Encouraging people to adopt Bitcoin.

[MortonCharbo]

I've been in and out of the Bitcoin scene since it's start. More and more, over the years, I've been overwhelmingly convinced that it is worthwhile. I believe there is a need to get more people to accept Bitcoin as something very real and useful. It will help with the growth of the community and help to insure the future use and growth of Bitcoin in general if we show people that they can be a part of it. I do not have the money to do something like this alone, but what I do have is passion, tenacity, and of course time. Personally, I see a huge opportunity here and hope others do to.

[franky1]

general public right now no..

and here is the reasons.
to advertise to 7 billion people will cost millions
the average person wants to be able to buy toilet roll, cigarettes, alcohol, baked beans, electric, gas, rent. all of which bitcoin is not ready for
the average person would get too confused. not sure where to buy it and then not sure who to trust to use it with or what to spend it on.

bitcoin is still at the innovation stage and as such there should only be campaigns directed at businesses.. not the public(yet).
bitcoin will only be 'average joe' ready when its truly easier to use than fiat and just as usable as fiat for daily life stuff.. which you'll see if you put the bitcoins utopian concept aside and think about the reality of real life bitcoin use..

[helloeverybody]

I've tried convincing many people to join btc but so far no one has taken me on.

[franky1]

I've tried convincing many people to join btc but so far no one has taken me on.

the general view of average joe is that bitcoin is a 'buy and hold' asset.
as you cant trust exchanges really, you cant buy baked beans with it.. thus only the business savvi people would be interested in it right now in its current form

[chennuan]

In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known

[helloeverybody]

In China, many people use online payment now, Alipay, Wechat wallet, but Bitcoins are little known

I am surprised it hasn't replaced western union tbh.  Maybe just need more time to stabilise.

[Amph]

I've tried convincing many people to join btc but so far no one has taken me on.

because they want them for free, no one watn to pay for something so unstable, with his/her money

it's understandable, maybe it's better to direct them on some activity that can give they a small amount o begin with, first

[hunnaryb]

Bitcoin couldn't function on the scale that western union does, at some point, the business would get fucked over by the large swings in price.

[helloeverybody]

Bitcoin couldn't function on the scale that western union does, at some point, the business would get fucked over by the large swings in price.

So hopefully with larger adoption and thinning of the number of btc that whales and early adopters have then the price will become more stable and then would be a perfect replacement.

[dothebeats]

For the people who already have internet access on their homes, this might be possible. The real deal is how are you going to pitch it big time and how are you going to explain it clearly to the public.

[hunnaryb]

You do realise that every market has players that have far more of the asset than the rest of the market. They are called market makers. These could be institutions or governments. The guys that control BTC price, will always have more BTC than everyone, they aren't looking to make money by selling all their btc off, they make money by playing a continuous game of redistribution of wealth.

[helloeverybody]

You do realise that every market has players that have far more of the asset than the rest of the market. They are called market makers. These could be institutions or governments. The guys that control BTC price, will always have more BTC than everyone, they aren't looking to make money by selling all their btc off, they make money by playing a continuous game of redistribution of wealth.

Of course but the more new people that buy into btc,  the less of an impact these market makers can make. 

[MortonCharbo]

Some very interesting points made here so far. I wasn't expecting much of a response to be honest but I'm glad to be wrong. I do agree that at this stage, encouragement generally needs to be directed at businesses. I would say that supermarkets might be a great place to start with that, considering what franky1 said.

In terms of explaining it to people, I have a few ideas on that. One of them is to give people paper wallets with $5-$20 worth on them. Then sit with them and walk them through several processes like making a purchase with bitcoin and how to transfer btc between accounts. Also explaining to them how everything works as they themselves are actually doing it. People like to have their hand held through new experiences. This method also takes away the risk people would see with using their own money, at least to start with.

Another way to educate people is to sit down with them and walk them through ways of acquiring bitcoin. Starting with faucets, which may be obvious to many, but most likely not newcomers. Then move on to other possibilities such as local trading (with advice on security of course) or buying through sites. I have a few in mind but don't want to name them for multiple reasons.

My idea of pitching it big is basically the fact that I, or someone else, would personally sit down with a person and take them through the various processes. The hands-on aspect is what makes it work.

As a side note, I, or someone else, could also walk them through how to tip with bitcoin. A learning experience that benefits both parties. Not a necessary part, but a possibility.

[FerrariF50]

You do realise that every market has players that have far more of the asset than the rest of the market. They are called market makers. These could be institutions or governments. The guys that control BTC price, will always have more BTC than everyone, they aren't looking to make money by selling all their btc off, they make money by playing a continuous game of redistribution of wealth.

So bitcoin price is controlled? Possible to trade it?

