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October 25, 2017, 05:35:18 PM
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Hi again

Once again you are giving just empty words.

You did not mention what kind of contract you used to have(did they broke contract rules?), what was your upkeep rate, what was the price of contract.

What you did say is that you did not buy a lot which makes it less profitable in the frist place because of higher price per gh/s on small contracts.

When it comes to unhappy customers I do understand people who are waiting for their tickets to be solved very long.
From the other hand wrong investment in such unpredictable business like mining is investors foult.


It is impossible to predict price and difficulty changes and of course there is risk involved.
Remember that every 4 years block reward halving take place in BTC mining: http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/
Moreover there could be better coin showing up at any time or new mining hardware like it was with Bitmain --> Dash contracts.
Also there could be theft(hack) involved like it was with Mt.Gox.
This resulted in big BTC price dip because back in the days Mt.Gox was taking care of 70% BTC transactions. I suspect this was a reason why your contract came to an end.

Take notice that now BTC exchanging is way more decentralized so the risk that the hack will have significant impact is much lower.

There are also projects like omnisego or kyber network which are big prospects when it comes to even better way of exchanging our cryptos.


You call happy people who made profit puppets. Maybe they just thought their investment through better then you?

I gave you videos, pictures, calculations, dates, payout proofs but still you say that I did not prove anything.

This is ridicoulous or maybe you didn't even bother to look through what I posted?

It is not a rocket science to calculate that that I made a big profit if I still receive over 50 USD a day after more then 18 months (to make it easier 1 USD=3,6 PLN).
In the video you can also see how much I spend on my contracts and when it was.

Regards, Marcin


Blablablabla. I don't care little puppet.

If you believe it's profitable, get the fuck away from here and invest what you want. Go back to your Genesis Mining youtube videos getting your referees.
I'm not forcing you not to do so. Feel free to lose your money with them.
I'm just warning others.


Hi again

Looks like someone is losing it...

I am not surprised you lost your money if you are showing such level of EQ.

Don't have any arguments become offensive. Typical behaviour and so sad as well.

Too bad for you that I also have few minutes to share facts in this topic and I will do it with big pleasure.

BTW remember to buy in the dip :-)


Best regards, Marcin

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October 26, 2017, 03:55:06 AM
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Hi again

Once again you are giving just empty words.

You did not mention what kind of contract you used to have(did they broke contract rules?), what was your upkeep rate, what was the price of contract.

What you did say is that you did not buy a lot which makes it less profitable in the frist place because of higher price per gh/s on small contracts.

When it comes to unhappy customers I do understand people who are waiting for their tickets to be solved very long.
From the other hand wrong investment in such unpredictable business like mining is investors foult.


It is impossible to predict price and difficulty changes and of course there is risk involved.
Remember that every 4 years block reward halving take place in BTC mining: http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/
Moreover there could be better coin showing up at any time or new mining hardware like it was with Bitmain --> Dash contracts.
Also there could be theft(hack) involved like it was with Mt.Gox.
This resulted in big BTC price dip because back in the days Mt.Gox was taking care of 70% BTC transactions. I suspect this was a reason why your contract came to an end.

Take notice that now BTC exchanging is way more decentralized so the risk that the hack will have significant impact is much lower.

There are also projects like omnisego or kyber network which are big prospects when it comes to even better way of exchanging our cryptos.


You call happy people who made profit puppets. Maybe they just thought their investment through better then you?

I gave you videos, pictures, calculations, dates, payout proofs but still you say that I did not prove anything.

This is ridicoulous or maybe you didn't even bother to look through what I posted?

It is not a rocket science to calculate that that I made a big profit if I still receive over 50 USD a day after more then 18 months (to make it easier 1 USD=3,6 PLN).
In the video you can also see how much I spend on my contracts and when it was.

Regards, Marcin


Blablablabla. I don't care little puppet.

