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September 18, 2015, 08:14:28 AM
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And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.


 Huh
Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent?

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September 18, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
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And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.


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Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent?

The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired

Edit: that's a pretty cool auto correct,  going to leave it Tongue

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September 18, 2015, 08:37:53 AM
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The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired

Yep, I got played.  Sad

On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address.

On the other hand I had guys posting my personal information and calling me a pedophile.

I lost my cool and I regret it.  It certainly won't happen again.

I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun.  Sad


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September 18, 2015, 08:43:11 AM
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The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired

Yep, I got played.  Sad

On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address.

On the other hand I had guys posting my personal information and calling me a pedophile.

I lost my cool and I regret it.  It certainly won't happen again.

I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun.  Sad


Bad luck you had there vod, guy who is doing it must be conspirating against you.

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September 18, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
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And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.


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Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent?

The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired

Edit: that's a pretty cool auto correct,  going to leave it Tongue

The CVS guy?
He's hardly been 'beaten'.

Vod sent a "to whom it may concern" email about his alleged internet use and published the address of a chain store.
I'd think the internet access would be easy for his employers to check, that's if they bother to read Vod's email.

End of story, apart from maybe a couple of stupids sending some spam.
End of story unless, of course, CVS check his internet use and find that he's been on Bitcoin Talk for his entire shift.....

On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address.

Dox him  Cheesy

Chin up Vod, what don't kill you makes you stronger, live and learn etc. etc.

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September 18, 2015, 08:54:48 AM
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Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback.

Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody?

Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left.  

Also going to review my feedbacks for QS.

While I understand your position I dont think that the rating by doog makes all past ratings bad or untrustworthy. It is (see doogs quote of theymos) an option given by the current trust system implementation. I personally dont like it, because I feel it will result in arguments on someones trust list.

If you feel that the ratings by doog and jonald are enough to remove them from your list, whats your opinion about the ratings left by Vod and favdesu?

Maybe so. But when people be abusin (default) trust, leaving bullshit feedback with no evidence that's a consideration too.

Just because people leave bullshit ratings does not make your bullshit ratings any better.

The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired

Yep, I got played.  Sad

On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address.

On the other hand I had guys posting my personal information and calling me a pedophile.

I lost my cool and I regret it.  It certainly won't happen again.

I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun.  Sad



So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]?


[1] Its an actual question and not meant to be judgemental.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 18, 2015, 09:04:35 AM
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So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]?

I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts.

He sent me multiple PMs - it wasn't just "Here is QS's address".

I'd like to hold off on discussing it anymore until we find out if it really IS Quickscammer or not.  I have not received an email reply yet.  I obviously can't believe QS when he says it's not him - he said he wasn't Panthers52 as well.

It's either going to come down to he was spending his entire workday on this forum, or he never visited this site at all.  Corporate proxy logs will be the judge and jury - not his supervisors.  The wrong person will not get in trouble.

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September 18, 2015, 09:36:16 AM
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Vod is still a cool guy from keeping the scammers out from the forum by all what i have read about him, just that he contacted qs employer was not so cool he can just ruin someone live by this.

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September 18, 2015, 09:41:35 AM
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I can only hope it never happens to you, dogie... it's not fun.  Sad

It appears you missed a lot while you were gone, I'll pm you some bed time reading Tongue

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September 18, 2015, 09:42:29 AM
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So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]?

I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts.

He sent me multiple PMs - it wasn't just "Here is QS's address".

I'd like to hold off on discussing it anymore until we find out if it really IS Quickscammer or not.  I have not received an email reply yet.  I obviously can't believe QS when he says it's not him - he said he wasn't Panthers52 as well.

It's either going to come down to he was spending his entire workday on this forum, or he never visited this site at all.  Corporate proxy logs will be the judge and jury - not his supervisors.  The wrong person will not get in trouble.

So Shadow_Runner just sent you some random info and you just ran with it no questions asked? And why would age, rank or number of posts matter? According to his feedback the account was purchased, not to mention the extortion attempts and his clear dislike of QS. And you can't say for certain that the guy wont get into trouble. I don't think it would look good for any employee if their employer received random info that their staff were up to no good regardless of whether there is any truth to it.

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September 18, 2015, 10:45:40 AM
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I do believe that you jumped the gun a bit with the whole dox thing Vod. Do you or Shadow_Runner have any solid proof that that name/address belongs to Quickseller?
I could say that I Dox'd QuickSeller and post the details of any random person. If you would believe that with no further proof, you would be doing a large wrong-doing.
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September 18, 2015, 11:43:39 AM
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So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]?

I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts.

I somehow saw a "Newbie" there. My bad.

He sent me multiple PMs - it wasn't just "Here is QS's address".

I'd like to hold off on discussing it anymore until we find out if it really IS Quickscammer or not.  I have not received an email reply yet.  I obviously can't believe QS when he says it's not him - he said he wasn't Panthers52 as well.

It's either going to come down to he was spending his entire workday on this forum, or he never visited this site at all.  Corporate proxy logs will be the judge and jury - not his supervisors.  The wrong person will not get in trouble.

Would you be open to disclose the PMs in question?

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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September 18, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
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Added a ~ for both Dooglus and jonald for the (in my opinion) bogus feedback.

Are you saying you think that I left bogus feedback for somebody?

