Innosilicon's A4 Dominator, 1.2W/Mhs 14nm ASIC and miner, open for Partners

[usao]

There is a new miner coming.. 
Innosilicon A4+
Hash rate 520 Mh/s, power consumption ~700W.

This seems good, I would like to know more info.

See this video:
"【INNOSILICON A4+】The Most Powerful Miner in the World"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9z-haTm7nY

Good find.  I am reaching out to them now to see what we can find out about access to the pre-orders for those who participated in the A4 pre-orders.  I will post what I find out.

Hook me up with this if you get any info, very interested as I was also an early A4 adopter.
Kinda disappointed with the original A4's numbers as they keep degrading over time, hope they get it right this time.
It's pretty comparable with the L3+, but the ordering process over at Bitmain is really bad. Just luck is all that matters over there, small batches which flood their web server. Wish they would adopt a queue mechanism.

[usao]

BTW, I don't think their website is up to date. Looking at the A4 page:

Innosilicon A4 Dominator
35.29 LTC　( or 1500 USD; 0.5692 BTC )
Please pay 70% to pre-order for October to November batch.

That places the value of BTC at $2635...

[kurbeks]

There is a new miner coming..  
Innosilicon A4+
Hash rate 520 Mh/s, power consumption ~700W.

This seems good, I would like to know more info.

See this video:
"【INNOSILICON A4+】The Most Powerful Miner in the World"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9z-haTm7nY

Good find.  I am reaching out to them now to see what we can find out about access to the pre-orders for those who participated in the A4 pre-orders.  I will post what I find out.

Hook me up with this if you get any info, very interested as I was also an early A4 adopter.
Kinda disappointed with the original A4's numbers as they keep degrading over time, hope they get it right this time.
It's pretty comparable with the L3+, but the ordering process over at Bitmain is really bad. Just luck is all that matters over there, small batches which flood their web server. Wish they would adopt a queue mechanism.

Inno on other hand heavily overcharges all orders below 5 miners and even if they accept cryptos then usually at very bad rates

[QuintLeo]

BTW, I don't think their website is up to date. Looking at the A4 page:

Innosilicon A4 Dominator
35.29 LTC　( or 1500 USD; 0.5692 BTC )
Please pay 70% to pre-order for October to November batch.

That places the value of BTC at $2635...

 Yeah, I'm currently in discussion with that issue with them about a pre-order I placed earlier this week.

 Their initial suggestion was "wire transfer" but I don't have ACCESS to wire transfers (one down side of credit unions, sometimes they don't offer some of the "fancy services" the big banks do - but on the other hand they also don't usually have the "fancy fees" either).


 Their published specs for the CHIPS in the A4 suggested they could put together a higher-performance miner - at a significantly higher cost due to the need to use a lot more chips to be able to run them at a lower voltage.

 I also suspect the Futurebit Moonlander v2 is using the chip out of the A4, but that's not been confirmed or denied yet....

[wheelz1200]

There is a new miner coming..  
Innosilicon A4+
Hash rate 520 Mh/s, power consumption ~700W.

This seems good, I would like to know more info.

See this video:
"【INNOSILICON A4+】The Most Powerful Miner in the World"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9z-haTm7nY

Good find.  I am reaching out to them now to see what we can find out about access to the pre-orders for those who participated in the A4 pre-orders.  I will post what I find out.

Hook me up with this if you get any info, very interested as I was also an early A4 adopter.
Kinda disappointed with the original A4's numbers as they keep degrading over time, hope they get it right this time.
It's pretty comparable with the L3+, but the ordering process over at Bitmain is really bad. Just luck is all that matters over there, small batches which flood their web server. Wish they would adopt a queue mechanism.

Inno on other hand heavily overcharges all orders below 5 miners and even if they accept cryptos then usually at very bad rates

Im sure if people were interested a solid group buy could be arranged.  I believe inno worked with guys here for the initial a4 group buy

[Marvell1]

I dotn see where it says that an A4 preorder will magically be upgraded to an A4+

Innosilicon needs to state that on this thread

[HagssFIN]

I dotn see where it says that an A4 preorder will magically be upgraded to an A4+

Innosilicon needs to state that on this thread

You need to listen through that video that was linked in this thread earlier.

[Marvell1]

I dotn see where it says that an A4 preorder will magically be upgraded to an A4+

Innosilicon needs to state that on this thread

You need to listen through that video that was linked in this thread earlier.

I see all that but they still have to confirm on thier thread

and honestly with the jacked up prices for BTC and LTC they use , its no surprise that no one is buying

[QuintLeo]

Not so much "jacked up" but "month or more outdated" and they apparently aren't going to change them "at this time" per my email exchanges with them about my current pre-order.

Guess it's back to playing "L3+ website lottery" if they don't get the exchange rates FIXED before they actually start selling the A4+.

[HagssFIN]

They do fix the BTC ratio when you make the order for real.
It's not a realtime Bitstamp price, but much better still.

I know because they did it when I ordered one A5 preorder after a long thought.
Let's see how that turns out.  
Delivery in November.

[Marvell1]

They do fix the BTC ratio when you make the order for real.
It's not a realtime Bitstamp price, but much better still.

I know because they did it when I ordered one A5 preorder after a long thought.
Let's see how that turns out.  
Delivery in November.

so how many did you order and what was the BTC price you have a recipt ?

