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December 03, 2019, 03:25:33 PM
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but what I see is that it's the coaching staff problem, they know that the game plan of the Raptors are to trap Giannis but they didn't adjust, so they loss in the next 4 games after they were up 2-0.

It is Antetokounmpo's weakness and I do not think the coaching staff can do something about it in a short period of time. That same weakness was used against Greece in FIBA World this year. The good thing is that Giannis recognizes that weakness and working on it. You can see it in his attempts on the outside and 3 points shots.



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December 03, 2019, 03:57:23 PM
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Guys,

What do you think about

Wizards vs Clippers game tonight?

Clippers are the clear favorite, but I plan to play it on +8 @ 2.90.IMO it's worth the risk at that odds.


Clippers won again even with the handicap. It might not really be a good offer at all.

Next will be against Portland. This might a better chance for risking your money.
I might bet with Portland if they would put a good addition for them.
They are on a 3 game winning streak now and I think they still have the winning aura if they will face against the Clippers.
Melo is on fire now. It is just a slow start but he is gaining his phase. Double double against the Bulls.

However, you should not bet against Kawhi and Paul George together in home court. I reckon wait for load management news hehehe. There might be one because they are playing the Bucks on the road after Portland.

I get that. They win without PG13 and now they got more stronger.
Maybe there are other ways to win a bet against this team.
+20 maybe, and the chances are when the garbage team suddenly didn't play well preserving the lead.  Grin
That is all I can really think of for now. But they might not give a large prize for that.

How about the Lakers? Betting line is a win even with just low +? First it was the Pelican who lost with just a 4 point lead considering young guns are playing there.
Then suddenly, Mavericks won against them taking out their winning streak.

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December 03, 2019, 04:05:31 PM
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The Bucks now is leading the league in most wins this season. Though only up by 1 win against the Lakers, I think they have in the good position to be considered as top contender for the championship. That is if they don't choke in the playoffs.

Despite all this, i doubt that we can consider Bucks to be main contenders. I set them in the finals tho, for that they are certiainly main favorite in the East conference. Overall, for me Clippers and Lakers are the main contenders, and whoever if those 2 wins west conference will win the title as well.

But of course, all this can be easily changed in case of some injuries, we saw last year how that can mess you up.

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December 03, 2019, 05:22:42 PM
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East once again sucks in my eye, Raptors managed to win the championship last season all thanks to many injuries but this season I feel like nobody on east is powerful enough to beat anyone on the west even with injuries. Bucks have Giannis and a great system (Coach Bud has been primed under Pop and improved at Hawks, he is a perfect coach for a team like Bucks) but in the end Clippers/Lakers and even Rockets are waaaay too powerful against Bucks. Them being so high on the list all due to scheduling and how east teams play mostly east teams whereas west teams play west.

The only shocking thing so far to me is Dallas keeping up so good, I mean we all know Porzingis and Doncic would have been amazing together but didn't expected them to mesh so well together on the first ever year together.

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December 03, 2019, 07:17:56 PM
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but what I see is that it's the coaching staff problem, they know that the game plan of the Raptors are to trap Giannis but they didn't adjust, so they loss in the next 4 games after they were up 2-0.

It is Antetokounmpo's weakness and I do not think the coaching staff can do something about it in a short period of time. That same weakness was used against Greece in FIBA World this year. The good thing is that Giannis recognizes that weakness and working on it. You can see it in his attempts on the outside and 3 points shots.

If this man would able to patch up those weakness then no doubt he's already unstoppable.When it comes to paint scoring then theres no problem on that but for outside and specially with freethrows you can actually see on whats lacking. 


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December 03, 2019, 07:40:24 PM
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but what I see is that it's the coaching staff problem, they know that the game plan of the Raptors are to trap Giannis but they didn't adjust, so they loss in the next 4 games after they were up 2-0. it's not cool to remember what happened as I bet on the Bucks to win that series, it was the hype that made me think they can handle the Raptors but in the end I was wrong, that 2-0 I was already celebrating a bit, but was wrong.  Angry

Milwaukee Bucks adjust mate. It's just that Raptors, who also made some adjustments after being down by 0-2, able to match their adjustment. Not to blame the Bucks but Raptors are really good on that series.