Yeah, the feedbacks left for tspace to me were not appropriate in my opinion. I do not agree with offset feedbacks or trust for a useless loan. Not like I am saying you are a scammer...just I do not trust your feedbacks. Same thing for Jonald...he had left 3 feedbacks last I looked. When you are in the DT network you should be more careful with feedbacks left.  

Also going to review my feedbacks for QS.

While I understand your position I dont think that the rating by doog makes all past ratings bad or untrustworthy. It is (see doogs quote of theymos) an option given by the current trust system implementation. I personally dont like it, because I feel it will result in arguments on someones trust list.

If you feel that the ratings by doog and jonald are enough to remove them from your list, whats your opinion about the ratings left by Vod and favdesu?


I have decided just to yank my entire list and use only Default from here on out. I am not going to bother paying attention to all these scam reports/accusations in the future unless I am messaged about a rating I have left. I think the system in place can work fine, but only if the users can use it right...
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September 19, 2015, 01:46:42 AM
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BadBear has yet to address why wardrick is still in his trust list. He'd be among the first to know if an account was hacked wouldn't he?
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September 19, 2015, 11:57:29 PM
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Ok i will risking to get -neg tagged myself but whatever

I recently saw that vod have or is contacting QS's employer about what he did, but i think that this is really to much he could maybe lose his job.

I not defend qs's actions but he got  punished enough and i think what vod is doing now is not good at all.

What do you think!?
Hey, where is this publicly posted?  I'm just getting back to reading all this, could someone link me to the exact posts for this?
Thanks in advance.
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September 20, 2015, 12:02:46 AM
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So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]?

I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts.

You do realize that Shadow_Runner was quite obviously a recently sold account, right? It might as well have been a newbie with 3 posts.
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September 20, 2015, 12:07:53 AM
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Ok i will risking to get -neg tagged myself but whatever

I recently saw that vod have or is contacting QS's employer about what he did, but i think that this is really to much he could maybe lose his job.

I not defend qs's actions but he got  punished enough and i think what vod is doing now is not good at all.

What do you think!?
Hey, where is this publicly posted?  I'm just getting back to reading all this, could someone link me to the exact posts for this?
Thanks in advance.

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September 24, 2015, 07:09:54 AM
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So you never had anything to go on, but an anonymous tip[1]?

I'm not sure you could call it anonymous - Shadow_Runner - hero member almost two years old with 6,000 posts.

You do realize that Shadow_Runner was quite obviously a recently sold account, right? It might as well have been a newbie with 3 posts.
I don't think this mattered very much to Vod. He has a solid history of not conducting any meaningful amount of research prior to leaving negative trust against someone (or in this case doxing someone), and when he is called out on such negative trust with the lack of evidence, he simply trolls them until they leave.

Why would this case be any different?

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September 24, 2015, 08:07:16 PM
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I don't think this mattered very much to Vod. He has a solid history of not conducting any meaningful amount of research prior to leaving negative trust against someone (or in this case doxing someone), and when he is called out on such negative trust with the lack of evidence, he simply trolls them until they leave.

Why would this case be any different?

Let's see what Quickseller has to say about Vod, historically:



I will un-exclude Vod since he is gone and his ratings are very helpful to many people. My only concern was his rating against Armis, however I can "manually" ignore this.

Quote from: Quickseller link=topic=1023038.msg11088449#msg11088449
Edit: the vast majority of the I hate Vod/quickseller/tomatocage threads are made by scammers.

haha wow that is a lot of negative feedback. Well I guess we now know who was behind all those spam negatives that Vod got not long ago. None of them have any credibility though, especially considering that they all have negative trust

I am glad to see that people are still trolling Vod, over a month after he left - this must mean that he did a good job at stopping scammer

Quote from: Quickseller link=topic=913889.msg10042566#msg10042566
My experience with Vod is that he is generally a reasonable person,

Here's a fun one:
Seems that most people who feel Vod needs to be removed
are people that have received negative trust from Vod.

Just sayin.
I am fairly certain that if vod is removed then someone will step in and negative trust everyone that he gave negative trust to

It gets better:
I agree that Vod is sometimes a little aggressive when dealing with people. I wouldn't say that he is entirely to blame as the people he is generally aggressive with tend to attempt a campaign (or in this case campaigns) against Vod. I do however consider him to be fair with his ratings most of the time (as in 99.9%+).

I think a lot of the "Vod drama" would go stop if he were to simply "walk away" once the person he is dealing with starts things like personal attacks and trolling him.

Vod should not be removed from Default trust list as he has way too many people negative rated as scammers and he puts in a lot of time and effort into preventing scams. There are few other, reputable people on here that are willing to put in this much effort into protecting the community.


Lets finish with this one:
Don't get me wrong, I very much respect and admire VOD. I just think it is funny as to what lengths people go to try to "get back at" VOD for giving them negative trust and ruining their scam attempt.



QS, you've come a long way from "respect and admire", what happened?
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October 28, 2015, 04:10:31 AM
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Vod blocked me from sending him PMs
It's actually kind of sad that you are complaining about this.

Of course Vod blocked you.

You called him a paedophile, doxed him, and overall gave him a hard time.

You probably caused him alot of grief through PM, and maybe you tried to blackmail him. Who knows? Roll Eyes

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