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September 18, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
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Signing Schroeder at that price is a lucky break fpr the Lakers. One that they badly needed too I must say. At least now they don't have to worry too much about an underperforming WB since they have someone willing to prove himself again.

I'm more surprised about signing Schroder again but when we look at it more carefully, they are really into making some positive changes with the team, and this time they are really serious about it. Looks like this is their last card and as usual, the fans are watching them and will gonna roast them if their not gonna be performing like a championship team. That's right, if WB is not effective, he will be replaced in the lineup as soon as he messed up his play.

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Nothing that he can do now, maybe if he will play his best and Lakers management sees him deserves an additional year.

Maybe, just maybe, on his next offer, they can give him something better than this one-year deal. For the Lakers bring him back
there might be a chance on him to make on his previous mistake, if he will deliver what the team needed from him, for sure
lakers will negotiate and give him another good deal, but yeah, $84M was already gone with the wind.

He played well with his stint with the Lakers but that was a different roster and now, some of the role players of the Lakers are already traded into another team.

A 4-year $84M deal to him will not happen or at least if the Lakers will give him another contract, it will not as huge as their previous offer to him. What's done is done I guess but I just hope that he learned a lesson from his past decision. He wanted a higher offer but in the end, he ended up earning way less than what he's supposed to earn. If he will play with the Lakers pretty well and if he will have a huge impact with the improvement of the Lakers this upcoming season (of course if they will improve), chances of him giving a better contract will be better and who knows, they might give him again another 4-year $84M contract again Cheesy. His addition to the team overall is good knowing that he is a good point guard.


As you may be aware, He gave a hint in July on Instagram

Dennis Schroeder has signed a 1-year contract worth 2.6 million dollars with the team.
Source: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10034965-dennis-schroder-lakers-agree-to-1-year-contract-worth-reported-26m

It seems that the Lakers were a little cautious to offer him a new contract because he was injured for some time during the last season.
I think they have made a good decision in signing this 29-year-old. As you can see, this is not as big as some people thought it would be.
Actually, I think everyone knew that the contract this time isn't gonna be big.

Other than that, the Lakers have also weighing things lately and thinking if getting Schroder would be a good idea. Dennis Schroder playing in EuroLeague impressively was one of the few reasons why the Lakers have decided to get him and sign him up but only for a year because to see if he can fit in their system nicely. I bet he will play in starting five while Westbrook will be benched for the meantime.

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With the news that Russell Westbrook will be coming off the bench this year most likely, I’m wondering who is going to be the starting PG for the Lakers. I think Dennis Schroder is the better player, but they’re paying Pat Beverly like 10x as much. If Dennis Schroder is the starter, I wonder if there’s another example of a starting PG making 20x less than their backup (Westbrook). That’s a pretty good sign of terrible team management unless the starting PG is on a rookie contract.

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September 18, 2022, 06:47:55 PM
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Signing Schroeder at that price is a lucky break fpr the Lakers. One that they badly needed too I must say. At least now they don't have to worry too much about an underperforming WB since they have someone willing to prove himself again.

I'm more surprised about signing Schroder again but when we look at it more carefully, they are really into making some positive changes with the team, and this time they are really serious about it. Looks like this is their last card and as usual, the fans are watching them and will gonna roast them if their not gonna be performing like a championship team. That's right, if WB is not effective, he will be replaced in the lineup as soon as he messed up his play.

Dennis shows some interesting performances during the Fiba might be the key to why Lakers sign him back and give him another shot.

By looking with this, Lakers are forming decent competitive squad to back LeBron and AD in case another
disappointing performance coming from Westbrook, they've got a good offensive player who can cover that messed.

With Beverly and Schroeder Lakers is forming a good key role player to play along with their stars, A great addition
and if all of them are healthy this upcoming season, the chance not to be eliminated earlier is very possible.
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September 18, 2022, 06:53:24 PM
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I agree that it shouldn't be the eye only to him but also to the others as well. But as the eye centers on Westbrook, it's because he's a star player and expectations to him are way up the highest than of those other players on the roster of the Lakers.
The coaching staff? I don't think that there's anything to do with it, well if there is then that's very minimal and little to be considered. Otherwise, they really have to rotate and make decisions wisely for this upcoming season in almost everything where they've fell apart.