If you believe it's profitable, get the fuck away from here and invest what you want. Go back to your Genesis Mining youtube videos getting your referees.
I'm not forcing you not to do so. Feel free to lose your money with them.
I'm just warning others.


Hi again

Looks like someone is losing it...

I am not surprised you lost your money if you are showing such level of EQ.

Don't have any arguments become offensive. Typical behaviour and so sad as well.

Too bad for you that I also have few minutes to share facts in this topic and I will do it with big pleasure.

BTW remember to buy in the dip :-)


Best regards, Marcin

Every one is sharing their opinions about genesis mining but people are getting paid are not giving any positive feedback to the company because only negative noise will make more sound when compared to positive.



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October 30, 2017, 10:06:58 AM
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I'd go even a step further and say Genesis Mining is a fraud.

I recently ordered a 100MH/s 2 year contract, and their ETH ouput is very bad. Before I complained the ETH output, I got ~ 70MH/s (average over longer period), after complaining about the inefficiency of their miners, the output increased to about the capabilities of a 80MH/s rig (thats one I actually have at home, so I can compare that quite good), but this was only 2 days ago.
The etherscan.io mining calculator they are refering to alsoc calculates much higher output than Genesis actually does.
Additionally sometimes payouts or achieved ETH are missing a day (even though internally added to the ETH balance) and the initial payout (when paying via CC you get your first payout after ~ 30day) is never shown in the stats. So their stats is basically useless.

Was trying to quit my 2 years contract, but support always writes standard respones.

Should have come to this thread earlier.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM GENESIS MINING !!!!

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October 30, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
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I'd go even a step further and say Genesis Mining is a fraud.

I recently ordered a 100MH/s 2 year contract, and their ETH ouput is very bad. Before I complained the ETH output, I got ~ 70MH/s (average over longer period), after complaining about the inefficiency of their miners, the output increased to about the capabilities of a 80MH/s rig (thats one I actually have at home, so I can compare that quite good), but this was only 2 days ago.
The etherscan.io mining calculator they are refering to alsoc calculates much higher output than Genesis actually does.
Additionally sometimes payouts or achieved ETH are missing a day (even though internally added to the ETH balance) and the initial payout (when paying via CC you get your first payout after ~ 30day) is never shown in the stats. So their stats is basically useless.

Was trying to quit my 2 years contract, but support always writes standard respones.

Should have come to this thread earlier.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM GENESIS MINING !!!!



Hi again

Please see the video for further info from VIP assistance service:

Payout problems again and more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yDywjwXIrQ


Regards, Marcin



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October 30, 2017, 01:03:38 PM
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Why do we have a newbie here defending GM? The last few pages of this thread seem to be dominated by his exchsne of words with other users. Shilling I would guess...














 

 

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October 30, 2017, 01:46:16 PM
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Why do we have a newbie here defending GM? The last few pages of this thread seem to be dominated by his exchsne of words with other users. Shilling I would guess...

Sorry that you are disappointed about my statuts(level).
I thought that it is way more important what we have to say instead of how long we are part of Bitcoin Forum.

Following that way of thinking maybe new people should stop posting at all if you think they should not defend their opinions?


Please add something important to the topic because it is about Genesis Mining not about user status(level).


BTW maybe I am newbie on this forum but I am definately not when it comes to Genesis Mining.
Moreover I have access to VIP assistance service. Do you think that everyone have it?

I just try to make equal chances for everyone but it seems some of you are not happy about it which is your right of course...



Kind regards, Marcin

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October 30, 2017, 02:32:46 PM
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I'd go even a step further and say Genesis Mining is a fraud.

I recently ordered a 100MH/s 2 year contract, and their ETH ouput is very bad. Before I complained the ETH output, I got ~ 70MH/s (average over longer period), after complaining about the inefficiency of their miners, the output increased to about the capabilities of a 80MH/s rig (thats one I actually have at home, so I can compare that quite good), but this was only 2 days ago.
The etherscan.io mining calculator they are refering to alsoc calculates much higher output than Genesis actually does.
Additionally sometimes payouts or achieved ETH are missing a day (even though internally added to the ETH balance) and the initial payout (when paying via CC you get your first payout after ~ 30day) is never shown in the stats. So their stats is basically useless.

