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November 27, 2016, 10:08:09 AM
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Hello, all.

Please advise, could the debit cards be considered as the bank account in foreign banks?
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When getting a card from the OP list with an IBAN attached to it, can you withdraw PayPal to it?
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November 28, 2016, 12:28:51 AM
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I've been monitoring the Wirex/E-coin thread for the past weeks and some really suspicious activity has been reported by users. Many users are being unable to see funds loaded in their account, and others are unable to withdraw. Most calls for support go unanswered until users go public with their complaints. Seeing as to how other bitcoin services have silently pulled a MtGox on users with big balances we have to be extra cautious.

I'm putting Wirex/E-coin in the quarantine list and would advise everyone to stay away from their services. Here's a list of quotes from Wirex/E-coin users reporting faults in their service recently:

They are having issues with their bank. Their bank said I had reached my lifetime limits too even tho I never spent more than a few hundred dollars with my real card. Nevertheless, I contacted their support, Alena took my case and after a few days of working with the bank she successfully could transfer my funds in BTC so I could move them. I think Wirex is stuck with issues with the bank and they are trying hard to fix them.  

Alena keeps transferring my support requests to other people.
Other people keep telling me LIES about card limits.
I keep saying I had a BRAND NEW EURO card that wouldn't even load 410 EURO.
I am at the point that I am telling her to stop allowing her workers to LIE to me, give me my money back.
I am now accusing them of scam excuses and stealing.  I keep asking for my money back, and they keep lying about card limits.
I explain that I do not want to load any more cards.  I just want my money back.

They won't give it back.
HELP!

Hello

I am a customer of e-coin.
e-coin has taken my money.  410 Euros, and 252.40 USD

I have deposited bitcoin then attempted to transfer to virtual cards, not exceeding the monthly or daily limits.
The Euro card was new with no limits used for the day or month.  I tried to load the cards and received an "unknown error...."
The money was taken and not returned to my account or put on my virtual cards.

I contacted support, and was told I have reached a "lifetime limit".
I am guessing my account itself as an overall limit?  This is a NEW LIMIT e-coin created???
Because a brand new, unused EURO card was not letting me load.  I reached no daily or monthly limits.

The error message did not say I reached a limit.
It said unknown error.

I have an emergency, I must pay bills.
They said I reached a limit and did NOT return my bitcoins!   They are telling me I have to do all this verification now.  Stalling me.  I don't have time for this.  Virtual cards did not require verification in the past year.  I need to pay overdue bills NOW.  I need my money back so that I can have them back and find another service that works.

Can you please help?
Customer support is telling me I have a lifetime limit and NOT returning my money!
We are experiencing some difficulties with the USD card loading service. The service will be resumed on Monday 14 Nov 10am GMT at latest.
card loading down once again!!!?
edit: works, if you get 'service unavailable' just keep trying to load, worked eventually for me
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hi, i load debit virtual card -1006 usd, on paypal and i wait 5-6days but money i not see on my account wirex, what problem? usually take 3 days. and how register virtual debit card my choice, cardhoderonline? what taken???

so sonebody had the problem load on paypal???
Cant load card , keep getting 'Service unavailable - try again later'
edit:  cant even transfer the btcs out of ecoin!!

I'm having some issues with the service as well and gosha (OP) didn't connect since 24th october so It doesn't look too nice here...
card loading down once again!!!?
edit: works, if you get 'service unavailable' just keep trying to load, worked eventually for me

We apologize for the inconvenience. Right now the service is working normally. Please clean your browser's cache or reinstall your Wirex Mobile app and try to make your transactions. Let us know if the issue still persists.


Really working normally? Your dev team can't solve my problem more then 3 WEEKS!!! Ticket ID: 21992

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My first post was:
 Re: Bitcoin debit card
November 01, 2016, 09:37:31 PM

I don't get my bitcoins today. I got this error:

Buy Failed - Ref 63adcb8456014345b3db36380fba4b77

# 1353719 EUR->BTC   Pending   BTC+0.149023

Please complete my order, thank you
Hey, I am not able to deposit bitcoin. I tried it on both ecoin website and wirex app in both the cases I am not able to see my deposit address I also sent a support ticket about 24hrs ago I haven't got any reply yet.
Take care when using wirex... transfer to credit card was failed and they are holding my bitcoin (500$) since 3 days without any reply to multiple support request.



E-Coin has been keeping 500$ of mine hostage. I can't fucking believe this...

