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November 07, 2015, 10:46:55 PM |
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I will never support anything other than the original Bitcoin Core client unless the far majority of the pools and such decide otherwise. The votings tell that 99% of the votes are against XT, which says enough.
I agree they would need overwhelming support
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(I am a 1MB block supporter who thinks all users should be using Full-Node clients) Avoid the XT shills, they only want to destroy bitcoin, their hubris and greed will destroy us. Know your adversary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg
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hdbuck
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November 07, 2015, 11:00:52 PM |
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Miners are the last one with the power to choose of force/change something.
Miners are Gods here, everyone else dance the way they want or no one and nothing dances at all because the next block would be mined around the time Universe colapses. Keep in mind that by now most miners already paid-off their hardware and can just dump mined BTC and walk away. oh yea may them walk away hashing for nasdaq while you're at it.
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cjmoles
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November 08, 2015, 01:22:10 AM |
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I'm new here. Is bitcoin broken or about to be broken? From what I gather here....bitcoin seems to be becoming antiquated but nobody can figure out how to keep the blockchain healthy. It seems that one side doesn't want it to change and the other side wants it to change too fast and too much. I cannot figure out which side the shills are on. If bitcoin is in danger of becoming antiquated, we might need to figure out the most efficient solution to avoid that from happening, or another technology WILL take over....plain and simple.
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HostFat
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November 08, 2015, 01:30:14 AM |
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I'm new here. Is bitcoin broken or about to be broken? From what I gather here....bitcoin seems to be becoming antiquated but nobody can figure out how to keep the blockchain healthy. It seems that one side doesn't want it to change and the other side wants it to change too fast and too much. I cannot figure out which side the shills are on. If bitcoin is in danger of becoming antiquated, we might need to figure out the most efficient solution to avoid that from happening, or another technology WILL take over....plain and simple.
Someone here thinks that people out of here will wait forever for solution to their problems. They think that Bitcoin will live forever as the only one. How many of you are still using Napster/Winmx/Kazaa/DirectConnect/Shareaza/eDonkey/eMule... instead of BitTorrent to download files? Are you all waiting to know what will be the BitTorrent (killer) of the Bitcoin? Without innovation, Bitcoin is already waiting for its death.
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danielW
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November 08, 2015, 02:24:06 AM |
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I would like to have a rational explanation about why you people think free choices must be fighted. And how does that fit bitcoin vision.
What we are not allowed to criticise XT and say its bad for Bitcoin? The answer to your question is: it must be fought because its a choice that is bad for Bitcoin. Who ever said free choices can not be fought? If somebody makes a free choice to rob my house can I fight their free choice?
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Stringer Bell
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November 08, 2015, 10:00:32 AM |
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Users "knight22" and "meono", and their ilk, don't posses any other skill they can use to earn a living.
So they must resort to shilling. Can you imagine dedicating your whole day to spreading lies?
What a pathetic existence they must live. When you look back on your life, will you feel proud for attempting to destroy one of the most positive developments mankind has ever seen?
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November 08, 2015, 10:17:54 AM |
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I run a Bitcoin Core full node for months and I will definitely not change that. Pools are boss, I support whatever choice they make. It's fully clear that no one is waiting for XT beside a few rebellious people. If you guys want to develop your XT project further, make an announcement thread in the altcoin section. Good luck.
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LiteCoinGuy
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November 08, 2015, 10:22:20 AM |
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Users "knight22" and "meono", and their ilk, don't posses any other skill they can use to earn a living.
So they must resort to shilling. Can you imagine dedicating your whole day to spreading lies?
What a pathetic existence they must live. When you look back on your life, will you feel proud for attempting to destroy one of the most positive developments mankind has ever seen?
maybe they just want a solution in the blocksize debate? maybe they just want bitcoin to succeed and scale? hopefully the next 3 months will bring that solution. @HostFat good point. to be static at this stage means death.
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November 08, 2015, 10:40:33 AM |
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Come on, XT is only a way to democratically and gradually increase block size . Maybe it is not the final or the best solution, but 7 tx per second is really too few yo imagine a working btc economy.... We need this to be resolved BEFORE it becomes an issue.
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hdbuck
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November 08, 2015, 10:41:29 AM |
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Come on, XT is only a way to democratically and gradually increase block size . Maybe it is not the final or the best solution, but 7 tx per second is really too few yo imagine a working btc economy.... We need this to be resolved BEFORE it becomes an issue.
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November 08, 2015, 10:44:42 AM |
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Come on, XT is only a way to democratically and gradually increase block size . Maybe it is not the final or the best solution, but 7 tx per second is really too few yo imagine a working btc economy.... We need this to be resolved BEFORE it becomes an issue.
the proble is that xt pretend to add features that they think they are useful when they are clearly not, like that shit about the IP traceability the problem is the limit? good, fix that only, don't touch anything else, this cna be implemented easily in core, without changing its name to fancy thing like XT/zeta/super ....
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Denker
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November 08, 2015, 10:59:11 AM |
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I agree that concerning the blocksize something has to happen. And I believe we will solve this issue. But I will never support XT to achieve this. There are several other options and in december we will see it. And I wonder why again the XT guys try to make trouble.Hearn isn't even going to HK and is acting like a small kid who doesn't get what he wants. That guy means pure trouble imo.
I say it again.Yes to blocksize increase as far as possible under the conditions that Bitcoin stays decentralized as much as possible.Go with 2 or 4 MB whatever. But no to XT!!!!
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Posum578
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November 08, 2015, 11:16:56 AM |
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The rise of block size to 2MB or higher is essential in the next two years to make bitcoin usable for most people and not to increase the transaction fee too much.
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gambit1
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November 08, 2015, 12:03:29 PM |
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I don't know that much about the topic; I feel like a newcomer to the Israel/Palestine conflict. I know some of the basics I suppose but the level of vitriol is amazing. Who should I support? Also if anyone needs any "paid shills" my rates are quite reasonable . (That last part was a joke, I should probably point that out).
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da2ce7
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November 08, 2015, 02:51:48 PM |
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The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves. Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github). It is kinda funny seeing Coinbase come out in support for XT, since the entire technical community has moved on. To make it short: XT is treated as joke. (in the technical community).
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One off NP-Hard.
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gambit1
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November 08, 2015, 03:00:54 PM |
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Is that cow in your signature Gavin cause it looks like Fernando Torres.
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HostFat
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November 08, 2015, 03:16:29 PM |
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The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves. Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped. All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit Maybe all of you should get back to reality http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=650&p=2467
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brg444
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November 08, 2015, 03:42:41 PM |
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The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves. Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped. All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit Maybe all of you should get back to reality http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=650&p=2467 The altcoin post... Someone should seriously ban you it's shame how desperate you are
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"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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hdbuck
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November 08, 2015, 03:53:24 PM |
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The XT crew have made lowcows of themselves. Even Gavin has moved back to working on Bitcoin Core (on github).
He has never stopped. All the claim from idiots that he was stopped developing on Bitcoin was pure shit Maybe all of you should get back to reality http://forums.prohashing.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=650&p=2467 The altcoin post... Someone should seriously ban you it's shame how desperate you are yet another example of theymos' leniency. great altcoin wet dreaming post, staff boy.
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da2ce7
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November 08, 2015, 04:02:34 PM |
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Is that cow in your signature Gavin cause it looks like Fernando Torres.
It is actually Sacha Baron Cohen in his publicity event for the movie Brüno. Quite a fitting profile picture for this forum, I think.
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One off NP-Hard.
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