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May 14, 2016, 05:05:31 PM
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I've thought of a way to radically improve CoinJoin so that Dash could leapfrog Monero in performance and anonymity very quickly and bring it to ....

Wow, if this really is the real anonymint then that is a big swing around right there.... didn't see that coming did we.
Tough times really do call for tough decisions. You should name your price ...anything less than 100BTC for a clear lead over their competition is not worth it for you. Will be worth way more than that to your own project if you can afford to wait. Depending on how big a deal this really is.


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I've thought of a way to radically improve CoinJoin so that Dash could leapfrog Monero in performance and anonymity very quickly and bring it to ....

Wow, if this really is the real anonymint then that is a big swing around right there.... didn't see that coming did we.
Tough times really do call for tough decisions. You should name your price ...anything less than 100BTC for a clear lead over their competition is not worth it for you. Will be worth way more than that to your own project if you can afford to wait. Depending on how big a deal this really is.



wow indeed... LOL...

well i guess he can make white paper and a proposal on Dash network ?

EDIT:: false alarm LOL...

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May 14, 2016, 05:14:12 PM
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I've thought of a way to radically improve CoinJoin so that Dash could leapfrog Monero in performance and anonymity very quickly and bring it to ....

Wow, if this really is the real anonymint then that is a big swing around right there.... didn't see that coming did we.
Tough times really do call for tough decisions. You should name your price ...anything less than 100BTC for a clear lead over their competition is not worth it for you. Will be worth way more than that to your own project if you can afford to wait. Depending on how big a deal this really is.



wow indeed... LOL...

well i guess he can make white paper and a proposal on Dash network ?

Is it really him after all that has been said and done? where did the post go?

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February 16, 2018, 07:56:53 AM
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https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-19-2015.6429/
The picture is getting a little bit more clear :

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What about Dash Evolution?

The reason we’re being quiet about the capabilities of Dash Evolution is we want to buy some time to work on it privately. By the time everyone realizes what we’re making, we’ll be so far along this path,
that no group will be able to implement it fast enough to launch this system before us. Dash Evolution includes many components of what we believe is the perfect platform for growing a new decentralized
economy, built around pure peer-to-peer commerce.

What do we know about Evolution so far?



Evolution is a completely different way of thinking about cryptographic currency. To start, we’ve figured out how to implement an API in such a way that it’s both completely secure and decentralized.
This will allow us to use 5-20 DASH random sub-quorum servers per request, instead of all of them as is the norm with the rest of the cryptographic currencies (each node must process each request individually).
That alone gives us a large leap in technological abilities that none of our competitors have, but combined with our decentralized storage mechanism we can enable large scale support of user-based storage.
This means our users data will live on the network and they can jump from their android Dash wallet, to a browser-based Dash wallet without losing information about their transaction histories, friends or private messages.

Technical details of the system are quite impressive alone, which is what we revealed at Bitcoin Wednesday in Amsterdam. However, that’s not really what is going to sell the system. We’re going to compete by making a new
type of cryptographic currency that is user-focused.

All components of cryptographic currency are being rethought.This is intended to be a platform that the rest of the world can use without being scared away by all of the
complicated cryptography happening behind the scenes. When a transaction comes into your wallet, it will say “Evan sent you 41DASH for Samsung 2005 TV”, not “41DASH from XrWaFt4YY3AevBoZWkmrQEYSAYwiUFodtB”.
The later scares away a large percentage of the population, because it looks complex and feels unsafe.

If we told everyone within the community every detail, we would steal our own momentum, so we’re going to show a proof of concept of this system in action at Bitcoin Miami. This is quite exciting because this is one
of the largest most influential conferences within the Bitcoin ecosystem and we hope to ignite a lot of interest.

DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding. All requests through the system can be blinded, so that they are redirected through the system to a masternode that doesn’t have any direct
contact with the end user. This is the reason we will not be building masternode-blinding into the v12 client.

