How to escape mandatory keylogging

[rpietila]

I am disgusted of the scripted nature of Paris attacks. To a casual observer it is nearing 100% false flag, based on the usual tells:

- terrorist drill at the same time
- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)
- no footage available, or very conflicting vs. official story
- special forces used
- immediate press and public response ready incl only hours to light up all the world monuments in colors.
- immediate human rights curtailments put in place, and directed against people who were the victims, not the purported let alone actual perpetrators.
- measures taken (gun control, surveillance) increase the vulnerability of the people against such attacks in the future.


So this lead me to think that since keylogging is already a feature in most devices and will become mandatory in the future, how can we retain any usefulness of cryptosystems, because to me an important basic is that I hold the keys, and the false-flagging-terrorist-"government" does not hold them?

In 1980s I did not so much care that government had access to my bank account since they had a track record of being largely supporting of the rule of law, and no random or violent action towards own people. Now the tables have been turned - leading politicians in EU are not hesitant anymore to be publicly acknowledged as traitors and terrorists, and shooting own people in a theatre and taking off their rights as a result, with straight face, is sickening. That people accept it instead of returning sanity to the government by telling that their inability to protect the people should lead to more guns and liberties in the hands of people, rather than less, is symptomatic of a people pampered to their demise.

I honestly believed the US would be the first to fall, but perhaps the rougher and less civilized culture there is more dangerous to deal with, and takes more time to thoroughly corrupt and destroy.

But as to the main point - are there any technologies that allow you to store and move value online so that nothing you ever type on your keyboard can be used to decipher access codes that allow the transfer of more value in the future? How does that work?

Or should I forsake crypto and move on to evangelism, at least that IS useful in defeating evil 

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[onemorexmr]

tbh i dont see any way to keep private data safe from a gov which really wants them.
undetectable bios backdoors (http://blog.invisiblethings.org/papers/2015/x86_harmful.pdf) and sidechannel attacks (which allow the leak of data) are there and usable.

sorry... i'd love a world where it would be possible to trust our govs. but they are just too powerful.

what you may try:
 - buy pc's from different countries (eg china, russia, usa) and split your wealth and just hope that not all of them cooperate or go insane the same time.
 - pen and paper

the only way out is: just try to be unimportant ;-) they dont care about a few millions...

[Spoetnik]

i think your high on crack buddy.. brain damaged from meth ?

it was a terrorist attack.. plain and simple
save the conspiracy for the Chemtrails and Big Foot.

Since you don't know how privacy laws work or laws that branch country to country
or even how computers work i will just say it wouldn't happen.. ever.

WHY ?

Because guys like me would crack it in a few minutes and spread it across the globe in a heart beat.

I found a Firewall program i liked for windows about 10 years ago now.
You're supposed to buy it to unlock the full version..
So i keygened it and posted it online.
It used a caeser cipher and SHA 256 encryption.
I made 3 keygens.. 1 in .NET (with GUI)
then i made 2 in 'C'
one with a console and one with out. (Win32 API GUI)
THEN.. when i was getting mouthed off by the developer about my handy work online..
I told him he should watch it or "the scene" would have a run at him..
Then i posted a patched .net binary and a picture showing how i could crack and patch his Firewall security
with 1 single fucking byte.. he said i was a liar.
So i posted the picture plus a tutorial and source code for all three keygens and asked him
what did you say ?
He claimed my patch did not work LOL
of course it did hahahha
Then within the week scene groups in the warez scene started pre'ing his ass hard = i had my ROFL'z

But hey it's cute you think you know about computers though.. how adorable LOL

Moral of the story ?
ANY program i have on my machine i crack at will.. i own them.
I am the boss and i AM in charge.. i'm Spoetnik dammit !

Like robin hood i will knock the faggots out and hand the shit out to the common man.
Unlike rich fuckers who live in a Castle with a Bentley.
..uhhm like you ?

PS:
You forgot to self mod this topic baby..

And uhh Off-Topic much champ ?

[Quicken]

Crazy conspriracy stuff aside, biometrics spings to mind - voice print, retinal scan, fingerprint, and handwriting analysis as you enter the characters using a stylus.
Of course it's tough to beat torture if TPTB really want the info.

[Jason.W]

Crazy conspriracy stuff aside, biometrics spings to mind - voice print, retinal scan, fingerprint, and handwriting analysis as you enter the characters using a stylus.
Of course it's tough to beat torture if TPTB really want the info.

