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September 06, 2015, 11:58:56 AM
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The sad part is Blazr is staking his reputation on someone who has been caught being escrow for self. If he is now supporting that kind of action too then nothing more needs to be said.

I can only be myself and state my opinion. I won't silence myself just because my reputation is at stake. I don't care about my reputation so much, I know myself that I am a reputable person and I don't care what other people think. I got the rep that I have by being myself and will continue to do that.

Same here. Smiley



Caveat Emptor.

Caveat Emptor? really? You expect the person using the escrow to check whether the escrow and the seller is not the same person? Huh
Escrow is supposed to be independent. Did you know that?
If material things are not disclosed, it is equivalent to fraud.



QS should be glad this is an anonymous forum. Else he would probably have been sued a few thousand times by now.
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September 06, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
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You expect the person using the escrow to check whether the escrow and the seller is not the same person? Huh

LOL! so you blindly trust that the escrow isn't doing that? Don't do that, you'll be sure to get scammed. Absolutely you need to be checking that the escrow isnt trying to scam you. The whole way we use escrows here is FAR from perfect and there are many ways to get scammed including this way.

QS should be glad this is an anonymous forum. Else he would probably have been sued a few thousand times now.

Lol. It is not an anonymous forum nor has it ever been described as one by any of its operators. The forum collects the same amount of user information as every other forum running SMF does and Theymos provides this information to law enforcement whenever he is served with a subpoena. Additionally he claims he will provide said information without a subpoena when contacted by a law enforcement official regarding a user that is strongly suspected to be scamming and there is strong evidence to suggest that, something most other websites would never do, most websites would refuse to provide any help to the government unless they are compelled by a court to.

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September 06, 2015, 12:06:41 PM
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You expect the person using the escrow to check whether the escrow and the seller is not the same person? Huh

LOL! so you blindly trust that the escrow isn't doing that? Don't do that, you'll be sure to get scammed. Absolutely you need to be checking that the escrow isnt trying to scam you. The whole way we use escrows here is FAR from perfect and there are many ways to get scammed including this way.

No one is blindly trusting anyone. The buyer would NOT find anything solid even if he suspect that QS and Panthers52 is the same person. It is not possible for the buyer to establish they are the same person with reasonable diligence.

You are probably posting too fast without thinking? or you got me wrong there. I am talking specifically about this case.


Edit: You are just wasting my time with awkward out of context posts (by reading and replying one sentence a time?). Bye. Talk to you later. Smiley
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September 06, 2015, 12:10:43 PM
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No one is blindly trusting anyone. The buyer would NOT find anything solid even if he suspect that QS and Panthers52 is the same person. It is not possible for the buyer to establish they are the same person with reasonable diligence


If it is not possible for the buyer to establish that then he should not trade with that person. Did it say in the escrow contract that he isn't the same person as another party in the trade?

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September 06, 2015, 12:31:11 PM
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No one is blindly trusting anyone. The buyer would NOT find anything solid even if he suspect that QS and Panthers52 is the same person. It is not possible for the buyer to establish they are the same person with reasonable diligence


If it is not possible for the buyer to establish that then he should not trade with that person. Did it say in the escrow contract that he isn't the same person as another party in the trade?

Ah Dang! saw your post..

So, I kill you and claim that I hadn't mentioned "I won't kill you." in the contract? LOL, you are just stupid. Cheesy

Edit: forgot to add "Caveat Emptor". Your fault that you died.  Cool
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September 06, 2015, 12:39:18 PM
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Ah Dang! saw your post..

So, I kill you and claim that I hadn't mentioned "I won't kill you." in the contract? LOL, you are just stupid. Cheesy

Thats because I have the right to live and nothing should overturn a right, otherwise it becomes a privilege. I'm unaware of any such right to the disclosure of alt accounts. I understand your point completely, you seem to think QS has commited some kind of fraud by not disclosing the account, I don't agree with you. Scams aren't moderated here, buyers need to be careful, they are the ones responsible to find this kind of trickery.

