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August 31, 2018, 04:48:44 PM
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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Yeah didn't notice that too.
But Carter may have been resting much than playing. This guys bones are getting weaker so they really need much of a rest and cannot do much of the running anymore. They still have the skill, but stamina will kill them. Grin

If only Carter did not get that injury. He might have been a great player by now with rings on his fingers.

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August 31, 2018, 05:51:54 PM
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Derozan only has danny green he needs to surpass from last year, the rest is still the same. People think derozan will not contribute as much as kawhi but people are also forgetting two things, first of all kawhi didn't contributed at all last year and spurs went to playoffs anyway and two kawhi got injured and seems not that alright in the mind, so we don't know if kawhi is still that same kawhi.

Hence derozan can absolutely not be an upset, whatever he provides is definitely better than what danny green could do and I am sure it will be a lot more. No one expects a "championship bringer" type player but anything more than role player is great.

Honestly I don't undestand why other people thinks that DeRozan will be a disappointment to the Spurs fan? How come? DeRozan is more of a role player than being a superstar. In Raptors, he is not the only who do ISO plays and we saw how well their ball rotation is. Meaning he is not always the main man of their offense. Spurs system is always like that much especially they played with no main man last season so surely DeRozan will adopt easily the Pop's system in Spurs.

I see Raptors should have to make more adjustmenst with Kawhi than DeRozan with the Spurs.

Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Yeah didn't notice that too.
But Carter may have been resting much than playing. This guys bones are getting weaker so they really need much of a rest and cannot do much of the running anymore. They still have the skill, but stamina will kill them. Grin

If only Carter did not get that injury. He might have been a great player by now with rings on his fingers.

Vince Carter is more of an instructor now than a player. I don't know why he still plays. If he want championship, he can easily request on it on a competitive team as he will not harm the cap space but he is not aggressive on that for many years. Maybe getting more $$$ before retirement. Smiley He earned $8M last year with the Kings and $2.4M contract this season with the Hawk. That was a decent one for a veteran and no need to played more minutes on the court.

Dirk Nowitzki I believed wants to retire now but he is closed in getting another record, to surpass Wilt Chamberlain in NBA All-Time Scoring. Currently he has 31,183 pts and Wilt has 31,419. It's now within his reached and this season is enough period to reached the goal.

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August 31, 2018, 07:59:52 PM
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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

LMAO, I know that you still remember Vince Carter Slam Dunk in 2000 mate. That's 18 freaking years ago.. So we are definitely getting older as well.  Grin. Dirk on the other hand is inching closer to Wilt record plus he only missed a couple of games I think last season so definitely he is not retiring.

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September 01, 2018, 02:42:30 AM
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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Yeah didn't notice that too.
But Carter may have been resting much than playing. This guys bones are getting weaker so they really need much of a rest and cannot do much of the running anymore. They still have the skill, but stamina will kill them. Grin

If only Carter did not get that injury. He might have been a great player by now with rings on his fingers.
With his age and previous injuries, yes it's convincing that he's playing only for money now, or because of his love from this game, old players can influence rookies using their leadership and passed experiences, they can bring more motivations though they can't deliver much or can't help lifting the team physically but more on boosting their mentallity to love the game and show what they've got for this league.
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September 01, 2018, 06:18:07 AM
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~snip~
I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Yeah didn't notice that too.
But Carter may have been resting much than playing. This guys bones are getting weaker so they really need much of a rest and cannot do much of the running anymore. They still have the skill, but stamina will kill them. Grin

If only Carter did not get that injury. He might have been a great player by now with rings on his fingers.
With his age and previous injuries, yes it's convincing that he's playing only for money now, or because of his love from this game, old players can influence rookies using their leadership and passed experiences, they can bring more motivations though they can't deliver much or can't help lifting the team physically but more on boosting their mentallity to love the game and show what they've got for this league.
As long as there are teams that will sign them they will still play because who would refuse money.
No doubts these guys are legend but you cannot be in the position all the time, people are getting older and the young once will replace them.

