[WTB] BTC with verified PayPal for +-$100

[Patejl]

This bounty still up, you should offer it to Paypalbusters to open his side of the records.

If he is what you claim to be I don't think he will provide his side of the proofs, and yup he hasn't provided any proofs to confirm his side of the story.

Tried to get hold of him today but I can assume that he has left, for good.

Actually he hasn't just saw he is online right now, I'll try PMing if it works.
Bad luck if you got scammed though, but this is a lesson for you as well, never deal without an escrow.

[V.Lace]

He just sent me an email lol



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Hello,
I can do that exchange for you, i`m willing to offer 0,6089 for your 155$ paypal.
We can use escrow and split the escrow fees or you can go first as family and friends.

Let me know if you are interested, have a good day!

paypalbusters .LLC
www.paypalbusters.com

[Patejl]

ok V.Lace ...and?
We will both cover the escrow fees and everything should be fine i think...fair right?


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I dont have what to talk with RustyNomad anymore, he scammed me, i losed my primary paypal with his money in it now he say the he will DOX me and do gov complains agains me etc, in any case i shared with him my id documents but in any case he can do what he want and report me where he want, i didnt taked the money out from there, i didnt spended 1 penny from his balance, the money are in the closed paypal account.

You haven't provided any proof except an image which when examined was seemed as incorrect, the transaction details didnt match or something, and as monbux has already said paypal didn't close accounts because of rustynomad not using the account for over an year, and I believe his word for it, and paypal can't delete your account, you can do that only by yourself. You my friend, seem like a scammer to me.And as for them payment I stick to monbux and OP here, as your account got deleted after Op sent his payment, anything after he sends the payment is not his problem. And if paypal has deleted your account it is probably because of the blackhat methods you use not because of OP , you should send the payment to the OP and close it here.
Or provide more proof to a trusted escrow, for ex. monbux.

[Patejl]

can you let me know what "blackhat" methods i used my paypal if you say that?
I dont send him the bitcoins because i dont have his money and i also dont have my account anymore.

Just had a look at your website and you seem to be selling all kinds of blackhat methods someone can use against paypal, fake VCC fake identity , selectable from any country. I wouldn't be surprised if paypal found about this and decided to delete your account for good.
And the actual problem occurred after you got the payment, and it was your account that got deleted, which you should take full responsibilty for as it has been proven that OP had nothing to do with it, at most it might have gotten your account froze.
And you are ignoring my question about proofs , and confirmation from a trusted escrow it seems, if you keep ignoring these requests, I would request people from default trust to tag you as a scammer or you have to give a reason why should you not be tagged as a scammer.

[RustyNomad]

can you let me know what "blackhat" methods i used my paypal if you say that?
I dont send him the bitcoins because i dont have his money and i also dont have my account anymore.

We will see in a day or two. Paypal has started an investigation into the transaction as I've asked for proof on whether the funds were delivered as per the transaction, that it has not been reversed, that it is not in their [i.e. Paypal's] possession and that it is either still in Paypalbusters account, or another account he possibly moved it to and or cashed out.

I've offered Paypalbusters my assistance in getting this sorted out this morning. If he does not have the funds [which I do not believe] it means that Paypal has it as I do not have it as Mobux already confirmed, my payments are cleared and completed and not returned. I've asked that he send me copies of his communications with Paypal but none has been forthcoming leading me only to believe that there were none and there will never be as he closed the account himself. There was never any problem with that account.

V.Lance, run for the hills buddy, you are about to be taken for a ride.


Edit: Apparently Paypal has contacted you [Paypalsbuster] for details on the transaction, have you responded to them?

[Patejl]

Hello jasmine ashton,


Recently, PayPal received a notification from a user regarding unauthorized access to his PayPal account. As a result, one of the payments credited to your PayPal account has been placed in a temporary hold while we investigate the claim.  PayPal constantly monitors transactions for unauthorized use of accounts in order to maintain the safety of our users.