Raptors not just successfully contained and slow down Giannis but the whole Milwaukee Bucks. Look at Raptors defensive stats on that series, they really owned the Bucks in terms of anything. Bucks already knows that defense will be focused on Giannis but it turned out that Raptors not just focus on him but think of a way to slow down other gunners e.g Middleton, Brogdon, Bledsoe, etc.



If this man would able to patch up those weakness then no doubt he's already unstoppable.When it comes to paint scoring then theres no problem on that but for outside and specially with freethrows you can actually see on whats lacking.  

Because that's not his usual gameplay. He focuses on something that he is used to and that's effective. Also, the reason why he is popular today and able to grab the last year's season MVP.  It's just that there are really cases where there a team who can think of a plan on how to slow him down.

He is working on his perimeter shooting as part of the adjustment. I do amazed at him that he is now taking lots of jump shots now. But for me, no need to focus on that much if he sees he can always penetrate on defense during a certain match. Let his teammates fill the gaps and just do that adjustment when necessary.

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December 03, 2019, 07:53:44 PM
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If this man would able to patch up those weakness then no doubt he's already unstoppable.When it comes to paint scoring then theres no problem on that but for outside and specially with freethrows you can actually see on whats lacking.  

Because that's not his usual gameplay. He focuses on something that he is used to and that's effective. Also, the reason why he is popular today and able to grab the last year's season MVP.  It's just that there are really cases where there a team who can think of a plan on how to slow him down.

He is working on his perimeter shooting as part of the adjustment. I do amazed at him that he is now taking lots of jump shots now. But for me, no need to focus on that much if he sees he can always penetrate on defense during a certain match. Let his teammates fill the gaps and just do that adjustment when necessary.
Yep, i agree on that line which its not his usual gameplay and come to think that this guy is still 24 years old where theres soo much time to improve even more.
Versatility in all possible positions is what i like to see. Each player has its own strength and weakness though but i wont be surprised if he would become the next LBJ on next years to come.

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December 03, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
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Despite all this, i doubt that we can consider Bucks to be main contenders. I set them in the finals tho, for that they are certiainly main favorite in the East conference. Overall, for me Clippers and Lakers are the main contenders, and whoever if those 2 wins west conference will win the title as well.

But of course, all this can be easily changed in case of some injuries, we saw last year how that can mess you up.

Injury is part of the game that is why you can see some teams try to rest their stars when the playoffs are near.

Despite all this, i doubt that we can consider Bucks to be main contenders. I set them in the finals tho, for that they are certiainly main favorite in the East conference. Overall, for me Clippers and Lakers are the main contenders, and whoever if those 2 wins west conference will win the title as well.
I think it will either be celtics or bucks for Eastern Conference. And even though LA teams have the biggest advantage, you cannot say that they are automatic champions.  Celtics and bucks can give them a good fight. You can see how the Celtics gave the Clippers a good fight even with Hayward sidelined.
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December 03, 2019, 10:31:28 PM
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Despite all this, i doubt that we can consider Bucks to be main contenders. I set them in the finals tho, for that they are certiainly main favorite in the East conference. Overall, for me Clippers and Lakers are the main contenders, and whoever if those 2 wins west conference will win the title as well.
I think it will either be celtics or bucks for Eastern Conference. And even though LA teams have the biggest advantage, you cannot say that they are automatic champions.  Celtics and bucks can give them a good fight. You can see how the Celtics gave the Clippers a good fight even with Hayward sidelined.
When no injuries for the team like the Clippers and Lakers then they have a great chance to win in the NBA finals, last season it was the Warriors who are the heavy favorites but injuries made their line up weak and the Raptors took advantage to that, Raptors fans were even criticize clapping when Durant was reinjured in game 5 I guess.

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December 03, 2019, 10:36:38 PM
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Raptors managed to win the championship last season all thanks to many injuries ..

That was a disrespect for Raptors' achievement. Others really considering that as a reason why the Raptors won the championship. Warriors are really the expected team to win there and all NBA analysts, fans, enthusiasts, troll, bandwagon, know that a healthy Warriors is way too much for the Raptors but we are just speculating here at the end. Even with the Warriors healthy lineup, all speculations will just lead into "WHAT IF?".