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Timeline and Milestones

The fact of the matter is that the outside overall community doesn’t have much of an understanding of the Dash project in it’s present state. Our website and pr strategy up to this point has been mostly
to cater to those already in the community. We’re going to retarget our strategy and build a website and pr strategy that is targeted at those outside of the community.
Many of us on the team have experience building companies and marketing to new users, we’re going to utilize this experience over the next few years to bring many new users into our space.

Even without Evolution, we would have done fantastic over the next few years due to Darksend, InstantX, Decentralized Governance and Budgeting and our Virtual Corporation. So we believe it’s key to get this
information about what the Dash project currently is, out in the open and well understood. This means, we actually have a nice window to develop Dash Evolution and we’re not in a hurry to launch it.
In fact, it’s to our benefit to make sure that Dash Evolution is absolutely perfect when we launch.

Milestones

Public Awareness - Phase I  - October 1st, 2015

Utilize the budget system to spread information about the Dash project all over the world. Hit as many conferences as possible, educate people if possible to understand the more technical aspects of Dash so they
can explain it to others.

Start designing a website and portal for all Dash related information to live.

Dash Evolution Development Begins  - October 15th, 2015

I will begin work on the new Dash Evolution framework. This consists of the basic architecture, classes and simply functionality that runs the system.

New Website - January 8th, 2016

The new website will be designed to be the place to go to keep up with Dash, get initiated with our project originally and keep up to date about everything happening in the network as well.
It will also be designed with converting new users into our ecosystem in mind.

Dash Evolution Phase II  - November 7th, 2015

Private internal development will begin on the Dash Evolution framework.

Dash Evolution Demonstration / Phase III - January 21 and/or 22, 2016*


We will demonstrate what our new technology is about, how it works and why it’s a huge leap ahead of anything else that exists presently.

Marketing & Sales Funnels  - February 1st, 2016**

We’re working with some companies to enhance our new-user experience to improve the way they flow through the system to get into our ecosystem.
By February the community should start seeing how all of this works for us.

* qwizzie : this should be the correct dates of the Miami Bitcoin Event in January 2016

** qwizzie : small correction in date



What happened to the "Dash Evolution Demonstration" which we were told would happen at  the Miami Bitcoin Event in January 2016?

That was over two years ago.  Since then we have seen absolutely nothing concrete regarding Dash EvoluSHAM.  Not a single line of code.  Not even a whitepaper.

Let me be clear.  Dash Evolution is a sham.  There is no evidence to the contrary.  And no (sorry Dash PaidShills), regurgitating the hand-waving blue-sky promises and entreaties of the overpaid and demonstrably incompetent DashCoreGroup does *NOT* count as concrete evidence they have made actual concrete progress towards EvoluSHAM deliverables.


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February 26, 2018, 12:59:41 AM
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Disclosure of Dash Evolution : https://www.dash.org/evolution/



Dash Evolution creates a new type of cryptographic currency with various advanced features that assist in the creation of decentralized technology. Dash introduces a tiered network design, which allows users to do various jobs for the network, along with decentralized API access and a decentralized file system.

We will be writing the software for this project in stages, the first stage will take about 2 months to have a very early prototype for Dash Evolution that includes a basic implementation of DashDrive, Primitives, DAPI and a simple T3 wallet. In six to eight months, we should be entering testnet phase with most basic functionality. In 12-18 months, we plan for the first release version (a stable prototype).

Included below is our current work on Evolution, that adds many components such as:

• DashDrive – A decentralized shared file system that lives on the second tier network
• DAPI – A decentralized API which allows third tier users to access the network securely
• DashPay Decentralized Wallets – These wallets are light clients connected to the network via DAPI and run on various platforms
• Second Tier – The masternode network, which provides compensated infrastructure for the project
• Budgets – The second tier is given voting power to allocate funds for specific projects on the network via the budget system
• Governance – The second tier is given voting power to govern the currency and chart the course the currency takes
• Quorum Chain – This feature introduces a permanent stable masternode list, which can be used to calculate past and present quorums
• Primitives – We introduce Users, Groups and Accounts which allow a common way of interacting with the network.
• Social Wallet – By utilizing primitives, we introduce a social wallet, which allows friends lists, grouping of users and shared accounts.
• DSQL – A query language for administering the network via majority quorums (banning users, setting important network variables such as sporks on/off, etc)