I loaded my account with my hard earned money to go on a shopping spree for Christmas... Their support doesn't respond and the money doesn't even appear in my account in spite of the transaction having been confirmed for more than 4 days. Thanks for ruining Christmas so early E-Coin. This is perfectly valid evidence to suspect that E-Coin is planning on turning into a scam, if you can pull out money from them, stop using their services now!
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November 28, 2016, 01:07:32 AM
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I think that we're in agreement, I was just suggesting to hat users that accusations should better come with evidence.

After talking in PM with him, he somehow had the staff to answer my tickets...

But this should be a clear warning to everyone that this is no way to handle a online business to have to make bad talk on a forum to be able to get answer on a damn ticket...

By the way, my money still gone.. they are looking into it... they must wait answer from bank?? even tho the money deposited on the card clearly says ''failed transfer'' i dont understand what bank has to do with this... money failed to transfer to them... you are the one i deposited bitcoin to, not them, if you do not put money on my card then not touch my bitcoin... anyway!!

Will wait tomorow to see whatsup....

I sincerely hope they resolve.
Several users of E-Coin seem to continue having a very troublesome experience with their services...














 

 

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November 28, 2016, 01:10:44 AM
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Hello, all.

Please advise, could the debit cards be considered as the bank account in foreign banks?
No, you don't get access to a full bank account in your name plus you only access the card's services through the interface of the service you chose. If you're talking about bank grade security though, I admitedly don't know. It surely has to be more insured than letting your bitcoins sit in the wallet of a service that you have no direct control on.

When getting a card from the OP list with an IBAN attached to it, can you withdraw PayPal to it?

Are you referring to a specific card?














 

 

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November 28, 2016, 04:07:15 AM
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I've been monitoring the Wirex/E-coin thread for the past weeks and some really suspicious activity has been reported by users. Many users are being unable to see funds loaded in their account, and others are unable to withdraw. Most calls for support go unanswered until users go public with their complaints. Seeing as to how other bitcoin services have silently pulled a MtGox on users with big balances we have to be extra cautious.

I'm putting Wirex/E-coin in the quarantine list and would advise everyone to stay away from their services. Here's a list of quotes from Wirex/E-coin users reporting faults in their service recently:

They are having issues with their bank. Their bank said I had reached my lifetime limits too even tho I never spent more than a few hundred dollars with my real card. Nevertheless, I contacted their support, Alena took my case and after a few days of working with the bank she successfully could transfer my funds in BTC so I could move them. I think Wirex is stuck with issues with the bank and they are trying hard to fix them.  

Alena keeps transferring my support requests to other people.
Other people keep telling me LIES about card limits.
I keep saying I had a BRAND NEW EURO card that wouldn't even load 410 EURO.
I am at the point that I am telling her to stop allowing her workers to LIE to me, give me my money back.
I am now accusing them of scam excuses and stealing.  I keep asking for my money back, and they keep lying about card limits.
I explain that I do not want to load any more cards.  I just want my money back.

They won't give it back.
HELP!

Hello

I am a customer of e-coin.
e-coin has taken my money.  410 Euros, and 252.40 USD

I have deposited bitcoin then attempted to transfer to virtual cards, not exceeding the monthly or daily limits.
The Euro card was new with no limits used for the day or month.  I tried to load the cards and received an "unknown error...."
The money was taken and not returned to my account or put on my virtual cards.

I contacted support, and was told I have reached a "lifetime limit".
I am guessing my account itself as an overall limit?  This is a NEW LIMIT e-coin created???
Because a brand new, unused EURO card was not letting me load.  I reached no daily or monthly limits.

The error message did not say I reached a limit.
It said unknown error.

I have an emergency, I must pay bills.
They said I reached a limit and did NOT return my bitcoins!   They are telling me I have to do all this verification now.  Stalling me.  I don't have time for this.  Virtual cards did not require verification in the past year.  I need to pay overdue bills NOW.  I need my money back so that I can have them back and find another service that works.

Can you please help?
Customer support is telling me I have a lifetime limit and NOT returning my money!
We are experiencing some difficulties with the USD card loading service. The service will be resumed on Monday 14 Nov 10am GMT at latest.
card loading down once again!!!?
edit: works, if you get 'service unavailable' just keep trying to load, worked eventually for me
request #23192
hi, i load debit virtual card -1006 usd, on paypal and i wait 5-6days but money i not see on my account wirex, what problem? usually take 3 days. and how register virtual debit card my choice, cardhoderonline? what taken???

so sonebody had the problem load on paypal???
Cant load card , keep getting 'Service unavailable - try again later'
edit:  cant even transfer the btcs out of ecoin!!

