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November 23, 2015, 09:19:27 PM |
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Falun Gong Loses Court Case over Permanent Protest Structure at Chinese Consulate
A British Columbia Supreme Court judge has sided with the City of Vancouver in its dispute with Falun Gong protesters, ruling that amended city bylaws prohibiting permanent structures are constitutional and place a “reasonable” limit on the group’s right to freedom of expression. The bylaw requires groups who want to erect structures for political protests on city streets to first obtain a permit. “The amended bylaws provide guidelines for obtaining a permit to use a structure that conveys political expression,” Justice Bowden wrote in the ruling, released Thursday.
At issue is a protest vigil first erected in 2001 near the Chinese Consulate-General in the 3300-block Granville Street. It included a large sign on the sidewalk supported by scaffolding and a meditation hut on the boulevard. The protest was maintained 24-7 until the City of Vancouver requested and received a court injunction to remove the structures. The protesters challenged that decision and the Court of Appeal agreed the city’s bylaws were unconstitutional, but suspended the effect of its decision for 6 months to allow for a revision in the bylaws. In the end result, the deciding judge stated that “I find the amended bylaws to be constitutional and the petition is dismissed.”
Grace Pastine, litigation director for the BC Civil Liberties Association, which was an intervener in the case, said the bylaw does pose an unreasonable limit on freedom of expression, and that the organization is disappointed by the ruling. She said, “…if the city can safely allow sidewalk cafés and sandwich boards on our public streets, surely, it seems, we can make room for the type of political expression that lies at the very heart of a democratic society.” (The Province, 12/4/14) [IT 6.2, 2015]
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November 23, 2015, 10:31:46 PM |
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All saviors are phony!
Holy Barak Abama, the son of interracial marriage! Are You telling here as "Non Falungong", that "Master Li" have supernatural powers and he is a "savior"? |
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November 23, 2015, 11:21:28 PM |
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but the info is update than what you show in year 2004.. ten years ago I have the sospect, that You need or glasses or to clean Your monitor.  Li Dayong participates Falun Gong activity on the 20th, Oct, 2013 |
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November 23, 2015, 11:57:50 PM |
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but the info is update than what you show in year 2004.. ten years ago I have the sospect, that You need or glasses or to clean Your monitor. Li Dayong participates Falun Gong activity on the 20th, Oct, 2013 If you two don't mind, let me summarize what I think is interesting about this. China says Falong is an evil cult and kills people, and Falong says China is evil and kills people. Western world can't possibly understand Falong, you must be Chinese or know Chinese thinking and philosophy to understand it. So Western world falls for the cries of "We a poor helpless VICTIM" from Falong. I say Falong is an evil cult, too. Now one would think this matter could be settled on the basis of FACTS. Is that possible? |
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November 24, 2015, 12:18:15 AM |
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Supes support 'homophobic cult'
Bay Area Reporter/February 2, 2006
By Matthew S. Bajko
Amid accusations it is giving a San Francisco seal of approval to what some contend is a "homophobic cult," the Board of Supervisors passed a resolution this week in support of ending persecution of Falun Gong, a spiritual movement banned since 1999 in China, where members of the group are routinely imprisoned.
Both the city's gay supervisors, Bevan Dufty and Tom Ammiano, joined in the 9-2 vote to pass the resolution, despite calls for them not to give any support to Falun Gong, whose founder has called gays "demonic" and has said that "the priority of the gods will be to eliminate homosexual people."
The resolution makes no mention of China or Chinese officials, nor does it specifically address the group's beliefs regarding gay people. It does state that the city does not officially sanction "the views expressed by Falun Gong practitioners" and that the police and Human Rights Commission in San Francisco "should protect the rights and safety of Falun Gong practitioners."
Huy Lu, a Daly City resident and spokesman for the local Falun Gong group, said LGBT people are welcome in the movement. He contended that the accusations of antigay teachings are meant to confuse people.
"We don't have anything against gays, blacks, or any other group," he said. "I practice in the Civic Center and a lot of people go in and out of the Civic Center, some of whom are gay. They are welcome to have us teach them our practice."