It definitely shouldn't fall only on Westbrook, he's just the biggest problem that is fixable.  Anthony Davis' knees are arguably the biggest overall problem.  If AD was healthy all season, they wouldn't have even needed Russ to make the playoffs... 

The coaching staff deserves some of the blame as well.  Benching Westbrook at key points in close games isn't something you do to a superstar.  It had to have shaken his confidence and opened him up to unnecessary criticism. 

Maybe AD will be healthy and the new coach will give Russ some confidence to be his old self again.  Going into a contract year, he definitely has the motivation for a revenge season.
Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.

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September 18, 2022, 07:46:40 PM
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Not only he made a big mistake by turning down that offer, but he is also making mistake now coming back as well. This team is not as good as that one, plus they got Westbrook, which means that Dennis will be at best a backup PG and not get a lot of minutes, maybe like 20 minutes a game, being possibly the best player of the second unit is not a bad decision, he could get some stats but, but that team has 3 superstars, meaning one of them could be on the floor at all times while the other one rests and that could result with Dennis not getting any good stats neither. He should have found a team that has an open spot at PG he could work for and get some stats, that would have worked better for him.

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September 18, 2022, 09:15:18 PM
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I'm thinking, what if Westbrook will fail again and Dennis will provide what the team needs from Westbrook? For sure, he will get a big reward for that, will be offered will a big contract while Westbrook is gonna be up for a trade. It's weird but it's possible as Dennis is just a consistent player, more if he is given more minutes.

He is an unrestricted free agent after this season. I do not think the Lakers will be able to trade Westbrook because of the amount of his contract so I think he will be with the lakers this whole season. Unless the lakers are willing to pay for his contract and buy him out. That is the only thing I can see that could happen since they cannot trade him. They are amassing some good point guards with Bev and Schroder. That could be their plan.

I'm thinking, what if Westbrook will fail again and Dennis will provide what the team needs from Westbrook? For sure, he will get a big reward for that, will be offered will a big contract while Westbrook is gonna be up for a trade. It's weird but it's possible as Dennis is just a consistent player, more if he is given more minutes.

It looks like the Lakers' management is obviously up to something. At least for me, it was a surprise that they first announced the signing of Beverley, and now they decided to sign Schroeder as well. So the Lakers have a lot of point guard players on the roster right now. I guess the Lakers will either trade Westbrook or keep him but reduce his playing time significantly to use Beverley and Schroeder more.

I have been trying to figure out what they are trying to do on their team but to no avail. It is hard to figure them usually at offseason. They still have a few days before the season begins so we might still see some acquisitions or trades happen. We will see what they are up to, hopefully.
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September 18, 2022, 09:32:28 PM
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Not only he made a big mistake by turning down that offer, but he is also making mistake now coming back as well. This team is not as good as that one, plus they got Westbrook, which means that Dennis will be at best a backup PG and not get a lot of minutes, maybe like 20 minutes a game, being possibly the best player of the second unit is not a bad decision, he could get some stats but, but that team has 3 superstars, meaning one of them could be on the floor at all times while the other one rests and that could result with Dennis not getting any good stats neither. He should have found a team that has an open spot at PG he could work for and get some stats, that would have worked better for him.

I think if he could have found a better team he would have. I don’t know the exact reason his value fell so much so fast, but I assume it probably has something to do with his behavior in the aftermath of turning down his massive contract offer. The Lakers giving him a second chance might end up saving his career.

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September 18, 2022, 09:53:54 PM
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With the news that Russell Westbrook will be coming off the bench this year most likely, I’m wondering who is going to be the starting PG for the Lakers. I think Dennis Schroder is the better player, but they’re paying Pat Beverly like 10x as much. If Dennis Schroder is the starter, I wonder if there’s another example of a starting PG making 20x less than their backup (Westbrook). That’s a pretty good sign of terrible team management unless the starting PG is on a rookie contract.