I'm having some issues with the service as well and gosha (OP) didn't connect since 24th october so It doesn't look too nice here...
card loading down once again!!!?
edit: works, if you get 'service unavailable' just keep trying to load, worked eventually for me

We apologize for the inconvenience. Right now the service is working normally. Please clean your browser's cache or reinstall your Wirex Mobile app and try to make your transactions. Let us know if the issue still persists.


Really working normally? Your dev team can't solve my problem more then 3 WEEKS!!! Ticket ID: 21992

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My first post was:
 Re: Bitcoin debit card
November 01, 2016, 09:37:31 PM

I don't get my bitcoins today. I got this error:

Buy Failed - Ref 63adcb8456014345b3db36380fba4b77

# 1353719 EUR->BTC   Pending   BTC+0.149023

Please complete my order, thank you
Hey, I am not able to deposit bitcoin. I tried it on both ecoin website and wirex app in both the cases I am not able to see my deposit address I also sent a support ticket about 24hrs ago I haven't got any reply yet.
Take care when using wirex... transfer to credit card was failed and they are holding my bitcoin (500$) since 3 days without any reply to multiple support request.



E-Coin has been keeping 500$ of mine hostage. I can't fucking believe this...

I loaded my account with my hard earned money to go on a shopping spree for Christmas... Their support doesn't respond and the money doesn't even appear in my account in spite of the transaction having been confirmed for more than 4 days. Thanks for ruining Christmas so early E-Coin. This is perfectly valid evidence to suspect that E-Coin is planning on turning into a scam, if you can pull out money from them, stop using their services now!

I guess they starting scaming.... im not alone to have $  gone aparently... lets see what happen over next few days........
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November 28, 2016, 05:30:32 AM
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While I know that E-coin is having some issues at the moment and some people are enjoying throwing accusations at the moment , you probably should read the latest posts from this (OP from E-coin threads) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409314;sa=showPosts He pretty much explains the issues.

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November 28, 2016, 05:51:30 AM
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While I know that E-coin is having some issues at the moment and some people are enjoying throwing accusations at the moment , you probably should read the latest posts from this (OP from E-coin threads) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409314;sa=showPosts He pretty much explains the issues.
I don't see an explanation but rather responses trying to reassure customers. I really do hope issues will get sorted out for users because it seems like there are several cases of people having problems with E-Coin's service as of lately, which is worrying.














 

 

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November 28, 2016, 10:36:01 AM
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Hello, all.

Please advise, could the debit cards be considered as the bank account in foreign banks?
No, you don't get access to a full bank account in your name plus you only access the card's services through the interface of the service you chose. If you're talking about bank grade security though, I admitedly don't know. It surely has to be more insured than letting your bitcoins sit in the wallet of a service that you have no direct control on.

When getting a card from the OP list with an IBAN attached to it, can you withdraw PayPal to it?

Are you referring to a specific card?
Not at all, just any service that offers card with iban. I think viabuy does this. Do you think it is possible to withdraw paypal money to it?
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November 28, 2016, 12:00:28 PM
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Hello, all.

Please advise, could the debit cards be considered as the bank account in foreign banks?
No, you don't get access to a full bank account in your name plus you only access the card's services through the interface of the service you chose. If you're talking about bank grade security though, I admitedly don't know. It surely has to be more insured than letting your bitcoins sit in the wallet of a service that you have no direct control on.

When getting a card from the OP list with an IBAN attached to it, can you withdraw PayPal to it?

Are you referring to a specific card?
Not at all, just any service that offers card with iban. I think viabuy does this. Do you think it is possible to withdraw paypal money to it?
I've only been monitoring bitcoin debit card services so I don't know.much about this. I've seen some people here offering bank accounts but those are essentially "proxied" bang services and hence largely trust based. I'm not aware of any bitcoin related service officialy offering what you ask for to be honest.














 

 

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November 29, 2016, 03:49:48 PM
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Update on my wirex 500$ missing.

Today they have refund the money,

I'd like to say that I do NOT think wirex is scam, and i doubt htey will be turning into one, if they do, it would be very surprising, as for mtgox they got hacked, same thing can happen to anyone! but i dont think they have it planned.

As for the quality of their custumer service,

When you post shit on the forum, then you talk with the e-coin / wirex guy on the forum, you can your problem resolved in a matter of 1 day.

However........ if you happen to not be on the forum, well, i have bad news for you.... good luck getting your problem solved!

I'd say i give their cusutmer support from this forum a 5/5 but without complaining on this forum it is 0/5 custumer service!!!

Anyway, to all bitcointalk users as long as the staff from wirex/e-coin continue to be active on the forum, i think it is safe to assume that we will get our problem solved pretty quick with their help.
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November 30, 2016, 10:58:18 AM
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Update on my wirex 500$ missing.

