Bitcoin Forum
May 04, 2024, 06:53:12 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 ... 64 »
  Print  
Author Topic: CryptoNote technical discussion and Chess Challenge  (Read 96044 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
XMRpromotions
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 336
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 13, 2015, 07:25:42 AM
 #181

h3 to stop Ng4

Don't buy Monero: https://twitter.com/MoneroPromotion/status/746006420508729344

XMR: 43hPTYyKarCTWyh4ZnMVn8AtFeEmtzTXo3Y6TGGMV26BWonJ4tpR7eP9RkUDYQbvg6LbrnMXWfghddE NGtvKxr7B5oML4qd
1714805592
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714805592

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714805592
Reply with quote  #2

1714805592
Report to moderator
1714805592
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714805592

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714805592
Reply with quote  #2

1714805592
Report to moderator
1714805592
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714805592

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714805592
Reply with quote  #2

1714805592
Report to moderator
You can see the statistics of your reports to moderators on the "Report to moderator" pages.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714805592
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714805592

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714805592
Reply with quote  #2

1714805592
Report to moderator
1714805592
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714805592

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714805592
Reply with quote  #2

1714805592
Report to moderator
1714805592
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714805592

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714805592
Reply with quote  #2

1714805592
Report to moderator
smooth
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198



View Profile
October 13, 2015, 11:13:57 AM
 #182

h3 to stop Ng4

I don't see Ng4 as that dangerous (we can just move the queen) but I'm going to vote for h3 because I don't like having to go on the defensive.

I think we have a tie now so this move will lose to O-O unless someone else votes for it.

h3
8XMR
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 88
Merit: 10


View Profile
October 13, 2015, 06:00:35 PM
 #183

O-O

8xmr.com
dre1982
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 770
Merit: 284


★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!


View Profile
October 13, 2015, 08:36:57 PM
 #184

h3 to stop Ng4

those moves are very ineffective. It better to develop. Will post tomorrow a game I just played at the club where you can see why.



BIG WINNER!
[15.00000000 BTC]


▄████████████████████▄
██████████████████████
██████████▀▀██████████
█████████░░░░█████████
██████████▄▄██████████
███████▀▀████▀▀███████
██████░░░░██░░░░██████
███████▄▄████▄▄███████
████▀▀████▀▀████▀▀████
███░░░░██░░░░██░░░░███
████▄▄████▄▄████▄▄████
██████████████████████
▀████████████████████▀
▄████████████████████▄
██████████████████████
█████▀▀█▀▀▀▀▀▀██▀▀████
█████░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄███
█████░░░░░░░░░░░░▄████
█████░░▄███▄░░░░██████
█████▄▄███▀░░░░▄██████
█████████░░░░░░███████
████████░░░░░░░███████
███████░░░░░░░░███████
███████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████
██████████████████████
▀████████████████████▀
▄████████████████████▄
███████████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
███████████▀▀▄▄█░░░░░█
█████████▀░░█████░░░░█
███████▀░░░░░████▀░░░▀
██████░░░░░░░░▀▄▄█████
█████░▄░░░░░▄██████▀▀█
████░████▄░███████░░░░
███░█████░█████████░░█
███░░░▀█░██████████░░█
███░░░░░░████▀▀██▀░░░░
███░░░░░░███░░░░░░░░░░
▀██░▄▄▄▄░████▄▄██▄░░░░
▄████████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄
█████████████░█▀▀▀█░███
██████████▀▀░█▀░░░▀█░▀▀
███████▀░▄▄█░█░░░░░█░█▄
████▀░▄▄████░▀█░░░█▀░██
███░▄████▀▀░▄░▀█░█▀░▄░▀
█▀░███▀▀▀░░███░▀█▀░███░
▀░███▀░░░░░████▄░▄████░
░███▀░░░░░░░█████████░░
░███░░░░░░░░░███████░░░
███▀░██░░░░░░▀░▄▄▄░▀░░░
███░██████▄▄░▄█████▄░▄▄
▀██░████████░███████░█▀
▄████████████████████▄
████████▀▀░░░▀▀███████
███▀▀░░░░░▄▄▄░░░░▀▀▀██
██░▀▀▄▄░░░▀▀▀░░░▄▄▀▀██
██░▄▄░░▀▀▄▄░▄▄▀▀░░░░██
██░▀▀░░░░░░█░░░░░██░██
██░░░▄▄░░░░█░██░░░░░██
██░░░▀▀░░░░█░░░░░░░░██
██░░░░░▄▄░░█░░░░░██░██
██▄░░░░▀▀░░█░██░░░░░██
█████▄▄░░░░█░░░░▄▄████
█████████▄▄█▄▄████████
▀████████████████████▀




Rainbot
Daily Quests
Faucet
XMRpromotions
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 336
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 13, 2015, 10:09:35 PM
Last edit: October 13, 2015, 10:25:52 PM by XMRpromotions
 #185

h3 to stop Ng4

those moves are very ineffective. It better to develop. Will post tomorrow a game I just played at the club where you can see why.

