We don't have enough ridiculous threads about BFL.

[squeept]

I demand some new trivial, pointless, stupid shit to argue about BFL. Are we unhappy that they take weekends off or something? Come on, there's gotta be some tiny little detail that you're unhappy with that you want to be super vocal about for some reason.

On a side note, BFL should have made the decision to stop having a forum presence here a long time ago. You people are insane, and I would be ashamed to have you as customers.

[1715488211]

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[psilan]

Bugger off.

[squeept]

No.

[psilan]

But I demand it?

[Unacceptable]

I'm with you man 

Some of the questions being asked are very strange & pointless.It is very entertaining,in a sadistic way though 

[jojo69]

I heard BFL eats babies

[Unacceptable]

[bobitza]

You forgot to create this thread as a poll, lmao!

[squeept]

The poll options would be "yes" and "no" and there would be no question. I would then, later in the thread, use the results to argue a point that has yet to be determined.

[SLok]

The poll options would be "yes" and "no" and there would be no question. I would then, later in the thread, use the results to argue a point that has yet to be determined.

I bet 5 btc!

[Bogart]

More cowbell.

[Unacceptable]

Here ya go 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjsUf_oIgp0

[gmaxwell]

Agreed.  I did my part: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118464.0

[Zeronic]

I like to see all *** moved to a sub forum or removed but that just my .02 BTC.

[crazyates]

Step 1: Troll BFL, either directly through their customer support, or indirectly through the forums.
Step 2: Call BFL a scam when they don't treat you like a valid customer.
Step 3: ? ? ?
Step 4: Profit!

[pieppiep]

I've heard BFL wan't to break to highest freefall record after the redbull stratos jump, so next year there will be a BFL stratos jump from 2 times as high.

[jayeeyee]

I think it's a follow the leader mentality. People who don't know anything about BFL will follow the next person with any information regarding BFL.  Unfortunately, most of the time, the information we get is "BFL sucks at this or that" and that's what people go by.  I don't know how this started.. well.. I do know actually, but in the bigger picture, I really don't know what lead to there poor business image.  When it comes down to it, if you don't want to deal with BFL, don't order their shiz.  They're not holding a gun up to you and demanding you to tell them to take your money.

[creativex]

BFL has the least effective & least professional business image I've encountered in quite some time. They're their own worst enemy.

[crazyates]

BFL has the least effective & least professional business image I've encountered in quite some time. They're their own worst enemy.

Pretty sure they don't care at all about your opinion of their business image, cuz they're makin mad cash.

[creativex]

Clearly BFL_Josh/inaba cares very little about most people's opinion of the company he represents. He's over trolling BTCFPGA's thread just now.  

A sustainable business model is about building and maintaining long term relationships, not quick cash grabs produced by vaporware products months prior to (re)scheduled release.

Bottom line is they have a slew of customers on hand now because they were first to open their pre-order window(way way too early for my liking, but just MO). If they deliver a quality product on time then most will overlook the thoroughly unprofessional nature of their reps. If however it comes down to a choice between multiple competing companies with similar product lines then the poor public image they seem to embrace could well become the deciding factor for many. I imagine there will be some unhappy BFL customers if they paid for a product months ago with the understanding that it'd be shipped in October and someone else beats them to the punch. Yet given their history of delays that's a very real possibility.

[Graet]

BUT everyone is missing the important question....
Will it blend?
that must be worth its own ridiculous thread 

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Clearly BFL_Josh/inaba cares very little about most people's opinion of the company he represents. He's over trolling BTCFPGA's thread just now.  

A sustainable business model is about building and maintaining long term relationships, not quick cash grabs produced by vaporware products months prior to (re)scheduled release.

Bottom line is they have a slew of customers on hand now because they were first to open their pre-order window(way way too early for my liking, but just MO). If they deliver a quality product on time then most will overlook the thoroughly unprofessional nature of their reps. If however it comes down to a choice between multiple competing companies with similar product lines then the poor public image they seem to embrace could well become the deciding factor for many. I imagine there will be some unhappy BFL customers if they paid for a product months ago with the understanding that it'd be shipped in October and someone else beats them to the punch. Yet given their history of delays that's a very real possibility.

All I truly know is that I have $100 at stake here. I put money where my mouth is. I told Josh that I would donate a $100 to a charity of his choice when BFL delivers the pre-orders. Josh was kind enough to offer up EFF, but I did read in a post by him that he may now have reservations about that choice. He's free to change his choice at any time.

~Bruno K~

[tacotime]

You can watch Inaba be a douchebag all day in this thread over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79637.1160

[squeept]

I'd be trolling 24/7 if I had to put up with the constant onslaught they have to deal with.

I think anyone posting anything ASIC related should be banned until one is released.

