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September 23, 2022, 01:16:07 PM
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Maybe the ethics committee in the NBA or Boston's management voted for Udoka's suspension. These NBA players and staff have written contracts pretty sure, every bad action they do represents the NBA and their teams too. I am surprised by the entire 2022-2023 suspension but it is what it is. So the betting odds favorite team this season is without its previous season coach.
Perhaps that's the case.
I don't know why they would agree with that. It takes out the freedom of being a normal human being and just having a job as a coach. (Udoka as an exception because there's no full story yet)
IMO, they might be too strict about it, there are certain fields like the one you shared below that should not be taken out to the media or whatever.
Minor problems. Family-related issues. I doubt NBA will be affected by it. They should not make it a bigger problem.

Meanwhile, Philly's coach Doc Rivers has gone viral lately after being caught liking porn videos. Cheesy But this isn't ground for a penalty or suspension though. And they're trying to make an alibi that the account was hacked.
Well, that's new if they are not "enforcing" anything. So what if he is watching and liking porn. In this era of millennials and the internet, it became a norm.  Cheesy

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September 23, 2022, 01:27:38 PM
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In case some don't know, Udoka had "an improper intimate and consensual relationship with a female member of the team staff."  that's why he got suspended and he apologized for it. I don't know if this is a big news but I'm pretty sure that the Celtics franchise is heavily affected by this one. He has been a very good coach in his first season, and he led the Celtics to NBA Finals. Their assistant coach, Joe Mazzulla will be their interim head coach. 

Any thoughts with this one? How will the Celtics be affected by this?
Surely a hiccup for the entire franchise considering how huge his difference on them. Surely they'll move on from this one but was the franchise was too hasty on their decisions? I don't think so too, perhaps it's to tell that they abide on their policies. The entire franchise will surely be affected tbh.
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September 23, 2022, 01:46:15 PM
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In case some don't know, Udoka had "an improper intimate and consensual relationship with a female member of the team staff."  that's why he got suspended and he apologized for it. I don't know if this is a big news but I'm pretty sure that the Celtics franchise is heavily affected by this one. He has been a very good coach in his first season, and he led the Celtics to NBA Finals. Their assistant coach, Joe Mazzulla will be their interim head coach. 

Any thoughts with this one? How will the Celtics be affected by this?
Surely a hiccup for the entire franchise considering how huge his difference on them. Surely they'll move on from this one but was the franchise was too hasty on their decisions? I don't think so too, perhaps it's to tell that they abide on their policies. The entire franchise will surely be affected tbh.

As we can see in the championship odds, https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/championship-odds.. Celtics are the top favorites, but with this big news, I doubt they will stay as the top favorite, so I think getting the Warriors still gives the best value.
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September 23, 2022, 04:27:42 PM
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I'm sorry for spoiling the Wolves discussion but are users here aware that Ime Udoka has been suspended for the upcoming 2022-2023 NBA season. Just this time, they already given his sanction and that is to suspend him for the whole season.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/celtics-coach-ime-udoka-suspended-2022-23-season-rcna49079
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The Boston Celtics have suspended coach Ime Udoka for the 2022-23 season, effective immediately, and with no guarantee he will be back with the franchise in the future.

In case some don't know, Udoka had "an improper intimate and consensual relationship with a female member of the team staff."  that's why he got suspended and he apologized for it. I don't know if this is a big news but I'm pretty sure that the Celtics franchise is heavily affected by this one. He has been a very good coach in his first season, and he led the Celtics to NBA Finals. Their assistant coach, Joe Mazzulla will be their interim head coach.  

Any thoughts with this one? How will the Celtics be affected by this?

It's a little strange to me how professional sports has gotten so anti-workplace relationships.  Cheerleaders are threatened with the loss of their job if they converse with players, even outside of the workplace.  Now coaches can't bang who they want (granted he was married to Nia Long so the guy is an idiot)...  I think maybe it's about time to stop policing relationships between consenting adults.  You know this sort of thing is happening all over the league in every sport.  Seems like the NBA is speeding down a slippery slope with this one.

I am by no means promoting it but I think this has been prevalent in sports, hollywood, etc for a long time.  With the rise of social media and movements lime the me too movement I just think the public is hearing about it much more

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September 23, 2022, 06:50:20 PM
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Why did nobody said Wolves? I mean nobody expects them to be champions this year for sure, but they got Gobert and he is a good player and that improved Wolves a lot. It gives KAT to actually be power forward as well which he could be very good for and could cook smaller defenders down there, with two giants on the floor at the same time, they could end up with a lot more wins compared to last year.

If we are talking about teams that improved the most, then Wolves could be the best one, doesn't mean they will be improving to an amazing level, but from tanking to playoffs or thereabouts would be an amazing improvement for any team to have in a single off-season.