As for the East, we must not close the door yet that no one from that conference can match the much stronger West. I don't know what's the basis but I can't even see Lakers and Clippers as the teams that are close in getting the championship this season. NBA today is unpredictable and teams are balanced compared during the Warriors era that we can predict already who will the championship right from the start of the season.
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December 03, 2019, 10:44:53 PM
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The Bucks now is leading the league in most wins this season. Though only up by 1 win against the Lakers, I think they have in the good position to be considered as top contender for the championship. That is if they don't choke in the playoffs.

Despite all this, i doubt that we can consider Bucks to be main contenders. I set them in the finals tho, for that they are certiainly main favorite in the East conference. Overall, for me Clippers and Lakers are the main contenders, and whoever if those 2 wins west conference will win the title as well.

But of course, all this can be easily changed in case of some injuries, we saw last year how that can mess you up.

Injuries can really change the rotation of players in a team and also change to momentum of the team towards their goals. The game changes as playoffs is on its way. Either way, Clippers and the Lakers are two most anticipated to meet at the WCF but for me, my dark horse would be the Dallas Mavericks since they also played well this season and they showed they can beat both the Lakers and the Clippers.

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December 03, 2019, 11:03:24 PM
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Either way, Clippers and the Lakers are two most anticipated to meet at the WCF but for me, my dark horse would be the Dallas Mavericks since they also played well this season and they showed they can beat both the Lakers and the Clippers.

yeah, let us not forget about the Dallas Mavericks, they were beating good teams and their last game against one of the best teams in the NBA is a win, they beat the Lakers in a very convincing win, they loss to LA Clippers big time but they bounce back a win to another LA.

If they will be in the playoffs this season which is likely to happen, I might bet on them to win in the NBA finals, imagine how big the betting odds for that as mavericks are still undervalued.


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December 03, 2019, 11:55:10 PM
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If this man would able to patch up those weakness then no doubt he's already unstoppable.When it comes to paint scoring then theres no problem on that but for outside and specially with freethrows you can actually see on whats lacking.  

Because that's not his usual gameplay. He focuses on something that he is used to and that's effective. Also, the reason why he is popular today and able to grab the last year's season MVP.  It's just that there are really cases where there a team who can think of a plan on how to slow him down.

He is working on his perimeter shooting as part of the adjustment. I do amazed at him that he is now taking lots of jump shots now. But for me, no need to focus on that much if he sees he can always penetrate on defense during a certain match. Let his teammates fill the gaps and just do that adjustment when necessary.
Yep, i agree on that line which its not his usual gameplay and come to think that this guy is still 24 years old where theres soo much time to improve even more.
Versatility in all possible positions is what i like to see. Each player has its own strength and weakness though but i wont be surprised if he would become the next LBJ on next years to come.

Honestly, I also want him to improved his shooting and I did mention that before here in this thread. He is young and there are lots of time to improve.e

However, he is currently at his peak and his strong built is following accordingly to what he wants to do. So instead of focusing too much on improving jump shot or taking 3s,  take this as an opportunity to maximize more his ability to penetrate on every defense so that those strategies or attempts of other teams to slow him down will be ineffective. He can literally destroy a strong defense and only a few players can do it now. His shooting will surely be improved while on the progress even he will do it frequently so that when the time comes that his body is not that agile and athletic as before, he can now shift into perimeter shooting.

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December 04, 2019, 12:23:40 AM
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~snip~

If they will be in the playoffs this season which is likely to happen, I might bet on them to win in the NBA finals, imagine how big the betting odds for that as mavericks are still undervalued.

I doubt that. Yes, they could absolutely compete in the playoffs, but experience proved to be the most important asset the player or a team must have to win a title. That happened most of the time.
If this Dallas team will stay intact next season, or they can add more pieces to make the team even more solid, I'd surely bet on them to win a title.
Doncic is a real deal, that kid is a future hall of famer, and I can say that even at this early stage of his career.