[QuintLeo]

They do fix the BTC ratio when you make the order for real.

 Be nice if they would actually DO that on my A4 order - so far it hasn't happened.

 On the other hand, I'm quite willing to wait to get A4+ units instead.

[HagssFIN]

They do fix the BTC ratio when you make the order for real.
It's not a realtime Bitstamp price, but much better still.

I know because they did it when I ordered one A5 preorder after a long thought.
Let's see how that turns out.  
Delivery in November.

so how many did you order and what was the BTC price you have a recipt ?

I ordered one unit and the btc price was valued approx. 4200 USD .

[Marvell1]

They do fix the BTC ratio when you make the order for real.
It's not a realtime Bitstamp price, but much better still.

I know because they did it when I ordered one A5 preorder after a long thought.
Let's see how that turns out.  
Delivery in November.

so how many did you order and what was the BTC price you have a recipt ?

I ordered one unit and the btc price was valued approx. 4200 USD .

what im asking sorry is what did you actually PAY in btc , i.e they are pricing it at 1500 so did you pay .25 BTC or the outrageous .28 they want right now for a preorder

witch brings the price to 1950 or so vs the 1500 if you paid in full via wire

[usao]

Confused about pricing
A4+ is priced at $4500 ($1500 each), however when I tried to place an order, it came back at $5809 ($1963 each)

[Longsnowsm]

Confused about pricing
A4+ is priced at $4500 ($1500 each), however when I tried to place an order, it came back at $5809 ($1963 each)

The price on the Inno site is for the A4 NOT the A4+.  Priced in USD it is 1500 each+shipping and MOQ is 3.
The initial payment for the preorder is 70% down with the remainder due when they are ready to ship the miners.

If you price it in LTC or BTC it is WAAAAAAY OFF.  Your not going to get an A4 for $1500 USD if you try to pay in crypto.

So your best bet is to wire transfer USD if you want the best price.  Inno has been told their conversion rate is way off.  If they don't correct it then it is intentional.  At this point I don't know if they are going to make it closer to the real exchange rate or not.  So I would assume your best bet is a USD wire transfer.

And remember your going to pay by the hash rate so when they offer the A4+ the price is per megahash.  So if it is 520mh x $5.36 per megahash = $2787.20

So your balance due PER UNIT would be $1737.20 or for the MOQ of 3 units you would owe an additional $8371.60 PLUS shipping, customs, VAT etc.

[usao]

Confused about pricing
A4+ is priced at $4500 ($1500 each), however when I tried to place an order, it came back at $5809 ($1963 each)

The price on the Inno site is for the A4 NOT the A4+.  Priced in USD it is 1500 each+shipping and MOQ is 3.
The initial payment for the preorder is 70% down with the remainder due when they are ready to ship the miners.

If you price it in LTC or BTC it is WAAAAAAY OFF.  Your not going to get an A4 for $1500 USD if you try to pay in crypto.

So your best bet is to wire transfer USD if you want the best price.  Inno has been told their conversion rate is way off.  If they don't correct it then it is intentional.  At this point I don't know if they are going to make it closer to the real exchange rate or not.  So I would assume your best bet is a USD wire transfer.

And remember your going to pay by the hash rate so when they offer the A4+ the price is per megahash.  So if it is 520mh x $5.36 per megahash = $2787.20

So your balance due PER UNIT would be $1737.20 or for the MOQ of 3 units you would owe an additional $8371.60 PLUS shipping, customs, VAT etc.

I tried again with wire transfer and they said : Price $1620/ea
The video said if ypu pre order a A4 ($1500 per web page) you eill get A4+.

[Khurram Bin Kamal]

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I tried again with wire transfer and they said : Price $1620/ea
The video said if ypu pre order a A4 ($1500 per web page) you eill get A4+.
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You will get A4+ at price per megahash that could be around 2600$ to 2800$ depending upon the hash rate and you have to pay the difference and I think that  A4+ will not be delivered before 3 months could take 4 to5 months
I will not  pre-order a miner whose specs are not clearly mentioned, price is not confirmed and on top of all that the delivery date is not specified.

[Longsnowsm]

You will not get the A4+ for $1500.  It is priced per MHS of an A4 at $1500.  If you want to upgrade your order you will get the opportunity to do that as Inno has stated they will let all pre-order holders know they have the option to upgrade to the A4+.  We have already been told that once this preorder round is over the price will be going up.

BUT to get the A4+ you have to pay by the MHS of the A4+ upgrade.  The price is $5.36 per megahash if my math is correct at 280mhs A4 / $1500 = $5.35xxxxxxx Rounded up to $5.36

If the A4+ is delivered at say 550mhs(high end of the estimates we have seen so far) then the cost PER UNIT could be as high as $2948 + shipping.

So be aware that the preorder price on the site is for the 70% deposit, the remainder due when they are ready to ship. 

You may want to get a confirmation in writing from Inno that they are going to give you the option to upgrade to the A4+ just so you have that to refer to later should there be some sort of mix up. 

[sh1za]

WTF with Silicons?  

I ordered the A4, for August-September delivery, now I am offered to pay extra for A+ and wait for December. its SCAM? How can this be? they risk the honest name of Charlie Lee, who praised them on his Twitter account.

I paid the money and waited two months to hear it?