the right to religious views that seem objectionable and difficult to fathom."

(The difference here between the other cases is that it was the transit authority that authorized and promoted this as an independent impartial public service the LGBT community did pay for the advertising but unlike lets say a divorce billboard on the side of a bus) the bus was rainbow colored saying it is a public duty when a group forces it on the employee is not equivalent in society to having a choice in the matter and being prosecuted for it.

A significant portion of transit customers, and perhaps drivers, would undoubtedly feel uncomfortable on this bus. This might be a feel-good experience for some but in reality anyone not supportive of the pride movement is being made to feel excluded by a city agency they pay taxes for. If there is any place where statements like this should have no place it is on public services.

The victims are diverse but they are not as directly attributable to a single cause as that between a pedo and a kid, he-he if people wanted to start a firestorm then we would need to talk about consent and what can be defined as consent, as well as levels of love and different types of relationships to define what is healthy historical precedents etc but that would bring in feminist arguments about victimization what does it mean to be a victim and what would be considered a healthy relationship, ha-ha sorry just having a bit of fun this threads pretty amusing.

To sum it up there is a point where it just becomes incendiary, where the LGBT community is just trying to create controversy to victimize themselves so when you say there are no victims I disagree there are victims it's just not as clearly connected and that shouldn't be hard to understand.
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As an aside how is this a Scam Accusation again ?
Move to Off-Topic , sum it up No Scam was performed here however a persons character was put into question and while that does qualify as a reason for people to avoid trading with the person no money was stolen nor was their any intent to steal Bitcoin that I can see.

[bennybong]

Devianttwo: Delete your account and don't ever come back to this community again, and I mean that in the harshest way possible. You filthy motherfucker (or should I say childfucker) I don't care for your reasoning. Bringing god into any debate is just as bad as the whole 'comparing to hilter' argument... It means fuck all so just fuck off. This god you speak of is just a figment of imagination in your clearly already fucked up head. NO ONE WILL FORGIVE YOU.

Good luck explaining 'yes I am a convicted paedophile... but it was an error of judgement and I have asked for forgiveness, from an imaginary god no less!' to anyone you meet in the future. The only people you could even begin to ask for forgiveness are the poor innocent children you fucking masturbated to while they were getting raped... NOW FUCKING READ THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL YOU START TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF IT YOU SICK FUCK!!!!

/rant

[teukon]

Are we talking 15-17 year olds or what?

Good question.  All I've seen so far is "23 counts of Possession of Child Pornography."

What does "Child Pornography" mean in this context?

Section 2256 of Title 18, United States Code, defines child pornography as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (someone under 18 years of age).  Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor.  Undeveloped film, undeveloped videotape, and electronically stored data that can be converted into a visual image of child pornography are also deemed illegal visual depictions under federal law.

Notably, the legal definition of sexually explicit conduct does not require that an image depict a child engaging in sexual activity.  A picture of a naked child may constitute illegal child pornography if it is sufficiently sexually suggestive.  Additionally, the age of consent for sexual activity in a given state is irrelevant; any depiction of a minor under 18 years of age engaging in sexually explicit conduct is illegal.

(emphasis mine)

The contraband could well be a collection of sexually suggestive images of postpubescents.  Indeed, given no further information, I consider this likely.

[BayAreaCoins]

Dave Chappelle - How old is 15 really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjsufO9hZwo

[Tomatocage]

Unless of course it's a hot female teacher who has sex with her 16yo male student. Then it's all "victim, my ass!" or "Where were teachers like that when *I* was in school???"

[Sourgummies]

Unless of course it's a hot female teacher who has sex with her 16yo male student. Then it's all "victim, my ass!" or "Where were teachers like that when *I* was in school???"

Dammit I know that one,it will come to me. I even have the voice in my head!!! Ugh.. 

[Swordsoffreedom]

Unless of course it's a hot female teacher who has sex with her 16yo male student. Then it's all "victim, my ass!" or "Where were teachers like that when *I* was in school???"

We would all have loved to be victimized by a hot female teacher when we were a student.
But of course that's defining the defintion of a victim 

[BitcoinEXpress]

And to the one who said "I Suddenly found Jesus" Wrong son. Ive been a Jesus loving man for my entire life.  I made a bad choice and I will pay for what I did.  I am not here to make it sound like what I did isn't wrong. I'm not here to support anyone. I'm not here to ask for your forgiveness. I am here because I chose to respond.

That would be me. Typical good Christian, diddle to child porn and claim to love Jesus.

If you don't like that then to bad.  I'm not here to please you.

I agree you're not here to please anyone, however those children were there in the CP to please you.

Downloading, looking at and storing child porn makes you a pedophile no matter what state of denial you're in.

If you had any sense of decency you would off yourself as pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated.


~BCX~

[ebliever]

I understand some may have been hurt or may have loved ones who have been tragically hurt by molestation or pornography. Nonetheless, that is not a warrant to go on an exercise of self-righteous judgmentalism, much less trying to push someone to commit suicide. Think about it, that's as sick as anything a pornographer could do. Who are you to say, without authority or knowledge, that God won't forgive, can't forgive, or that sinners such as those who have viewed pornography cannot redeem themselves? You wage war against God when you blasphemously put yourself in His place and teach contrary to His word, sinning to the point of murderous words with your hate.

The creator of the universe is both sufficiently powerful and sufficiently loving to forgive any sin, including those even worse than we are talking about here. Those who stand in their own self-righteousness and imagine themselves worthy will find themselves damned in the end, while those of us who know we are sinners and repent have the promise of God's forgiveness. (And no, I'm not saying I have the same sins as devianttwo; nor I expect does turvarya or others maligned here by the pitchfork vigilantes.)

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. ...

Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.

(Romans 3:23-29)