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September 05, 2022, 12:43:31 PM
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He really needs a huge adjustments for his skills to somehow blend well with LeBron and AD's style of play.

Westbrook had enough time to blend with Lebron and AD, but did we see that last season? The answer is no, so WB have another season to finally test if he can really blend, after this if he still fails, I don't know what will happen.

I really believe that Westbrook can't blend well with Lebron and AD. The guy has a high sense of pride and ego. And his 3-point shooting is always a liability especially when they already have Lebron as their main guy that drives the ball that can create space for the Lakers' supposedly deadly sharpshooters.   

With less than a month before the start of another season, the Lakers need to better their offers in order to unload Westbrook and his huge $47 million salary. Because if they can't unload Russ then what's the point of signing Lebron with a super expensive deal if they are also not willing to build around him?

You nailed it, I don't understand why the Lakers are still keeping Westbrook after seeing him struggle last season, they don't give up easily, but actually I think they should try to think of trading him because for sure, next season, Lakers might still be a disaster again.

Lebron and AD is enough as long as they are surrounded with role players and deadly shooters, they are good to go.

It is hard to trade westbrook because of his humungus contract. I doubt any team will take him without additional picks or good trade package. Lakers has no picks to offer or anyone to package with Westbrook. I do not know if they can buy out his contract so they can replace him with someone better. I do not know if that is viable. If it is, I think that is a better course if Westbrook's performance does not improve or he cannot have chemistry with his other co-superstars.
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September 05, 2022, 03:23:53 PM
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It is hard to trade westbrook because of his humungus contract. I doubt any team will take him without additional picks or good trade package. Lakers has no picks to offer or anyone to package with Westbrook. I do not know if they can buy out his contract so they can replace him with someone better. I do not know if that is viable. If it is, I think that is a better course if Westbrook's performance does not improve or he cannot have chemistry with his other co-superstars.
It will certainly be a waste of money but if there's any solution to this dilemma then that might be it. $47M. I am sure Westbrook will be happy about it.
Then he could just look for a team that would accept him even with a cut to his average price.

If it won't come to that ending, all eyes will be on him if he will have a better season or will it just be the same as last year. Lakers movement of players seems to be exhausted because of their expensive players. The other option that I see is just pay the luxury tax.  Grin
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September 05, 2022, 03:34:02 PM
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He really needs a huge adjustments for his skills to somehow blend well with LeBron and AD's style of play.


Westbrook had enough time to blend with Lebron and AD, but did we see that last season? The answer is no, so WB have another season to finally test if he can really blend, after this if he still fails, I don't know what will happen.

But the Lakers still decided to keep him, there's nothing we can do on that but to criticize him and the management if WB is still inconsistent or the same as last season. Under a new coach, we are expecting that he would change the system and improve it, it also means that Wesbrook will improve to see the team improve.

Aside from improvement, Lakers needs to be a championship team as that's what people are expecting on them.

Lakers is a brand where is more on the business side, if Westbrook will still play the same as what he did last season for sure

the disappointment of the fans will force the management to kick him out of the team, maybe the coach might have some plan

as they don't have any option right now but to keep Westbrook, giving him that chance to improve his game as a role player

and not the main gunner of the team, with a healthy LeBron and AD, the chance for Lakers to be more competitive is high, but

the role players should be there to help and not just to lean with LeBron and AD shoulders.
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September 05, 2022, 05:44:49 PM
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I don’t think they’re going to let Westbrook out on a Lakers jersey this year. I guess it’s possible, but more likely to me is that they just buy him out and take the loss. They need their draft picks probably more than the 40 million dollars. I k ow it’s a terrible business move as far as finances, but they aren’t going to win with Westbrook at the point so they need to do something and fast.