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December 04, 2019, 01:19:26 AM
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East once again sucks in my eye, Raptors managed to win the championship last season all thanks to many injuries but this season I feel like nobody on east is powerful enough to beat anyone on the west even with injuries. Bucks have Giannis and a great system (Coach Bud has been primed under Pop and improved at Hawks, he is a perfect coach for a team like Bucks) but in the end Clippers/Lakers and even Rockets are waaaay too powerful against Bucks. Them being so high on the list all due to scheduling and how east teams play mostly east teams whereas west teams play west.

The only shocking thing so far to me is Dallas keeping up so good, I mean we all know Porzingis and Doncic would have been amazing together but didn't expected them to mesh so well together on the first ever year together.

Huh?  Milwahki is every bit of their record.  Beat houston, beat the clippers, beat utah once and dallas twice.  They didnt even get to the golden states, new orleans, etc of the west.  They will be almost even odds against any western team if not more.  They dont get as much tv burn as the clips and lakers get, but dont mistake that for weakness.
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However, you should not bet against Kawhi and Paul George together in home court. I reckon wait for load management news hehehe. There might be one because they are playing the Bucks on the road after Portland.

If you have some kind of hatred for power teams then you might really want to bet against them.  Grin
One example is me betting against the Lakers team. I just really love being on the losing side and then a sudden win will happen.  Grin Bad habit of mine.

Clippers though is difficult to predict. They win against a high seed team and then lose against the low seed. One example is the Phoenix Suns.
Also, there are player absences that happens before the game starts, I don't really like that kind of method.
I don't want to be keeping up to date for every player just because they have a diarrhea.  Grin

I might go against the Clippers if they will give me a good advantage like a large addition to the score of the team they are against. (which mostly happens)

The Clippers have a good home record, however. If you want to bet against them, they should be playing as the favorite on the road with the bookies giving a good handicap for the underdog. +6 and above it hehehe.

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December 04, 2019, 04:16:50 AM
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I'm watching right now the Lakers vs Denver match. 4 minutes left and I think this is going to be an overtime but it still depends on how Lakers will take care of their 3 point lead.

From 7 points lead to 3 points.

Edit: 102-96 few seconds left.

Congrats Lakers.

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December 04, 2019, 05:48:41 AM
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The Clippers have a good home record, however. If you want to bet against them, they should be playing as the favorite on the road with the bookies giving a good handicap for the underdog. +6 and above it hehehe.

I will bet against them if they will against one my favorite teams. Like Denver Nuggets maybe or the Dallas Mavericks.
+6 might be enough with this team or better they will win it.

Edit: 102-96 few seconds left.
Congrats Lakers.
Something like this.
That is the Lakers team with addition of AD and Green while on the other hand Denver had not much improved their roster. Just the players.
But I cannot believe Denver was given -2.5. That was bad and I never bet on it.
Final was 105-96 in favor of Lakers.
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Edit: 102-96 few seconds left.
Congrats Lakers.
Something like this.
That is the Lakers team with addition of AD and Green while on the other hand Denver had not much improved their roster. Just the players.
But I cannot believe Denver was given -2.5. That was bad and I never bet on it.
Final was 105-96 in favor of Lakers.
Yeah, I forgot to edit since I already thought that game was finished with that score. Actually it was a close game and the run-in score by Denver was impressive, I really thought that they'll par on the score within the last minutes.

But well, they've lost and the momentum was with the Lakers.

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Edit: 102-96 few seconds left.
Congrats Lakers.
Something like this.
That is the Lakers team with addition of AD and Green while on the other hand Denver had not much improved their roster. Just the players.
But I cannot believe Denver was given -2.5. That was bad and I never bet on it.
Final was 105-96 in favor of Lakers.
Yeah, I forgot to edit since I already thought that game was finished with that score. Actually it was a close game and the run-in score by Denver was impressive, I really thought that they'll par on the score within the last minutes.

But well, they've lost and the momentum was with the Lakers.

Just seen the videos of the highlights, it was really a close game, Anthony Davis really did a good job playing defensively and then scoring 25 points. Lakers avoided back-to-back lost with this win.

Nikola Jokic was absent in the first half and I don't know why he doesn't want to shoot the ball though, maybe it was really a good Lakers defence on him. But he came aggressive in the second half, but not enough.

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