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September 30, 2015, 12:59:59 AM
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look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??
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September 30, 2015, 01:04:19 AM
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look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.

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September 30, 2015, 01:12:23 AM
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I suggest you sign a message from this address 1Gbiv7bC37xnQrdvbZzPFTHCzmqkfKGJnz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948752.msg10388096#msg10388096) to prove you own this account and show to them. Then they will have no reasons to still keep your negative feedback.
One question to ask: how did you get back your account from the hacker? Probably the one who helped you can clarify for you here.

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September 30, 2015, 01:13:20 AM
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look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

You are responsible for the actions of your account, whether it was hacked or not.
In any case, the only thing you can do is take up your case with Shorena and Jonald individually. There is no point in raising a thread in Meta.
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September 30, 2015, 01:13:30 AM
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I suggest you sign a message from this address 1Gbiv7bC37xnQrdvbZzPFTHCzmqkfKGJnz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948752.msg10388096#msg10388096) to prove you own this account and show to them. Then they will have no reasons to still keep your negative feedback.

How would that prove he didn't fake his account being hacked?  It won't.

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September 30, 2015, 01:18:36 AM
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look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.

give me proofs im not hacked! im ratted and i know it because i found posts not mine. ask admin for ip login history i swear.
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September 30, 2015, 01:19:32 AM
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I suggest you sign a message from this address 1Gbiv7bC37xnQrdvbZzPFTHCzmqkfKGJnz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=948752.msg10388096#msg10388096) to prove you own this account and show to them. Then they will have no reasons to still keep your negative feedback.

How would that prove he didn't fake his account being hacked?  It won't.
Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.
check here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147887.0
The hackers were doing stupid things.

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September 30, 2015, 01:19:36 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


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This smells like a Quickseller troll thread to me LOL
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September 30, 2015, 01:20:00 AM
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look at mine trust. im ask the givers to go and remove it. im hacked and hacker tried to loan, but hacker fails and 0 bitcoin loaned out. i pm shorena and jonald but they dnt respond at all.

innocent until proven guilty rite?? what happen to this, y am i look like a scammer when i was ratted and not realize it, and now recovered acc??

Prove to us that your account was hacked by a hacker who then tried to take a loan. There is absolutely no other way you can get rid of the negative ratings otherwise. I hate to break it to you but you have a very small chance of restoring your trust here since it's hard to prove your account was hacked.

give me proofs im not hacked! im ratted and i know it because i found posts not mine. ask admin for ip login history i swear.

No, that's not how it works around here. You give us proof that your account was hacked during that time period. IP login history will prove nothing because of three letters: VPN. It's easy to change IPs.

check here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147887.0
The hackers were doing stupid things.

That's not proving anything. The OP could have easily done that himself and then decided to try and pretend it wasn't him.

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September 30, 2015, 01:20:31 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof
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September 30, 2015, 01:23:30 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof


So you bought an account (per QS) and the first thing you do is try to take out a loan.

Let's see if you will tell the truth.

Did you recently buy this account?


~BCX~
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September 30, 2015, 01:25:41 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof


So you bought an account (per QS) and the first thing you do is try to take out a loan.

Let's see if you will tell the truth.

Did you recently buy this account?


~BCX~

i think that either u have a short memory span, or u just cant read.
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September 30, 2015, 01:26:02 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof
You should know how to protect your account from hacking and keep the associated btc address's private key safe. Every one should have learnt those knowledges including you. Don't keeping explaining and complaining. It does nothing good to you. If you originally own this account or buy this account, you should provide proof.

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September 30, 2015, 01:27:32 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof
You should know how to protect your account from hacking and keep the associated btc address's private key safe. Every one should have learnt those knowledges including you. Don't keeping explaining and complaining. It does nothing good to you.

then how do i get trust removed? my pass is long and my pc is clean!
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September 30, 2015, 01:28:18 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof


So you bought an account (per QS) and the first thing you do is try to take out a loan.

Let's see if you will tell the truth.

Did you recently buy this account?


~BCX~

i think that either u have a short memory span, or u just cant read.

Just answer the question, did you or did you not recently buy this account.


~BCX~


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September 30, 2015, 01:29:38 AM
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Major Hint for Scammers: Don't scam from any account you don't want negged into oblivion.


You got caught, deal with it.


~BCX~

proofs? you heros and legends always talk about proofs, but when its ur turn to say smthing u dont give no proof
You should know how to protect your account from hacking and keep the associated btc address's private key safe. Every one should have learnt those knowledges including you. Don't keeping explaining and complaining. It does nothing good to you.

then how do i get trust removed? my pass is long and my pc is clean!
You claimed you own this account, doesn't it? At first signing a message for us!

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September 30, 2015, 01:31:33 AM
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Basically, OP, you need to do two things.

1) Prove that that account was not bought by you recently. You can do this by signing a message.

2) Prove that the account was indeed hacked with something other than IP logs.

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I'm not sure why people think the trust system falls under the UN declaration of human rights.
I'm also not sure why people value their trust so much.
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Basically, OP, you need to do two things.

1) Prove that that account was not bought by you recently. You can do this by signing a message.

2) Prove that the account was indeed hacked with something other than IP logs.

Even signing does not do a whole lot as (i could be wrong) but it does not appear OP ever lost control of account.  All signing will prove is that account was not purchased since then.   So it would help his case some but in no way prove a hack.  Did OP have to get account reclaimed from hacker and I just missed it?

If OP never lost account during time period I see it as very unlikely a hacked account would keep same password and not change it.   Op really needs to show he lost control of account.  Which is going to be hard.   IP is easily faked with proxy's.  

OP I think your only shot is talking to people who left negative.  And it's a small chance it's removed.  Asking for a loan without collateral is pretty much guaranteed neg trust.  
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September 30, 2015, 02:13:56 AM
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I'm not sure why people think the trust system falls under the UN declaration of human rights.
I'm also not sure why people value their trust so much.
Because trust is based on the public opinion to the accounts. A high trusted account provides a lot of benefits for the owners, who will be easily doing business and trads with others in here. So every one dreams to have a high reputational account. So the value of them often goes very high.

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