2024 NBA Season

[Japinat]

Anybody followed the FIBA World Cup Qualifiers? Many NBA players participated on their respective countries.

Yes and I'm following our country's qualifying games in which we lost against Lebanon just days ago in a close match.

Our NBA prospect is Jordan Clarkson who just confirms that he will play for our country PH in FIBA World CUP 2023.

Tonight, our country will host a match against Saudi Arabia. Expecting a bounce back after a bitter loss against Lebanon.

I'm just curious if there will be no conflict with the schedule of JC to his announcement that he'll play in Fiba WC 2023. I'm not aware of their scheduling and with the WC.

But as he said and confirming that, I guess that there's no problem to his schedule then. Good luck to him and his team.

Well, indeed Jordan Clarkson himself confirmed that he would join and play with Gilas Pilipinas in the FIBA World Cup, so it might be safe to assume that he can really play next year because I think that the games are scheduled on NBA's off-season. Except, if there are some other important events that he needed to attend or if he acquires some injuries that could prevent him from playing in the World Cup.

[Baofeng]

Who knows, maybe he will retire as a Knicks and could be offer as well a job after his NBA player career is over. Also, I think his presence as a veteran will be appreciated by the young Knicks. As CP3 said, he is a fan of Udonis Haslem because "young guys needs vets."

Looks like this is his own decision and he might be there with just a reasonable salary. During his time with the Knicks, he was unstoppable but unfortunately is not enough to win a championship since it was also the time when the other championship teams are rising as well. Now he can just pass some good advice to the young guns and maybe he will be the reason for their improvement in the future.

He should retire as a Knicks because that's where he has the best season.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/gamelog/2012/#site_menu_link

I'm happy to see him retire as a Knicks, though he had some great seasons with the Nuggets, but he will be more remembered as the Knicks as that's his last team where he was still in his prime.

Yes, that's what I'm also thinking, when he got traded to the Knicks in his career, he was still in his prime that's why he had one of the best years of his career as a Knick.

So it's just fitting that after all of this years in the NBA with several teams, it's either be Denver or Knicks that should retire his jersey and as I have said, could be in the front office as well.

[jossiel]

I'm just curious if there will be no conflict with the schedule of JC to his announcement that he'll play in Fiba WC 2023. I'm not aware of their scheduling and with the WC. But as he said and confirming that, I guess that there's no problem to his schedule then. Good luck to him and his team.

Fiba World Cup will run from August 25 to Sep 10, 2023.

NBA is off-season during that time and no conflict if there's a practice session or anything related to NBA and his team, Utah Jazz.

In the first place, Jordan Clarson will not confirm it if he's not sure and has no permission from his team and the league.

Alright, thanks.

I just thought when I've read 2023, I literally have thought of next year. Like first quarter of 2023.

The biggest basketball events are the Olympics and the NBA and then followed by the FIBA World Cup. The organizers of these events respects each other so their schedules are always not the same. They cannot divide the basketball fans around the world by having the same schedules because it can also divide their profit. However it is popular that many American superstars aren't giving much importance to FIBA World Cup and they give their slots to the younger and upcoming players.

The Utah Jazz will start as a mediocre team or a rebuilding team next season. Therefore he understands that even these qualifier games are more important and valuable than his upcoming games with the Utah Jazz. I just checked that the next FIBA World Cup hosts are the Philippines, Japan and Indonesia. This must be the first time that three nations are hosting this event. JC must be proud along with the other NBA players committing to play with their respective countries. Spain without the Gasol brothers will be the same again.     

I've just seen the game a while ago and they've won against the Saudi Arabia and a few games are already in schedule for them. Thanks, just as I have said.

I just thought about next year when I'm looking at the year of the Fiba tournament. It's my thought and mistake for thinking literally that it would be by the next year so, I thought about conflict in the schedules.

[OgNasty]

It looks like the Lakers have decided to stop trying to find a good trade for Russell Westbrook and they're now willing to do whatever they can to get rid of his contract.  No idea who they'd potentially try to sign with the savings, but it seems like they're ready to do what they have to do to get him off their roster.  The latest is that they're trying to piggyback on any trade to include Russell's contract and to incentivize teams to take that contract they're offering both their first round pics in 2027 and 2029.  What a mistake that Westbrook signing was...

[gagux123]

Westbrook being at the end of his career is mostly just an assumption by me, but he is not a LeBron James dominate type player who can play 20 years. Look at how many trams were interested in him when the Lakers were looking to trade him. Not many at all. The guy Still thinks he is worth 30 million a year for whatever reason and that's just not the case. IMO he needs to play off thr bench if he wants to last another 3 years in the league.

