★★ Coinbuilder ★★ | BUILD | In-wallet altcoin generator | Stage 2 soon

[tarmi]

The unsold coins will be destroyed in one transaction after Stage 3.
This means the total unsold from each stage - the coins given away for bounties.
The markets remain closed until Stage 3 is completed.

[tarmi]

Hi,
just few words about my collaboration in this project.

I was contacted by tarmi asking me if i was interested in sell "batch" CAT copies.
He told me about a project where users could get CAT staking coins.
I told yes and i explain him how a CAT Purchase works.
I was very clear and transparent "You must tell me number of CAT copies, i will tell you price, you pay, i will give you copies". Nothing more nothing less.

Than this topic was open and i confirm that CAT collaboration was legit (with a message in the first pages).

Then i start receive unexpected PM from users.
3 Kinds of PM
- Be aware of that project because.....
- If you are collaborating on this project it means that this project is legit so i will buy BUILD
- Is this project legit?

So these are my answer :
- I'm not involved in this project more than receive a request of CAT Batch copies and prepare them.
- I Don't now anyone behind this project
- I don't have any reason to trust or not trust this project

As i told to tarmi, my reputation is very important, so i ask for guarantees about our partnership.
Actually no guarantees received (words have no value for me)

If i receive guarantees i will write about it in this topic.

There's an imprecision in the OP:

Just enter your bitcointalk username in your wallet, and hold your BUILD for 30 days to get your personal C.A.T. license in your wallet!

It's not IN YOUR WALLET, it's only "to get your personal C.A.T. license"

TL;DR
I don't know nothing about this project, i don't know who is behind this project, my only agreement is to prepare CAT copies to tarmi after payment receive.

Sampey will confirm once the payments have been made.
I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now, while this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
Halfway stage 2 or even maybe stage 3 the licences will be bought, but it's none of your businesses how much, and at what costs.
Like i said before, Sampey will confirm if and when the licenses are purchased.

[ocminer]

Was the Video with the Demo released yet ?

[Sampey]

Sampey will confirm once the payments have been made.
I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now, while this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
Halfway stage 2 or even maybe stage 3 the licences will be bought, but it's none of your businesses how much, and at what costs.
Like i said before, Sampey will confirm if and when the licenses are purchased.

This is not our agreements.
Last time we talk about 3 day
And you literally told me "you'll have the funds before we start Stage 2 - And can confirm it on the OP"

So what do we wanna do?

[tarmi]

Was the Video with the Demo released yet ?

26/12 when we have our new visual branding  
People like graphical elements, nothing to do about that one.

[tarmi]

Sampey will confirm once the payments have been made.
I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now, while this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
Halfway stage 2 or even maybe stage 3 the licences will be bought, but it's none of your businesses how much, and at what costs.
Like i said before, Sampey will confirm if and when the licenses are purchased.

This is not our agreements.
Last time we talk about 3 day
And you literally told me "you'll have the funds before we start Stage 2 - And can confirm it on the OP"

So what do we wanna do?

I have the funds available. But like you quoted, this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
If my primary project objectives have been completed, i'll gladly purchase the licenses we agreed on.
This is what i mean by "I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now".

[ocminer]

lol ... reading all this.. reminds me of:

[Sampey]

I have the funds available. But like you quoted, this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
If my primary project objectives have been completed, i'll gladly purchase the licenses we agreed on.
This is what i mean by "I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now".

I don't agree with that.

You told me the phrase i quote  "you'll have the funds before we start Stage 2 - And can confirm it on the OP"
You have the funds, so 1 click and we have completed our first agreements.

You told me that right?
I ask for guarantee right?

So, be a man of words and respect our agreements and i will confirm all in this topic.

Otherwise things could seems a little bit shady.
And i don't want to take part at shady project.

[anticlimax]

lol ... reading all this.. reminds me of:

So blatantly obvious..

[niktitan132]

Sampey will confirm once the payments have been made.
I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now, while this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
Halfway stage 2 or even maybe stage 3 the licences will be bought, but it's none of your businesses how much, and at what costs.
Like i said before, Sampey will confirm if and when the licenses are purchased.

This is not our agreements.
Last time we talk about 3 day
And you literally told me "you'll have the funds before we start Stage 2 - And can confirm it on the OP"

So what do we wanna do?

Don't be surprised that he backed out on the deal. He does that a lot and even did that to me yesterday on a deal valued at over 9Kusd.

[Splatters]

Sampey will confirm once the payments have been made.
I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now, while this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
Halfway stage 2 or even maybe stage 3 the licences will be bought, but it's none of your businesses how much, and at what costs.
Like i said before, Sampey will confirm if and when the licenses are purchased.

This is not our agreements.
Last time we talk about 3 day
And you literally told me "you'll have the funds before we start Stage 2 - And can confirm it on the OP"

So what do we wanna do?

I have the funds available. But like you quoted, this project has other priorities at this particular moment.
If my primary project objectives have been completed, i'll gladly purchase the licenses we agreed on.
This is what i mean by "I feel publicly pressured to buy/pay them right now".