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September 05, 2022, 06:31:44 PM
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It is hard to trade westbrook because of his humungus contract. I doubt any team will take him without additional picks or good trade package. Lakers has no picks to offer or anyone to package with Westbrook. I do not know if they can buy out his contract so they can replace him with someone better. I do not know if that is viable. If it is, I think that is a better course if Westbrook's performance does not improve or he cannot have chemistry with his other co-superstars.
It will certainly be a waste of money but if there's any solution to this dilemma then that might be it. $47M. I am sure Westbrook will be happy about it.
Then he could just look for a team that would accept him even with a cut to his average price.

If it won't come to that ending, all eyes will be on him if he will have a better season or will it just be the same as last year. Lakers movement of players seems to be exhausted because of their expensive players. The other option that I see is just pay the luxury tax.  Grin

I really don't think any team should get this prayer right now for this much money. This would be a waste of huge amounts of money for them. He is not in a good form right now and he is certainly not worth this much money. Lakers are going to have some big problems trying to trade this player. 47 million dollars is going to be wasted if anyone tries to get this player. His current form does not suggest he is worth 47 million dollars.
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September 05, 2022, 07:00:59 PM
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It is hard to trade westbrook because of his humungus contract. I doubt any team will take him without additional picks or good trade package. Lakers has no picks to offer or anyone to package with Westbrook. I do not know if they can buy out his contract so they can replace him with someone better. I do not know if that is viable. If it is, I think that is a better course if Westbrook's performance does not improve or he cannot have chemistry with his other co-superstars.
It will certainly be a waste of money but if there's any solution to this dilemma then that might be it. $47M. I am sure Westbrook will be happy about it.
Then he could just look for a team that would accept him even with a cut to his average price.

If it won't come to that ending, all eyes will be on him if he will have a better season or will it just be the same as last year. Lakers movement of players seems to be exhausted because of their expensive players. The other option that I see is just pay the luxury tax.  Grin

I really don't think any team should get this prayer right now for this much money. This would be a waste of huge amounts of money for them. He is not in a good form right now and he is certainly not worth this much money. Lakers are going to have some big problems trying to trade this player. 47 million dollars is going to be wasted if anyone tries to get this player. His current form does not suggest he is worth 47 million dollars.

The only good thing is it's an expiring contract.  My guess is the Lakers start with him and deal him at the deadline to someone looking to shed players with long term contracts.  Probably their best bet.

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September 05, 2022, 08:17:13 PM
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The only good thing is it's an expiring contract.  My guess is the Lakers start with him and deal him at the deadline to someone looking to shed players with long term contracts.  Probably their best bet.

I don't know, why not just wait? I know that they can't win anything this year with this roster, but just roll it like this and lose, and then next year you are going to have just a HUGE salary space and you could get another star? Thats going to be the key factor for them, hell they could even get like some high contract just like westbrook, a bad player, like some john wall situation and get a ton of picks as well. This won't help them today, but it will help them after Lebron leaves or retires. They will have some picks back and be bad for a few years and then have a great run of picks to build a good team.

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September 05, 2022, 08:39:03 PM
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It is hard to trade westbrook because of his humungus contract. I doubt any team will take him without additional picks or good trade package. Lakers has no picks to offer or anyone to package with Westbrook. I do not know if they can buy out his contract so they can replace him with someone better. I do not know if that is viable. If it is, I think that is a better course if Westbrook's performance does not improve or he cannot have chemistry with his other co-superstars.
It will certainly be a waste of money but if there's any solution to this dilemma then that might be it. $47M. I am sure Westbrook will be happy about it.
Then he could just look for a team that would accept him even with a cut to his average price.

If it won't come to that ending, all eyes will be on him if he will have a better season or will it just be the same as last year. Lakers movement of players seems to be exhausted because of their expensive players. The other option that I see is just pay the luxury tax.  Grin

I really don't think any team should get this prayer right now for this much money. This would be a waste of huge amounts of money for them. He is not in a good form right now and he is certainly not worth this much money. Lakers are going to have some big problems trying to trade this player. 47 million dollars is going to be wasted if anyone tries to get this player. His current form does not suggest he is worth 47 million dollars.