Today they have refund the money,

I'd like to say that I do NOT think wirex is scam, and i doubt htey will be turning into one, if they do, it would be very surprising, as for mtgox they got hacked, same thing can happen to anyone! but i dont think they have it planned.

As for the quality of their custumer service,

When you post shit on the forum, then you talk with the e-coin / wirex guy on the forum, you can your problem resolved in a matter of 1 day.

However........ if you happen to not be on the forum, well, i have bad news for you.... good luck getting your problem solved!

I'd say i give their cusutmer support from this forum a 5/5 but without complaining on this forum it is 0/5 custumer service!!!

Anyway, to all bitcointalk users as long as the staff from wirex/e-coin continue to be active on the forum, i think it is safe to assume that we will get our problem solved pretty quick with their help.
Thanks for posting here with your experience, I really appreciate it. Customer service is important when dealing with money, but IMO if infrastructure of the service was better Wirex/E-coin wouldn't have been facing a support request backlog ash Gosha is saying. I'm still unsure about Wirex/E-coin but I really hope that there won't be any long-term issues for their users.














 

 

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December 02, 2016, 07:38:03 AM
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Has anybody had any luck using CEX.IO's card topup service? I remember that cex's support was good from back in the day there were GH/s trades there but I haven't heard much about their new set of services.














 

 

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December 03, 2016, 05:45:21 AM
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In case you was planning to remove Wirex then you probably shouldn't for the moment. A few hours ago , they announced that all the issues they had has been fixed : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.msg17064285#msg17064285 and also for this weekend only , everyone can get the cards for 50% off !

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December 03, 2016, 11:03:06 AM
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In case you was planning to remove Wirex then you probably shouldn't for the moment. A few hours ago , they announced that all the issues they had has been fixed : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917350.msg17064285#msg17064285 and also for this weekend only , everyone can get the cards for 50% off !

I wasn't planning on removing Wirex from the list, but the fact that the issues went unannounced seem to have caused inconveniences to many people. What I'll do is to update my reply to this thread in which I warned about issues with Wirex reported by users.














 

 

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December 05, 2016, 12:22:38 PM
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Guys what is the your total cost from depositing bitcoins to cashing them out? What % do you lose by the time you have the cash in your hand? I plan to use a EUR card in Eurozone countries.

From my research only Coinsbank currently offers an exchange with a total cost of 0.5%, the rest quote an unfavorable exchange rate that is way above 0.5%.

Is this accurate? What is the cheapest option from all these cards?
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December 05, 2016, 09:07:16 PM
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Guys what is the your total cost from depositing bitcoins to cashing them out? What % do you lose by the time you have the cash in your hand? I plan to use a EUR card in Eurozone countries.

From my research only Coinsbank currently offers an exchange with a total cost of 0.5%, the rest quote an unfavorable exchange rate that is way above 0.5%.

Is this accurate? What is the cheapest option from all these cards?
Uquid has BitPay rates + 0.5% card loading fee, this is something hard to beat.
Also, ANXPRO seems to have interesting fee structures but I have no idea how much their cards cost and IIRC you can't even see order costs unless you verify your account. Do look into it if you're looking for a high profile bitcoin debit card and let me know.














 

 

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Guys what is the your total cost from depositing bitcoins to cashing them out? What % do you lose by the time you have the cash in your hand? I plan to use a EUR card in Eurozone countries.

From my research only Coinsbank currently offers an exchange with a total cost of 0.5%, the rest quote an unfavorable exchange rate that is way above 0.5%.

Is this accurate? What is the cheapest option from all these cards?
Uquid has BitPay rates + 0.5% card loading fee, this is something hard to beat.

I think Coinsbank is 0.5% trading fee so total is around the same? But you're getting market rates on the exchange which may be better/worse then the actual market rates with Bitpay. Coinsbank also offers variable cashback, currently around 0.753% but I think you can only use that to pay the fees.

It's hard to figure out just how much it costs to load the card for both Coinsbank and Uquid cos they don't put that info on their website. See https://uquid.com/fees for example, no mention of the 0.5% load fee.

Any Coinsbank users here to share their experience regrading costs?
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December 06, 2016, 04:48:31 AM
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Actually, Uquid has a 0.5% fee when moving money from account balance to cards. You'd be able to see that with a free account.  Bitpay rates have in my experience always been slightly better than thw ones Coinsbank had.














 

 

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Going over to the Wirex/e-coin thread I still see several complaints about issues with the service and slow support ticket responses. Doesn't look like the afformentioned issue is gone as they announced formally...














 

 

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