Quickseller escrowing for himself

[Quickseller]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

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[Quickseller]

LAMO on the second trust rating dude. I think the rating speaks pretty loudly.

[Inkvor]

why is QS escrowing himself ...to save 0.003 escrow fees ?? i dont think so that he cares for those cents ...

the other reason is just to scam ...only left possibility

bad move QS

[jonald_fyookball]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

[tspacepilot]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone.

I don't know what you mean by "colluding" here.  Have I talked with others about your negative behaviors towards me, sure.  Did I get any "tip" that you were panthers52, nope?  You showed your own hand on that.

Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Cool.  So, maybe you'll agree it's best to leave your baseless speculation out of it.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

Um, yes.  But do you know the real reason why I decline your "request"?  It's because it's far too cheap.  You proving your "allegations" is clearly worth hundreds of BTC, but I just can't afford to pay for it.  If you decide to do it for free, then sweet!

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

@Jonald, you should request for him to pay you 5BTC if he's bluffing.  If he fails to take you up on your request, you must be wrong.

[achow101]

This is a long thread, and I may have missed something, but did anyone figure out whether Quickseller had suggested to use himself as an escrow or did the other person select Quickseller. I can understand that he wouldn't want to reveal his alt if someone else chose him as escrow and just went along with it, but if he was the one that said they should use Quickseller, I think that is very shady and there isn't any logical reason to do that when there are many other far more reputable escrows other than Quickseller.

[Quickseller]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

No. I'm not bluffing.

[redsn0w]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

No. I'm not bluffing.

Nah, you are bluffing and this is also another demonstration :


 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175806.0



You are so pathetic, and this is not an insult (sorry if you are thinking the contrary).

[tspacepilot]

This is a long thread, and I may have missed something, but did anyone figure out whether Quickseller had suggested to use himself as an escrow or did the other person select Quickseller. I can understand that he wouldn't want to reveal his alt if someone else chose him as escrow and just went along with it, but if he was the one that said they should use Quickseller, I think that is very shady and there isn't any logical reason to do that when there are many other far more reputable escrows other than Quickseller.

There's this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.msg12345881#msg12345881

[Quickseller]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

No. I'm not bluffing.

Nah, you are bluffing and this is also another demonstration :


 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175806.0

Believe what you wish. There is a price for everything and I have stated what mine is for this (both the BTC and tsp leaving).

[achow101]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

No. I'm not bluffing.

Then why don't you just post the evidence and explain how you came to those conclusions? Why do you demand a payment for that? If you already came to those conclusions then you have already spent the time researching that and that time will still have been wasted and essentially for nothing if no one agrees to pay you.

[redsn0w]

I was referring specifically about you colluding with someone. Everything else is impossible to prove either way.

Should I take you saying that you are "done with this flame war" as you declining my request (that you put 5BTC into escrow that would be due me and you leave forever if I can prove my claim)?

If he declines, and you fail to prove he was colluding, does that mean you were bluffing?

No. I'm not bluffing.

Nah, you are bluffing and this is also another demonstration :


 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1175806.0

Believe what you wish. There is a price for everything and I have stated what mine is for this (both the BTC and tsp leaving).

Yes of course .... the problem here is that you were escrowing for yourself without the use of a third party neutral and real escrow. It's a fact not an opinion.

[tspacepilot]

Then why don't you just post the evidence and explain how you came to those conclusions? Why do you demand a payment for that? If you already came to those conclusions then you have already spent the time researching that and that time will still have been wasted and essentially for nothing if no one agrees to pay you.

It's because it's trolling nonsense.  It's patentely ridiculous.  No one is going pay QS to "post proof" that I "colluded" to find his alt.  Why would they?  We already know that it's his alt.  What's the relevance?  Qs is currently doing his best to turn a thread about how he escrowed for himself into something else.  So far in this thread he's hemmed and hawed for 15 pages, then faked a ban, then flipped out and started calling people idiots, then tried to apologize to some of those people, then accused TC and Badbear, then said sorry to badbear, then said he was going to leave the community (that didn't last long), and today he's back slinging nonsense at redsn0w and trying to "offer" for us to pay him some 1200USD in order to go on further about his own superiority.  Let's not take the deal guys!