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September 06, 2015, 01:00:26 PM
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Thats because I have the right to live and nothing should overturn a right, otherwise it becomes a privilege. I'm unaware of any such right to the disclosure of alt accounts. I understand your point completely, you seem to think QS has commited some kind of fraud by not disclosing the account, I don't agree with you. Scams aren't moderated here, buyers need to be careful, they are the ones responsible to find this kind of trickery.

You are saying that it is completely fine to escrow for self Huh

Which one is it that you are confused about?
1. Escrows are independent third-parties. You do know what third party is?
2. An omission of a material fact for personal benefit is fraud.
3. Libel is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation.

Also, your argument is awkward because you are saying buyers need to be careful of getting scammed. I agree. Scams aren't moderated here. I agree.  But, Do scammers deserve negative trust? Yes, they do. is a continuation of that. (Not saying QS is scammer here. Just saying you missed this. Scammers are responsible and will be accused. Technically, you are using Caveat Emptor without considering the exemptions inter alia fraud.  Cool)
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September 06, 2015, 01:09:25 PM
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You do know what third party is?

A type of car insurance. /s

2. An omission of a material fact for personal benefit is fraud.

Where is the personal benefit? While he "could" have scammed, he didn't actually.

3. Libel is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation.

DaDice scammed me = libel
I think DaDice are scammers = opinion

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September 06, 2015, 02:37:15 PM
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Thats because I have the right to live and nothing should overturn a right, otherwise it becomes a privilege. I'm unaware of any such right to the disclosure of alt accounts. I understand your point completely, you seem to think QS has commited some kind of fraud by not disclosing the account, I don't agree with you. Scams aren't moderated here, buyers need to be careful, they are the ones responsible to find this kind of trickery.

You are saying that it is completely fine to escrow for self Huh

Which one is it that you are confused about?
1. Escrows are independent third-parties. You do know what third party is?
2. An omission of a material fact for personal benefit is fraud.
3. Libel is a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation.

Also, your argument is awkward because you are saying buyers need to be careful of getting scammed. I agree. Scams aren't moderated here. I agree.  But, Do scammers deserve negative trust? Yes, they do. is a continuation of that. (Not saying QS is scammer here. Just saying you missed this. Scammers are responsible and will be accused. Technically, you are using Caveat Emptor without considering the exemptions inter alia fraud.  Cool)

1. A type of car insurance. /s

2. Where is the personal benefit? While he "could" have scammed, he didn't actually.

3. DaDice scammed me = libel
I think DaDice are scammers = opinion

1. At least you accepted this. Smiley

2. Fee, trust feedback. (and your point. Also, it is shady, and I highly doubt if this is true and actually proved, QS will remain in default trust)

3.IMO both are opinions if that is all an ordinary person says. But when QS, being supposedly a trusted member of the community, asserts "Da Dice is scam" in multiple threads, posts and trust feedbacks that is called libel.

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Last edit: September 06, 2015, 04:49:05 PM by dadice
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Well, if QS only got guts and post a summonable address here or somewhere else - we would indeed file a Civil Lawsuit for Defamation. But he doesn't have guts Cheesy He is hiding behind the anonymity of this forum.

Also, to say "LBC (localbitcoins.com) escrow relies on reputation and can be manipulated" is ridiculous. On the contrary, its probably the most trusted escrow around. Only somebody with a sinister motive would claim otherwise.

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September 06, 2015, 05:20:31 PM
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Well, if QS only got guts and post a summonable address here or somewhere else - we would indeed file a Civil Lawsuit for Defamation.
Of course you wouldn't, not unless you're willing to shell out $100-$200k for a lawyer over 2 years, and can prove and quantify damages. Do you have $100-$200k to waste?

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September 06, 2015, 06:12:01 PM
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The first poster has absolutely no ethics nor morals. He has stolen money from at least one website, and is advertising another casino that is clearly a scam. He does not care about warning others, in fact he is strongly against the warning of others about potential scams.