 
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September 01, 2018, 10:27:16 AM
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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

LMAO, I know that you still remember Vince Carter Slam Dunk in 2000 mate. That's 18 freaking years ago.. So we are definitely getting older as well.  Grin. Dirk on the other hand is inching closer to Wilt record plus he only missed a couple of games I think last season so definitely he is not retiring.

Dirk had extended his contract to 1 year, probably he's just testing his capabilities to go against the youngins in the league today. As we all know, the era he had when he was in his prime was completely different than today's. Player has evolved, when dont see as many centers who can shoot 3's before than today.

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September 01, 2018, 10:58:37 AM
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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Manu Ginobili got his retirement and now we are talking about Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter? This feels sad man, not only because they are retiring but they are one of the known and popular players in the time and I am feeling so old now. The dunks of Vince Carter, the Dirk shot of Nowitzki, man, that will be a legacy. In fact the shot of Dirk Nowitzki are being carried not by a lot of superstars at NBA.

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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

LMAO, I know that you still remember Vince Carter Slam Dunk in 2000 mate. That's 18 freaking years ago.. So we are definitely getting older as well.  Grin. Dirk on the other hand is inching closer to Wilt record plus he only missed a couple of games I think last season so definitely he is not retiring.

Dirk had extended his contract to 1 year, probably he's just testing his capabilities to go against the youngins in the league today. As we all know, the era he had when he was in his prime was completely different than today's. Player has evolved, when dont see as many centers who can shoot 3's before than today.

Yeah, most probably, but if we are going to based from his last years performance, he remains healthy so we hope that he can continue and breaks Chamberlain record before finally retiring. Yes players evolved, he is one of the pioneers back in the days wherein a big guy can shoot 3's. A good read for all Dirk fans:

https://247sports.com/nba/mavericks/Article/LEGACY-The-20-Most-Important-Games-of-Dirk-Nowitzkis-20-Year-Dallas-Mavericks-Career-Part-I-108789192/

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September 01, 2018, 10:55:50 PM
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Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.

It's only normal for players to retire. With what West has erformed in his last season, we see that he cannot keep up the pace of the new era of basketball. He cannot keep up with a fast paced game which only slows down the offense of his team. Eventhough he is still as effective as before, but his effectiveness fall short in the endgame. It's better to retire with a ring than retire due to injury.

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I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

Yeah didn't notice that too.
But Carter may have been resting much than playing. This guys bones are getting weaker so they really need much of a rest and cannot do much of the running anymore. They still have the skill, but stamina will kill them. Grin

If only Carter did not get that injury. He might have been a great player by now with rings on his fingers.
Remember the time when I was still a kid and most of my playmates are imitating and calling their moves as Carter's.

Time comes when a great player needs to rest and retire and this will come also to the current superstars that we are all admiring today, let's move on to another discussion.

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September 02, 2018, 04:52:53 AM
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Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.

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September 02, 2018, 06:28:40 AM
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Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.
He just want championship, actually he accept a lower salary just to play with the warriors.
This guy is really tough but I don't like players who join a super team just to be champion easily, that is just my opinion but in overall, west is a tough player.

 
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September 02, 2018, 06:49:21 AM
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~snip~
I'm not a fan of him but whenever there are old timers that are announcing their retirements I'm also thinking that I'm getting old. Too many legends are going to be added to the list as well. I don't want to see any more of these retirements.

Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter are I think the next ones. They aren't veteran. They are now oldies lol. 40+ age.
Oh boy my boys Dirk Nowitzki and Vince Carter I forgot that they are still playing and I've heard that Vince is playing for his last season, this year. Man, we are growing old and these prime superstars are also retiring soon.

LMAO, I know that you still remember Vince Carter Slam Dunk in 2000 mate. That's 18 freaking years ago.. So we are definitely getting older as well.  Grin. Dirk on the other hand is inching closer to Wilt record plus he only missed a couple of games I think last season so definitely he is not retiring.

Dirk had extended his contract to 1 year, probably he's just testing his capabilities to go against the youngins in the league today. As we all know, the era he had when he was in his prime was completely different than today's. Player has evolved, when dont see as many centers who can shoot 3's before than today.

Yes we are getting older too harizen. Grin

As of centers or forwards who have good shooting range like Dirk it will be Aldridge and Porzingis at my vote.

