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... they should create a solution that won't affect the genuine users but at the same time protects the site from bots.
Saying stuff like that when you don't have anything to offer is too easy. You could at least throw ideas how that should be implemented. KYC verified accounts can be excused from completing captcha but that would not help genuine users who prefer to remain anonymous. It's a good idea to exclude verified users from captcha filling every time they claim it but I think it is an insult to the unverified players and most of the players are unverified so maybe not the best idea, although surely a good option. I think they can make a rule, something like: A player who has completed a few tasks like made at least 100 bets, sent at least 20 messages in chat or something like that where a user has to engage in the website to get hassle-free nitros while a player who doesn't complete the basic requirements has to complete the human verification.
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Saying stuff like that when you don't have anything to offer is too easy. You could at least throw ideas how that should be implemented. KYC verified accounts can be excused from completing captcha but that would not help genuine users who prefer to remain anonymous. Dumbass, you know how many stolen identities there are that are sold around? Enough for a dedicated bot abuser to bypass the captcha since most of them don't require you to show the face in the identity and if so they just use more ways to get those pictures.
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It's a good idea to exclude verified users from captcha filling every time they claim it but I think it is an insult to the unverified players and most of the players are unverified so maybe not the best idea, although surely a good option.
I think they can make a rule, something like: A player who has completed a few tasks like made at least 100 bets, sent at least 20 messages in chat or something like that where a user has to engage in the website to get hassle-free nitros while a player who doesn't complete the basic requirements has to complete the human verification.
I wouldn't say it's an insult, it's more of a perks of being a verified user but as @zanezane has pointed out, there's a likely chance that people can still exploit the Captcha free experience for verified users.
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Have you noticed that bitsler has changed their captcha to claim bitsler coin. I do not understand why they need captcha for claiming bitsler coin as well as nitro. They may ask to provide captcha verification before login. And also they may ask same for withdrawal. But asking for free coin they should not ask for this type of verification.
I think that is because the players were cheating the casino with bots. I am assuming that because another casino recently implemented captchas for every reload claim we make and when I asked more about it, I got to know that some players have created bots and code that was claiming the faucets all day without any effort. I understand that BTSLR coins are meant for fun but because there is a balance contest going on with it, that rewards players with real coins for the winners, they had to implement it, I think. I agree though that too many captchas kill the fun because it is hard to fill those captchas all the time and then lose it all in a single click. I used to stack bitsler coins and then play them with a 10x or 20x multiplier but now it's just too hard.
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Saying stuff like that when you don't have anything to offer is too easy. You could at least throw ideas how that should be implemented. KYC verified accounts can be excused from completing captcha but that would not help genuine users who prefer to remain anonymous. Dumbass, you know how many stolen identities there are that are sold around? Enough for a dedicated bot abuser to bypass the captcha since most of them don't require you to show the face in the identity and if so they just use more ways to get those pictures. Some smart ass you are. You posted twice and yet you have nothing better to offer. It's only an option and may be an added benefit for verified users aside from exclusive access to other games and promotions. Perhaps you are not aware that some users on Bitsler are already KYC verified? ... It's a good idea to exclude verified users from captcha filling every time they claim it but I think it is an insult to the unverified players and most of the players are unverified so maybe not the best idea, although surely a good option.
That's one thing I thought could happen if my idea would be followed. I think they can make a rule, something like: A player who has completed a few tasks like made at least 100 bets, sent at least 20 messages in chat or something like that where a user has to engage in the website to get hassle-free nitros while a player who doesn't complete the basic requirements has to complete the human verification. Or something like reaching a certain rank. The higher it is the better.
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July 08, 2021, 12:27:06 PM |
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Saying stuff like that when you don't have anything to offer is too easy. You could at least throw ideas how that should be implemented.
KYC verified accounts can be excused from completing captcha but that would not help genuine users who prefer to remain anonymous.