[onemorexmr]

Then why don't you just post the evidence and explain how you came to those conclusions? Why do you demand a payment for that? If you already came to those conclusions then you have already spent the time researching that and that time will still have been wasted and essentially for nothing if no one agrees to pay you.

It's because it's trolling nonsense.  No one is going pay QS to "post proof" that I "colluded" to find his alt.  Why would they?  We already know that it's his alt.  What's the relevance?  Qs is currently doing his best to turn a thread about how he escrowed for himself into something else.  So far in this thread he's hemmed and hawed for 15 pages, then faked a ban, then flipped out and started calling people idiots, then tried to apologize to some of those people, then accused TC and Badbear, then said sorry to badbear, then said he was going to leave the community (that didn't last long), and today he's back slinging nonsense at redsn0w and trying to "offer" for us to pay him money to go on further about his own superiority. 

We already know that he's very superior over us, but that doesn't mean we have to talk about it on every thread! 

IMHO
he wants to come back in a few months (at least he told so) and hopes that you are no longer here then (or at least he can have a real accusation against you for not leaving)

if this thread gets derailed he profits from it... because in a few months he may get added back to defaulttrust (because people like TC dont think escrowing for himself is bad) and he can continue as usual....

[Quickseller]

I am owed some money that I am waiting to collect then I am taking an extended break.

I am not trolling.

[bitcoin1992]

I am owed some money that I am waiting to collect then I am taking an extended break.

I am not trolling.

Edit: if an admin wanted to know how I know then I would share my information privately to them. Other then that my price is above.

So what are your plans next? Buy an alt account or farm one, or just use your another alt to bust a few scams, buy a few trust from really trusted people to get trust rating, show that you are very trusted and start providing escrow services again?

[siameze]

Then why don't you just post the evidence and explain how you came to those conclusions? Why do you demand a payment for that? If you already came to those conclusions then you have already spent the time researching that and that time will still have been wasted and essentially for nothing if no one agrees to pay you.

It's because it's trolling nonsense.  It's patentely ridiculous.  No one is going pay QS to "post proof" that I "colluded" to find his alt.  Why would they?  We already know that it's his alt.  What's the relevance?  Qs is currently doing his best to turn a thread about how he escrowed for himself into something else.  So far in this thread he's hemmed and hawed for 15 pages, then faked a ban, then flipped out and started calling people idiots, then tried to apologize to some of those people, then accused TC and Badbear, then said sorry to badbear, then said he was going to leave the community (that didn't last long), and today he's back slinging nonsense at redsn0w and trying to "offer" for us to pay him some 1200USD in order to go on further about his own superiority.  Let's not take the deal guys!

I dunno man, 5BTC can buy a lot of popcorn.  I think your point is pretty well made, however.

[eneilwex]

I am owed some money that I am waiting to collect then I am taking an extended break.

I am not trolling.

Dude, take a break. You really need it. It must be hectic, I sense a meltdown coming. Quietly collect whatever is owed you and go do other fun things outside this forum. Party hard, get drunk, get laid, go on a trek. Just time out. Reflect on things. A little introspection wont hurt. Then maybe, just maybe you will understand why almost everyone thinks self escrowing is wrong. And when/if you do see the light, It will make you a better person/escrower.

[Cxinbolen]

I am owed some money that I am waiting to collect then I am taking an extended break.

I am not trolling.

Dude, take a break. You really need it. It must be hectic, I sense a meltdown coming. Quietly collect whatever is owed you and go do other fun things outside this forum. Party hard, get drunk, get laid, go on a trek. Just time out. Reflect on things. A little introspection wont hurt. Then maybe, just maybe you will understand why almost everyone thinks self escrowing is wrong. And when/if you do see the light, It will make you a better person/escrower.

I think this is the best advice.

@QS; please, read this. I think you over-exerted yourself on the forum recently, and thus got a bit stressed out. Go and take a break, do some mountain climbing, I don't know. Just take a well-deserved break and come back.

[Keyser Soze]

You can't call it escrow if there is no third party involved. Anyone who "escrows" for themselves under an alt is intentionally being deceitful to the other party involved.