It will be Dennis for sure, maybe that was the plan why they got him in the first place, him the starting PG and then they will have the luxury now to have Westbrook coming from the bench. So it might be a big chance for WB, but if it will do good for the Lakers then it's worth giving a try. Pat might be used sparingly as a PG, but if there is someone that needs to be played defense in the opposite team then that is Pat's strong suit, let's say they face the Warriors, then for sure his only task that game is to guard Steph Curry.

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September 18, 2022, 10:46:55 PM
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I'm more surprised about signing Schroder again but when we look at it more carefully, they are really into making some positive changes with the team, and this time they are really serious about it....
What's to be surprised about signing a new PG? They've been looking for WB's replacement for months now but no team is in a rush to accept the Laker's terms for the deal.

Serious about positive change after signing Schroeder huh? It's not that they really have much of a choice after a disappointing 2021-2022 season. They could have landed better a better PG if they were more serious about it.

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With Beverly and Schroeder Lakers is forming a good key role player to play along with their stars, A great addition
and if all of them are healthy this upcoming season, the chance not to be eliminated earlier is very possible.
I'm still not so sure about going deep in the playoffs but they could at least be in the top ten teams in the Western conference this time hehe. They could rank higher than the Spurs or Jazz next regular season.

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September 18, 2022, 11:14:17 PM
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Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.
I guess it's already attached to his main role for the team and at the same time, he's got to prove himself. So, it seems that he's going to stay with Lakers as the management doesn't want to trade him for max cap space.
I am sure that there are good trades that awaits for him but if it's the management has decided then he'll surely going to show everyone that he's going to play with the team better this time.

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September 18, 2022, 11:36:11 PM
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Signing Schroeder at that price is a lucky break fpr the Lakers. One that they badly needed too I must say. At least now they don't have to worry too much about an underperforming WB since they have someone willing to prove himself again.

Don't get hyped at Dennis Schroder. Did you see him making big news about winning and carrying a team after he left the Lakers? He was transferred to a team with not many superstars and yet you can't see him in big news carrying a team.

Dennis Schroder is overrated. I will still pick Westbrook over him. Westbrook already proves that even if he does stat padding, he can carry a team. Dennis Schroder still needs to eat lots of grain of rice before becoming better over Westbrook.
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September 18, 2022, 11:49:30 PM
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They got lucky with that one, but at the same time Schroeder is also lucky as he might struggle to get a contract if Lakers did not signed him.
It's his 2nd chance, I'm sure he can prove himself, but hopefully he will not decline a possible offer for extension.

Disagree with you both. Lakers got a lucky signing at Schroder?

If you guys didn't know, no teams got interested in signing Schroder, only the Lakers, and look at what they offered, so low because they just want to give him chance. Schroder is the one that got lucky that the Lakers give him a chance.

If he is really a potential player, why his former teams decided not to sign him anymore?

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September 19, 2022, 12:08:36 AM
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Not only he made a big mistake by turning down that offer, but he is also making mistake now coming back as well. This team is not as good as that one, plus they got Westbrook, which means that Dennis will be at best a backup PG and not get a lot of minutes, maybe like 20 minutes a game, being possibly the best player of the second unit is not a bad decision, he could get some stats but, but that team has 3 superstars, meaning one of them could be on the floor at all times while the other one rests and that could result with Dennis not getting any good stats neither. He should have found a team that has an open spot at PG he could work for and get some stats, that would have worked better for him.

To be honest, I believe he deserves this second chance because he has done a lot to deserve it. Nonetheless, if you asked me why he deserved it, I probably wouldn't be able to give you a good answer to your question.

However, I still believe that he has the potential to perform well in the future. At this point, I do not think that he will be able to do anything that will really save his career, especially when he is already 29 years old. Although I think he would be able to perform better with the Lakers since he knows that he will have a second chance with the team. It will be up to him to prove his worth.

