Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now.

[GSpgh]

That proves absolutely nothing. Everything was transferred in the sale, meaning that the escrow could have been completed seamlessly.

That's a point i can't believe again. Who in their right mind would sell a forum account including wallet that maybe contains 10 bitcoins for 1 or 2 bitcoins? It's pathetic to believe that this could have happened. So stupid can nobody be. Especially not an escrow who is trained to sniff out potential scams.

No, beyond possible.

How can you not believe that people are that stupid? People overpay for coins on purse.io and others think that the super big discounts are legitimate. People buy miners for an amount of money that could buy more btc on the market than the miners could ever hope to mine before becoming obsolete. People think they can outsmart everyone in the entire section of the forum dedicated to ponzi schemes. There is a 92 page thread in the gambling section debating the merits of something that you learn doesn't work in the first day of statistics class. there are people who think that moving a miner across a warehouse and changing the address that the coins go to counts as shipping a product.

You can find someone stupider than someone who thinks they aren't a scammer or are somehow legitimate by selling those escrow coins to someone else to steal instead of stealing them himself on the 1st page of every subsection of this forum.

this need to be pinned at the top of every category in the forum

but then again it would probably just make more people think they're smarter than others...

[target]

he should at least have give all the funds to someone else before selling his account if he was that responsible. telling us that he sold his account doesn't save him.

[Vasu]

he should at least have give all the funds to someone else before selling his account if he was that responsible. telling us that he sold his account doesn't save him.

Man where did he come and tell he sold his account ? Did i missed somewhere ?

[Quickseller]

he should at least have give all the funds to someone else before selling his account if he was that responsible. telling us that he sold his account doesn't save him.

Man where did he come and tell he sold his account ? Did i missed somewhere ?

He claimed that he sold his account on the 3rd page of this thread, however more likely then not, that was a lie, potentially in an effort to prevent to have his dox released.

[subSTRATA]

he should at least have give all the funds to someone else before selling his account if he was that responsible. telling us that he sold his account doesn't save him.

Man where did he come and tell he sold his account ? Did i missed somewhere ?

He claimed that he sold his account on the 3rd page of this thread, however more likely then not, that was a lie, potentially in an effort to prevent to have his dox released.

that, and there were a few holes / inconsistencies in the story master-p told me in a conversation where he claimed to have sold the account. i ignored those giving the benefit of the doubt (not to say i didnt think about them), but after seeing something QS managed to dig up, theres a lot of evidence pointing towards an exit scam rather than an account sale.

[Tabata11]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

[james.lent]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him. 

[target]

he could have worked for someone from job sites if he needed money and not scam people here. i guess trading now is much difficult this time even when you have higher rank in the forum.

[Quickseller]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him. 

It would probably be a better idea to send a detective to his house rather then a swat team. As this would more likely result in charges actually being brought against him, and justice being served.

[james.lent]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him. 

It would probably be a better idea to send a detective to his house rather then a swat team. As this would more likely result in charges actually being brought against him, and justice being served.

That would only cost more, and things like these would take time. Sometimes its better to cause continuous disturbance, as then he'll have 2 choices which are :

a) move out

b) refund to prevent further disturbance to him and his family.

[errorcoin22]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him.  

It would probably be a better idea to send a detective to his house rather then a swat team. As this would more likely result in charges actually being brought against him, and justice being served.

You mean, hire a detective to chase after $2k? Never tried that myself, are they really that cheap?
Or do you mean like hire one of those detectives in China or India, where the wages are low, so they could track down Master-P in their own neck of the wood?

How about this: dress up in your fedora, order (bonus: on DNM) one of those detective kits with a plastic spy glass, a plastic gun, and a plastic "DETECTIVE" badge, and do the job yourself? I mean, about as real as everything else here, why break stylistic consistency? I'm sure Master-P the trusted escrow wouldn't mind/care/know the difference.

[GSpgh]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him. 

It would probably be a better idea to send a detective to his house rather then a swat team. As this would more likely result in charges actually being brought against him, and justice being served.