This two are almost copying the way Dirk shoots the ball. Step backs and the most known Dirk shot fade away with just a tip toe. It is still working but with players with just height advantages and long reach. If they can perfect it then maybe they could end up the same with Dirk getting a championship.

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September 02, 2018, 02:21:56 PM
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Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.
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September 02, 2018, 03:06:12 PM
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Another veteran retirement.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/david-west-retires-nba-news-pacers-warriors-spurs-pelicans-hornets-xavier/h7rilycrr0tm1s33l1iow511q]David West retires after 15 NBA seasons

One of the good backup player of the Golden State Warriors. These guy have an overall 4 teams he played on his whole career and got 2 rings in his final 2 season with the Golden State Warriors (2016–2018). Unlike other players who earned their rings without effort*, we all know that West contributes much in Warriors so I will say that he really deserved those rings.

With the retirement of West, I think only 6 or 7 players remained now to that famous 2003-04 draft that is actively playing until now. If Im not mistaken.
West has become an all star player when he is on the Pacers. I remember the time when the Pacers team composed of West, PG, Hill, Hibbert etc. They are a good team and can compete against the Heat where James, Wade and Bosh are there.

I think West has fulfilled what he has to fulfill. Contribute to the team and have championship but I didnt expect that he will retire now since he can contribute his vetetan experience in Warriors.

Yeah but you will noticed that he is a bit tad slow with the rest of the GSW and the rest of the NBA. Perhaps its really up for him to retire and maybe getting another last year with the final straw to finished his long career. He got want he wanted as a GSW so its time for him to hang his jersey.

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September 02, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
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Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

It's impressive how long Dirk and Vince Cater have been able to play.  You don't see many 40 year olds with the athleticism that Vince Carter still has.  VC's own cousin Tracy Mcgrady had to retire at the age of 34 and Kobe Bryant could barely even make it up and down the court at age 37.  Carter is a true genetic freak, I've seen some amazing highlights of him still dunking at age 40.
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September 02, 2018, 03:45:52 PM
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Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.

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September 03, 2018, 01:20:30 AM
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Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.

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September 03, 2018, 01:31:23 PM
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Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.

Ok you got a point there.
But look, Ginobili extended hie game time also and everybody thought he was already retiring last year but didnt.
I guess one player knows his limitation and this includes Carter and Dirk.

If they feel they still have the strength to do it then why not. They are enjoying basketball and it is a good thing. Unlike who just there for money.

Dirk also might have a goal for breaking history.
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September 03, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
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Dirk could have retired like two years ago, he is not making any big difference to mavs roster and he is only playing because that dude brought a championship to mavs almost all by himself.

During the era of multiple superstars getting together to win, remembering the time dirk and some role players won it really brings a lot more meaning to that championship, but he is playing only because of that rings worth, otherwise he would have been already forced to cut with the way he plays. Vince as well, both of them are not contributing to their teams like they used to, they are just playing because they were once amazing players.

That is not true.
They are a good reminder for young players that they also could be stars.
One more thing is they could share their experiences from all that years they have played just like a coach.
It is not a bad thing to have a veteran on one team. It is actually a good one.
Sharing their ideas and also plays that they have been thru from clinch moments.
But we should weigh his contribution to the team, remember that being in a team means expenses on the part of the team.
If he can only provide such inspiration, I think it's not worth on the amount the team is paying him, I hope you get what I mean, I just feel
when you are old and do not deliver as expected, you should retire and give newcomers a chance.

Ok you got a point there.
But look, Ginobili extended hie game time also and everybody thought he was already retiring last year but didnt.
I guess one player knows his limitation and this includes Carter and Dirk.

If they feel they still have the strength to do it then why not. They are enjoying basketball and it is a good thing. Unlike who just there for money.

Dirk also might have a goal for breaking history.
Credits to harizen.

Yeah and i don't think his inspiration should be undermined since it does boost a team's morale more than anything. And he can stil deliver when called on that's for sure. Greats like dirk and manu know when a team still has a use for them and if dirk feels he can still contribute, then i think he has the team's full support.

 
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