Now I understand... I still believe he has a few seasons ahead.

Well, let's see how he will perform in the next seasons, because if he suffers any kind of serious injury, I have no doubt that he will be able to bring his retirement as soon as posible.

[wheelz1200]

^ Speaking of age, we might as well compare with CP3 who is older. He played more games and was able to maintain his turnovers per game to just over 2 in the last decade.

Cp3 and Westbrook have 2 completely different games.  Westbrook crashes the paint where cp3 just sits outside and sets up his team.  Cp3 is probably the best pg in the league, it's unfair to compare the 2 because they play 2 separate types of games.  Cp3 also doesn't crash for rebounds or drives hard to the basket.  Apples and oranges.

I'm trying to say it's not just the lost speed which youth brings (as @yahoo implied) but also the skills at handling the ball, regardless of the style they play, as the reason for the high turnovers. You can see CP3 drive to the basket too but he can get out of traffic when the paint is well defended (zone).

That rebound comparison is irrelevant to this case.


It also brings us back to the point of @harizen

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(I was surprised that he played as part of the starting lineup at all these games )

He's gotten slow but his ball handling skills hasn't really improved as evidenced by high TPG.

It's not irrelevant.  Cp3 doesn't crash the paint anywhere near Westbrook.  That's where russ can create and wreck havoc on games but it also gets him in bad position.  Just pointing out both have different styles you can't compare the 2.  And yeah of course he lost a step at his age but I'd bet on the side of west having an off year.  Think he comes back better this year.

[harizen]

Trading Russell Westbrook might be one of the ways to somehow improve the Lakers roster according to others. But from what I see, that problem last season can't be solved thru only trading Westbrook to either Donovan Mitchell or those names who are on the rumor list.

First, the injuries. No matter how good the core lineup is, it will be spoiled if injuries will again strike the Lakers like what happened last season.

Second, the bench. You can only name 1-2 players from the Lakers bench who are effective backups. But take note, those are not consistent.

[agustina2]

It's not irrelevant.  Cp3 doesn't crash the paint anywhere near Westbrook.  That's where russ can create and wreck havoc on games but it also gets him in bad position.  Just pointing out both have different styles you can't compare the 2.  And yeah of course he lost a step at his age but I'd bet on the side of west having an off year.  Think he comes back better this year.

Yes, I agree with you. Even though it's clear that CP3 is really much more effective in the team last season compare to what Westbrook is giving, we can't conclude right away that Westbrook is totally not useful. Westbrook is disciplined in his body that he didn't even experience major injuries even how athletic is. Usually, an athletic player is prone to injury but Westbrook is not.

He just needs to fully become mentally prepared to somehow return to his usual performance. Not the same during his prime but a Westbrook that can adjust his gameplay and be helpful to his teammates.

[ChiBitCTy]

Trading Russell Westbrook might be one of the ways to somehow improve the Lakers roster according to others. But from what I see, that problem last season can't be solved thru only trading Westbrook to either Donovan Mitchell or those names who are on the rumor list.

First, the injuries. No matter how good the core lineup is, it will be spoiled if injuries will again strike the Lakers like what happened last season.

Second, the bench. You can only name 1-2 players from the Lakers bench who are effective backups. But take note, those are not consistent.

Yeah I hear you it’s going to take a lot more for the lakers to get better than just trading away Russell Westbrook. However if Anthony Davis could just stay healthy for an entire year, and you get that same MVP level of play out of Lebron, then I think they’ve got a team that could compete. The main thing to me is getting Anthony to play up to his ability and the rest may fall in line.

[Dave1]

Trading Russell Westbrook might be one of the ways to somehow improve the Lakers roster according to others. But from what I see, that problem last season can't be solved thru only trading Westbrook to either Donovan Mitchell or those names who are on the rumor list.

First, the injuries. No matter how good the core lineup is, it will be spoiled if injuries will again strike the Lakers like what happened last season.

Second, the bench. You can only name 1-2 players from the Lakers bench who are effective backups. But take note, those are not consistent.

Yeah I hear you it’s going to take a lot more for the lakers to get better than just trading away Russell Westbrook. However if Anthony Davis could just stay healthy for an entire year, and you get that same MVP level of play out of Lebron, then I think they’ve got a team that could compete. The main thing to me is getting Anthony to play up to his ability and the rest may fall in line.