The purpose of the first poster creating this thread is to sling QS and myself's reputation through the mud because QS had called him out as a thief and because I had disagreed with him. This is not the first time that TSP has claimed that users who disagree with him are an alt of someone calling him a scammer, but you do not need to take my word for it, you only need to take a look at this thread, more specifically, look at TSP's reaction when someone agreed with $username. What did TSP do? He claimed the persons agreeing with $username was one of $username's sock-puppets.

One of the users who correctly said that TSP is a scammer is bitcointalk.org moderator Mitchell. Over a year later TSP started using a sock-puppet account to pressure Mitchell to take down a paid advertisement on a thread that he was spending a portion of his limited and valuable time maintaining. Here is an example where TSP was being especially an asshole to Mitchell:
Hello everyone,

Sorry that I haven't posted anything here lately, but my internship is consuming almost all of my time. These are the final two weeks, so things are getting busy and stressful for me. Rapports have to be written, code has to be checked, presentations have to be made, etc.

I will try update the OP somewhere this week, but please don't expect anything, because I can't promise you an update. After these two weeks it will be smooth sailing, but for now, please bear with me.

My opinion: I would bear with you a lot more happily if you'd take that advert of the front page.  As long as you're selling this thread, you should keep it up to date and not complain or say things like "don't expect anything".  If the advert is gone, then everything you said is very reasonable.  Again, just my opinion.

That's...the most dickhead thing I have heard someone say on this forum this month.

Donations amount to almost nothing for this thread, I'll bet. And he gets around 0.02 BTC every 10 days from the ad. That's hardly reimbursement for his time anyway. It's not even intrusive.
@TSP - Can you explain your months-long harassing behavior towards Mitchell as being anything other then retaliation for Mitchell agreeing that you are a scammer? If this cannot be properly address, or is ignored, then the preponderance of evidence will show that TSP harassed Mitchell for months in retaliation for calling him a scammer.


The reason TSP does not like QS is not as clear cut as it initially appears. QS had purchased advertising from Mitchell several times, and this was advertising revenue that TSP did not want Mitchell to have. TSP even went as far to start to troll QS in a signature campaign that QS was acting as escrow for.

Quote from: TSP April 09, 2015, 06:14:04 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585.msg11034617#msg11034617
Quote from: Quickseller on April 09, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585.msg11030388#msg11030388
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This is quickseller from bitcointalk.

The escrow address for the bitcoinpoker.ag signature campaign is : 1NPDJ8gmNbZd2QimaQzbFBmGUtCX5djgrC

This is in reference to the thread located: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585.0

As long as there are funds in the escrow address to cover payment to all participants then it is safe to wear the signature.

Thank you.
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This is quickseller from bitcointalk.

The escrow address for the bitcoinpoker.ag signature campaign is : 1NPDJ8gmNbZd2QimaQzbFBmGUtCX5djgrC

This is in reference to the thread located: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585.0

As long as there are funds in the escrow address to cover payment to all participants then it is safe to wear the signature.

Thank you.
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Hi Quickseller,  how can we verify your PGP message (without knowing your PGP public key)?  Also, I think the point of the signed message from the escrow is usually to prove that you control the bitcoin address associated with the escrow.  So, I think you ought to sign a message using the private key of 1NPDJ8gmNbZd2QimaQzbFBmGUtCX5djgrC so that we can verify that you control the address.

I love PGP but in this context we aren't trying to verify your identity, we want to verify that you control the funds.
Quote from: TSP April 09, 2015, 07:20:52 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1018585.msg11035305#msg11035305
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Quickseller, do you control 1NPDJ8gmNbZd2QimaQzbFBmGUtCX5djgrC ?