Was trying to quit my 2 years contract, but support always writes standard respones.

Should have come to this thread earlier.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM GENESIS MINING !!!!


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October 30, 2017, 03:02:54 PM
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looks like here are at least 2 GM affilated posters trying to always have the last word - of course always positive for GM. Maybe the moderator should block them.

Fact is: charging money for performance X, but delivering ~ 30% less performance - is FRAUD !!!

hands off. unless you want to loose money.

the only one that wins in this game is GM
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October 30, 2017, 04:21:31 PM
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Why do we have a newbie here defending GM? The last few pages of this thread seem to be dominated by his exchsne of words with other users. Shilling I would guess...

Sorry that you are disappointed about my statuts(level).
I thought that it is way more important what we have to say instead of how long we are part of Bitcoin Forum.

Following that way of thinking maybe new people should stop posting at all if you think they should not defend their opinions?


Please add something important to the topic because it is about Genesis Mining not about user status(level).


BTW maybe I am newbie on this forum but I am definately not when it comes to Genesis Mining.
Moreover I have access to VIP assistance service. Do you think that everyone have it?

I just try to make equal chances for everyone but it seems some of you are not happy about it which is your right of course...



Kind regards, Marcin
So long story short is that you actually admit to being a shill. Good that you're upfront about it actually but don't expect to be taken seriously so long as you're admitting to being a shill of the accused.














 

 

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October 30, 2017, 06:59:42 PM
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Not to think I was about subscribing for a package tommorow.
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October 30, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
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Why do we have a newbie here defending GM? The last few pages of this thread seem to be dominated by his exchsne of words with other users. Shilling I would guess...

Sorry that you are disappointed about my statuts(level).
I thought that it is way more important what we have to say instead of how long we are part of Bitcoin Forum.

Following that way of thinking maybe new people should stop posting at all if you think they should not defend their opinions?


Please add something important to the topic because it is about Genesis Mining not about user status(level).


BTW maybe I am newbie on this forum but I am definately not when it comes to Genesis Mining.
Moreover I have access to VIP assistance service. Do you think that everyone have it?

I just try to make equal chances for everyone but it seems some of you are not happy about it which is your right of course...



Kind regards, Marcin
So long story short is that you actually admit to being a shill. Good that you're upfront about it actually but don't expect to be taken seriously so long as you're admitting to being a shill of the accused.

Hi again

It is a shame that so many people are just throwing empty words without adding anything to the topic except insults without a reason.

I think english call the empty bucket right?

Looks like it is waste of time talking with you. If I was a shill I would not make a videos about missing payouts for you information Mr. Legendary.

Btw I don't see a reason to talk just bad about the program which made so much money...




Regards, Marcin



 

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October 30, 2017, 08:20:56 PM
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Not to think I was about subscribing for a package tommorow.

Hi

Please have a look at my Youtube channel. There is a lot about Genesis Mining. Bad and good info.
When it comes to their contracts in my opinion the only one which is worth looking at is BTC open ended contract. They are sold out at the moment.

You can find links to my videos in my previous posts in this topic.

Don't listen to anyone. Make up your owm mind. Haters gonna hate because that is who they are but GM is not perfect that is correct.


If you will try to find something 100% certain you can just quit straight away because nothing is 100% sure.


Kind Regards, Marcin

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October 30, 2017, 08:28:25 PM
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looks like here are at least 2 GM affilated posters trying to always have the last word - of course always positive for GM. Maybe the moderator should block them.