The resolution is a watered down version of one introduced by Supervisor Chris Daly that specifically called on Chinese authorities to end their persecution of the movement's followers. Daly, who brought up a similar measure in 2001, did not return calls seeking comment. Passage of the "innocuous" version - as Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi called it - met with criticism from the gay community.
"What a disappointing vote. I have compassion for the practitioners but I think the supervisors have been duped by the master's party line," said a visibly upset Thomas Brown after the vote.
Brown, a gay man whose roommate's parents are Falun Gong members, petitioned Dufty to either not vote for the resolution or add specific language to it condemning the movement's stance toward homosexuals.
"I challenge any gay person in this city to get any Falun Gong practitioner to state they do not agree with their master's belief. I have never heard them refute what he has said. There is deception here," said Brown. "I think it is a vote that will come back to haunt some of the supervisors."
Brown's roommate, Samuel Luo, called the supervisor's vote "a huge disappointment" and warned that the group will use the resolution "to recruit members. It makes it hard for people like me to get family members out of the cult."
Robert Bernardo, president of the Gay Asian Pacific Alliance, called the vote "shocking" and said it will have reverberations in the gay Asian community.
"There will be gay Asians out there who will be upset, definitely," said Bernardo, though he said he could see why the supervisors waded into the issue.
"I don't know if it was an endorsement of Falun Gong. It is more about freedom of speech and freedom of expression, which I am all for. That doesn't mean this group is not homophobic nor a quasi-religious cult, which they are," said Bernardo.
Thom Lynch, executive director of the LGBT Community Center, expressed concern about the city adopting the resolution and questioned why the board took up the issue in the first place.
"I certainly think the city should not do anything that supports their views on LGBT issues. I don't think anything in this did do that. If it is just stating people should not be persecuted in China for their beliefs, it is hard to find fault with that," said Lynch.
Though he wondered "how do we get into Chinese cults when we have some many cults here we are not addressing. It is an awfully complicated issue to take on on a local basis. One good thing that came out of it is people are having a debate about it. It just should not be decided at the Board of Supervisors."
Several of the supervisors who voted for the measure went to great pains to explain why they felt it was right for San Francisco to pass it. Supervisor Fiona Ma, the lone Asian American on the board who sought to strike the initial resolution's references to China, painted her vote as one upholding American ideals embodied in the U.S. Constitution.
"I took an oath to defend the constitution of the U.S. and the constitution of the state of California and I am fulfilling it with this vote today," said Ma. "America is built on the fundamental values of inclusion and freedom. And sometimes at the local level, we have to defend these values and rights."
Ma, who faced intense pressure from the city's Chinese community not to vote for the resolution, also came under attack because of Falun Gong's antigay teachings. She stressed before voting to approve it Tuesday that, "I do not support the Falun Gong or their teachings. I do not believe government should endorse or promote any particular belief system. This vote is simply about the values of this city, this state, and this country to protect the freedoms we cherish that are increasingly under attack."
In an interview with the Bay Area Reporter after the vote, Ma said she could not say with certainty if the Falun Gong was homophobic or not.
"I am not completely sure of all the teachings of this movement," she said.
Instead of examining the movement's specific teachings, Ma framed the issue as one about "human rights, individual rights, and ending persecution based on one's beliefs" and said the resolution simply "protects people's right to live in San Francisco and not be harassed for their beliefs."
Prior to the board meeting, Dufty had indicated to the B.A.R. in a phone interview Tuesday morning that he would not vote for the resolution.
"At this point I am really uncomfortable putting the board on record in any way that can be construed as supporting Falun Gong," Dufty said. "I don't feel like it is my role to weigh in on this and I don't feel like I can sort out all of the issues. I am not condemning the Catholic Church and its leadership certainly is very homophobic."
Later in the day, Dufty said he changed his mind after speaking with Ammiano because they both felt that no matter what the group believes, it does not deserve to be persecuted for it.
"In talking with him I became comfortable with the strict interpretation of this resolution," said Dufty, who looked conflicted about his decision in a brief conversation after the vote.