I'm quite surprised that what I said is in anyway controversial.  It seems quite straightforward to me.
The above might seem like a reasonable inquiry upon an initial review, however there are two points that should be made:
#1) TSP was not participating in that paid signature campaign, and this fact means that he really does not have standing to question how the escrow is working. If this was the only issue, I would give him a pass, but it is not.
#2) The escrow that TSP had started participating in prior to making the above inquiry used a similar PGP signed message to confirm the receipt of funds (except this PGP signed message did not even control an address in which he was holding funds):
Quote from: TSP March 03, 2015, 07:55:14 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973949.msg10646213#msg10646213
Ok, I'm in!

Name: tspacepilot
Post count: 1714
BTC address: 1PtuuKPwm9nmmFEyvnJBsqfjn51uHjTqda (same as in profile)

I have added your signature and I await confirmation of my enrolment.  Thanks for the opportunity!
Quote from: sed March 11, 2015, 01:49:06 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973949.msg10646213#msg10646213
Ok, I'm in!

Name: tspacepilot
Post count: 1714
BTC address: 1PtuuKPwm9nmmFEyvnJBsqfjn51uHjTqda (same as in profile)

I have added your signature and I await confirmation of my enrolment.  Thanks for the opportunity!
Quote from: Devthedev March 03, 2015, 10:08:22 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973949.msg10647762#msg10647762
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I will be providing escrow services for the DaDice signature campaign.
I am in possession of 8BTC for the first week, and dadice has stated that he or she will be refilling the address weekly.
ndnhc will be managing the campaign and will be maintaining a list of enrollees for payment each Tuesday.
Upon verification of the spreadsheet, the enrollees will receive payment to the address provided.

No more than 7.4BTC will be released to campaign members weekly.

Hero/Legendary/Staff Members: 20*.0015*100 =3
Senior Members: 20*.0013*100 =2.6
Full Members: 20*.0009*100 =1.8

The escrow fee for this signature campaign is 3%

Let me know if you have any questions, I'm looking forward to working with each of you.
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@TSP - Why exactly were you trolling QS about signing a message from a bitcoin address he was holding funds in for a signature campaign when the escrow for your very own signature campaign was holding funds in the exact same way? Was this because QS had done business with Mitchell in the past who had previously called you a scammer? If you cannot address this issue, or if you ignore this issue then the preponderance of evidence will show that you chose to harass QS because he did business with someone you did not like, and was making your overall harassment less effective.

#One additional point to add regarding this is that TSP has often advocated that DaDice is a legitimate company despite their refusal to provide any kind of evidence of controlling the amount of money they claim to control. @TSP - Can you explain why you would trust a brand new user with zero prior reputation to claim they have over a hundred thousand dollars worth of bitcoin, when you did not trust someone who has been around a while and had some number of successful trades?

TSP has also used a number of obvious shill accounts in order to make both QS and myself look bad. TSP also used at least one shill account to attempt to scam me.

Looks like you are just throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks are you jealous that quickseller is on the default trust list and you are not this proves how much he derserves it and not you
please show more respect for quickseller,
he tries so hard to keep us all safe.
Both of these are brand new accounts with only one post. After the first account posted, I had initially thought that this was a reputable member telling TSP that he is butthurt without risking that he get trolled and harassed. However once the second account posted, it became more apparent that TSP was using brand new accounts to make a very weak argument against TSP that should have looked like QS was using sock-puppet accounts.
@TSP - do you really think your argument was so weak that you needed to use additional sock-puppet accounts in order to further the reputation of both QS and myself? I am certain you are going to deny this, so I will say that this activity just makes you an asshole.


Some of you reading this may wonder what exactly this has to do with me. Not long ago, I was critical of TSP's opinion that others should not be warned about Maidak, who has credible scam accusations against him totaling thousands of dollars. He later followed up with me via PM asking me to delete the critical comments against him, and asked that I post in his meta thread against QS. I told him that I wanted to avoid the drama even though I think he is a scammer. We then went back and fourth via PM with him making very vague arguments that really did not make any sense to me, and I eventually ended it with that it is not my job to get him to agree that he is a scammer.


TL;DR - TSP is someone who will troll, and harass you if you disagree with him, or if you do business with someone that disagree with him. I would warn anyone reading this post to stay far away from TSP and avoid interacting with him at all costs because you never know if you will accidentally say something that he disagree with.