Dumbass, you know how many stolen identities there are that are sold around? Enough for a dedicated bot abuser to bypass the captcha since most of them don't require you to show the face in the identity and if so they just use more ways to get those pictures. Well true and some people are offering such services for quite cheap so you have a point but there was no need to get personal with zanezane because he/she just wanted to get more ideas from users and I wish there could be a system such that abusers can't take advantage while real players can claim bonuses/coins without any complications. I wouldn't say it's an insult, it's more of a perks of being a verified user but as @zanezane has pointed out, there's a likely chance that people can still exploit the Captcha free experience for verified users.
It's quite easy too with so many KYC sellers in the market. It would mean the abusers are enjoying those perks while the real user is getting complicated captchas.
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July 08, 2021, 05:57:12 PM Last edit: July 08, 2021, 06:15:00 PM by jamyr |
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Saying stuff like that when you don't have anything to offer is too easy. You could at least throw ideas how that should be implemented. KYC verified accounts can be excused from completing captcha but that would not help genuine users who prefer to remain anonymous. Dumbass, you know how many stolen identities there are that are sold around? Enough for a dedicated bot abuser to bypass the captcha since most of them don't require you to show the face in the identity and if so they just use more ways to get those pictures. Some smart ass you are. You posted twice and yet you have nothing better to offer. It's only an option and may be an added benefit for verified users aside from exclusive access to other games and promotions. Perhaps you are not aware that some users on Bitsler are already KYC verified? ... It's a good idea to exclude verified users from captcha filling every time they claim it but I think it is an insult to the unverified players and most of the players are unverified so maybe not the best idea, although surely a good option.
That's one thing I thought could happen if my idea would be followed. I think they can make a rule, something like: A player who has completed a few tasks like made at least 100 bets, sent at least 20 messages in chat or something like that where a user has to engage in the website to get hassle-free nitros while a player who doesn't complete the basic requirements has to complete the human verification. Or something like reaching a certain rank. The higher it is the better. If you both are in Bitsler Chat, there is a function that I've seen (" forceIgnore "). Very cool feature actually .
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shasan
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Have you noticed that bitsler has changed their captcha to claim bitsler coin. I do not understand why they need captcha for claiming bitsler coin as well as nitro. They may ask to provide captcha verification before login. And also they may ask same for withdrawal. But asking for free coin they should not ask for this type of verification.
I think that is because the players were cheating the casino with bots. I am assuming that because another casino recently implemented captchas for every reload claim we make and when I asked more about it, I got to know that some players have created bots and code that was claiming the faucets all day without any effort. I understand that BTSLR coins are meant for fun but because there is a balance contest going on with it, that rewards players with real coins for the winners, they had to implement it, I think. I agree though that too many captchas kill the fun because it is hard to fill those captchas all the time and then lose it all in a single click. I used to stack bitsler coins and then play them with a 10x or 20x multiplier but now it's just too hard. If they are afraid of cheating for bot then why they are accepting bet by bot which they have own. I think it is self-contradictory of them. And I do not think any reputed user from bitsler will try to take the bitsler coin by any unfair means to loss their account. Also, same for nitro. Actually they want to give as low nitro as possible but they will show they are giving more. But they will give low by the name of captcha.
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I think that is because the players were cheating the casino with bots. I am assuming that because another casino recently implemented captchas for every reload claim we make and when I asked more about it, I got to know that some players have created bots and code that was claiming the faucets all day without any effort.
I understand that BTSLR coins are meant for fun but because there is a balance contest going on with it, that rewards players with real coins for the winners, they had to implement it, I think. I agree though that too many captchas kill the fun because it is hard to fill those captchas all the time and then lose it all in a single click. I used to stack bitsler coins and then play them with a 10x or 20x multiplier but now it's just too hard.