Yes he's performance decline maybe due to the reason that he is not the main man on Lakers the rotation of Lakers focus on lebron so I guess that's one of the reason why we didn't see the Westbrook we see on OKC and on other team where he perform triple double. But I think Westbrook still good addition but I also agree that he's not worth 47 million dollars anymore.

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September 05, 2022, 08:42:41 PM
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The only good thing is it's an expiring contract.  My guess is the Lakers start with him and deal him at the deadline to someone looking to shed players with long term contracts.  Probably their best bet.
Why would they even spend 47 million to buy him out, might as well keep him because it is not the salary roster that is creating issues for them. They could keep him, and hopefully they can trade him to a team that can take the hit until the season ends, because at the end of the season the contract ends right? If that is the case then a team could take the hit on the books, pay him, but get something in return. What can Lakers offer? At this point really nothing.

Everyone acts as if Westbrook is the issue, but the reality is that they have three players, Westbrook, Lebron and AD, those are it, they do not have any other good players and that is the real issue if you ask me.
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September 05, 2022, 09:42:21 PM
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It is hard to trade westbrook because of his humungus contract. I doubt any team will take him without additional picks or good trade package. Lakers has no picks to offer or anyone to package with Westbrook. I do not know if they can buy out his contract so they can replace him with someone better. I do not know if that is viable. If it is, I think that is a better course if Westbrook's performance does not improve or he cannot have chemistry with his other co-superstars.
That's for sure going to be part of the deal, him plus some other picks, maybe some rookies that have the potential, and the Lakers have to let him go to have a better player option and contract deals. There could be some viable options that will be offered to him, I guess after the KD hard trade and buyout, we're now looking at Westbrook to have the same thing. And it's on Lakers if they'll end up keeping him but it's not really the best option for them.

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September 05, 2022, 09:59:09 PM
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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?

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The only good thing is it's an expiring contract.  My guess is the Lakers start with him and deal him at the deadline to someone looking to shed players with long term contracts.  Probably their best bet.

I don't know, why not just wait? I know that they can't win anything this year with this roster, but just roll it like this and lose, and then next year you are going to have just a HUGE salary space and you could get another star? Thats going to be the key factor for them, hell they could even get like some high contract just like westbrook, a bad player, like some john wall situation and get a ton of picks as well. This won't help them today, but it will help them after Lebron leaves or retires. They will have some picks back and be bad for a few years and then have a great run of picks to build a good team.

The whole point of why not just wait is because they can't.  Theor lebron window is closing.  Ypu can waist this year so if they can get back 2 serviceable players from a non contender at the deadline they might want to shed theor contracts and will take on russ to make it work.  They need a competitive team this year.

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September 05, 2022, 10:33:56 PM
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Celtics lost some firepower for next season as Gallinari has been diagnosed a torn ACL on his left knee. That's a nasty injury and he's likely to miss the entire season. He's not on superstar level but decent role player that can fill up the rotation which the Celtics badly needs.
They still have other free agents right now that might be a good fit for the Celtics.

Melo, Boogie Cousins, maybe Aldridge (he is also a master of perimeter shooting). They can still get these players or pick other ones in the absence of Gallinari. These 3 players that I said played well in their respective teams. Melo had some 20-point games in the Lakers, Cousins had been a big help to the bench of the Nuggets and Aldridge still has his stroke in perimeter shooting (he is shooting 55% last season).
I'm not taking anything away from these unrestricted free agents but it's already not looking good for the Celtics since their options are already limited. It's tough to have injury prone players and a potential defensive liability even for one year when you're aiming to be the champion.