Some very interesting points made here so far. I wasn't expecting much of a response to be honest but I'm glad to be wrong. I do agree that at this stage, encouragement generally needs to be directed at businesses. I would say that supermarkets might be a great place to start with that, considering what franky1 said.

In terms of explaining it to people, I have a few ideas on that. One of them is to give people paper wallets with $5-$20 worth on them. Then sit with them and walk them through several processes like making a purchase with bitcoin and how to transfer btc between accounts. Also explaining to them how everything works as they themselves are actually doing it. People like to have their hand held through new experiences. This method also takes away the risk people would see with using their own money, at least to start with.

Another way to educate people is to sit down with them and walk them through ways of acquiring bitcoin. Starting with faucets, which may be obvious to many, but most likely not newcomers. Then move on to other possibilities such as local trading (with advice on security of course) or buying through sites. I have a few in mind but don't want to name them for multiple reasons.

My idea of pitching it big is basically the fact that I, or someone else, would personally sit down with a person and take them through the various processes. The hands-on aspect is what makes it work.

As a side note, I, or someone else, could also walk them through how to tip with bitcoin. A learning experience that benefits both parties. Not a necessary part, but a possibility.

Sounds like a pretty good idea. Reminds me of those lessons to teach older people on how to use computers etc. But takes alot of time and effort to have a large impact

[dothebeats]

You do realise that every market has players that have far more of the asset than the rest of the market. They are called market makers. These could be institutions or governments. The guys that control BTC price, will always have more BTC than everyone, they aren't looking to make money by selling all their btc off, they make money by playing a continuous game of redistribution of wealth.

And you do realize that fiat is controlled by the governments and we wholly support that. Surely we know that much of the price movements in btc are controlled and cannot always be accounted to some sort of natural growth. And you say continuous wealth distribution right? That opens up a larger frame wherein people could get involved. I don't see anything wrong with the wealth redistribution, actually.

[MortonCharbo]

Sounds like a pretty good idea. Reminds me of those lessons to teach older people on how to use computers etc. But takes alot of time and effort to have a large impact

I don't mind the time and effort at all. When I believe in doing something, I stop at nothing to accomplish it.

It's the same concept as those lessons, yes. This is only part of my big picture though. I aim to develop an organization that can do this on a larger scale than just one person, eventually having promoted events and such. I aim big, and I don't expect results overnight.

You do realise that every market has players that have far more of the asset than the rest of the market. They are called market makers. These could be institutions or governments. The guys that control BTC price, will always have more BTC than everyone, they aren't looking to make money by selling all their btc off, they make money by playing a continuous game of redistribution of wealth.

And you do realize that fiat is controlled by the governments and we wholly support that. Surely we know that much of the price movements in btc are controlled and cannot always be accounted to some sort of natural growth. And you say continuous wealth distribution right? That opens up a larger frame wherein people could get involved. I don't see anything wrong with the wealth redistribution, actually.

Without delving in to politics too much, I wholeheartedly agree with this. If people understand the similarities between bitcoin and dollar(or any currency for that matter), that will make them more comfortable in getting involved with it.

[eli113]

right now bitcoin is just an opportunity for some people out there ,it creates some jobs around it
like miners, some people paid to talk about it, some people may run imposible barely-legal activities with it,
we here have some perhaps good time or fun to talk about it BUT there is nothing more

for people who work and earn decent money already bitcoin is just "a high-tech thing"
as i am reading from many random sources all mainstream merchants are keeping distance from it
too complicated , far away from being a everyday currency and the funny thing is
when serious players start to adopt bitcoin it will propably end as everything else >>

we ask for easier transactions, we ask for safer wallets,exchanges etc etc
in reality we ask to make bitcoin like any other normal currency but that is nonsense

What remains is the promise of bitcoin price run very high so any bitcoin owner can get
flat money profit ,like a lottery ticket with better maths supporting it "Thing"

promotion can go like this :

did u want gambling in non-regulated online casinos? did u want to try ponzies and other scams ?
did u want to buy collectibles like physical BTC coins and such ?
did u want to risk some real money into something you cant really understand ?
==============BUY BITCOIN NOW================================:)

[n2004al]

I've been in and out of the Bitcoin scene since it's start. More and more, over the years, I've been overwhelmingly convinced that it is worthwhile. I believe there is a need to get more people to accept Bitcoin as something very real and useful. It will help with the growth of the community and help to insure the future use and growth of Bitcoin in general if we show people that they can be a part of it. I do not have the money to do something like this alone, but what I do have is passion, tenacity, and of course time. Personally, I see a huge opportunity here and hope others do to.