Well if we can get them to form like in the Bubble, then they have a good chance again. That championship run has mixed of veterans and young core as well, Lebron and Davis at the helm, and then the experience as well of Rondo in the guard position. And then we have Javale, Howard and Danny Green or Dudley to help the young core of Kuzma, KCP, Cook, THT and others. So it was really a fun and built team. Not sure how they can't replicate it anymore, the blue print is already there for them. I guess it was really the injuries that haunt them last season.

[Reid]

It looks like the Lakers have decided to stop trying to find a good trade for Russell Westbrook and they're now willing to do whatever they can to get rid of his contract.  No idea who they'd potentially try to sign with the savings, but it seems like they're ready to do what they have to do to get him off their roster.  The latest is that they're trying to piggyback on any trade to include Russell's contract and to incentivize teams to take that contract they're offering both their first round pics in 2027 and 2029.  What a mistake that Westbrook signing was...

Big mistake. They didn't realized it will be that bad until gametime.
3rd party in a trade, that's what I read. Forcing a trade because no one is offering anything for him. This ain't different with what happened with Kyrie and Durant although Westbrook is not some kind of a diva like them. He just want to be on a better team and get a ring but it seems his last chance is trying to kick him out because of the unproductive season that he performed.
Dude should've stayed in OKC. He may not get a championship but he will be remembered in that place. Or he may get one just like Dirk who did it as a veteran.

[yazher]

Big mistake. They didn't realized it will be that bad until gametime.
3rd party in a trade, that's what I read. Forcing a trade because no one is offering anything for him. This ain't different with what happened with Kyrie and Durant although Westbrook is not some kind of a diva like them. He just want to be on a better team and get a ring but it seems his last chance is trying to kick him out because of the unproductive season that he performed.
Dude should've stayed in OKC. He may not get a championship but he will be remembered in that place. Or he may get one just like Dirk who did it as a veteran.

The dude only wanted to try his chance with a different team, thinking he might get a higher percentage of winning a championship if he gamble to ask to get traded to the other team but luck was not in his way rather every team he goes to play doesn't become like how he used to be in the OKC. Shit happens to him already and if he doesn't cooperate with his current team to do what they need him to do with his role, he won't get anywhere and no one wants him already.

[LogitechMouse]

I'm just curious if there will be no conflict with the schedule of JC to his announcement that he'll play in Fiba WC 2023. I'm not aware of their scheduling and with the WC.

But as he said and confirming that, I guess that there's no problem to his schedule then. Good luck to him and his team.

In the next window of FIBA, for sure JC will not play in Gilas because NBA starts at September and the next window will be in November. Conflict of schedule.

With regards to the World Cup, it will start on August-September and at that time, it will be the off-season in the NBA so I think there will be no conflict of schedule and he already said in an interview that he will play so... yeah let's just expect him to play.

It looks like the Lakers have decided to stop trying to find a good trade for Russell Westbrook and they're now willing to do whatever they can to get rid of his contract.  No idea who they'd potentially try to sign with the savings, but it seems like they're ready to do what they have to do to get him off their roster.  The latest is that they're trying to piggyback on any trade to include Russell's contract and to incentivize teams to take that contract they're offering both their first round pics in 2027 and 2029.  What a mistake that Westbrook signing was...

Well, trading in NBA has a bit of a gamble as well so I guess the Lakers gambled at that time and TBH, many surprised with that move by the Lakers management. Trading Westbrook to so many key players like Kuzma, KCP, Harrell.

I guess they already know that Westbrook isn't a good fit for AD-Lebron duo so they will just find another player/s that will might be a perfect addition to the current roster. If I will pick, I hope that they will get some shooters and defenders like Beverley which they already got. I'm seeing that the Jazz might be interested in getting Westbrook but still let's wait for the final moves of both teams and I'm thinking as well that the Jazz might be the only option but aside from them, there are no other teams interested with him anymore.

[danherbias07]

So why not just trade Mitchell for Westbrook? isn't it possible?

I guess both are making at least $30 million per year, Westbrook probably has a higher salary than Mitchell, but Jazz are seeing Westbrook could bring the team to the championship, maybe they'll ask for the Lakers to trade Mitchell for him. I'm not so familiar with the trade rules, but is my thinking make sense?