My personal pick among the three would be Boogie.
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September 05, 2022, 10:38:07 PM
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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?
None about that, most of the news that I've seen is all about him not gonna play this season because of that injury. I guess there's a reason why it's taken down quickly and the author would just like to get the engagement by making that assumption.
Is there anything that has said that it's his doctor that has said that he can go back early playoffs and his injury might be healed by that time? If not, then it's just the author that has made that to attract readers. I hope that ESPN won't tolerate it if there's no certain basis for it. Nothing wrong about telling that he'll miss the whole season but telling that he could go back early playoffs, it should be validated first.

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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?

The last news that I read is that the surgery was very successful on Chet. But not sure if OKC wanted to risk him playing at the end of the season or early playoffs. I mean if they won't it to the playoff then obviously then don't need to have him play. So its better to really take care of this kid and not force him to play this season. And in the meantime, while he is on the recovery, he can build his body for one whole season. So that when he comes back, he will be stronger and might not get injury prone as OKC is building their team around this kid.

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September 05, 2022, 11:21:47 PM
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Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?

Just conclude already that Chet won't play this season even how good the status he will show during the recovery period.

Even fully healed and cleared to play during the time, if ever, OKC reaches the playoffs, not a good idea to just put Chet in the action because obviously, he needs some adjustment first playing several season games and the chemistry is not yet fully blended with his teammates.

Expect him to be prepared next season and as some analysts say, "he will silent the doubters".

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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?

Looking at the news before, Chet's injury is a season-ending injury. He might be able to play, as you mentioned in NBA's last few games or early playoffs but I'm sure OKC will not risk it. They will fully unleash Chet next season to make sure everything is smooth. For now, OKC will now rely on their current roster or maybe they have also other plans to sign other players before the trade deadline.
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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?

Looking at the news before, Chet's injury is a season-ending injury. He might be able to play, as you mentioned in NBA's last few games or early playoffs but I'm sure OKC will not risk it. They will fully unleash Chet next season to make sure everything is smooth. For now, OKC will now rely on their current roster or maybe they have also other plans to sign other players before the trade deadline.

Yes, although in the beginning we thought that the injury is not that serious,but the MRI says otherwise and they didn't waste time because he goes under the knife to fix his injuries and they declared it a season ending for Chet. And it was reported a couple of days ago that the operations is very successful. They just needed more time for it to heal so there's no rush for him to comeback whether end of regular season or in the playoff because he needs time to adjust his body. So it's better for the OKC management to rest him out this season.

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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?
Too risky for me. The word here "could" mean he isn't 100% and if that's the case then it means that he can get re-injured again if they will force him to play.

Look at Klay. He spent 2 years sitting in the bench and working every day for his injury to get healed. Last season when he came back, he isn't the usual Klay where he is scoring more than 20+ but his contributions to the team and their title is still huge. I think it's best for OKC to just let Chet sit for the whole season if he isn't 100% healthy at the end of the season. I think we will agree that OKC will not reach the playoffs this upcoming season, right? I mean they only have young and talented players.

Whether this is true or not, it's best for him and for the OKC to rest him this upcoming season while focusing on his body because that body will not last long knowing how strong NBA bigs are right now.

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Guys, today I was visiting some sports/news sites and I read a news article about Chet Holmgren's injury (to be more specific an update on his injury) and it said that he could return to the NBA maybe at the end of the season regular or early playoffs.

As incredible as it may seem, I tried to access this site again to view it more calmly, but it seems that the content was taken down... To be more specific, this news I had read was on the ESPN website.

Has anyone seen any news similar to this about Holmgren's injury!!?
Yes, he was injured. But I think the reason why they took it down is that they don't know the precise date on when his return will be.
Maybe, they will post it back after editing a few errors.
The injury (Lisfranc injury) is said to take 6 months to 1 year including rehabilitation and they should also take to account the mental shock it could bring to the rookie. So, expect it to take longer than a year. Once we see him in training camp next season, it will be a good sign.

Here is a link to the short analysis of the injury, how it happened, and some similar cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yj6YUtitVk

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