[ralree]

(comment about BFL being a scam).  (Speculation about difficulty).  (Tongue-in-cheek smartass remark).

[squeept]

Can I use a bitcoin ASIC to mine for palladium?

[creativex]

I'd be trolling 24/7 if I had to put up with the constant onslaught they have to deal with.

Seems inaba feels similarly. As a small business owner and employee I've been personally and professionally attacked many times and haven't resorted to mud slinging, name calling, or trolling. It solves nothing and simply exacerbates the problem. I've also never knowingly represented a company with an officer that's a convicted fraudster either. 

I think anyone posting anything ASIC related should be banned until one is released.

I trust you're not serious. Unless I logged onto the wrong website, this IS a discussion forum. There are many many scammers here abouts AND BFL does have a whole lot of other people's funds, combined with a track record that's ummm...rather suspect to say the least.

[creativex]

Can I use a bitcoin ASIC to mine for palladium?

Nope. However if you ask nicely the local muffler shop MAY let you go through their scrap looking for catalytic converters.

[SkRRJyTC]

Should I start another one about how they wont let me upgrade my Jale orders to a Little SC with Bitcoin?

Upgrades are Pay Pal only for god knows why  

[Unacceptable]

Should I start another one about how they wont let me upgrade my Jale orders to a Little SC with Bitcoin?

Upgrades are Pay Pal only for god knows why  

Do what I did,convert BTC to paypal by:

https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/Default.aspx

[Inaba]

Yes, trolling the bASIC thread by asking what his power requirements are going to be and also what "competitive" means.  Yes, that's certainly trolling alright!  And this only AFTER Tom invited me to comment in his thread by making statements about our power usage that are ... shall we say ... less than factual?  I wouldn't have even posted in the thread if Tom hadn't made the request.

[crazyates]

Yes, trolling the bASIC thread by asking what his power requirements are going to be and also what "competitive" means.  Yes, that's certainly trolling alright!  And this only AFTER Tom invited me to comment in his thread by making statements about our power usage that are ... shall we say ... less than factual?  I wouldn't have even posted in the thread if Tom hadn't made the request.

I personally don't have a problem with you calling him out on his claims that you were less than truthful with your specs. I prolly would have done the same. However, your flaw is you don't know when to shut up.

[enmaku]

Yes, trolling the bASIC thread by asking what his power requirements are going to be and also what "competitive" means.  Yes, that's certainly trolling alright!  And this only AFTER Tom invited me to comment in his thread by making statements about our power usage that are ... shall we say ... less than factual?  I wouldn't have even posted in the thread if Tom hadn't made the request.

I personally don't have a problem with you calling him out on his claims that you were less than truthful with your specs. I prolly would have done the same. However, your flaw is you don't know when to shut up.

Crazy's got a point. I wouldn't necessarily call Inaba a troll, but I'd say he enjoys feeding them WAY too much. Seriously dude, you have way too much fun on these forums for your own good - and that's coming from someone who really likes BFL and their products, not one of the haters. Just... y'know... take it down a notch?

[bce]

Yes, trolling the bASIC thread by asking what his power requirements are going to be and also what "competitive" means.  Yes, that's certainly trolling alright!  And this only AFTER Tom invited me to comment in his thread by making statements about our power usage that are ... shall we say ... less than factual?  I wouldn't have even posted in the thread if Tom hadn't made the request.

I personally don't have a problem with you calling him out on his claims that you were less than truthful with your specs. I prolly would have done the same. However, your flaw is you don't know when to shut up.

Crazy's got a point. I wouldn't necessarily call Inaba a troll, but I'd say he enjoys feeding them WAY too much. Seriously dude, you have way too much fun on these forums for your own good - and that's coming from someone who really likes BFL and their products, not one of the haters. Just... y'know... take it down a notch?

I totally agree.   Please take it down a notch, Inaba ... at least until the first ASIC ships. Upon first shipment of ASICs, a middle finger for all douche bags will be in order.  But until then, wouldn't it be better to focus efforts on resolving supply chain/ marketing/ BFL website issues?  I am sure there are more serious things than this forum - in the meantime, let the douche nozzles spray what they will.

[crazyates]

Yes, trolling the bASIC thread by asking what his power requirements are going to be and also what "competitive" means.  Yes, that's certainly trolling alright!  And this only AFTER Tom invited me to comment in his thread by making statements about our power usage that are ... shall we say ... less than factual?  I wouldn't have even posted in the thread if Tom hadn't made the request.

I personally don't have a problem with you calling him out on his claims that you were less than truthful with your specs. I prolly would have done the same. However, your flaw is you don't know when to shut up.

Crazy's got a point. I wouldn't necessarily call Inaba a troll, but I'd say he enjoys feeding them WAY too much. Seriously dude, you have way too much fun on these forums for your own good - and that's coming from someone who really likes BFL and their products, not one of the haters. Just... y'know... take it down a notch?