I don't see Ng4 as that dangerous (we can just move the queen) but I'm going to vote for h3 because I don't like having to go on the defensive.

I see no point in debating because O-O looks fine and I agree with smooth that Ng4 is not "dangerous". However h3 is also a good move. See this game:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1802118&kpage=3

9.h3 would lead to literally the exact same position. In that game black played 9....Nd7 and 10....Nde5

It is not hard to imagine how h3 could be helpful since Ng4 and Nde5 accomplishes the same thing (as Nd7 and Nde5) and makes white move the queen again. So if any time is "wasted" with h3, time is potentially gained by not having to move the queen in response to Ng4 on its way to e5.

We have a nice center with white. The problem is finding an easy way to develop our pieces to good squares. For example, we would like to play b3 and Bb2 but it is not always so easy for tactical reasons on the long diagonal. Svidler ended up "wasting" a move with Rb1 in a failed attempt to prepare it. We may want to talk about another plan besides Rb1 based on the game linked above.

Don't buy Monero: https://twitter.com/MoneroPromotion/status/746006420508729344

XMR: 43hPTYyKarCTWyh4ZnMVn8AtFeEmtzTXo3Y6TGGMV26BWonJ4tpR7eP9RkUDYQbvg6LbrnMXWfghddE NGtvKxr7B5oML4qd
smooth
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198



View Profile
October 13, 2015, 11:12:06 PM
Last edit: October 13, 2015, 11:26:22 PM by smooth
 #186

h3 to stop Ng4

those moves are very ineffective. It better to develop. Will post tomorrow a game I just played at the club where you can see why.

I don't see Ng4 as that dangerous (we can just move the queen) but I'm going to vote for h3 because I don't like having to go on the defensive.

I see no point in debating because O-O looks fine and I agree with smooth that Ng4 is not "dangerous". However h3 is also a good move. See this game:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1802118&kpage=3

9.h3 would lead to literally the exact same position. In that game black played 9....Nd7 and 10....Nde5

It is not hard to imagine how h3 could be helpful since Ng4 and Nde5 accomplishes the same thing (as Nd7 and Nde5) and makes white move the queen again. So if any time is "wasted" with h3, time is potentially gained by not having to move the queen in response to Ng4 on its way to e5.

We have a nice center with white. The problem is finding an easy way to develop our pieces to good squares. For example, we would like to play b3 and Bb2 but it is not always so easy for tactical reasons on the long diagonal. Svidler ended up "wasting" a move with Rb1 in a failed attempt to prepare it. We may want to talk about another plan besides Rb1 based on the game linked above.

We could just skip Rb1 and just play b3. I don't see where Rb1 is needed, although maybe it helps a deter an attack on that side a bit.

EDIT: Oh, okay the pawn at b2 is protecting the c3 knight from being pinned once black moves the knight (as in above game). Hmm.

boolberry (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 14, 2015, 12:21:34 AM
 #187

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play O-O. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
black to move

1.e4    c5
2.Nf3   d6
3.d4    cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4    Nc6
6.Qe3  g6
7.Nc3  Bg7
8.Be2  Nf6
9.O-O
boolberry (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 14, 2015, 12:38:21 AM
 #188

I vote for Ng4
dre1982
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 770
Merit: 284


★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!


View Profile
October 14, 2015, 06:51:58 AM
 #189

I would play here 0-0. King safety first Cheesy



BIG WINNER!
[15.00000000 BTC]


