Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now.

[Laosai]

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

[Quickseller]

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I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

[james.lent]

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

Meh, i dont think it was sold mate. Look at the posts made, no changes in the context what so ever. New owner can't be that good in impersonating now can he?  

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I would personally believe that master-p is not a scammer, and if he is saying that he needs 12 hours to release escrow because he is on a plane, then I would suggest that you wait half a day for your money, especially if it is because the other person is no longer responding (these situations take longer to release anyway because the escrow wants to be sure that the other person has not sent you the fiat).

I know that he was previously needing to download the blockchain so that may also contribute to delays in releasing escrows.

I have sent master-P a PM offering my assistance in creating transactions for him to sign/broadcast (and otherwise) so he can deal with his escrows in an orderly fashion.

With the above being said, it would probably be best to avoid using master-p as escrow until he can get his existing escrows resolved. 

omg the irony of this is making my teeth chatter.

[Falconer]

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I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

This cant be considered not scamming yet. If he keep on being silent and doesnt move the coins then does this means he is not guilty? He should atleast make a reply about what is going on that he doesnt yet come to solve this problem. This could turn into another maidak saga

[jeffersonairplane]

when maidak scammed did we get any replay from him?

[subSTRATA]

---snip---

I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

This cant be considered not scamming yet. If he keep on being silent and doesnt move the coins then does this means he is not guilty? He should atleast make a reply about what is going on that he doesnt yet come to solve this problem. This could turn into another maidak saga

unfortunately, i dont think he will. i know for a fact that the individual i spoke with was master-p, and him having told the now apparent lie about the account being sold is pretty indicative that he wants to cover something up / delay for as long as possible. if he was having problems and actually intended to resolve the issues, im fairly certain he would have said something. but fabricating a story of how he sold his account? pretty sure that money's good as gone. if tecshare's threats dont convince him to return the coins, nothing will.

when maidak scammed did we get any replay from him?

iirc he (maidak) just disappeared for a while with no contact, not like this case where he fabricated a lie as a cover up.

plus, im pretty sure that if he intended to resolve the issue, he wouldve commented on the matter after seeing his drastically altered trust score as of ~20 ish (give or take, i dont care enough) when he was last active.

[Laosai]

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

Meh, i dont think it was sold mate. Look at the posts made, no changes in the context what so ever. New owner can't be that good in impersonating now can he?  

So this isn't real: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13378692#msg13378692

[TECSHARE]

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I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

Most people don't know this, but any time you engage in any exchange of value, you are entering into a contract regardless of paperwork being signed. Of course the paperwork helps establish the parameters of the agreement making litigation much simpler, but that doesn't mean another form of agreement can't be demonstrated to have occurred in a court of law (ie verbal, informal, or otherwise).

[Heutenamos]

---snip---

I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

I believe that the claim that the master-p account was sold has been more or less disproven, so I don't think he can use that as an excuse.

Right now the funds have not moved and the master-p account has really not made any kind of statement, so technically at this point he has not yet scammed (although this will likely, IMO, change in the future). Once master-p has "officially" scammed/stolen money (I am not sure what exactly would cause this to trigger) then he can be charged with a crime.

His crime would most likely be something along the lines of obtaining money by false pretenses, and I do not think the law would see what master-p appears to be doing as him defaulting on debt obligations.

The reason why it is so unlikely that most newbie related scams are not going to be prosecuted is due to the fact that so little evidence is left behind on the newbie related scams, while these larger scams are going to have more evidence of both the crime, and of the identity of the person who committed the crime. Plus the fact that the amounts are much larger in this case verses most newbie scams, as law enforcement is likely not interested in devoting large amounts of resources investigating a $5 petty theft.

There are many newbie scams over 3-4 coins too.But there is nothing that could be done to him if he proves the account sale (which is a lie).Though he won't get a benefit of doubt here cause if he cannot prove himself innocent then the person signing the message with his identity would be himself.

There is no where written in the PGP message that he will be held responsible if he lost the coins due to wallet hack.

He is quite experienced and if he doesn't has any regret then i don't think the warning are going to make him repay.

---snip---

I don't see why people are believing that legal issue is going to help in any way. Account sales are allowed on the forum (they are discouraged) and if he proves it no one can do shit.This can also happen with newbie account's cause people are just trusting and no contracts are being signed and nothing legal is being done cause it again involves taxes and legal issues in order to promote the company or the signature here.

Many newbie scam's take place does it becomes a legal issue ? NO ,it's your trust which people abused.

This is global issue and none rules are applied.If a guy (like P) is managing multiple escrows and signaturing as well then he can easily make more than 6+ coins a month and 70+ coins a year but is he paying any taxes for that ? NO.There is nothing legal in the whole issue and there is no other way to get the funds back other than going to his home and kicking his ass.