Well, how can I say this, I think it's quite safe to say that there may be only a handful of people here in this forum who believe or expect that the Minnesota Timberwolves will the champion this season. Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.
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September 23, 2022, 08:39:16 PM
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Why did nobody said Wolves? I mean nobody expects them to be champions this year for sure, but they got Gobert and he is a good player and that improved Wolves a lot. It gives KAT to actually be power forward as well which he could be very good for and could cook smaller defenders down there, with two giants on the floor at the same time, they could end up with a lot more wins compared to last year.

If we are talking about teams that improved the most, then Wolves could be the best one, doesn't mean they will be improving to an amazing level, but from tanking to playoffs or thereabouts would be an amazing improvement for any team to have in a single off-season.

Well, how can I say this, I think it's quite safe to say that there may be only a handful of people here in this forum who believe or expect that the Minnesota Timberwolves will the champion this season. Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.

They are definitely going to make waves in the west.  Haven't looked at the odds but they have to have pretty good odds for the finals.  They need a lot of things to fall in place but I don't think they are very far off.  If ant takes the next step, they could be a tough out.

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September 23, 2022, 09:03:35 PM
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Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.


Exactly! they might be improved this upcoming season but they are not alone who's doing the improvements

Maybe we will see them competing in the playoffs, but the west side are full of superb teams, a lot of competitive lineups that
are around, especially the defending champ. They are still in the upper hand with the same core that they've got and those
young rookies who are also adopting the same system, they are keeping on improving while other teams are trying to build
chemistries, GSW are just keep on improving their system.
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September 23, 2022, 09:45:34 PM
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I guess it's huge news for them, he is one who changes the franchise last year, so him being absent this season wherein they are one of the favorites because of how they manage to go to the finals.
Not sure though what is happening around the league, I mean I thought this is an open secret. Players bang everyone, and as far as I can remember, Magic Johnson got the AIDS virus because he was "intimate" to many females during his playing time.

It will be major changes for them unless the one who will gonna take his place is capable enough to tame the Celtic stars. I can't believe they still do such a thing to their staff considering relationships such as this one are no longer a surprise for anyone out there. I guess because he is a coach and married too. to have intimate relationships with other women seems not a good thing because when you are a coach you are simply a role model. They are just simply cutting some damage that might gonna happen if he is still the coach of the team.

I am not familiar with Joe Mazzulla, but he is named the interim coach of the Boston Celtics. He will be taking the reign while Ime Udoka is in suspension.

Just when everything looks good for the Celtics, then this news came out. They could win this year with the experience they have built up last year, they are more prepared to take the championship this year. I just hope that the interim coach is capable enough to lead Tatum and Brown.

It's a little strange to me how professional sports has gotten so anti-workplace relationships.  Cheerleaders are threatened with the loss of their job if they converse with players, even outside of the workplace.  Now coaches can't bang who they want (granted he was married to Nia Long so the guy is an idiot)...  I think maybe it's about time to stop policing relationships between consenting adults.  You know this sort of thing is happening all over the league in every sport.  Seems like the NBA is speeding down a slippery slope with this one.
Yeah, that's my question too. Why the suspension? Did the woman he banged didn't agree to it to make it a rape case?
I mean, if he has a wife then it's the wife that should file a case then the law will take care of it. I understand the Sarver case because many complaints were received inside the NBA environment but I don't know about this one with Udoka.
He is not yet telling any details or statements, just an apology. So he is guilty, but there are blanks.

The report did say that it is a consensual relationship with a female staff, so it is not rape.

Coaches are held to the highest standard, though I think a year's suspension is too much, that just means that the Celtics are serious in imposing their policies and that they expected their coaches to be in their best conduct. They know that this suspension may affect their bid for the championship, but they still imposed it.

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September 23, 2022, 09:53:44 PM
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Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.


Exactly! they might be improved this upcoming season but they are not alone who's doing the improvements

Maybe we will see them competing in the playoffs, but the west side are full of superb teams, a lot of competitive lineups that
are around, especially the defending champ. They are still in the upper hand with the same core that they've got and those
young rookies who are also adopting the same system, they are keeping on improving while other teams are trying to build
chemistries, GSW are just keep on improving their system.

To many teams upgrade their line up so we cannot say immediately that they became a title contender already since many teams create good movements so that they can compete with existing champion next season. I'm still impressed how GSW do to their team because they value to much their rooster and enhance the chemistry on their team. Maybe other should follow this action since chemistry is vital to team the success.

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September 23, 2022, 10:07:16 PM
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Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.


Exactly! they might be improved this upcoming season but they are not alone who's doing the improvements

Maybe we will see them competing in the playoffs, but the west side are full of superb teams, a lot of competitive lineups that
are around, especially the defending champ. They are still in the upper hand with the same core that they've got and those
young rookies who are also adopting the same system, they are keeping on improving while other teams are trying to build
chemistries, GSW are just keep on improving their system.