I wold suggest that you must give more detailed data about such important thing. Even if you will wanted some nuts everyone will thought twice before giving those. Not because of their cost but because don't see valid reason and argumentation to give those. And not when it is talked about money. You tell that have a long experience with bitcoin. Since its first day. And you are entered in its forum only two weeks ago. How is possible this? A first bitcoiner who join its forum after 6 years. Then at your third post in its forum you ask money. Another question-mark in the mind of everyone: without telling any word about bitcoin and giving any kind of data except the above three-four rows, ask money using the name of bitcoin?

If I would be a normal person, my thoughts about you (and this doesn't mean that can be true; would be only mine) would be that you are an impostor. Someone which make as its third post a post with four-five rows in which request to have money for something "big" which can be read in other tens of posts make before its enter in bitcointalk, cannot have other name.

But I am not normal. I am a strange person. So I don't think that you are an impostor. As a strange person I would advice you that, to ask money, needed more than your rows. Much, much more. Give a good detailed project and a very good plan about what you want to achieve and in which way (exactly and step by step) think to realize that. Then put all here in this thread or in a new one and then try to ask money. After reading those things all the strange people (because the normal ones wouldn't believe again you having this kind of experience before) can read what you have invented and, if will like it, maybe will give you the needed money. Or that they can.

[MortonCharbo]

right now bitcoin is just an opportunity for some people out there ,it creates some jobs around it
like miners, some people paid to talk about it, some people may run imposible barely-legal activities with it,
we here have some perhaps good time or fun to talk about it BUT there is nothing more

for people who work and earn decent money already bitcoin is just "a high-tech thing"
as i am reading from many random sources all mainstream merchants are keeping distance from it
too complicated , far away from being a everyday currency and the funny thing is
when serious players start to adopt bitcoin it will propably end as everything else >>

we ask for easier transactions, we ask for safer wallets,exchanges etc etc
in reality we ask to make bitcoin like any other normal currency but that is nonsense

What remains is the promise of bitcoin price run very high so any bitcoin owner can get
flat money profit ,like a lottery ticket with better maths supporting it "Thing"

promotion can go like this :

did u want gambling in non-regulated online casinos? did u want to try ponzies and other scams ?
did u want to buy collectibles like physical BTC coins and such ?
did u want to risk some real money into something you cant really understand ?
==============BUY BITCOIN NOW================================:)

A lot of this is what I want to change. You've summed up a huge portion of what motivates me. I'm not looking to promote a get rich quick scheme, or even necessarily a way to make money at all. I don't promote illegal activity or dodgy practices. Mainly I'm looking to make people more comfortable with bitcoin.

I've been in and out of the Bitcoin scene since it's start. More and more, over the years, I've been overwhelmingly convinced that it is worthwhile. I believe there is a need to get more people to accept Bitcoin as something very real and useful. It will help with the growth of the community and help to insure the future use and growth of Bitcoin in general if we show people that they can be a part of it. I do not have the money to do something like this alone, but what I do have is passion, tenacity, and of course time. Personally, I see a huge opportunity here and hope others do to.

I wold suggest that you must give more detailed data about such important thing. Even if you will wanted some nuts everyone will thought twice before giving those. Not because of their cost but because don't see valid reason and argumentation to give those. And not when it is talked about money. You tell that have a long experience with bitcoin. Since its first day. And you are entered in its forum only two weeks ago. How is possible this? A first bitcoiner who join its forum after 6 years. Then at your third post in its forum you ask money. Another question-mark in the mind of everyone: without telling any word about bitcoin and giving any kind of data except the above three-four rows, ask money using the name of bitcoin?

If I would be a normal person, my thoughts about you (and this doesn't mean that can be true; would be only mine) would be that you are an impostor. Someone which make as its third post a post with four-five rows in which request to have money for something "big" which can be read in other tens of posts make before its enter in bitcointalk, cannot have other name.

But I am not normal. I am a strange person. So I don't think that you are an impostor. As a strange person I would advice you that, to ask money, needed more than your rows. Much, much more. Give a good detailed project and a very good plan about what you want to achieve and in which way (exactly and step by step) think to realize that. Then put all here in this thread or in a new one and then try to ask money. After reading those things all the strange people (because the normal ones wouldn't believe again you having this kind of experience before) can read what you have invented and, if will like it, maybe will give you the needed money. Or that they can.

I understand you completely and no offense taken. As I said, I've been in and out. I'm a very private person in general. I don't typically come to forums and voice my opinions, and this is the only forum I'm even part of. I'm not asking for money. I'm gauging interest in this and seeing what peoples' opinions are. As for a detailed plan, this is part of the process for building it. Everything has to start somewhere.

[~Bitcoin~]

Today i have withdrawn around 55$ in my bank to show my father and family that bitcoin is like money. I am waiting my father to come and see my bank account. He have sayed he will give me equal amount of money if i can show him. Yes in this way i am also encouraging my family and other people to adopt bitcoin.