Ammiano, speaking before he cast his aye vote, said though he was "still concerned" about the issues raised regarding Falun Gong's beliefs, he nonetheless saw the resolution "as being very clear it is only about ending persecution."
Chinese parade flap
Falun Gong's views on homosexuality became an issue when the Chinese Chamber of Commerce placed an advertisement in Monday's San Francisco Chronicle that questioned why Ma "is asking the Chinese Community to Support a Homophobic Cult?" The ad described the antigay writings of Falun Gong founder Li Hongzhi, who teaches, "the disgusting homosexuality shows the dirty abnormal psychology of the gay who has lost his ability of reasoning at the present time."
Ma said she was "personally insulted" by the ad and defended her record on supporting both gay rights and the gay community.
"I have been very supportive and active on LGBT issues both with my votes at the board and my participation at community events. It is a baseless attack," said Ma, who is running for the Assembly seat now held by Leland Yee.
Ma said she did see a positive aspect to the ad.
"I am concerned about these homophobic teachings. It is a good thing these were called out. I don't think people understand the Falun Gong. So to the extent it is educating the community, it is a good thing," said Ma.
Dufty, a friend of Ma's, added, "I am upset on the attacks on Fiona. They are based on electoral politics."
The chamber's attack ad came one week after a heated supervisors' committee hearing Monday, January 23 when Ma and Dufty voted to send the revised resolution to the full board. Supervisor Jake McGoldrick voted against doing so, and he and Board President Aaron Peskin both voted against the resolution this week.
At the committee hearing, Falun Gong members criticized the Chinese chamber for not allowing them to march in its annual Chinese New Year's Parade and questioned why the city gives $77,000 to a parade that discriminates against certain groups.
Wayne Hu, the chamber's president, said his organization placed the ad in order to defend itself and drum up community support.
"People need to be aware of what their leader or founder has written. It is not just the homosexual community, but all the other things he said in the book about who gets to go to what level. It is very anti-Semitic also," said Hu. "I am hoping for support from the entire city, whether the gay community or the entire city."
Lu, the Falun Gong spokesman, said he was shocked to see the chamber's ad. He called it more than just a political tactic to pressure Ma into not supporting Falun Gong.
"They want to incite hatred among the San Francisco population because they know San Francisco is very liberal. They use that against Falun Gong participants," he said. "If you can see us we are just a very, very peaceful group."
Falun Gong has filed a complaint with the HRC over not being allowed in the parade. The group has also threatened to file an injunction against the city for its support of the Chinese parade, but as of press time no such action had been filed. The HRC is investigating the case and attempting to get both sides to mediate.
"We responded and said we have not violated the human rights ordinance," said Hu.
Hu said his group denied Falun Gong's application to join the parade because when they were in the parade in 2004 they handed out fliers the parade deemed to be political and in violation of the parade's restrictions on groups making political statements. Last year Falun Gong tried to crash the parade, and in the end, marched along the route behind the official end of the parade.
The parade committee has support among gay leaders for its efforts not to allow Falun Gong to march.
"I think it is great that the leadership in the Chinese community recognizes the homophobia of this group and I would support their efforts not to let them march," said Lynch.
Bernardo said GAPA also supports the parade committee's stance.
"While GAPA supports the right for all groups, no matter how ridiculous their teachings, to have freedom of speech and expression, ultimately it is up to the Chinatown chamber to make the decision of who marches in their parade," said Bernardo, whose group sponsored a progay marriage float in last year's parade and will have a gay "family tree" themed float this year. "We shouldn't rain on their parade. They have a right to create the parameters of their parade."
Asked how allowing the gay Asian group to march is not a political statement, both Hu and Bernardo said they see a distinction between GAPA's floats and how Falun Gong behaved during the parade.
Hu said, "I think it is political but they were not trying to make a political statement. Falun Gong is. They are lobbying politicians and community leaders to support their cause."