To many teams upgrade their line up so we cannot say immediately that they became a title contender already since many teams create good movements so that they can compete with existing champion next season. I'm still impressed how GSW do to their team because they value to much their rooster and enhance the chemistry on their team. Maybe other should follow this action since chemistry is vital to team the success.

I actually think the opposite.  I don't know of many teams that upgraded better than Timberwolves, cavs and atlanta.  Denver will get better sheerly because Jamal and mjp will be playing.  Same with the Clippers.  If they can keep kawhi and pg3 on the court they upgraded by just getting healthy.  Same with the Lakers with AD. 

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It's a little strange to me how professional sports has gotten so anti-workplace relationships.  Cheerleaders are threatened with the loss of their job if they converse with players, even outside of the workplace.  Now coaches can't bang who they want (granted he was married to Nia Long so the guy is an idiot)...  I think maybe it's about time to stop policing relationships between consenting adults.  You know this sort of thing is happening all over the league in every sport.  Seems like the NBA is speeding down a slippery slope with this one.
Yeah, that's my question too. Why the suspension? Did the woman he banged didn't agree to it to make it a rape case?
I mean, if he has a wife then it's the wife that should file a case then the law will take care of it. I understand the Sarver case because many complaints were received inside the NBA environment but I don't know about this one with Udoka.
He is not yet telling any details or statements, just an apology. So he is guilty, but there are blanks.

The report did say that it is a consensual relationship with a female staff, so it is not rape.

Coaches are held to the highest standard, though I think a year's suspension is too much, that just means that the Celtics are serious in imposing their policies and that they expected their coaches to be in their best conduct. They know that this suspension may affect their bid for the championship, but they still imposed it.

After seeing Matt Barnes post that he was wrong originally and that this is an absolutely crazy situation where Udoka is in the wrong, it has me thinking this situation may be worse than originally portrayed. Barnes said he got a call from someone who knew the details and that was enough to make him change his mind. So maybe this isn’t just another woke cancellation. I suspect the details will be public soon.

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September 23, 2022, 11:16:43 PM
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Well, it's their way of ranking and that's how they put it up. I have no problem with their rankings and I don't see some of the players that I admire and am a fan of but that's okay.
No problem with Harden, it's like what they're expecting him to play, and as for KD and LBJ. Both are aging but still, they can play very well although KD is prone to injuries.

Yup, it's their ranking and whatever the basis, they are the one who picks it.

Harden might bring good season this year after cutting his salaries and ask for the sixers to bring all the help that they can
get just to be more competitive, I'm sure all the adjustments are now being work between sixers stars and they are now
up for these new challenges.
Well, he's really in control of his own and thinks of what is a must thing to do for the stepping up of his team. With the current roster they have, it may not be that encouraging to see that they'll be able to beat those teams that have more than 3-4 superstars.

With regard to who is better between LeBron and KD, I might say both are still good but I follow
you with KD's injury prone compared with LeBron.
I guess it's got something to do with how they train, we all know how Lebron trains and invests a lot for it.

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September 23, 2022, 11:41:03 PM
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Why did nobody said Wolves? I mean nobody expects them to be champions this year for sure, but they got Gobert and he is a good player and that improved Wolves a lot. It gives KAT to actually be power forward as well which he could be very good for and could cook smaller defenders down there, with two giants on the floor at the same time, they could end up with a lot more wins compared to last year.

If we are talking about teams that improved the most, then Wolves could be the best one, doesn't mean they will be improving to an amazing level, but from tanking to playoffs or thereabouts would be an amazing improvement for any team to have in a single off-season.

Well, how can I say this, I think it's quite safe to say that there may be only a handful of people here in this forum who believe or expect that the Minnesota Timberwolves will the champion this season. Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.

Yeah, the Wolves roster looks really interesting, but I think a lot of fans still don't fully understand what to expect from this team. Obviously, KAT and Gobert will dominate in the paint, but I don't rule out that these two might not have enough chemistry on the court, and that could potentially be a problem for the Wolves in terms of reaching the semifinal or final series.

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Yeah, the Wolves roster looks really interesting, but I think a lot of fans still don't fully understand what to expect from this team. Obviously, KAT and Gobert will dominate in the paint, but I don't rule out that these two might not have enough chemistry on the court, and that could potentially be a problem for the Wolves in terms of reaching the semifinal or final series.

Wolves are like Utah Jazz where they are creating hype in the eliminations but always ended up short at the post-eliminations.

Karl Anthony Towns is also not taking the paint as his primary comfort zone now as he's now seen draining perimeter and 3-points.

But enough of this speculation as we just have to wait if the new Wolves will now be a different one.