Most people don't know this, but any time you engage in any exchange of value, you are entering into a contract regardless of paperwork being signed. Of course the paperwork helps establish the parameters of the agreement making litigation much simpler, but that doesn't mean another form of agreement can't be demonstrated to have occurred in a court of law (ie verbal, informal, or otherwise).

If you go legal then all the unregistered companies are going to face trouble and the whole forum is going to get fucked up if the case get's serious or if Interpol is involved. Where are the taxes ? where is the paper work that you are working/promoting some company ? how are you doing it without registering legally ? Bitcoin is shit complex and this way(of going legal) doesn't resolves anything.

[james.lent]

This was shocking as I've used master-P multiple times as escrow. Its hard now to trust a stranger on the internet.  

Since the account was bought, account selling discussion will be live again.

Meh, i dont think it was sold mate. Look at the posts made, no changes in the context what so ever. New owner can't be that good in impersonating now can he?  

So this isn't real: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13378692#msg13378692

Its him claiming to be him. There's no buyer or seller. Just an excuse claiming he sold his account

[MortonCharbo]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Comment: Signed by Bitcoin Armory v0.93.2

Hey bitcointalk, this is the "original" or previous owner of master-P account on these forums.

I had sold the account to an anonymous offer in August 2015. Along with my forum account, the keybase account "masterp" was also sold as the buyer wanted to continue to assume my identity and provide escrow.

The private keys to the wallets I used for escrow were also included in the sale so the new owner could continue providing escrow as I already had some transactions/campaigns taking place.

I am signing this message from an address I used to stake back in March, before I sold the account and was not included in the sale since the buyer would have no real use for it.

The address is 16Ag7a28TfKwUQiUKcQuvTxATJM5khmX5p

Posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg10821951#msg10821951

I don't think I can really do much to help, but just wanted to post this here since someone on my steam friend list informed me of this situation. I don't necessarily partake on these forums anymore, and don't intend to continue.

I apologize for selling my account, in hindsight I see how selfish of an act it was. But I was at an all time low and I didn't exactly have much time to keep participating and help escrow for these forums anymore. The amount of money I was offered for my "bitcointalk identity" was enough to help get me through a couple of really rough months.

Dec. 28, 2015
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I think what I put in bold kind of sums it all up.

[favdesu]

If this is true, he won't be the last escrow fraud here... until there are good blockchain solutions, I can recommend bitrated.

[Rmcdermott927]

If my memory servers me correctly, someone here on the forum wrote a script to compare typing patterns a few months back.   They may be able to shed some further light on the "my account was sold" theory.

[ranochigo]

If my memory servers me correctly, someone here on the forum wrote a script to compare typing patterns a few months back.   They may be able to shed some further light on the "my account was sold" theory.

Guess you meant this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171059.0.

It isn't too hard to change posting styles especially if it's sold.

[RayBrady]

I've been on JD chat and it doesn't seem to me that Masterp4 is the same person as Master-p on this forum. 

Fair enough. I don't know if I've ever read anything written by Master-p on this forum until today.

That would be: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=151920

[REAL-master-p]

Hi everyone, I am the REAL master-p.

MY ACCOUNT WAS NEVER SOLD.

It was hacked.

I seem to have gotten keylogged and have lost all my saved passwords including my accounts on bitcointalk, gmail, keybase, etc.

Right now I don't have access to my PGP key, my bitcointalk and gmail account, and my skype account which I seldom use.

I believe I got hacked on the 14th or 15th where I mistakenly downloaded something which may have caused the keylogger/malware to be installed.

I did not know it was a keylogger at the time and then shortly after that I went out of town. After the evenining of the 14th I no longer had constant access to the internet. When I did get wifi I tried to log in to bitcointalk but oddly found that my saved password wasn't working on my mobile. I assume that my mobile was not synced correctly to my desktop's saved password.

After getting back online and seeing all this it now makes sense. I am not currently at home, and I won't be for another week or so.

I can assume my private keys have been exposed as well since it seems like the hacker has gained control of my wallet on my desktop PC. Looks like the hacker may also have access to my steam account now but the password has not been changed as the steam guard has protected me on that front.

It is also safe to assume the hacker has been impersonating me via PMs, e-mail, and even Skype and now has pull off this terrible scam.

At this point is there anything I can do? I have remote access to my desktop. If there's any way for me to remedy this or to change my bitcoin wallet passwords please let me know.

Right now my computer is shut off, I guess a power outage happened but I can get it booted up remotely. I don't want to turn it on though as I assume the keylogger/hacker would gain immediate access to all my info again if he has not already.

Is there a way for me to safely change my wallet passwords without having to log in to my main PC where my Armory wallet is installed?

Guys I'm sorry this happened. I wish I had seen this sooner but I didn't have time to find wifi to sign on while I'm out of town.

