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September 13, 2015, 08:04:31 AM
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If you took out a loan in the last few months, and used Quickseller/Panther52 as an escrow, QS says you are entitled to a refund of his escrow fees.

Why?  He was recently caught escrowing for himself.  When you pay a premium to a third party, you expect protection.  Quickseller took the premium but did not provide any additional protection and was certainly not a third party.  He basically just added on a free fee for himself under the guise of protection.   95% of the forum said his actions were unethical/not OK.

He has offered to refund anyone who used his bogus escrow service.  This thread will serve as ledger.

If you were escrow scammed by Quickseller or any of his alts (Panther52, AcctSeller, possibly other), please do the following in a single message:

The amount you paid for escrow
The forum thread where the deal went down (so we can verify)
Update your post when QS pays you back

This thread will be self moderated to avoid disruption.  Quickseller, you are not welcome here - do not post.
Quickseller was removed from Default Trust for trying to deceive basically the entire forum, pretending to be banned to throw attention off his scam.

To discuss if self escrow is ethical:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1174622.0
To discuss QS' escrow scam:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0

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September 13, 2015, 08:27:32 PM
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why is this in the lending section? marketplace would be a better match
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September 13, 2015, 10:56:49 PM
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He has offered to refund anyone who used his bogus escrow service.

Can you provide the relevant post to back this up? From my limited perusal I was under the impression that QS offered to pay back all those who used his escrow service for trade with his known alts, effectively Panthers52.
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September 14, 2015, 01:21:43 AM
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He has offered to refund anyone who used his bogus escrow service.

Can you provide the relevant post to back this up? From my limited perusal I was under the impression that QS offered to pay back all those who used his escrow service for trade with his known alts, effectively Panthers52.

No, he said he was willing to refund everyone:

If anyone who has paid for my escrow services wishes to get a refund they are more then welcome to do so.

Even though you have no agreement to my above point, I have previously stated that I would be willing to refund any escrow fee that anyone has paid if they request such, so even your nullified point is moot.

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September 14, 2015, 01:37:56 AM
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why is this in the lending section? marketplace would be a better match

That is a good point.  I'll make a thread there and point people here.  Thank you.

Can you provide the relevant post to back this up? From my limited perusal I was under the impression that QS offered to pay back all those who used his escrow service for trade with his known alts, effectively Panthers52.

That's the reason I'm asking for the "The forum thread where the deal went down (so we can verify) ".  So the community can see if it was a scam or not.  It would be too confusing to put all the details in the limited subject line, so I just cast a wide net and then let the small fish go.

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You could move this topic to Marketplace and leave a redirection topic behind.

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You could move this topic to Marketplace and leave a redirection topic behind.

Thank you for the advice.  I agree the Marketplace is probably where Quickscammer did most of his escrow scams.

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September 14, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
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He has offered to refund anyone who used his bogus escrow service.

Can you provide the relevant post to back this up? From my limited perusal I was under the impression that QS offered to pay back all those who used his escrow service for trade with his known alts, effectively Panthers52.


Is Panthers52 also a Quickseller account? What if we used either for escrow for a goods purchase (not lending)? The above comment was made but no one confirmed that Panther and Panthers are the same...are they?

Quickseller, you're a sneaky one with all these alt accounts! I dealt with Panthers and I think you might have responded from both accounts in the thread, wtf?!

Quickseller, are you also Blazedout?

#feelingviolated

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Is Panthers52 also a Quickseller account? What if we used either for escrow for a goods purchase (not lending)? The above comment was made but no one confirmed that Panther and Panthers are the same...are they?

Quickseller, you're a sneaky one with all these alt accounts! I dealt with Panthers and I think you might have responded from both accounts in the thread, wtf?!

Quickscammer and Panther52 are the same person, along with many other accounts.

If you have a link to the thread where QS and Panther52 were chatting to each other, that is very helpful in determining QS's honesty.