I don't think the Jazz want just plain Westbrook on the offer. They are rebuilding and they want young players to be polished just like what they did with Gobert and Mitchell. If not young players that are in the league then future drafts will suffice, that's why a direct trade between Jazz and Lakers won't happen just like that.
They may split something from the Knicks that is why a three-way trade may happen. But these are all still rumors, we won't know what could happen until it's finalized although the Knicks do badly want Mitchell on their roster.

[Botnake]

So why not just trade Mitchell for Westbrook? isn't it possible?

I guess both are making at least $30 million per year, Westbrook probably has a higher salary than Mitchell, but Jazz are seeing Westbrook could bring the team to the championship, maybe they'll ask for the Lakers to trade Mitchell for him. I'm not so familiar with the trade rules, but is my thinking make sense?

I don't think the Jazz want just plain Westbrook on the offer. They are rebuilding and they want young players to be polished just like what they did with Gobert and Mitchell. If not young players that are in the league then future drafts will suffice, that's why a direct trade between Jazz and Lakers won't happen just like that.
They may split something from the Knicks that is why a three-way trade may happen. But these are all still rumors, we won't know what could happen until it's finalized although the Knicks do badly want Mitchell on their roster.

I guess so, it will not be a 1:1 trade that is gonna happen here. I'm happy if this trade will happen, at least these two players can again prove themselves in a new team. Mitchell going to the Knicks, it will give the team a big lift as he is really a superstar, it's just that in the playoffs he does not excel well to impact the team, hopefully with a new team he will.

[jossiel]

I'm just curious if there will be no conflict with the schedule of JC to his announcement that he'll play in Fiba WC 2023. I'm not aware of their scheduling and with the WC.

But as he said and confirming that, I guess that there's no problem to his schedule then. Good luck to him and his team.

In the next window of FIBA, for sure JC will not play in Gilas because NBA starts at September and the next window will be in November. Conflict of schedule.

With regards to the World Cup, it will start on August-September and at that time, it will be the off-season in the NBA so I think there will be no conflict of schedule and he already said in an interview that he will play so... yeah let's just expect him to play.

I still don't understand the window sequence or pattern of the Fiba. But as he has said that he's going to play, he'll play and it's already been set for his schedule.

Well, let's just go back to the topic of the NBA.

Well, trading in NBA has a bit of a gamble as well so I guess the Lakers gambled at that time and TBH, many surprised with that move by the Lakers management. Trading Westbrook to so many key players like Kuzma, KCP, Harrell.

I guess they already know that Westbrook isn't a good fit for AD-Lebron duo so they will just find another player/s that will might be a perfect addition to the current roster. If I will pick, I hope that they will get some shooters and defenders like Beverley which they already got. I'm seeing that the Jazz might be interested in getting Westbrook but still let's wait for the final moves of both teams and I'm thinking as well that the Jazz might be the only option but aside from them, there are no other teams interested with him anymore.

We all have the idea that Westbrook is going nowhere anymore. It makes it or breaks it for the trade as he's not that much of a contribution anymore to the team.

He's lucky if Jazz will take him on their wing then.

[carlisle1]

So why not just trade Mitchell for Westbrook? isn't it possible?

I guess both are making at least $30 million per year, Westbrook probably has a higher salary than Mitchell, but Jazz are seeing Westbrook could bring the team to the championship, maybe they'll ask for the Lakers to trade Mitchell for him. I'm not so familiar with the trade rules, but is my thinking make sense?

I don't think the Jazz want just plain Westbrook on the offer. They are rebuilding and they want young players to be polished just like what they did with Gobert and Mitchell. If not young players that are in the league then future drafts will suffice, that's why a direct trade between Jazz and Lakers won't happen just like that.
They may split something from the Knicks that is why a three-way trade may happen. But these are all still rumors, we won't know what could happen until it's finalized although the Knicks do badly want Mitchell on their roster.

I guess so, it will not be a 1:1 trade that is gonna happen here. I'm happy if this trade will happen, at least these two players can again prove themselves in a new team. Mitchell going to the Knicks, it will give the team a big lift as he is really a superstar, it's just that in the playoffs he does not excel well to impact the team, hopefully with a new team he will.

Maybe yes or maybe he really a choke type of player, though the idea of being traded to Knicks is something that might give him a shot

in carrying the team to chase for the title, it's a good move for the Knicks if they are trying to bring this franchise to a winning or a title contender

team, Mitchell is a great addition. Just let Mitchell lead their offense and use all the help from his teammates in winning a game.

Everything will be announced in case there're changes that may take place, still quiet about this trade and all are just rumors.

[Botnake]

So why not just trade Mitchell for Westbrook? isn't it possible?