If they are afraid of cheating for bot then why they are accepting bet by bot which they have own. I think it is self-contradictory of them. And I do not think any reputed user from bitsler will try to take the bitsler coin by any unfair means to loss their account. Also, same for nitro. Actually they want to give as low nitro as possible but they will show they are giving more. But they will give low by the name of captcha. I am pretty sure that it is hard to "prevent" bot but it is easier to punish bot. How? Well, you can't check every single person who wagers, which is an impossible task because it is highly unlikely that you will face any problems in that many bets, you will see only a few, which should be bots, why check one in a million when you can check one in 50k? So that means you check after people win, and after they win you don't check all of it, which drops the number even more, you only check the ones that do not have KYC that do not have any patterns before and so forth. That leaves only the people that ended up winning and also looking shady, and that is the only thing that really matters. Which is why I personally believe that we should be understanding towards the casinos who take the bets of bots, but also bans them after they win, it is easier that way (and profitable too).
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I have a question for the Bitsler admins. When I log in to my Bitsler account, it shows that I can make 20 faucet claims per day. But the Bitsler coin information page states that accounts of all levels can claim coins up to 50 times per day. I was wondering which of these two numbers is the correct one? Is the info page outdated or have you changed it so that all players can't make 50 claims/day?
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I have a question for the Bitsler admins. When I log in to my Bitsler account, it shows that I can make 20 faucet claims per day. But the Bitsler coin information page states that accounts of all levels can claim coins up to 50 times per day. I was wondering which of these two numbers is the correct one? Is the info page outdated or have you changed it so that all players can't make 50 claims/day? I've told Marilyn from Live Support about this inquiry so that admins can be notified. https://www.bitsler.com/en/supportIf you would take an opinion from a player like me: I believe 20 claims are available for players that are new or whose level falls below the minimum requirement to participate in the BTSLR contest, Which is at least bronze 1. Not 100% sure though.
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shasan
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I have a question for the Bitsler admins. When I log in to my Bitsler account, it shows that I can make 20 faucet claims per day. But the Bitsler coin information page states that accounts of all levels can claim coins up to 50 times per day. I was wondering which of these two numbers is the correct one? Is the info page outdated or have you changed it so that all players can't make 50 claims/day? According to the information of bitsler coin provided by bitsler all users can claim upto fifty times per day. For rank coins amount per claim can be vary but not the number of claim. If you really have 20 claims within within 24 hours according to forum time then there is something wrong. You may face this issue for claiming 30 claims within first 12 hours. If you used 30 claims within first 12 hours then you will have 20 claims left for rest of the 12 hours.
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<Snip> I am aware of what the information page says, but it's either incorrect/outdated or the same number of claims don't apply to all account levels. I created a throw-away account on Bitsler to check certain things in the past, so my account is of the lowest level possible. I didn't claim any coins before writing the previous post and I didn't claim any today, but still I only have 20 claims left. Let's see if someone from the Bitsler team offers some better insight.
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Last night Very Recently, I was able to get to the BTSLR Challenge leaderboard, as I was not very mindful of the time but I was really trying to win the first place. For people who love competition/challenges but do not know what BTSLR Challenge is: https://www.bitsler.com/en/bitsler-coins/info
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<Snip> I am aware of what the information page says, but it's either incorrect/outdated or the same number of claims don't apply to all account levels. I created a throw-away account on Bitsler to check certain things in the past, so my account is of the lowest level possible. I didn't claim any coins before writing the previous post and I didn't claim any today, but still I only have 20 claims left. Let's see if someone from the Bitsler team offers some better insight. Indeed the number of claims for players with no level and Iron 1&2 players has been updated, but we forgot to update the rule on the site. We will update it asap to : Players with no level can claim 20 times every day. Iron 1 and 2 players can claim 25 times every day. Players from all other levels can claim 50 times every day. Thanks for pointing this out! Cheers, Gabriel
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shasan
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July 15, 2021, 03:27:44 PM |
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<Snip> I am aware of what the information page says, but it's either incorrect/outdated or the same number of claims don't apply to all account levels. I created a throw-away account on Bitsler to check certain things in the past, so my account is of the lowest level possible. I didn't claim any coins before writing the previous post and I didn't claim any today, but still I only have 20 claims left. Let's see if someone from the Bitsler team offers some better insight. Indeed the number of claims for players with no level and Iron 1&2 players has been updated, but we forgot to update the rule on the site. We will update it asap to : Players with no level can claim 20 times every day. Iron 1 and 2 players can claim 25 times every day. Players from all other levels can claim 50 times every day. Thanks for pointing this out! Cheers, Gabriel It is very disappointed that you have lowered the number of claim but you have not updated that on your site. It is very unprofessional happenings and we never hope anything like this from a reputed gambling sites like bitsler.