How do you think that biometrics could be used to interface with everything online, at home? Not gonna lie, I also thought about the same thing at first. That's pretty much where the thought stopped though.

[ol92]

I am disgusted of the scripted nature of Paris attacks. To a casual observer it is nearing 100% false flag, based on the usual tells:

...
- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)
...

I don't know for the other things, but you shouldn't make this claims for the number of people dead : there is a list of named people dead : some of them were somewhat puplic figures : teacher in university, owner of restaurants. Faking their death seems really difficult.
Your plot theory would be more believable without this specific claim.
Would you live in Paris (like me) and not in a far away place, you would know the reality of their death. I know indirectly some of the dead people by just one or two intermediates.

[Spoetnik]

he said False Flag..
In other words the Paris Govt / Military did it but made it look like terrorists did it for some agenda.
Most likely the conspiracy will have these guys chanting to control the general public..
If they want to do that they will just do it.
They don't need a false flag operation to do that.

Documents from way back had shown the CIA had planned one of these for an attack on US soil
during the Cuban missile crisis era during the cold war.
I guess Kennedy did not approve so it was not put in effect.

The CIA is not suppose to operate on US soil.. that is not their mandate.
That does not stop them from doing it anyway LOL

Most of the US military budget is black projects.
Each B2 costs something close to 2 billion a piece and the original order was for 200 ? bombers i think (later cut down)
These were usd during the cold war to Bomb targets and are now declassified.
20 are suppose to be active and 1 crashed in Guam in 2008

Then let's tally up the cost of the projected F22 Raptors.. The most expensive fighter jet ever.
An estimated cost of 62 Billion dollars for the project.

Then let's look at the cost of the Iraq war.. aprox. 4 Trillion usd to date.

Then let's look at the Budget of Darpa, FBI, CIA etc
Oh wait we can't LOL

Let's tally up how much money the USA has.. 10.5 Trillion.
Hey American's happy whee your tax dollars are going ?
Get a grip on your govt monkeys please thanks.

Point ?
Governments sure as fucking hell don't need to plan little attacks to get what they want
They simply take it at will.

EDIT:
Make sure to blame Welfare Mom's for all your problems though guys..
I am sure that $300 a month she gets is what the REAL problem with society is too..
Hmm if one B2 bomber costs 2 BILLION dollars how many welfare mom's would that feed ?

Maybe see if you guys can re-elect Bush a 3rd time ?
Change the term limits and get him in there again please.. 4 more years.. 4 more years !
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" ..says the banner ROFL

[anthonycamp]

there is nervouse in all of us of europe for the fight against terror and even war against terror cells that try by ideology of stupidity provoce the civilizations and its natural will of love and life but the terror its going to stop if we mind hte gap beteen nations and gather us all against terror east and west and all even china

[Spoetnik]

there is nervouse in all of us of europe for the fight against terror and even war against terror cells that try by ideology of stupidity provoce the civilizations and its natural will of love and life but the terror its going to stop if we mind hte gap beteen nations and gather us all against terror east and west and all even china

I seen an EU Baptist priest claim my fellow people who attended the Death Metal concert deserved it..
oh how Christian like LOL

I heard about this story quick i was visiting a metal news web site where the attack news broke out..
Chino from Deftones was interviewed at the scene he was set to go on stage in a few days.
The band Deftones was almost gone.. close call.
That would suck i like that band !
But yeah i hear we deserved it.. because Metal music is evil and we are devil worshipers etc.

[Jason.W]

Anyone watch/see this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXavIbOQnZw

https://twitter.com/pzbooks/status/664529154344419329

https://twitter.com/Tucker23/status/665880803877003265

[rpietila]

- official death toll (129) widely off from the "number of people who actually lost their life and are confirmed dead as a result" (seen 1, may be more)

I don't know for the other things, but you shouldn't make this claims for the number of people dead : there is a list of named people dead : some of them were somewhat puplic figures : teacher in university, owner of restaurants. Faking their death seems really difficult.

Well I am not a first-timer in these. It is a common occurrence that people claimed to be dead don't actually die. In US it happens often with the so-called shootings.

Yet, It is illogical to claim that people did not die, anyone claiming such does not know logic. (Same as I regard each and everyone claiming to know for sure there is no God, a patent fool with no logic).

But if people did die, there is a very easy way to know it, better than any official talk which time and again is lie: facebook profiles. Might someone be so kind as to show the 100 facebook profiles of the people that were, yet are no more. When journalists are killed in Middle East, their FB going dormant and newsfeed stopping is a proof of death. I mean it's terrible that people die, and disgusting to ask for proof, but in light of the whole thing being such as setup, it's just normal to be wary.