The details of this transaction are as follows:


Transaction Date: Sep 4, 2015
Transaction Amount: $94.77 USD
Buyer's Email: ymasoza@gmail.com



This is everything i received, you filled a unauthorised transaction that it`s false and nothing more...
also i receive only the emails, i cant figure out how to acces the account

Anyone can fake that text, I don't think it can be regarded as a proof, I would like a trusted member's opinion on this rather than some text that looks like its been edited.

[Patejl]

take this:)

In that cas I would advise you to put the funds in an escrow first and after paypal's investigation has been done on the matter it would be decided who'se fault it was in closing of your account and if it was your own the escrow will forward the payment to OP and if it was OP's fault the escrow amount will be returned to you.
If this was not your fault I will request QS to remove the neg. rep from your account regarding the transaction but it depends on him if he remove it, and even if he does he may tag you for using blackhat methods.
Right now I don't think anyone will trade with you with that negative feedback. This is the solution I offer.

[Patejl]

first time he was unable to send me the money, after that i received them in 21 days hold, after that my paypal account get closed after that i received a email of a unauthorised payment filled by him

Ok but now you seem to be more on the guilty side, only a investigation from paypal's side will finally solve this matter.

.also he gived me negative feedback for scamming and..that wasn`t proved yet

He wasn't the one who gave you a negative feedback, it was QS( No.1 Scambuster in bcttalk), see the feedback for more details.

i didn`t scammed that fucking nigga...

Calm down now there, there is no need for any offensive language.

Idk what`s in your head man, why i should give him my money?

It will not be given to him but an escrow, so you can't later just vanish when the matter has been cleared.

i losed him money and also my paypal account Smiley i dont send him bitcoins for nothing.

Well he did send you the money, and if it was your own fault which got your account closed(which will be discovered , if it so , from paypal's investigation) then he isn't responsible for it.

P.S: what about this?

Edit: Apparently Paypal has contacted you [Paypalsbuster] for details on the transaction, have you responded to them?

[RustyNomad]

Paypalbusters,

That is good news then for both of us.

Yes I did contact them about the transaction but that was an hour after your account was closed and I had no feedback from you. I thus phoned them to ask whether the transaction could be stopped or not but they told me it could not be done and that the transaction was done and dusted - NOTE: I did not log an investigation until this morning.

If they however did stop it as you indicate from those posts then we need to put our information together and contact Paypal together so that they can release the funds to you as intended and we conclude the transaction and or we reverse everything and call it a day, I'll restore your trust and apologize formally to you.

That's why I have been asking for you to let me know who you spoke to. As I said right from the start, I'm more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are not communicating with me as asked so that we can get this sorted.

Can you please forward those emails to me. I will then get one off to Paypal asking for the funds to be released to you and explaining everything to them. I will copy you on the mail I send to them.

[RustyNomad]

Paypalbusters

I suggest the following resolution.

1) You send the required bitcoin to Mobux to be held by him in escrow,
2) You forward me those emails from Paypal so that I can attach it to my mail as well as get any reference numbers etc...
3) As soon as Mobux confirms the bitcoin is in escrow I will send a detailed email to Paypal and Mobux and cc you on it explaining the events and asking for the funds to be released to you, do you have another Paypal account?, if not Paypal will have to reversed it to me. We can then discuss whether we conclude the transaction either by me sending it to Mobux or we then just cancel the transaction.
4) If I do not get the email off to Paypal today, which will be confirmed by Mobux, then he releases the bitcoin back to you and he's then welcome to flag me with negative trust,
5) If Paypal decides to reverse the transaction Mobux releases the bitcoin back to you unless we agree to complete the transaction,

Your feedback on this?  

[RustyNomad]

if monbux wants i can give him the email id and pw after i delete my personal emails and also the paypal with pw and he can check everything

Only saw this post now, so you still have your paypal account then, thought it was deleted.

In any case, see my suggestion to a resolution above.

[RustyNomad]

it`s deleted, but i will give him the email and pw to confirm that

Have you read my proposal above?

I would like to get this matter resolved as soon as possible and I'm sure so do you.