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September 19, 2022, 12:42:06 AM
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They got lucky with that one, but at the same time Schroeder is also lucky as he might struggle to get a contract if Lakers did not signed him.
It's his 2nd chance, I'm sure he can prove himself, but hopefully he will not decline a possible offer for extension.

Disagree with you both. Lakers got a lucky signing at Schroder?

If you guys didn't know, no teams got interested in signing Schroder, only the Lakers, and look at what they offered, so low because they just want to give him chance. Schroder is the one that got lucky that the Lakers give him a chance.

If he is really a potential player, why his former teams decided not to sign him anymore?

For the Lakers this is probably the best they could have hoped for.  They don't have the money to sign anyone special and Schroeder is more than decent for that kind of money.  He is a serviceable veteran who can help them run the point.  As long as the big guys stay healthy he won't need to score, just run a turnover free point and that's all they need from him.

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September 19, 2022, 03:40:22 AM
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With the news that Russell Westbrook will be coming off the bench this year most likely, I’m wondering who is going to be the starting PG for the Lakers. I think Dennis Schroder is the better player, but they’re paying Pat Beverly like 10x as much. If Dennis Schroder is the starter, I wonder if there’s another example of a starting PG making 20x less than their backup (Westbrook). That’s a pretty good sign of terrible team management unless the starting PG is on a rookie contract.
Looking at the current roster of the Lakers, I don't see any point guard that can be a starter aside from Schroder and Westbrook.
Did a quick search on this one and I think it's only a possibility that he might come out of the bench as per Coach Ham said.

If this will happen, then I guess the Lakers will go with Schroder as their starting point guard. The management of the team has been terrible since they won a title back in the bubble. Traded role players for a player who isn't fit for them, choices that made the team even worse. The Lakers got many criticisms for all of their wrong decisions last season, and it might continue again this season. I don't know but I think they are like the Knicks in a different way.

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If you guys didn't know, no teams got interested in signing Schroder, only the Lakers, and look at what they offered, so low because they just want to give him chance. Schroder is the one that got lucky that the Lakers give him a chance.

If he is really a potential player, why his former teams decided not to sign him anymore?
I agree with this one.

After that 4-year $84M rejection made by Schroder, no teams are interested on him anymore. He really is lucky that he got an offer from the Lakers though it's only a veteran minimum deal. That shows that no team is interested on him anymore and on the other hand, Schroder played well in his last stint with the Lakers although he got some criticisms in his last playoffs.

I also don't see him as a potential player either but a back-up point guard only. I wonder why Coach Ham is saying that Westbrook might be coming off the bench. Maybe there is a chance that Schroder might end up as their starting point guard.

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He added that he didn’t think he gave everything he could to the Lakers as he played alongside LeBron James and Anthony Davis, who he considers “two of the best players in the NBA.” Schröder continued, “At the end of the day, I feel like for me, personally, I got to be comfortable in the environment I’m in. I love the Lakers organization and they did great things, but I think for me, and this is just business, I don’t think I fit in 100 percent.”
https://hypebeast.com/2021/9/dennis-schroder-explains-why-he-turned-down-84-million-usd-los-angeles-lakers-deal-boston-celtics
So when he turn down that $84 million contract, him and his agent says that he is not a perfect fight with the Lakers.
And now he change his tune, and agreed with a minimum contract? What a sudden change of event, isn't it. From "I don't what to play with AD and Lebron because I can't evolved and i don't need that money, to now, I'm fine with $2 million, show me the money!!!".
Wow! If that is true then we all know why it went sour for him.
A hypocrite player plus a bad agent is a recipe for disaster. I doubt he will get a better contract after this. He must show something different in this 1-year contract playing for the Lakers to please other teams and offer better than a veteran contract.
He's already creating a new path by showing his skills again in the Eurobasket, he should've used that as his upper hand as there are many scouts lurking around that league to make offers to a lot of European players.
Well, I bet he and his agent cannot wait anymore.