I will check back here whenever I can for the next week or so but I can't guarantee any fast responses.

I looked up a few of the addresses and see the funds are not moved, including my tipping address where all the funds are still there. Is there a chance the hacker can't change my wallet password because my computer is turned off, thus unable to move the funds?

[jeffersonairplane]

Hi everyone, I am the REAL master-p.

MY ACCOUNT WAS NEVER SOLD.

It was hacked.

I seem to have gotten keylogged and have lost all my saved passwords including my accounts on bitcointalk, gmail, keybase, etc.

Right now I don't have access to my PGP key, my bitcointalk and gmail account, and my skype account which I seldom use.

I believe I got hacked on the 14th or 15th where I mistakenly downloaded something which may have caused the keylogger/malware to be installed.

I did not know it was a keylogger at the time and then shortly after that I went out of town. After the evenining of the 14th I no longer had constant access to the internet. When I did get wifi I tried to log in to bitcointalk but oddly found that my saved password wasn't working on my mobile. I assume that my mobile was not synced correctly to my desktop's saved password.

After getting back online and seeing all this it now makes sense. I am not currently at home, and I won't be for another week or so.

I can assume my private keys have been exposed as well since it seems like the hacker has gained control of my wallet on my desktop PC. Looks like the hacker may also have access to my steam account now but the password has not been changed as the steam guard has protected me on that front.

It is also safe to assume the hacker has been impersonating me via PMs, e-mail, and even Skype and now has pull off this terrible scam.

At this point is there anything I can do? I have remote access to my desktop. If there's any way for me to remedy this or to change my bitcoin wallet passwords please let me know.

Right now my computer is shut off, I guess a power outage happened but I can get it booted up remotely. I don't want to turn it on though as I assume the keylogger/hacker would gain immediate access to all my info again if he has not already.

Is there a way for me to safely change my wallet passwords without having to log in to my main PC where my Armory wallet is installed?

Guys I'm sorry this happened. I wish I had seen this sooner but I didn't have time to find wifi to sign on while I'm out of town.

I will check back here whenever I can for the next week or so but I can't guarantee any fast responses.

I looked up a few of the addresses and see the funds are not moved, including my tipping address where all the funds are still there. Is there a chance the hacker can't change my wallet password because my computer is turned off, thus unable to move the funds?

PROOF?

[james.lent]

Hi everyone, I am the REAL master-p.

MY ACCOUNT WAS NEVER SOLD.

It was hacked.

yadda yadda yadda....

oh come on, the hacker took your steam account and played games while making trades too huh ? seems legit ..

[Heutenamos]

Hi everyone, I am the REAL master-p.

MY ACCOUNT WAS NEVER SOLD.

It was hacked.

I seem to have gotten keylogged and have lost all my saved passwords including my accounts on bitcointalk, gmail, keybase, etc.

Right now I don't have access to my PGP key, my bitcointalk and gmail account, and my skype account which I seldom use.

I believe I got hacked on the 14th or 15th where I mistakenly downloaded something which may have caused the keylogger/malware to be installed.

I did not know it was a keylogger at the time and then shortly after that I went out of town. After the evenining of the 14th I no longer had constant access to the internet. When I did get wifi I tried to log in to bitcointalk but oddly found that my saved password wasn't working on my mobile. I assume that my mobile was not synced correctly to my desktop's saved password.

After getting back online and seeing all this it now makes sense. I am not currently at home, and I won't be for another week or so.

I can assume my private keys have been exposed as well since it seems like the hacker has gained control of my wallet on my desktop PC. Looks like the hacker may also have access to my steam account now but the password has not been changed as the steam guard has protected me on that front.

It is also safe to assume the hacker has been impersonating me via PMs, e-mail, and even Skype and now has pull off this terrible scam.

At this point is there anything I can do? I have remote access to my desktop. If there's any way for me to remedy this or to change my bitcoin wallet passwords please let me know.

Right now my computer is shut off, I guess a power outage happened but I can get it booted up remotely. I don't want to turn it on though as I assume the keylogger/hacker would gain immediate access to all my info again if he has not already.

Is there a way for me to safely change my wallet passwords without having to log in to my main PC where my Armory wallet is installed?

Guys I'm sorry this happened. I wish I had seen this sooner but I didn't have time to find wifi to sign on while I'm out of town.

I will check back here whenever I can for the next week or so but I can't guarantee any fast responses.

I looked up a few of the addresses and see the funds are not moved, including my tipping address where all the funds are still there. Is there a chance the hacker can't change my wallet password because my computer is turned off, thus unable to move the funds?

Hey you motherfucker why would the hacker ask yahoo to send the coins to your old tipping address ? and you motherfucker what took you 2-3 weeks to inform this ?