[RustyNomad]

sure

Okay so then the next step will be to decide whether we go ahead with the transaction and get it resolved. If so then we need to follow the steps in part A below. If we decide not to go ahead with the transaction then we need to follow the steps in part B below.

A
1) Speak to Mobux to get the bitcoins to him in escrow. I will be responsible for any escrow fees.
2) Send me all the relevant emails from paypal especially ones with reference numbers etc.. so I can include those in my mail.
3) Provide me with a paypal address where the funds must be released to by paypal. If you no longer have a paypal account could you perhaps create one again or know somebody who will accept the funds for you or perhaps Mobux can escrow that as well for you (I will cover the cost of that as well).
4) I get the mail setup and send it out to paypal and everybody involved
5) We wait.....

B
1) Reply to the email Paypal sent you in regards to the transaction stating that you agree to it being reversed and sent back to my account. They will not do the reversal unless you agree to this.
2) We call it a day and we each go our own way

[BtcCrazy1]

You contacted PayPal an hour after you sent asking if they could stop a transaction? But you didn't actually ask them to stop that actual transaction? Also please stop saying that they can't stop transactions they can stop friends to family and purchases all the time especially if you call and say you had an unauthorized login to your account.

PayPalbuster, if you would like you can send me the BTC if you trust me and I will escrow it. I also have a way to make sure to see if there was an actual claim filed. If you send me the BTC, I will move the BTC into a different escrow for you I will just hold the responsibility. This is I'm still sorry to say tho in most cases if everyone wants to believe PayPal and that's just what we take from rusty then you are going to loose. PayPal always takes the side of the buyer and not the seller I've had this problem in the beginning with PayPal I took a 500$ loss so I know first hand.

[BtcCrazy1]

I'm Just for warning you Rusty, if you say that PayPal can't reverse a transaction again I will bang you with NEGATIVE feedback. This is not true at all they can always reverse I will bang you with the negative feedback and that you are stating that PayPal funds are not reversible..

[RustyNomad]

I'm Just for warning you Rusty, if you say that PayPal can't reverse a transaction again I will bang you with NEGATIVE feedback. This is not true at all they can always reverse I will bang you with the negative feedback and that you are stating that PayPal funds are not reversible..

Let me clarify, I was asked by Paypal whether I sent the transaction which I confirmed. That's why they would not reverse it as it was not sent by an unauthorised person.

So yes you are right, Paypal can be reversed but in my case where I stated that I made the transaction they will not.

[BtcCrazy1]

If you clarified to PayPal that you did send it they would not put a 21 day hold on it. Even if he was trying to blackhat the situation the money still would have been released at this point I would say you reverse your payment and paypalbuster shouldn't send the BTC and you both go your separate ways..

[emidius]

Could some one please send us as much information as possible about this scammer. Who ever it is, is not as anonymous as they think. PM me or send us an email at scam-watch@cyberservices.com .


BitCoin Scam Watch and Fraud Investigations
http://scam-watch.bitcoinheaven.net/

[RustyNomad]

Could some one please send us as much information as possible about this scammer. Who ever it is, is not as anonymous as they think. PM me or send us an email at scam-watch@cyberservices.com .


BitCoin Scam Watch and Fraud Investigations
http://scam-watch.bitcoinheaven.net/

The matter has not been settled and or decided yet.

Just for interest, do you want the information for investigation purposes and or to publish?

[Quickseller]

Unless paypalbusters is willing to put the entire amount of BTC into escrow immediately then he is 100% scamming you. It takes time to be able to sufficiently cash out from stolen PayPal funds in whatever ways the PayPal scammers do this, and the longer you wait to dispute the transaction, the greater the chances are that they will be able to successfully cash out.

Unlike scammers that steal your bitcoin, you will hear from a PayPal scammer after they take your money, the reason being that they will try to delay you from realizing that you are being scammed. If they can delay you for long enough then they will be able to get some percentage of the amount they stole from you in some cash-like value. Time is of the essence, you should file a dispute yesterday.