"We are celebrating families. We are not campaigning for candidates. We are not supporting ballot measures or propositions," said Bernardo. "We believe the parade is not about extremism or anything like that. It is really a family celebration so our focus this year is family. It sounds like [antigay group] Focus on the Family but we are focusing on the family this year. We will have gay-friendly and gay clergy marching with us and lots of kids. They will be children of gay and lesbian Asian parents."
The parade begins at 5:30 p.m. Saturday, February 11 and winds its way from Chinatown to Union Square.
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November 24, 2015, 12:20:50 AM |
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"Falun Gong: homophobic mind control cult"
San Francisco Sentinal - Letter to the Editor/January 27, 2006
By Samuel Luo
My name is Samuel Luo and my parents are both Falun Gong practitioners who have been hurt and exploited by this cult. Among the many harms done to them, I have been seriously concerned that they have refused needed medical treatment. In 2002, my step-father initially refused help when he had a stroke and he has suffered painful gout attacks unnecessarily for five years. He did so because he was being brainwashed into believing that Li Hongzhi, the founder and leader of this cult has the power to cure illnesses and taking medicine is counter productive.
The Falun Gong is also extremely homophobic. Li teaches that homosexuality is not the standard of being human, the priority of Gods will be to eliminate homosexuals and that gays are demonic in nature. These teachings are honored by all Falun Gong practitioners. Recently when I confronted my mother with these teachings she said that the elimination of gays is already happening. When I wanted her to give specific examples she said that all the natural disasters that happened recently are directed at corrupt people, gays included.
In my efforts to warn the public about the harmful and cultish nature of Falun Gong, my free speech was suppressed. Last year when the International Cultic Studies Association organized a program on the Falun Gong in which I was one of the presenters, the Falun Gong threatened the organization with a lawsuit and successfully suppressed our freedom of speech.
The Falun Gong is preying on the residents of this city I just want people to know that the Falun Gong is not what they claim to be.
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November 24, 2015, 09:24:02 AM |
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Li Hongzhi is a Tax-Evader
People's Daily, July 30, 1999
Li Hongzhi, founder of the illegal Falun Gong, earned more than 280,000 yuan from May,1992 to November, 1994 in Changchu, capital of Jilin Province, through giving lectures to his followers.
However, this man paid no income tax until tax authority ordered him to pay the tax he had evaded. This is another evidence proving his accumulation of ill-gotten wealth.
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November 24, 2015, 09:29:28 AM |
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Singapore punishes 6-person protest
Post News, Bankkok/February 15, 2007
Singapore -- Six followers of the Falun Gong spiritual movement have been fined the maximum 1,000 Singapore dollars (about 21,700 baht, $645) for taking part in an illegal assembly protesting treatment of fellow practitioners in China, news reports said on Thursday.
During the 16-day trial, the prosecution showed District Judge Terence Chua a video tape taken by an officer, The Straits Times said.
It showed the women distributing and displaying placards and banners in a busy shopping area accusing the Chinese government of atrocities against Falun Gong members.
While the group is legal in Singapore, it is banned in China.
The women - Pang Su Chin, 56, You Xin, 38, Wang Yuyi, 51, Ang Soh Yan, 48, Ng Chye Huay, 42, and Cheng Lujin, 39 - were not represented by lawyers. They paid the fines.
Demonstrations and other gatherings are prohibited in the city- state without a police permit.
The women said that the video tape had been tampered with, but prosecution witnesses denied any editing.
The six insisted that they had done nothing wrong.
Ng has three previous convictions, two of which were on similar charges, while Cheng has one, the report said.
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November 24, 2015, 09:31:55 AM |
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China's organ supply questioned as transplants soar
China Daily/April 13, 2006
By Le Tian
Hospital officials in Northeast China have lashed out at rumours made by the banned Falun Gong that it had detained followers of the cult, harvested their organs and incinerated their bodies, saying "the accusations are sheer lies."
Officials of the Liaoning Thrombosis Treatment Centre of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine in Shenyang, in Liaoning Province, said yesterday their hospital lacks the required facilities to conduct organ transplants and has no basement to house the Falun Gong practitioners.