If I was a fool, I would also buy the "just a terrorist attack" story. Show me even one terrorist attack with no western/israel intelligence not planning, executing, at least knowing it for the last 25 years!! 

And let's turn the thread to its topic please - it is easy enough to define - a method to keep accessing an online site from a totally wiretapped environment (because that's what we have, but the bombing attacks are used to officially enable the powers to the controllers so that they can use them in everyday enforcement) without giving reusable info to anyone.

[MisO69]

Crazy conspriracy stuff aside, biometrics spings to mind - voice print, retinal scan, fingerprint, and handwriting analysis as you enter the characters using a stylus.
Of course it's tough to beat torture if TPTB really want the info.

How do you think that biometrics could be used to interface with everything online, at home? Not gonna lie, I also thought about the same thing at first. That's pretty much where the thought stopped though.

Some laptops, like the Lenovo Thinkpads have fingerprint readers, Cameras and microphones. That covers the first 3 biometrics. Hand writing analysis with a stylus isn't really necessary if you have the first 3 imo. As for torture, all the US needs to do is classify you as a terrorist and ship you off to Guantanamo Bay. Then its completely legal. lol.. legal torture. WTF has happend to us?

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

[rpietila]

If you think Paris attacks look "real" and you know the definition of "false flag" (blaming somebody else on the event), I am sorry I can't help you. It is not "real" in the sense of not being a "false flag". There are others who care to debate about it.

I don't care those godless fuckers have set up a bigger torturing centre than anyone else. Yes, I need to tell my wife every day what to do if I don't show up from work, but that is just a fact of life when I lead a godly, heroic, meaningful, and glorious life. Of course they envy me and plot against me day in and day out. I was actually astounded when they first attacked me years ago. I never thought I would have been that important, being a lad who did not know anything or anyone and did not even have any money.

But it would be handy to be able to hold value in some online system. It defeats the meaning of Bitcoin and is a pretty disappointing thought if an official ban on you means that they can confiscate all your bitcoins just as they can confiscate all your bank accounts.

[Robin,Hood]

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

Real fake.  No one died period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI
................check out his vids

[dloghwak]

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

Real fake.  No one died period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI
................check out his vids

Oh boy, never go full retard.
Bitcointalk is stuffed with nutjobs it's hillarious.

[worhiper_-_]

Who is is that helps prevent such attacks? If you think we'd see less terrorism if there wasn't any form of government or authority you're very close to being delusional.

[Thenoticer]

Less and less of us are sheep.

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Oh, and it talks :-)

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[Thenoticer]

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/39305

Siege of Paris Is the Same Group as the Charlie Hebdo Attack

Hollande-Siege of Paris 11-14-2015
The siege of Paris on November 13, 2015, appears to be the same group inside France. The reason we say this is because they are acting in a cyclical manner and each group will conform to a unique cycle. President Hollande went on national TV to announce a state of emergency for the first time in France since 2005. This measure enables the authorities to close public places and impose curfews and restrictions on the movement of traffic and people.

A review of the entire refugee crisis in Europe is underway with many forming the opinion that this has been an invasion. The likelihood of this attack actually escalating the war in the Middle East is extremely high. There is an external influence, no doubt. One of the hostages reported that a terrorist said, “It’s the fault of Hollande, it’s the fault of your president, he should not have intervened in Syria.”

However, the cyclical pattern suggests that this is a terrorist group acting internally in France. Perhaps they do get orders from outside, or they may be acting on their own within France. What is clear is that there is an internal element within France that is making the decision with regard to timing.

Between the Charlie Hebdo attack on January 7, 2015 (2015.019), and this current siege of Paris on November 13, 2015 (2015.868), there was 309.9 days or 36 intervals of 8.6 days. This implies that it was a decision made by the same source. There may be people who have infiltrated Europe who are using the refugee migration as a cover given the sheer number of terrorists involved. Still, the decision appears to be the same source as the Hebdo event.

911   2001.696            
Madrid   2004.192            
Hebdo   2015.019            
Paris   2015.868   11.6767   0.84923   309.969   4261.995
36.0429   495.5809
14.1726         5172.999
601.5115

[MisO69]

As for the Paris attacks being a false flag well I doubt that very much. That certainly looks real to me.

Real fake.  No one died period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s36-nniB1JI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FEeME8yoI
................check out his vids

Alright I watched his vids. The guy who posted those videos did some re-encoding of them and removed details so that his bullshit story can sound real. he blurred them and darkened them.