That would only cost more, and things like these would take time. Sometimes its better to cause continuous disturbance, as then he'll have 2 choices which are :

a) move out

b) refund to prevent further disturbance to him and his family.

harassing someone like that is likely to backfire so don't

is he's in the US or some other semi-civilized country file a police report and/or IC3 complaint... it's not that hard and can have more serious effect than a pizza

this sometimes works on ebay deadbeats so might work here too but obviously there needs to be some sort of evidence... forum PMs and blockchain TXs can be hard to explain

[Heutenamos]

One thing to learn for sure,what we call trusted DT members are not to be blindly trusted any more.

For what it's worth, my account won't ever be sold for any amount of money.

No such thing as a trusted escrow.

You are wrong, and I will be the one to prove it.

I wouldn't sell my account for 100BTC even... How someone could screw over the community after trying to help it is beyond me. If the account was sold or not doesn't really matter...the original Master-p is responsible in my opinion.

Agreed.  Selling your PGP key is never ok...  It is supposed to prove your identity.  Selling your account as an escrow provider is shady enough, selling your PGP key along with it is downright perpetrating fraud.

I can't believe I even need to state this, but I will never sell my PGP key, forum username, or my public Bitcoin address key.  I will also never act as an (assumed 3rd party) escrow for trades involving myself.  If I ever do any of these things, you can consider this contractual documentation that I will not press charges against anyone who finds me and punches me in the face.

Quoted for future reference (I hope not), can you PGP sign it? Id sign something similar, just because I applaud the notion.

I wouldn't sell my account for 100BTC even... How someone could screw over the community after trying to help it is beyond me. If the account was sold or not doesn't really matter...the original Master-p is responsible in my opinion.

That's exactly how i think too. If someone can do such a thing and sleep well with it, i don't get it. You have to know what will happen and you betray a lot of people then.

I wouldn't sell my account for 100BTC even... How someone could screw over the community after trying to help it is beyond me. If the account was sold or not doesn't really matter...the original Master-p is responsible in my opinion.

I completely agree. I would never sell my account either and mine is much less trusted than yours. But selling a PGP private key is beyond me. Of course master-P is fully responsible for this, regardless of the account sale being real or not.

quoted all .But does it matter's ? If the guy can do such a scammy thing then certainly he doesn't cares about his word or doesn't has any and the quote's are of none use then.

People are getting far too lax and demand everything be easy, and they want someone to promise them everything will be ok and to tuck them in. These things happen and instantly people demand more centralization and some overseer to fix the problem, but you are too blinded by your own compulsion for security to see that centralization is exactly what put you at risk in the first place. Take responsibility for your own trades and researching your trading partners. Build your own REAL trust lists, not based on +1's and -1's but on your knowledge of your trading partner and building your own real networks of trust, not just username profiles.

The best post in the thread.This is why i blamed Moderation in my very first post after he openly declared the sale.

[Quickseller]

What can I do with his doxed info? The amount I lost is ~$2,000. Will I be able to pursue anything legally?

Yeah you could. You could also send pizzas, and swat him. 

It would probably be a better idea to send a detective to his house rather then a swat team. As this would more likely result in charges actually being brought against him, and justice being served.

You mean, hire a detective to chase after $2k? Never tried that myself, are they really that cheap?
Or do you mean like hire one of those detectives in China or India, where the wages are low, so they could track down Master-P in their own neck of the wood?

How about this: dress up in your fedora, order (bonus: on DNM) one of those detective kits with a plastic spy glass, a plastic gun, and a plastic "DETECTIVE" badge, and do the job yourself? I mean, about as real as everything else here, why break stylistic consistency? I'm sure Master-P the trusted escrow wouldn't mind/care/know the difference.

Well the amount master-p appears to have stolen is most likely going to exceed the threshold of a felony in his jurisdiction so contacting his local police would likely warrant an investigation by law enforcement.

[Heutenamos]

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I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This may have already been answered somewhere, but what country is Master-P in?  Is he in the US? 

[Heutenamos]

This may have already been answered somewhere, but what country is Master-P in?  Is he in the US? 

He is probably in Canada .

[Laosai]

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

[Quickseller]

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I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

[james.lent]

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

Meh, i dont think it was sold mate. Look at the posts made, no changes in the context what so ever. New owner can't be that good in impersonating now can he?