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I am pretty sure that it is hard to "prevent" bot but it is easier to punish bot. How? Well, you can't check every single person who wagers, which is an impossible task because it is highly unlikely that you will face any problems in that many bets, you will see only a few, which should be bots, why check one in a million when you can check one in 50k? So that means you check after people win, and after they win you don't check all of it, which drops the number even more, you only check the ones that do not have KYC that do not have any patterns before and so forth.
That leaves only the people that ended up winning and also looking shady, and that is the only thing that really matters. Which is why I personally believe that we should be understanding towards the casinos who take the bets of bots, but also bans them after they win, it is easier that way (and profitable too).
That's a bit cheeky though isn't it? I am not saying it is wrong, it is obviously not wrong because that is the correct method that almost every casino uses. So how can you really blame bitsler for something that every single other casino does? That is why I am not saying it is a wrong thing to do by bitsler. However even though all casinos do it, that is still a bit cheeky isn't it? It is basically something that bitsler and all other casinos does but at the same time it should not be that way, there should be "prevention" before it even happens. Think about it, you let the shady people gamble, if they lose then you get to keep their money, and if they win then you say they tried to scam and they end up still keeping the casino as well. So long story short casinos get to keep all those scammers money anyway, instead of preventing and that is a bit cheeky, still quite fair grounds though.
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Let us not make a big deal out of this. Not forgetting to update the terms would have prevented these concerns and discussions but it's still a minor thing. Things like this happens to any big company or any reputable gambling platform.
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July 15, 2021, 07:22:12 PM |
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<Snip> OK, good to know. Thanks for clarifying. I will link to your post in my thread as explanation why all accounts don't have the same number of claims. It is very disappointed that you have lowered the number of claim but you have not updated that on your site. It is very unprofessional happenings and we never hope anything like this from a reputed gambling sites like bitsler. Personally, I don't consider it such a big issue. They could have done better regarding the information the site displays, but it's not something worth getting upset about.
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July 16, 2021, 05:18:31 AM |
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<Snip> I am aware of what the information page says, but it's either incorrect/outdated or the same number of claims don't apply to all account levels. I created a throw-away account on Bitsler to check certain things in the past, so my account is of the lowest level possible. I didn't claim any coins before writing the previous post and I didn't claim any today, but still I only have 20 claims left. Let's see if someone from the Bitsler team offers some better insight. Indeed the number of claims for players with no level and Iron 1&2 players has been updated, but we forgot to update the rule on the site. We will update it asap to : Players with no level can claim 20 times every day. Iron 1 and 2 players can claim 25 times every day. Players from all other levels can claim 50 times every day. Thanks for pointing this out! Cheers, Gabriel It is very disappointed that you have lowered the number of claim but you have not updated that on your site. It is very unprofessional happenings and we never hope anything like this from a reputed gambling sites like bitsler. Any casinos may make mistakes or forget about something but as long as they are aware, admit it and willing to fix it then it is professional behavior. In this case, it is not a big mistake and do not really affect user's balance as it is just about faucet information that is not being updated after the change. Reputable gambling sites does not mean that they will not make any mistakes.
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