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September 23, 2022, 11:59:05 PM
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To many teams upgrade their line up so we cannot say immediately that they became a title contender already since many teams create good movements so that they can compete with existing champion next season. I'm still impressed how GSW do to their team because they value to much their rooster and enhance the chemistry on their team. Maybe other should follow this action since chemistry is vital to team the success.
Well, sad to say about the GSW, they didn't managed to keep the whole championship roster that they've got before as they need to release a few of them and do some trades.

But for those teams that are really trying to pick the best for their roster. It's per season that we see them like that because every team's goal to be the season's champ no matter how strong the other teams are.

There are super teams like we've seen in Lakers but they lost so, it's no guarantee that even a team is composed of great players, they can still be beaten.

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Wolves might have improved but they aren't the only team in the league who improved so much in the recent season, and they should acquire more experience to be able to reach at least Conference Finals.


Exactly! they might be improved this upcoming season but they are not alone who's doing the improvements

Maybe we will see them competing in the playoffs, but the west side are full of superb teams, a lot of competitive lineups that
are around, especially the defending champ. They are still in the upper hand with the same core that they've got and those
young rookies who are also adopting the same system, they are keeping on improving while other teams are trying to build
chemistries, GSW are just keep on improving their system.

To many teams upgrade their line up so we cannot say immediately that they became a title contender already since many teams create good movements so that they can compete with existing champion next season. I'm still impressed how GSW do to their team because they value to much their rooster and enhance the chemistry on their team. Maybe other should follow this action since chemistry is vital to team the success.

GSW has a holistic approach to their organizations, they kept their pieces together, Steph, Klay and Draymond. And then move around players until they find a perfect fit, Poole and Wiggins, getting role players and then drafting players that are under the radar.

So this is what a blueprint of a franchise is, and this is no secret, from the Bulls, to the Lakers to San Antonio this is what they are going so teams should emulate it. But I guess it's difficult to find the perfect player for a franchise specially in this era as they keep moving from one team to another.

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^ They just resigned Andre Iguodala to another year, his 19th season in the league. His response when asked about it was funny. He said to tell Stephen Curry this is definitely his last year. I don’t envision him playing many minutes this season, but I can see him being a Udonis Haslem type player there to help out in the locker room and keep the guys’ heads on straight.

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September 24, 2022, 12:44:05 AM
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Well, sad to say about the GSW, they didn't managed to keep the whole championship roster that they've got before as they need to release a few of them and do some trades.

I don't think that's a problem for Golden State Warriors as their core lineup is still intact.

Yes, I agree that those who departed are key players but not to the extent that releasing them will turn this team into the worst one.

The Warriors are still having their championship lineup.

^ They just resigned Andre Iguodala to another year, his 19th season in the league. His response when asked about it was funny. He said to tell Stephen Curry this is definitely his last year. I don’t envision him playing many minutes this season, but I can see him being a Udonis Haslem type player there to help out in the locker room and keep the guys’ heads on straight.

Just read this news and it's a good decision for him to still consider 1 more season. The warriors also did a great move.

He can still play I believed and not just hug the bench as an advisor like Udonis Haslem. But yes, we are not talking about around 10 MPG here. Cheesy
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September 24, 2022, 12:50:39 AM
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^ They just resigned Andre Iguodala to another year, his 19th season in the league. His response when asked about it was funny. He said to tell Stephen Curry this is definitely his last year. I don’t envision him playing many minutes this season, but I can see him being a Udonis Haslem type player there to help out in the locker room and keep the guys’ heads on straight.

Oh ok, when I saw AI name as one of those veterans who haven't got a contract yet, I say that the Warriors are not going to sign him. But lo and behold, he pull some strings and then he is back again with them. For sure he will be like that, not playing many minutes but there to guide the young guys just like him and Draymond is doing for the rest of their young core. And I wouldn't be surprised if he become part of the management when he retires then eventually work his way out to become the coach or like president of basketball operations for the Warriors.

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September 24, 2022, 03:20:07 AM
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^ They just resigned Andre Iguodala to another year, his 19th season in the league. His response when asked about it was funny. He said to tell Stephen Curry this is definitely his last year. I don’t envision him playing many minutes this season, but I can see him being a Udonis Haslem type player there to help out in the locker room and keep the guys’ heads on straight.

Oh ok, when I saw AI name as one of those veterans who haven't got a contract yet, I say that the Warriors are not going to sign him. But lo and behold, he pull some strings and then he is back again with them. For sure he will be like that, not playing many minutes but there to guide the young guys just like him and Draymond is doing for the rest of their young core. And I wouldn't be surprised if he become part of the management when he retires then eventually work his way out to become the coach or like president of basketball operations for the Warriors.

He deserve to play with the Warriors with a new contract, Iggy was one of the reasons why the Warrriors are successful, if you still remember, he won a finals MVP for a job well done on limiting Lebron James in the NBA finals, and though he is already a veteran, but he still has a lot to offer.
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