I totally agree.   Please take it down a notch, Inaba ... at least until the first ASIC ships. Upon first shipment of ASICs, a middle finger for all douche bags will be in order.  But until then, wouldn't it be better to focus efforts on resolving supply chain/ marketing/ BFL website issues?  I am sure there are more serious things than this forum - in the meantime, let the douche nozzles spray what they will.

LOL +1

[firefop]

Clearly BFL_Josh/inaba cares very little about most people's opinion of the company he represents. He's over trolling BTCFPGA's thread just now.  

A sustainable business model is about building and maintaining long term relationships, not quick cash grabs produced by vaporware products months prior to (re)scheduled release.

Bottom line is they have a slew of customers on hand now because they were first to open their pre-order window(way way too early for my liking, but just MO). If they deliver a quality product on time then most will overlook the thoroughly unprofessional nature of their reps. If however it comes down to a choice between multiple competing companies with similar product lines then the poor public image they seem to embrace could well become the deciding factor for many. I imagine there will be some unhappy BFL customers if they paid for a product months ago with the understanding that it'd be shipped in October and someone else beats them to the punch. Yet given their history of delays that's a very real possibility.

Actually having Inaba abusing people is a plus in my book. We're geeks, all the insanely bad customer service will (and should) be overlooked as long as they keep delivering bleeding edge tech to their customers.

[creativex]

Does ANYONE have a current estimate on when this current bleeding edge technology from BFL will ship? I've seen estimates from early-mid OCT(old) to early DEC(new) and nearly everything in between. Given the halving of block rewards coming in December an accurate schedule seems rather important.

[Syke]

Does ANYONE have a current estimate on when this current bleeding edge technology from BFL will ship? I've seen estimates from early-mid OCT(old) to early DEC(new) and nearly everything in between. Given the halving of block rewards coming in December an accurate schedule seems rather important.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/

Payments made for pre-orders of ASIC based products now under development should be considered non-refundable until products begin shipping or 1 January 2013, whichever is earlier.

With no refunds till January, sounds like they're confident they'll ship in late December.

[creativex]

I suspect there will be a whole bunch of properly PO'd peeps if they can't get them out the door till mid-late December. They could easily be second or third to market with that timetable after accepting pre-orders and proclaiming Oct as their release date way back in June(?) Earlier? 

[Starlightbreaker]

Clearly BFL_Josh/inaba cares very little about most people's opinion of the company he represents. He's over trolling BTCFPGA's thread just now.  

A sustainable business model is about building and maintaining long term relationships, not quick cash grabs produced by vaporware products months prior to (re)scheduled release.

Bottom line is they have a slew of customers on hand now because they were first to open their pre-order window(way way too early for my liking, but just MO). If they deliver a quality product on time then most will overlook the thoroughly unprofessional nature of their reps. If however it comes down to a choice between multiple competing companies with similar product lines then the poor public image they seem to embrace could well become the deciding factor for many. I imagine there will be some unhappy BFL customers if they paid for a product months ago with the understanding that it'd be shipped in October and someone else beats them to the punch. Yet given their history of delays that's a very real possibility.

Actually having Inaba abusing people is a plus in my book. We're geeks, all the insanely bad customer service will (and should) be overlooked as long as they keep delivering bleeding edge tech to their customers.

so, what has been delivered so far?

[bce]

If they can deliver, it's not bragging.  Customer satisfaction can be easily obtained by intentionally decreasing expectations, then over-delivering.  I expect first shipping to be on the last day of October 

[C10H15N]

BFL has the least effective & least professional business image I've encountered in quite some time. They're their own worst enemy.

You obviously don't have cable.

[bce]

BFL has the least effective & least professional business image I've encountered in quite some time. They're their own worst enemy.

You obviously don't have cable.

They're their enemy there? 

[regular]

So many various consisting of nothing but just flaming and insults really lowers the usefullness of the board.  I hope the mods are able to institute some rules to prevent it in the future.

[creativex]

Kind of to be expected don'tcha think? People sent money to BFL as far back as spring to pre-order a gadget allegedly to be made available in Oct. Since that time news that BFL is headed by a convicted fraudster has surfaced(though scarcely addressed) and delivery date has been pushed back till Nov/Dec. Then there's a certain BFL rep's complete lack of professionalism when dealing with understandably concerned customers.

[HolyScott]

Lions and tigers and bears oh my.

[squeept]

I once directed a pornographic film starring BFL.

[bce]

I once directed a pornographic film starring BFL.

When does it come out? 

[crazyates]

I once directed a pornographic film starring BFL.

When does it cum out? 

FTFY

[bce]

Maybe earlier than expected