I guess both are making at least $30 million per year, Westbrook probably has a higher salary than Mitchell, but Jazz are seeing Westbrook could bring the team to the championship, maybe they'll ask for the Lakers to trade Mitchell for him. I'm not so familiar with the trade rules, but is my thinking make sense?

I don't think the Jazz want just plain Westbrook on the offer. They are rebuilding and they want young players to be polished just like what they did with Gobert and Mitchell. If not young players that are in the league then future drafts will suffice, that's why a direct trade between Jazz and Lakers won't happen just like that.
They may split something from the Knicks that is why a three-way trade may happen. But these are all still rumors, we won't know what could happen until it's finalized although the Knicks do badly want Mitchell on their roster.

I guess so, it will not be a 1:1 trade that is gonna happen here. I'm happy if this trade will happen, at least these two players can again prove themselves in a new team. Mitchell going to the Knicks, it will give the team a big lift as he is really a superstar, it's just that in the playoffs he does not excel well to impact the team, hopefully with a new team he will.

Maybe yes or maybe he really a choke type of player, though the idea of being traded to Knicks is something that might give him a shot

in carrying the team to chase for the title, it's a good move for the Knicks if they are trying to bring this franchise to a winning or a title contender

team, Mitchell is a great addition. Just let Mitchell lead their offense and use all the help from his teammates in winning a game.

Everything will be announced in case there're changes that may take place, still quiet about this trade and all are just rumors.

Winning a championship with Mitchell, that's a hard task IMO. Maybe the best thing that will happen to the Nets is they will improve and will be in the playoffs not experiencing a 1st round exit again. Also, Randle himself is a big choker as well, so that's another problem the team has to fixed.

[Yaunfitda]

So why not just trade Mitchell for Westbrook? isn't it possible?

I guess both are making at least $30 million per year, Westbrook probably has a higher salary than Mitchell, but Jazz are seeing Westbrook could bring the team to the championship, maybe they'll ask for the Lakers to trade Mitchell for him. I'm not so familiar with the trade rules, but is my thinking make sense?

I don't think the Jazz want just plain Westbrook on the offer. They are rebuilding and they want young players to be polished just like what they did with Gobert and Mitchell. If not young players that are in the league then future drafts will suffice, that's why a direct trade between Jazz and Lakers won't happen just like that.
They may split something from the Knicks that is why a three-way trade may happen. But these are all still rumors, we won't know what could happen until it's finalized although the Knicks do badly want Mitchell on their roster.

I guess so, it will not be a 1:1 trade that is gonna happen here. I'm happy if this trade will happen, at least these two players can again prove themselves in a new team. Mitchell going to the Knicks, it will give the team a big lift as he is really a superstar, it's just that in the playoffs he does not excel well to impact the team, hopefully with a new team he will.

Maybe yes or maybe he really a choke type of player, though the idea of being traded to Knicks is something that might give him a shot

in carrying the team to chase for the title, it's a good move for the Knicks if they are trying to bring this franchise to a winning or a title contender

team, Mitchell is a great addition. Just let Mitchell lead their offense and use all the help from his teammates in winning a game.

Everything will be announced in case there're changes that may take place, still quiet about this trade and all are just rumors.

Winning a championship with Mitchell, that's a hard task IMO. Maybe the best thing that will happen to the Nets is they will improve and will be in the playoffs not experiencing a 1st round exit again. Also, Randle himself is a big choker as well, so that's another problem the team has to fixed.

I guess the Knicks might not be interested on a Mitchell acquisition, they've already finalizing RJ Barrett four-year rookie extension that could be worth up to $120 million. So that's huge amount of money and not sure if they can still afford Mitchell then.

So probably the Jazz will have to shop around again and see what will be their options for Mitchell. Maybe some other teams are still interested on him, money wise + future trade picks.

[Natalim]

I guess the Knicks might not be interested on a Mitchell acquisition, they've already finalizing RJ Barrett four-year rookie extension that could be worth up to $120 million. So that's huge amount of money and not sure if they can still afford Mitchell then.

That's why there's a trade, I don't think we will read this rumor if it's not possible for them to acquire Mitchell.
Here's the salary cap for 2022-23, don't know how to use this as reference to compute if they can acquire him, but maybe it can help.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/cap/

So probably the Jazz will have to shop around again and see what will be their options for Mitchell. Maybe some other teams are still interested on him, money wise + future trade picks.

If that's the case, then we don't know where Mitchell will land, probably on a low ranked team.