Fact is: charging money for performance X, but delivering ~ 30% less performance - is FRAUD !!!

hands off. unless you want to loose money.

the only one that wins in this game is GM

Hi

it was never my intention to stand on one side.
Probably you know more about ETH contracts in GM that I do because I never bought one.
If you will look through some of my videos you will find that the only contracts I am backing up are open ended BTC contracts which are sold out now.

My personal experience about this contracts is very positive but every situation is different so I am not here to judge.

In my last video which is posted here I did say that my ticket is 3 months old so I don't see how this is defending...



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October 31, 2017, 05:45:53 AM
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Hi

it was never my intention to stand on one side.
Probably you know more about ETH contracts in GM that I do because I never bought one.
If you will look through some of my videos you will find that the only contracts I am backing up are open ended BTC contracts which are sold out now.

My personal experience about this contracts is very positive but every situation is different so I am not here to judge.


So Mr. Einstein, tell us how your experience with contracts can be positive if you never ever had one ? That definitely looks like "standing on one side" to me, sorry. How much does GM pay you ? Not much I guess, they are so low on HR buget, it always takes them nearly a week to answer any support request - most of them are probably complaints about their lousy and inefficeient service..



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October 31, 2017, 06:39:13 AM
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Most people are not talking about the genesis mining may be because they are getting paid from the company. Yes, every company has positive feedback and negative feedback but people should understand whether company has the possibility to pay the investors. Firstly research before investing into Genesis mining because Genesis mining is paying to the members from many years.

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Most people are not talking about the genesis mining may be because they are getting paid from the company. Yes, every company has positive feedback and negative feedback but people should understand whether company has the possibility to pay the investors. Firstly research before investing into Genesis mining because Genesis mining is paying to the members from many years.
Yes, but Genesis Mining pays out less than inverstors invested. You normally call this a loss. Fact. Definitely for Ethereum Mining.
Take any serious mining calculator (e.g. etherscan.io) , enter the hash rate for a contract and compare to output your own contract. On average at least 30% below calculated output.
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Hi

it was never my intention to stand on one side.
Probably you know more about ETH contracts in GM that I do because I never bought one.
If you will look through some of my videos you will find that the only contracts I am backing up are open ended BTC contracts which are sold out now.

My personal experience about this contracts is very positive but every situation is different so I am not here to judge.


So Mr. Einstein, tell us how your experience with contracts can be positive if you never ever had one ? That definitely looks like "standing on one side" to me, sorry. How much does GM pay you ? Not much I guess, they are so low on HR buget, it always takes them nearly a week to answer any support request - most of them are probably complaints about their lousy and inefficeient service..






Hi

I never said that I don't have contracts with GM. I said I don't have ETH contract.

Thank you for calling me with such intelligent name but I definately don't deserve it ;-)



Regards, Marcin

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October 31, 2017, 12:31:29 PM
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Most people are not talking about the genesis mining may be because they are getting paid from the company. Yes, every company has positive feedback and negative feedback but people should understand whether company has the possibility to pay the investors. Firstly research before investing into Genesis mining because Genesis mining is paying to the members from many years.

Hi

I am so glad someone finally wrote something neutral. I thnik you hit the point perfectly and 1 000 000 customers can't be wrong right?


Of course there are unhappy people and not everyone is receiving what they should but with such high number of customers I understand that is not easy at all.
Tickets are delayed even 3 months. This is all true but BTC open ended contracts are just great in my personal opinion and everyone could have different fillings about it.



Kind regards, Marcin

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October 31, 2017, 08:04:47 PM
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These genesis mining puppets are funny. Lying there and saying they make some profit when It's impossible to do so. I hope GM is paying you well for this at least.

But don't worry. People will read my first post and understand that you are lying and shilling for GM here.

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November 03, 2017, 11:51:57 AM
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Hi guys

I have some good news. Those who bought mining hashpower from Genesis Mining in September - it is live now!


Thank you @GenesisMining new hashpower is live!
https://youtu.be/D-xDDLpOgxE


I added a video about it above plus some more details if anyone interested :-)



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