Kind Regards
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@TSP - is there a reason why you have not responded to any of my concerns? I know these are very tough questions for you to answer, and I know these questions make you look very bad, but my questions are very valid and do have to do with your overall intentions here.

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September 06, 2015, 06:21:09 PM
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man, you're one ridiculous looking moron right now, do you know that? You can't even reply coherently, you use the same tactics that scammers use. You have serious mental instabilities, as evidenced by your constant twisting of people's words, doubling-down over and over, even when you know you are fucked.

At this point, I'm actually convinced that you are not only Quickseller & Panthers, but also TC.

Oh, I'll just leave this here ...  Roll Eyes

The coin is still available

Hi nice coin.

I maybe intersted. Can you suggest an escrow? Thanks! Smiley
Hi,

I see that you posted expressing interest in my Lealana .1 BTC MS66 coin.

Where would shipping be to?

Regarding escrow providers, I would accept Tomatocage, Quickseller or PsychoticBoy as escrow, although I am willing to use any reputable escrow.

Let me know if you want to make an offer.

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hahahahaha.  Grin this guy is so ridiculous I can't even take him seriously. does this means that QS is also PsychoticBoy? awesome.

Some of you reading this may wonder what exactly this has to do with me. Not long ago, I was critical of TSP's opinion that others should not be warned about Maidak, who has credible scam accusations against him totaling thousands of dollars. He later followed up with me via PM asking me to delete the critical comments against him, and asked that I post in his meta thread against QS. I told him that I wanted to avoid the drama even though I think he is a scammer. We then went back and fourth via PM with him making very vague arguments that really did not make any sense to me, and I eventually ended it with that it is not my job to get him to agree that he is a scammer.

now that is interesting. why would TSP want you to post there? I just saw redsn0w's post on the other thread... could that be the reason?

Trusted an exchange that climbed to the top 3 in just under 2 years with your money? you are fucking stupid.
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September 06, 2015, 07:02:19 PM
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Some of you reading this may wonder what exactly this has to do with me. Not long ago, I was critical of TSP's opinion that others should not be warned about Maidak, who has credible scam accusations against him totaling thousands of dollars. He later followed up with me via PM asking me to delete the critical comments against him, and asked that I post in his meta thread against QS. I told him that I wanted to avoid the drama even though I think he is a scammer. We then went back and fourth via PM with him making very vague arguments that really did not make any sense to me, and I eventually ended it with that it is not my job to get him to agree that he is a scammer.

now that is interesting. why would TSP want you to post there? I just saw redsn0w's post on the other thread... could that be the reason?
I believe that TSP had this post prepared (at least the claim prepared) long prior to me ever posting in his meta thread about QS. He wanted an excuse to have run the "tests" he run in the first post. His conclusions are far from sound considering the fact that his overall sample was very small. I wonder how many tests TSP had to run until he found three others who have very high numbers against eachother Roll Eyes

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September 06, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
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I believe that TSP had this post prepared (at least the claim prepared) long prior to me ever posting in his meta thread about QS. He wanted an excuse to have run the "tests" he run in the first post. His conclusions are far from sound considering the fact that his overall sample was very small. I wonder how many tests TSP had to run until he found three others who have very high numbers against eachother Roll Eyes

Quickseller, you admitted in the third post of this thread that you didn't really understand the experiment.  That's okay, it is a little complicated.  Thankfully for you, you can download all the code and run as many tests as you'd like.

This is the setup:

1) I saw that Quickseller had written many, many posts under his main account, the corpus I downloaded was approximately .5 million words after tokenization
2) I knew that Quickseller had written a substantial amount of posts under an alt account which he stopped denying was his a few months ago (ACCTSeller).
3) I had more than a strong intuition that Panthers52 was QS' account, and he's written a prety substantial amount of posts with that account too.
4) The objective, then, it to quantify the similarity of the language of the Panthers52 account with repect to the known alts.