Dennis Schroder is 29 years old but it does feel like he is really old for some reason. And I really can't explain why. And I really think that the price that they have accepted is actually okay. Not that cheap in my opinion. And with this price tag, he is going to be a really good value for money. But I hope that he will be able to perform well with the Lakers. But I hope at this age he has not become prone to injury. Staying healthy is going to be a big priority for him.
Wow, on the contrary I always thought he is quite a young player than he is. His playing style is also energetic, so he never seemed old to me. He was born in 1993, it could still be his prime years. Personally, I like the Lakers' move a lot. Schröder played really good in the Eurobasket Tournament and with responsibility. He could be the guard Lakers needs. I can understand the situation with Westbrook but he can still be a not starter and contribute to the team a lot. Westbrook is 33 years old(born in 88), gonna be 34 soon, and he was not in his prime last year, obviously. Schrönder can be the driving force Lakers needed. And still get a big help from Westbrook.

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September 19, 2022, 07:02:37 AM
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Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.
I guess it's already attached to his main role for the team and at the same time, he's got to prove himself. So, it seems that he's going to stay with Lakers as the management doesn't want to trade him for max cap space.
I am sure that there are good trades that awaits for him but if it's the management has decided then he'll surely going to show everyone that he's going to play with the team better this time.

Something that he really needs to do while staying under Lakers' uniform,

He needs to show a lot of adjustment accepting his role and play with the system, with him playing the same old Russ
offensive threat wise he still has an upper edge compared to other stars. If he's on a mission to prove something, this
upcoming season is his best chance to impress the lakers fans.
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September 19, 2022, 10:43:09 AM
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... Slimmer and looks more fit.
Following the Howard strategy eh? Good for him. Maybe not a bad deal for teams if they can sign at minimum for a veteran.

He is serious, he wants to be faster and less prone to injury, well, I understand him because teams would not sign a liability even if they know how talented Cousins is.
IMO, if scouts will look out at what he did in Denver Nuggets that should be enough reason to sign him again. Not at the stats, the performance, the intensity he built whenever he entered the floor.
Now he is adding some spice to it by being more fit to avoid injuries so that he will be more valuable for any team that will pick him.
I guess that should add a bigger reason to receive a contract.

There are more known players that are still free agents.
DJ Agustin
Avery Bradley
When it comes to offensive power. Cousins and Melo are the names on top.

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September 19, 2022, 11:08:17 AM
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Yes, it's arguable that Russ could come back and show revenge to everyone that hasn't shown some love for him. But can't blame those doubters of him.
So, if he stays with the Lakers and there will be a new coach for them, I guess that's where he should bounce back and prove everyone wrong. It shouldn't be a blame game though as it's always a team play for this sport. But when there's a hole on the team, whether it's from the player, from the coaching staff, there should be ways of fixing it.

It's not good for the team if Westbrook is only thinking about that, what he should do is to make sure that this time he will be effective for the role that was given to him, and bouncing back while proving something is not a bad choice either but he should know that there's right timing for that because if he will rush it then the team will probably suffer and he will be blamed again for his actions. They should start working together as a team and leave no one behind when there are some problems.
I guess it's already attached to his main role for the team and at the same time, he's got to prove himself. So, it seems that he's going to stay with Lakers as the management doesn't want to trade him for max cap space.
I am sure that there are good trades that awaits for him but if it's the management has decided then he'll surely going to show everyone that he's going to play with the team better this time.
He needs to show a lot of adjustment accepting his role and play with the system, with him playing the same old Russ
offensive threat wise he still has an upper edge compared to other stars. If he's on a mission to prove something, this
upcoming season is his best chance to impress the lakers fans.

Getting more guard in the rooster is like humiliating Westbrook because it shows that there team doesn't trust him anymore. That's why he really need to work hard on this so that he can regain back the trust of Lakers fan since if he disappoint them for second time again for sure he's career will be at risk and his all star status maybe taken out of his name plus his value might badly drop.

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