▄████████████████████▄
██████████████████████
██████████▀▀██████████
█████████░░░░█████████
██████████▄▄██████████
███████▀▀████▀▀███████
██████░░░░██░░░░██████
███████▄▄████▄▄███████
████▀▀████▀▀████▀▀████
███░░░░██░░░░██░░░░███
████▄▄████▄▄████▄▄████
██████████████████████
▀████████████████████▀
▄████████████████████▄
██████████████████████
█████▀▀█▀▀▀▀▀▀██▀▀████
█████░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄███
█████░░░░░░░░░░░░▄████
█████░░▄███▄░░░░██████
█████▄▄███▀░░░░▄██████
█████████░░░░░░███████
████████░░░░░░░███████
███████░░░░░░░░███████
███████▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████
██████████████████████
▀████████████████████▀
▄████████████████████▄
███████████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
███████████▀▀▄▄█░░░░░█
█████████▀░░█████░░░░█
███████▀░░░░░████▀░░░▀
██████░░░░░░░░▀▄▄█████
█████░▄░░░░░▄██████▀▀█
████░████▄░███████░░░░
███░█████░█████████░░█
███░░░▀█░██████████░░█
███░░░░░░████▀▀██▀░░░░
███░░░░░░███░░░░░░░░░░
▀██░▄▄▄▄░████▄▄██▄░░░░
▄████████████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄
█████████████░█▀▀▀█░███
██████████▀▀░█▀░░░▀█░▀▀
███████▀░▄▄█░█░░░░░█░█▄
████▀░▄▄████░▀█░░░█▀░██
███░▄████▀▀░▄░▀█░█▀░▄░▀
█▀░███▀▀▀░░███░▀█▀░███░
▀░███▀░░░░░████▄░▄████░
░███▀░░░░░░░█████████░░
░███░░░░░░░░░███████░░░
███▀░██░░░░░░▀░▄▄▄░▀░░░
███░██████▄▄░▄█████▄░▄▄
▀██░████████░███████░█▀
▄████████████████████▄
████████▀▀░░░▀▀███████
███▀▀░░░░░▄▄▄░░░░▀▀▀██
██░▀▀▄▄░░░▀▀▀░░░▄▄▀▀██
██░▄▄░░▀▀▄▄░▄▄▀▀░░░░██
██░▀▀░░░░░░█░░░░░██░██
██░░░▄▄░░░░█░██░░░░░██
██░░░▀▀░░░░█░░░░░░░░██
██░░░░░▄▄░░█░░░░░██░██
██▄░░░░▀▀░░█░██░░░░░██
█████▄▄░░░░█░░░░▄▄████
█████████▄▄█▄▄████████
▀████████████████████▀




Rainbot
Daily Quests
Faucet
languagehasmeaning
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 336
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 14, 2015, 03:45:56 PM
Last edit: October 14, 2015, 04:02:08 PM by languagehasmeaning
 #190

I would play here 0-0. King safety first Cheesy

O-O
newb4now
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 686
Merit: 500


View Profile
October 14, 2015, 05:22:08 PM
 #191

I would play here 0-0. King safety first Cheesy

O-O

O-O
boolberry (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 15, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
 #192

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play O-O. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
white to move

1.e4    c5
2.Nf3   d6
3.d4    cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4    Nc6
6.Qe3  g6
7.Nc3  Bg7
8.Be2  Nf6
9.O-O O-O
smooth
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198



View Profile
October 15, 2015, 01:24:26 AM
 #193

Rd1
XMRpromotions
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 336
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 15, 2015, 05:01:51 AM
 #194

Rd1

I think d1 is a good square for the rook but I am worried about

10.Rd1 Ng4
depending on where we move our queen Qb6 could a problem because f2 would be weak.

How about 10.h3 now? It will stop both Ng4 and Bg4 for black.

I would love to play 10.b3 but it fails to

10.b3     Nxe4
11.Qxe4 Bxc3

10.b3     Nxe4
11.Nxe4  Bxa1

My second favorite move after 10.h3 is probably 10.Nd5

Don't buy Monero: https://twitter.com/MoneroPromotion/status/746006420508729344

XMR: 43hPTYyKarCTWyh4ZnMVn8AtFeEmtzTXo3Y6TGGMV26BWonJ4tpR7eP9RkUDYQbvg6LbrnMXWfghddE NGtvKxr7B5oML4qd
LucyLovesCrypto
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 414
Merit: 251


View Profile
October 15, 2015, 06:21:22 AM
 #195

Nd5
ArticMine
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2282
Merit: 1050


Monero Core Team


View Profile
October 15, 2015, 06:34:38 AM
 #196

My vote is for h3. On Rd1 there is Ng4 followed by Qb6 with f2 becoming a problem. I also do not like Nd5 since it allows Ng4.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
LucyLovesCrypto
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 414
Merit: 251


View Profile
October 15, 2015, 06:53:15 AM
 #197

My vote is for h3. On Rd1 there is Ng4 followed by Qb6 with f2 becoming a problem. I also do not like Nd5 since it allows Ng4.

I would like to change my vote to h3 instead of Nd5.
smooth
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198



View Profile
October 15, 2015, 07:08:11 AM
 #198

Well I voted for h3 last time, it's certainly not a bad move. I'll leave my vote as I feel we can successfully move the queen after Ng4 but we will probably move h3 and I'm happy with that.
Febo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2730
Merit: 1288



View Profile
October 15, 2015, 11:22:36 AM
 #199

h3 , they already showed they could move horse.
boolberry (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 16, 2015, 12:36:20 AM
 #200

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play h3. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

Team Monero (white pieces) vs. Team Boolberry (black pieces)
black to move

1.e4    c5
2.Nf3   d6
3.d4    cxd4
4.Qxd4 a6
5.c4    Nc6
6.Qe3  g6
7.Nc3  Bg7
8.Be2  Nf6
9.O-O O-O
10.h3
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 ... 64 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!