So, the experimental hypothesis is a two parter:

A language model trained on the posts of Quickseller will:
  * predict the corpora of ACCTSeller and Panthers52 with equivalent accuracy
  * predict the copora of ACCTSeller and Panthers52 with much better accuracy than the corpora of people who aren't his alt

The results:

The experimental results support both hypotheses quite strongly.  Even the model trained on the ACCTSeller data (which is considerably less robust than the QS one because of the smaller size of training data) predicts the QS and Panthers corpora much better than it predicts the copora of the non-alts in the study.

Because the code for the experiment has been made public, anyone is free to replicate the results or to run their own experiments.  If QS really wants me to run his model against more and more accounts, it's my intuition that he'll just be putting more nails into his own alt's coffin.  Maybe I'l do it tomorrow, I don't really feel like doing it today.  What's more, the behavoir of Panthers52/Quickseller both in this thread and also here already shows that they're alts to anyone who takes time to look into it.  So, to me, the quantitative data is sorta just the icing on the cake, so to speak.

There are actually a few other metrics used in textual studies which I think would be fun to apply.  Stuff with respect to hapax legomena.  If I have time, I'l try to brush up on some of these modelling techniques and I can release some further quantitative measures.  But, alas, I actually have some others stuff to do this weekend so it may be a few days.

Anyone who wants to know more about the experiment and/or receive the language models generated should PM me or email me.


The question for those on default trust at this point is this:

Given how quick you guys are to mark red trust on anyone even suspected of scamming and how it's basically considered around here that the burden of proof is on the accused to prove themselves innocent, isn't it time to warn others about trading with Panthers52?  That, at the very least, someone trading with Panthers52 might be well advised to use an escrow other than Quickseller if he really wants a neutral third-party escrow?
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September 06, 2015, 07:34:16 PM
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@tsp - you have still not explained why exactly you were wanting me to post in your meta thread. You knew my opinion on the matter long before I actually posted, yet your initial reaction was that QS and I were the same person. Is there a reason why you did not make this claim weeks ago?

You have also not responded to my questions here. I do understand that these questions to make you look very bad (as you are a bad person), but they are relevant to this thread and your MO for harassing and slandering anyone who disagrees with you.

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September 06, 2015, 09:01:13 PM
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Wow! So sad, wonder who one can trust on these board? s this a case of
All scammers , sorry animals been equal,
But some are more equal than others?

Just my opinion, and not a ststrment of fact.
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September 06, 2015, 09:10:18 PM
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You have also not responded to my questions here.

I'm not going to engage with your distraction attempt.  You want to make this about some trumped up issue you see between Mitchell and me.  I don't have any issue with Mitchell because, guess what, some people are okay to disagree without making it into a personal issue.  If Mitchell has some problem with me, surely he can speak for himself on the matter.  In any case, I can't see any relevance between Mitchell and you using escrow for yourself.

The issue in this thread is your use of an alt to trade using yourself as an escrow.  Doing this, as far as I can tell, defeats the purpose of escrow being a neutral, third-party.  I'm pretty sure that using yourself as a hidden escrow is basically the definition of conflict-of-interest.

You keep on posting these distraction attempts, but alas, it's quite transparent and you're not doing yourself any favors.  Best to try to stick to the issue at hand.  Can you go ahead and explain to us how using yourself as an escrow isn't a conflict of interest?  Or, if you're not an alt of quickseller, maybe it's best to go on the record as such.

Here's another observation, you keep on posting these "non-denials" when asked if you're an alt of quickseller.

"Whaddya mean? I'm just me?"

"I'm panthers52"

"This is the only newbie account I've used to post in this thread"

etc

I can't figure out why you keep doing this.  If you want to deny that panthers52 is your alt, you should go ahead and deny it (I'm guessing you don't want to do this because you can already foresee the day when you're going to have to own up to it, like you eventually did with ACCTSeller).  But doing all these strangely worded non-denials is a very odd thing to do.  What's the point of it?
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