Evolution Documentation Release

We’re going to try something different with the development of Dash Evolution. This is a social experiment on building an entire currency completely in the open, with extreme transparency, as such, things will change constantly. This is intended to be an open discovery process that helps us to create the best possible implementation, GUI and feature set for Dash Evolution.  Help us to flesh out these documents by editing, correcting or even coming up with new ideas that we could work into the system.

The documentation below is intended to be very high level, which should give a clear understanding of how to build and secure such a system. These aren’t really intended to be whitepapers, just simple technical documents showing the design choices and structures.

Many of these documents are outlines of ideas of how different pieces of Dash Evolution will work, they aren’t complete, feel free to add to these as well. To help us, simply click the “EDIT” button, then request access to the given documents. Please do not edit the documents directly, instead use the google docs “Suggest” feature. This is intended to be an open discussion of the technology in the documents, that will evolve with the project.

Thanks!

Evan Duffield



We will be releasing many more documents not here yet in the near future, please keep coming back to see updates and progress of Evolution.

Releases: Last Updated – December 4th, 2015



Let's see... no product released, no routing, no Masternode blinding, no Layer 2 solutions, still talking about tests and DIPs, a roadmap and github that are as vaporous as the project they rest with.

Trading check: volume dropped significantly, falling out of the Top 10 due to concerns about the non-utility of the overpaid Dash Core Devs to the project (i.e., there isn't a product released and this thing is no better than a whitepaper bedroom startup. I mean it should be better - you have guys here who are for-real programmers and creators, thinkers; but in evidence, this is operating in a manner becoming a scam).

I go over to the Dash forums ... same conversations about speedy development (men are most vain about the thing that troubles them the most), stretch goals, incredible development towards stated goals, more discussions, closing in on objectives, robust strong team, an expanding team, a team that recently have been doing better and better, 'getting the word out,' getting that messaging happening, process, diligence, meetings, roundtable discussions, useless Quarterly Updates from centralized governance admins, rain panchos, Max Keiser travelogues, sponsoring human cockfighting and air shows, crying about Amanda's Dear Dash letter...


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June 20, 2018, 03:26:26 AM
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https://dashtalk.org/threads/development-update-oct-19-2015.6429/

What about Dash Evolution?

The reason we’re being quiet about the capabilities of Dash Evolution is we want to buy some time to work on it privately. By the time everyone realizes what we’re making, we’ll be so far along this path, that no group will be able to implement it fast enough to launch this system before us.

DAPI will also include a vastly improved version of masternode blinding. All requests through the system can be blinded, so that they are redirected through the system to a masternode that doesn’t have any direct contact with the end user. This is the reason we will not be building masternode-blinding into the v12 client.

In fact, it’s to our benefit to make sure that Dash Evolution is absolutely perfect when we launch.


This post hasn't aged well.

The reason Dash was being quiet about Evolution is that fulfilling all of Evan's ancient 2015 promises about masternode blinding, smart contracts, and other cyberpunk vaporware turned out to be beyond the third-rate skill set of Dash's devs.

Where is Tao to hector you about the unsupported speculation in your boisterous claim "by the time everyone realizes what we’re making, we’ll be so far along this path, that no group will be able to implement it fast enough to launch this system before us?"

Your unsupported speculation hasn't aged well and if Tao enforced his rules equally you would not longer be permitted to make it on Dash.org or other forums he controls.

Perhaps I'm not giving you enough credit for managing to get paid so much to produce so little.  After all, your excuse of "it's to our benefit to make sure Dash Evolution is absolutely perfect when we launch" is the (absolutely) perfect way to ensure Dash Evolution will NEVER be launched, so you keep getting paid to look busy while Evolution asymtotically approaches absolute perfection as time approaches infinity...  Cheesy


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