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September 14, 2015, 10:35:45 PM
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Is that your picture in your profile? I always imagine an indignant teenage feminists voice raging against "whatever" when i read your posts.

See these videos for some background:

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    http://youtu.be/KAVmF-dYv4U

I get the same feeling though. The profile picture was well chosen.

  I wish i hadn't watched them dooglus.  Grin  I'm feeling too old for this site tonight.  Grin
  I'm now going back into my bubble of meme-ignorance , please don't burst it again.  Grin

 
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September 15, 2015, 05:11:08 AM
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Still arguing about this? Keep digging deeper. Shocked

Someone wiser than me implied a few months ago that QS was running a long con..... I suspect he was caught before pulling it off.

Everyone knows he has alternate accounts selling them.
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September 15, 2015, 05:30:41 AM
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Still arguing about this? Keep digging deeper. Shocked

Someone wiser than me implied a few months ago that QS was running a long con..... I suspect he was caught before pulling it off.

Everyone knows he has alternate accounts selling them.

is this true quickseller?

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September 15, 2015, 05:44:51 AM
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Still arguing about this? Keep digging deeper. Shocked

Someone wiser than me implied a few months ago that QS was running a long con..... I suspect he was caught before pulling it off.

Everyone knows he has alternate accounts selling them.

is this true quickseller?

Good luck trying to get straight answers out of someone as cunning and deceptive as QuickSeller. They only choose to answer when they can twist their words.
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September 15, 2015, 05:50:22 AM
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Those videos are creepy man. Shocked


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September 15, 2015, 06:08:34 AM
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Those videos are creepy man. Shocked





Pretty much everything about him is creepy....
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September 15, 2015, 07:48:47 AM
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Those videos are creepy man. Shocked





Pretty much everything about him is creepy....


To be honest, I can't stare at her eyes over 5 second  Embarrassed even she's just on video  Cry
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September 15, 2015, 07:50:54 AM
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Those videos are creepy man. Shocked





Pretty much everything about him is creepy....


To be honest, I can't stare at her eyes over 5 second  Embarrassed even she's just on video  Cry

and i think i am nuts... i like her Wink

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September 15, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
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Those videos are creepy man. Shocked





Pretty much everything about him is creepy....


To be honest, I can't stare at her eyes over 5 second  Embarrassed even she's just on video  Cry

and i think i am nuts... i like her Wink


I like her too on her other account.
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September 15, 2015, 09:24:09 AM
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Still arguing about this? Keep digging deeper. Shocked

Someone wiser than me implied a few months ago that QS was running a long con..... I suspect he was caught before pulling it off.

Everyone knows he has alternate accounts selling them.

is this true quickseller?

QS said he doesn't sell accounts anymore some time ago, and more than once

Up to you believe him or not
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September 15, 2015, 09:33:43 AM
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I don't agree that Escrowing for ourselver using other secret account is NOT ok...The purpose of escrow is not this...If we use our own other account as escrow then we already cheated with the other person..The escrow should be someone old respected trustworthy member of the forum Smiley
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September 15, 2015, 02:10:55 PM
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Still arguing about this? Keep digging deeper. Shocked

Someone wiser than me implied a few months ago that QS was running a long con..... I suspect he was caught before pulling it off.

Everyone knows he has alternate accounts selling them.

is this true quickseller?

QS said he doesn't sell accounts anymore some time ago, and more than once

Up to you believe him or not

He still sells accounts as last month only I guess he had mentioned it on the forum that he sold a DT account. May be after this incident he'll stop or may continue via his alt/s account/s.

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September 15, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
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Since we are in a mostly unregulated grey zone, there are obviously none or very little options to bring a case forward to the courts by any legal means. So the entire "escrow business" is a business of common trust. By definition - and this has been mentioned earlier a couple of times, escrow is a third party and a third party only. In this sense I would consider self escrow as highly immoral and unethical, even if it can't be deemed as illegal or criminal, due to the unregulated state of Bitcoin.
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September 15, 2015, 02:50:07 PM
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Wait.. why isn't anyone suspecting whether theymos is my alt or not?



Edit: No self-escrow. legit. Not against any rules.
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September 15, 2015, 03:34:45 PM
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if it's about QS than a BIG NO.  Tongue

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September 15, 2015, 03:59:43 PM
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Still arguing about this? Keep digging deeper. Shocked

Someone wiser than me implied a few months ago that QS was running a long con..... I suspect he was caught before pulling it off.

Everyone knows he has alternate accounts selling them.

is this true quickseller?

QS said he doesn't sell accounts anymore some time ago, and more than once

Up to you believe him or not

He still sells accounts as last month only I guess he had mentioned it on the forum that he sold a DT account. May be after this incident he'll stop or may continue via his alt/s account/s.

Why is selling account bad? What if you get one as a loan collateral?
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September 15, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
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Why is selling account bad? What if you get one as a loan collateral?

I don't lend any money nor do I care about receiving any accounts as collateral. It's an unethical thing to do IMO and people scam using bought accounts. Hence I consider it bad but the forum allows it.

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September 15, 2015, 04:40:33 PM
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Why is selling account bad? What if you get one as a loan collateral?

I don't lend any money nor do I care about receiving any accounts as collateral. It's an unethical thing to do IMO and people scam using bought accounts. Hence I consider it bad but the forum allows it.

I wouldn't call it unethical. Otherwise every pawnshop owner in the country, who is lets say, taking in a $20,000 Rolex watch for $5,000 and sell it if you default to pay back for $12,000 would act unethical as well. A collateral for a loan is a collateral that can and should be used in case a loan is on default.
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September 15, 2015, 04:51:20 PM
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Why is selling account bad? What if you get one as a loan collateral?

I don't lend any money nor do I care about receiving any accounts as collateral. It's an unethical thing to do IMO and people scam using bought accounts. Hence I consider it bad but the forum allows it.

I wouldn't call it unethical. Otherwise every pawnshop owner in the country, who is lets say, taking in a $20,000 Rolex watch for $5,000 and sell it if you default to pay back for $12,000 would act unethical as well. A collateral for a loan is a collateral that can and should be used in case a loan is on default.

I think the unethical part is if you sell an account with 'trust' intact. The new owner receives an account with positive ratings and may as a result be trusted by people thinking he actually earned those ratings rather than simply having bought them.

Instead of pawning Rolexes, think of pawning diplomas. The new owner looks as if he has worked for something whereas in fact he only bought a piece of paper.

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September 15, 2015, 04:55:40 PM
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Why is selling account bad? What if you get one as a loan collateral?

I don't lend any money nor do I care about receiving any accounts as collateral. It's an unethical thing to do IMO and people scam using bought accounts. Hence I consider it bad but the forum allows it.

I wouldn't call it unethical. Otherwise every pawnshop owner in the country, who is lets say, taking in a $20,000 Rolex watch for $5,000 and sell it if you default to pay back for $12,000 would act unethical as well. A collateral for a loan is a collateral that can and should be used in case a loan is on default.

I think the unethical part is if you sell an account with 'trust' intact. The new owner receives an account with positive ratings and may as a result be trusted by people thinking he actually earned those ratings rather than simply having bought them.

Instead of pawning Rolexes, think of pawning diplomas. The new owner looks as if he has worked for something whereas in fact he only bought a piece of paper.
True DAT.And if the account has a dark green trust than its price doubles up!
I hope theymos will take care about all this in his new forum.

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