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Is Panthers52 also a Quickseller account? What if we used either for escrow for a goods purchase (not lending)? The above comment was made but no one confirmed that Panther and Panthers are the same...are they?

Quickseller, you're a sneaky one with all these alt accounts! I dealt with Panthers and I think you might have responded from both accounts in the thread, wtf?!

Quickscammer and Panther52 are the same person, along with many other accounts.

If you have a link to the thread where QS and Panther52 were chatting to each other, that is very helpful in determining QS's honesty.

Here's Panthers saying that he's for sure not QS:

If you want proof of who I am then review this video[NSFW] and you will see for sure that I am not QS and who exactly I am.

Kind Regards
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Here's QS referring to Panthers as "someone else":

Just finding out about this now.
 if true, then it should be extended with a small grace period

It is your auction, although this happened to someone else as well at roughly the same time and they ended the auction:

The same happened with me. This means that I am going to have to take the loss, as I took the risk associated with having an auction.

I also found this (in a locked thread so I couldn't quote it) where the two accounts seem happy to let people believe they are different people:


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He has offered to refund anyone who used his bogus escrow service.

Can you provide the relevant post to back this up? From my limited perusal I was under the impression that QS offered to pay back all those who used his escrow service for trade with his known alts, effectively Panthers52.


Is Panthers52 also a Quickseller account? What if we used either for escrow for a goods purchase (not lending)? The above comment was made but no one confirmed that Panther and Panthers are the same...are they?

Quickseller, you're a sneaky one with all these alt accounts! I dealt with Panthers and I think you might have responded from both accounts in the thread, wtf?!

Quickseller, are you also Blazedout?

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He is not Blazedout - I only have 1 account period. What would ever make you think that anyways?

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Here's Panthers saying that he's for sure not QS:

If you want proof of who I am then review this video[NSFW] and you will see for sure that I am not QS and who exactly I am.

Kind Regards
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So that is Quickscammer LYING, isn't it?
And if lies, he can be called a liar, can't he?
So if I call him a liar, it can't be libel, can it?

Now when he calls me a liar, that is libel and worth probably five figures, given the damage to my reputation on this forum.
(Note:  It's ok to talk of a lawsuit - Quickscammer has budgeted 20btc to suing me for "libel".)

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LELELELELELELELELEL this fucking place. All the popcorn in the world will not suffice.

Pretty soon someone (else) is going to discover that 90% of traffic on /r/Bitcoin is just Markov chains talking to each other.

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LELELELELELELELELEL this fucking place. All the popcorn in the world will not suffice.

Pretty soon someone (else) is going to discover that 90% of traffic on /r/Bitcoin is just Markov chains talking to each other.

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September 21, 2015, 06:00:32 PM
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He has offered to refund anyone who used his bogus escrow service.

Can you provide the relevant post to back this up? From my limited perusal I was under the impression that QS offered to pay back all those who used his escrow service for trade with his known alts, effectively Panthers52.


Is Panthers52 also a Quickseller account? What if we used either for escrow for a goods purchase (not lending)? The above comment was made but no one confirmed that Panther and Panthers are the same...are they?

Quickseller, you're a sneaky one with all these alt accounts! I dealt with Panthers and I think you might have responded from both accounts in the thread, wtf?!

Quickseller, are you also Blazedout?

#feelingviolated

He is not Blazedout - I only have 1 account period. What would ever make you think that anyways?

Not only would I be shocked but I'd be extremely disappointed if Blaze were to be QS. I however, see no relation of the accounts, how did you assume that?

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September 25, 2015, 02:55:55 PM
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Maybe all accounts on this forum are alts of QS? Am I the only real person here!?
I find it funny that there's networks of puppet alts controlled by random users on this forum. What's the point of that, even?

Seriously though, that's pretty scummy, although I'm glad he's refunding people--even if it is just a PR move.

Always use escrow. OgNasty is pretty sweet.

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