My point of view about this situation is simple, at the beginning seems like you and sampey have an agreement to buy a X n° of CAT licenses.
Probably your thought was to sell more during the stage 1 to be sure to stay in a positive position with the CAT price.
Stage 1 didn't go really good, so now you prefer to do not spend your BTC to buy those licenses. Am I right?
The problem now is simple, (I'm out from this speech because I've already bought during stage one), someone that is out and it's not sure if buy or not, it's waiting, as it was said before, to see that txi to sampey, that confirm that you've purchased some CAT copies. That txi is really important to give a trust to this project.
If people need to wait stage 3 or even the end of stage 3, probably they will wait that txi before get in.
If noting will happen, this project is in danger.

[tarmi]

Stage 1 didn't go really good, so now you prefer to do not spend your BTC to buy those licenses. Am I right?

While i'm holding enough private funds to purchase the licenses now, they are not my top priority.
I've send PM's with Sampey before BUILD got announced, and during, i've asked him if we could post his involvement to prepare the copies after payment.
And so we did, i even re-quoted it above. He has nothing to do with this project, our team or coin. He only prepares the licenses after the payment.

That txi is really important to give a trust to this project.
If people need to wait stage 3 or even the end of stage 3, probably they will wait that txi before get in.

People will get the TX and Sampey's confirmation and are not forced to buy BUILD.

TL;DR:

First making sure all running costs are covered before buying the licenses.
Do your own math for getting in during Stage 2-3, with or without the confirmations.

This coin's name is Coinbuilder, with added bonus of getting a C.A.T. license that was initially scheduled for March 2016.
So i make sure that BUILD will do what's promised, building coins as primary target.

If that means i have to delay the license purchase by one or two weeks, so be it.
Speak and think as you will, the C.A.T. licenses will be ready way before the end of Stage 3.

[Sampey]

Speak and think as you will, the C.A.T. licenses will be ready way before the end of Stage 3.

Not if i exit this project immediatedly.
and this is what i'm going to do if you won't respect what YOU told me.

No jokes with me man, you choose the wrong person. I'm the most fucking honest person of the world, and when you have an agreement with me you must respect it, this is the way i live (and i do the same with anyone, in my virtual and real life).

So, you choose, now : will you respect our agreement or not?

[LovSan]

lol ... reading all this.. reminds me of:

So blatantly obvious..

tarmy = bitspender going to bail out? So surprising, I'm shocked.

...

If people need to wait stage 3 or even the end of stage 3, probably they will wait that txi before get in.

I think you need to wait till end of stage 3 and when C-Cex release ICO funds, you know "this project has other priorities at this particular moment".

[Edkemper]

Speak and think as you will, the C.A.T. licenses will be ready way before the end of Stage 3.

Not if i exit this project immediatedly.
and this is what i'm going to do if you won't respect what YOU told me.

No jokes with me man, you choose the wrong person. I'm the most fucking honest person of the world, and when you have an agreement with me you must respect it, this is the way i live (and i do the same with anyone, in my virtual and real life).

So, you choose, now : will you respect our agreement or not?

man, what would you do if you now leave the agreement, but tarmi will come in one month asking you for those copies? and he will pay you of course..
I think the only one disappointed now are the people who want to see if the coin is legit or not.

[Sampey]

Speak and think as you will, the C.A.T. licenses will be ready way before the end of Stage 3.

Not if i exit this project immediatedly.
and this is what i'm going to do if you won't respect what YOU told me.

No jokes with me man, you choose the wrong person. I'm the most fucking honest person of the world, and when you have an agreement with me you must respect it, this is the way i live (and i do the same with anyone, in my virtual and real life).

So, you choose, now : will you respect our agreement or not?

man, what would you do if you now leave the agreement, but tarmi will come in one month asking you for those copies? and he will pay you of course..

I will ask him for the FULL Price of any copy. 0 Discount.
And without any partnership on this project.
I Will works as usually when i have to do with private customers.

I think the only one disappointed now are the people who want to see if the coin is legit or not.

This is a tarmi problem, not mine.

[Edkemper]

Speak and think as you will, the C.A.T. licenses will be ready way before the end of Stage 3.

Not if i exit this project immediatedly.
and this is what i'm going to do if you won't respect what YOU told me.

No jokes with me man, you choose the wrong person. I'm the most fucking honest person of the world, and when you have an agreement with me you must respect it, this is the way i live (and i do the same with anyone, in my virtual and real life).

So, you choose, now : will you respect our agreement or not?

man, what would you do if you now leave the agreement, but tarmi will come in one month asking you for those copies? and he will pay you of course..

I will ask him for the FULL Price of any copy. 0 Discount.
And without any partnership on this project.
I Will works as usually when i have to do with private customers.

I think the only one disappointed now are the people who want to see if the coin is legit or not.

This is a tarmi problem, not mine.

perfect, so at this point is better for him to pay now if he won't have any discount later

indeed it's a problem of tarmi

[Sampey]

The guarantees i'm asking for are guarantees for YOU, not for me.
If the agreements we have 3 days ago won't be respect i'm out of this project.
I won't be in any way responsible if something goes bad with this project i have nothing to do with.

[DeCrypterManiac]

lol ... reading all this.. reminds me of:

So blatantly obvious..

I wonder why those ICO's are still working...

[MedaR]

Now l believe,  old good premine  1% is future of alts...