"These accusations are fabricated," said Zhang Yuqin, the hospital's deputy director, in a meeting with reporters organized by the State Council Information Office in Beijing.
Falun Gong followers overseas have spread the rumour through its media the Epoch Times and Minghui website since March 8, saying that more than 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners were imprisoned at the so-called concentration camp in Sujiatun District of the city, and many of them were cremated and their organs harvested.
Later, they changed their wording by saying the "concentration camp" was established in a small hospital, that is, the hospital Zhang works at.
Zhang said the hospital, with only 300 beds, does not have enough space for 6,000 people, nor does it have a "basement" or " incinerator."
"Their lies about a concentration camp are sheer fabrication, and the organ harvesting rumour is utter nonsense," she added.
Zhang has been working for the hospital since 1990. She said the hospital specialized in thrombus diseases, with treatments that combined Western medicine with the use of traditional Chinese herbs.
The hospital annually treats nearly 300,000 patients from China and abroad. A hospital in Seoul has established friendly ties and exchanged experts with the Sujiatun hospital since 1997, according to Zhang.
The Chinese Government banned the Falun Gong as a cult in July 1999 because of illegal acts undertaken by the cult.
The cult has spread false accusations in the public arena and used international IP calls and mobile phone messages to spread their doctrines.
A US consular official in Shenyang visited the hospital on March 22, claiming to be interested in traditional Chinese treatments for thrombosis, and was given a full tour of the facility, said Zhang Xu, another hospital official.
Media such as Japan's NHK, Hong Kong's Phoenix TV and Takung Pao newspaper have visited the hospital to look at the facilities, said the official.
"Seeing is believing. We welcome national and international media to our hospital," he said.
Zheng Bin, deputy head of Sujiatun District where the hospital is located, denounced the rumour as "groundless" at the news conference.
Zheng said the hospital had some Falun Gong followers as patients, but none were in detention.
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November 24, 2015, 09:44:49 AM |
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China: Reward for Banned Sect Leader
New York Times, August 4, 1999
News Briefs:
China put out a $6,000 reward for information leading to the capture of Li Hongzhi, the New York-based leader of the banned spiritual movement Falun Gong, state-run media reported. Last week, China asked the international police agency Interpol to issue an arrest warrant against Mr. Li, but the agency, based in France, has refused, citing a lack of criminal evidence.
(AP) Compiled
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November 25, 2015, 08:47:20 AM |
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If you two don't mind, let me summarize what I think is interesting about this.
China says Falong is an evil cult and kills people, and Falong says China is evil and kills people.
Western world can't possibly understand Falong, you must be Chinese or know Chinese thinking and philosophy to understand it.
So Western world falls for the cries of "We a poor helpless VICTIM" from Falong.
I say Falong is an evil cult, too.
Now one would think this matter could be settled on the basis of FACTS.
Is that possible?
Falong is a word that you made up. Actually, anyone can understand Eastern religions and Falun Gong; some reading comprehension is required... If you want to say that it is an evil cult, tell us 1) what is a cult and 2) how a cult is different from a religion, if at all. Also: 3) what elements of this cult should be labeled evil? I am an American and I found these teachings easy to understand. In my opinion, it is not the most enlightening teaching but is lucid, useful, and mostly reasonable as far as it goes. The fact is that the CCP fails to be morally accountable by responding to inquiries about the organ donations as you can see on the wikipedia page, so the implicit conclusion is that vulnerable groups in Chinese society are being exploited in the diabolical organ harvesting scheme. The evidence points to Falun Gong as the main source for organs, and there is apparently a substantial number of victims; details have been posted in this thread (not by OP). I agree that we can make specific conclusions by listing facts about the situation. Perhaps we can start with the fact of the organ harvesting atrocities. |
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November 25, 2015, 09:43:54 AM |
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Falong is a You have writtern here "homosexuality is unnatural", so will You change Your idea"? Or this "spokesman" is a usual liatr as Master Li? |
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November 25, 2015, 09:51:18 AM
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November 25, 2015, 10:39:55 AM |