This is the actual unedited version of his videos, you'll find it much clearer and brighter. watch?v=TFz9jB3p3IY

So he claims that the woman hanging is being suspended by a harness. While no ropes can bee seen in his shitty video a quick look at the proper video shows she is standing on steel bars which are attached to the window below.

Here is a google street view of the building. you can clearly see the bars. https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.8628421,2.3705084,3a,90y,337.47h,111.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUYsdu4ASc9tFtzh3evGSqA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

There are dead bodies on the ground, a couple being dragged away, probably by friends. A guy hopping down the alley, clearly took a bullet in the leg. While this dirt bag talks about spider man and wonder woman hanging out on the ledge.

Whats clear is that the poster had an agenda, I think it was to get youtube viewers any way he could... The fucking pile of shit he is.

[ArticMine]

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But as to the main point - are there any technologies that allow you to store and move value online so that nothing you ever type on your keyboard can be used to decipher access codes that allow the transfer of more value in the future? How does that work?
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Very simple. Say no to proprietary operating systems. The first step is to click I do not agree on Microsoft's and Apple's EULAs. I posted on simple solutions using GNU/Linux in the Windows 10 security issues thread.

If you trust Microsoft and the US Government with your private keys then by all means use Windows 10. I use GNU/Linux and I must say that I trust the US Government way more than many on this forum.

As for staying with Windows 7, why keep fighting change? The direction that Microsoft is heading in has been very clear for a very long time. I moved to GNU/Linux back in 2006 since at the time I did not like the "vista" on the horizon.

I switched to GNU/linux back in 2009. The only problem for me arose when I bought an HP laptop. It has been a pain in the ass only to install Ubuntu due to UEFI restrictions. After I installed everything, wifi and video card would not work properly and I had to go back to win 8.1
I also tried manjaro linux (based on Arch) and opensuse but nothing changed.
Do you know any good laptop which are fully compatible with linux nowadays?

The first thing to understand about buying a laptop from a vendor such as HP is that there are basically two kinds of laptops. Those sold to consumers and students which are basically junk that is engineered to fail in about 6 months, and those sold to businesses that are quality products designed to last for a long time. It is important to realize that the same manufacturers are selling both the junk and the quality products. The simple way to tell them apart is that the consumer versions come with a glossy high glare screen and the "standard" "home" or "personal" versions of Windows while the business versions come with a matt anti glare screen and the "pro" or "business versions of Windows. So "HP Laptop" is meaningless depending on whether it is consumer or business it is either a piece of junk or a quality product.

The option for a GNU/Linux laptop are several depending on budget.

1) Purchase a Laptop that is designed from the ground up to run GNU/Linux

Here are some examples:

https://puri.sm/ This in an over subscribed crowd funding campaign for a Laptop designed for 100% Libre GNU/linux distributions. This by the way ensures it will work with virtually any modern GNU/linux distribution.

https://system76.com/

zareason.com/

etc.

2) Purchase an older (Windows 7 era) business laptop, and upgrade the hard drive to large SSD and possibly also the RAM. Before buying check online if that particular model has any driver issues with GNU/Linux. One thing to keep in mind is that if it is two or there years old and there little or no hits on the fora then it is likely to have few if any problems. Also when it comes to drivers GNU/Linux is very good at supporting hardware typically after about 2 years so something that failed say in 2013 could very easily work fine today. I recently bought two HP 2760p EliteBooks from a government auction for well under 200 CAD each. After adding a 1 TB SSD each and upgrading the RAM on one to 16 GB and the other to 8 GB I have two quality laptops that will last me a long time.  One of them replaced an HP Evo 1000c with a Windows 2000 logo and 3.5in floppy drive that provided me with close to a decade of service. When I replaced it this summer it was running a full Bitcoin node using Trisquel GNU/linux. By the way UEFI should not be a problem if it is unlocked (Windows 8.x and earlier). Just go into the bios and unlock it. If it is a Windows 10 machine it may be locked. I suspect that most of the locked Windows 10 laptops will be sold to consumers as part of Microsoft and its partners ongoing junk for consumers program.

3) Buy a Chromebook and upgrade the hard drive. Chromebooks are good GNU/Linux computers except that they have ridiculously small hard drives. They have to be sold unlocked because Chrome OS contains GPLv3 code.

Edit: I have been using this very simple solution for well over 9 years before crypto currencies even existed.