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Chief Executive's statement ************************** The Chief Executive, Mr Tung Chee Hwa, made the following statement today (April 25) : The annual Fortune Global Forum will be held in Hong Kong next month. The world's most prominent investors and businessmen will speak on the future development of the world economy at the Forum. The President and many ministers, governors and mayors of Mainland China will also attend the Forum to give support and to ensure the event is a success. The reason for us to organise such international conferences is to attract the world's top investors to invest in Hong Kong, to enhance our international image and promote economic development, and to create more employment opportunities for Hong Kong people. We have noticed that today Falun Gong members held public activities in connection with the rally at Zhongnanhai two years ago. They have also told the media that they are planning to hold a series of activities during the period of the Forum. Clearly such activities go beyond purely religious activities or physical exercise; they represent a deliberate move to undermine the relationship between Hong Kong and the Central Government; these activities interfere with the smooth conduct of the Forum, go against the interests of the HKSAR and its people, and are unacceptable to the community. I need to stress again that the HKSAR Government will observe closely the activities of the Falun Gong in Hong Kong, and will not allow them to abuse Hong Kong's freedoms and tolerance to affect public peace and order in the HKSAR, or public peace and order in the Mainland. End/Wednesday, April 25, 2001 http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200104/25/0425291.htm
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January 02, 2016, 01:07:45 AM |
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Ли Xyнчжи - pacиcт и гoмoфoб.
How to BURNING text of "Falun Gong" a mind control organisation give a lesson
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January 03, 2016, 07:17:05 PM |
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Nobody cares dude. You just posted 7 pages of articles no one will read on an issue no one in the English-speaking world cares about one way or the other. I suppose the PRC pays you by the post though
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January 03, 2016, 11:22:20 PM |
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Nobody cares dude.
Ohh, You goes post here without reading? |
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January 03, 2016, 11:27:24 PM |
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I suppose the PRC pays you by the post though
Are You searching such job? |
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I think this is propoganda from the chinese government because people uniting threatens there communist government, that is why it was declared illegal in 1999. I have a friend who is a falun gong practitioner and he would always tell me the crazy things that would happen while he was meditating, like seeing peoples auras and looking into tunnels of light. I always thought is was bs but was interested in what he told me. One day i went over to his house and he was meditating, he asked me if i wanted to join. I never meditated before so I was like ok this might be interesting. He puts on a video of Li Honghzi and he is speaking super fast in Chinese but there are subtitles. He was talking about the history of humans and how there used to be advanced civilizations that now lie at the bottom of the oceans. I became mesmerized by how fast he could speak but make perfect sense. So I'm watching the screen and all of a sudden I notice a gold aura surrounding Li Honghzi, at first i think it's some kind of computer effect so i look away then look back and at first the gold aura is gone, then as i stare it slowly comes back. I did this several times. Once i was convinced it was not some computer effect, and i was really seeing this, i became very interested. I assumed the lotus position the best i could, it's hard to do, and my friend told me to connect my hands on my heart chakra. So i did, and as soon as my hands connected i felt some kind of powerful energy coming from above. Then there was a tunnel of light coming out of the screen, it was spinning with all these symbols, and it slowly reached out to me where I was sitting. Then Li Honghzi was in my head and he was speaking perfect english. It's like my whole life flashed before my eyes and he was telling me all the things i need to improve in my life, it was intense. I looked over at my buddy and he was glowing gold too. I couldn't believe what i was seeing. This event changed my life, I seen the divine and theres no doubt in my mind that god doesnt exist. I am a christian so this was somthing of a confirmation for that. I havent meditated or pursued this practice since, simply because i am a westerner and I wasnt all about buddism. But I know it's real and it's not bs like i used to think. My friend was pretty upset about the organ harvesting, he said over 100,000 practitioners where harvested while still alive for there organs, due to there incredible health they were good recipients. It's fucked up. I never heard about people killing themselves, and my friend that practices isn't like that at all, he's a really happy person and has extremely good morals. So if thats true that fked, I choose not to believe that though and the Chinese government is corrupt so it would make sense why they would put out this anit fulon gong propaganda.
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