Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now.

[GSpgh]

What? What logic is there in that statement? Because the real Master-P guessed that the hacker didn't move the coins because he can't access them any longer, this some how proves he did it? Grow a brain first, then speculate. I am not taking him at his word, I am taking the most likely avenue for resolution for the victims.

feisty, aren't we today

the supposed hacker could not POSSIBLY know that Master-P doesn't have access to the wallet

it doesn't make any sense and has been pointed out by multiple posters already

also Master-P conveniently deleting all backups prior to the hack is also not something the supposed hacker could have planned for framing Master-P

there are a couple of other holes like not reporting the hack for two weeks while playing csgo for many hours

clearly your the one speculating here that someone framed Master-P when all facts point in the other direction

[mixan]

I really am beginning to hate this thread with a vengeance now. It is not entertaining but is getting annoying.
It is very time consuming and I don't know how Gleb could go thru it with a fine tooth comb to get the fact straight to make a desiecive conclusion.
But it is like a feistering wound that won't heal, you got to keep coming back to check up on it 

[SebastianJu]

tecshare, you're the one now creating drama for no reason

the hack story had been debunked already in two different ways - hacker not moving the coins, and hacker paying out sig campains - so your rant is off base

good luck trying to stop people from browsing Master-P's OWN POSTS which is where gleb's info is coming from

Ok smart guy. Then explain to me in detail how it is impossible for a hacker to fake this... I will wait. BTW, did you ever consider that Master-P was posting info he already anonymized? And who said I was trying to stop it? BTW way to skip over everything else and go for the one thing no one really knows for sure to argue with me about. A+. But I am the one starting drama right?

While it's always advantageous having something in the hand to push a probable scammer (doxx) i think a possible hacker would have no incentive to fake this. Why risk 12k USD only to frame master-P? You need a lot of hate or much money to do so when you want to take the coins anyway. On top, why lowering the amount of stolen bitcoins by paying out? Then if a hack happened, why wait 2 weeks.

I'm not sure yet if master-P finally dropped all connections now, i think you will release the doxx sooner or later anyway since this story is not the best.

[mixan]

tecshare, you're the one now creating drama for no reason

the hack story had been debunked already in two different ways - hacker not moving the coins, and hacker paying out sig campains - so your rant is off base

good luck trying to stop people from browsing Master-P's OWN POSTS which is where gleb's info is coming from

Ok smart guy. Then explain to me in detail how it is impossible for a hacker to fake this... I will wait. BTW, did you ever consider that Master-P was posting info he already anonymized? And who said I was trying to stop it? BTW way to skip over everything else and go for the one thing no one really knows for sure to argue with me about. A+. But I am the one starting drama right?

While it's always advantageous having something in the hand to push a probable scammer (doxx) i think a possible hacker would have no incentive to fake this. Why risk 12k USD only to frame master-P? You need a lot of hate or much money to do so when you want to take the coins anyway. On top, why lowering the amount of stolen bitcoins by paying out? Then if a hack happened, why wait 2 weeks.

I'm not sure yet if master-P finally dropped all connections now, i think you will release the doxx sooner or later anyway since this story is not the best.

I would think you would be very concerned about how this story plays out since you offer escrow services and the outcome of this could affect your business and how your clientele will view you in the future.

[GSpgh]

I must apologize to tecshare

this hacker is truly the most determined hacker ever

not only did the hacker pay sig campaigns, and left the coins in the wallet to frame master-P but also played csgo WITH THE EXACT SAME PATTERN FOR TWO WEEKS

bulletproof framing this is

Yes I can liquidate my steam inventories but that would take around a month before those funds are converted to BTC. Reason being my Steam accounts were "hacked" but luckily assets were not compromised thanks to SteamGuard. But unfortunately Steam locks my account from trading for 2 weeks after I changed the e-mail, password, and everything after I re-secured my Steam accounts. Once I am able to trade/sell I will be able to start liquidating. Then after that it will probably take another week or two before I can start converting the funds from steam wallet into BTC.

of course the nasty trolls would accuse master-P of stalling what with refusing to take the loan or to sell Steam inventory

[SebastianJu]

tecshare, you're the one now creating drama for no reason

the hack story had been debunked already in two different ways - hacker not moving the coins, and hacker paying out sig campains - so your rant is off base

good luck trying to stop people from browsing Master-P's OWN POSTS which is where gleb's info is coming from

Ok smart guy. Then explain to me in detail how it is impossible for a hacker to fake this... I will wait. BTW, did you ever consider that Master-P was posting info he already anonymized? And who said I was trying to stop it? BTW way to skip over everything else and go for the one thing no one really knows for sure to argue with me about. A+. But I am the one starting drama right?

While it's always advantageous having something in the hand to push a probable scammer (doxx) i think a possible hacker would have no incentive to fake this. Why risk 12k USD only to frame master-P? You need a lot of hate or much money to do so when you want to take the coins anyway. On top, why lowering the amount of stolen bitcoins by paying out? Then if a hack happened, why wait 2 weeks.

I'm not sure yet if master-P finally dropped all connections now, i think you will release the doxx sooner or later anyway since this story is not the best.

I would think you would be very concerned about how this story plays out since you offer escrow services and the outcome of this could affect your business and how your clientele will view you in the future.

Yes, that's why i i'm here. At this point i really believe there is no other explaination anymore than master-P scamming. It's unfortunate since i trusted him too. It's really hard to see on what things someone should or can base the trust one he gives another forum member. Scammers seem to be big actors. :/

[Gleb Gamow]

i was the one who originally messaged him about the issue, and he has removed me since this blew up. i also recall EAL (the mod) was on his friends list too under the steam ign EAL F. Skillz (profile home page, saw it by chance), but i dont see him on there anymore either. pretty likely he (master-p) has already purged his steam to completely cut off ties from the forum.

I was also on his steam friends list. He also removed me. Clearly he is trying to cut off ties from the forum.

Please, give MP a chance! Honestly, I believe the hacker removed you from MP's friend list, and P's in the process of reinstating you. That's what I believe.

[Gleb Gamow]

What can Gleb do?? Is he a hacker or something?

he's an NSFW googler

he can find all kinds of dirt and/or annoy someone pwns lying n00bz daily to the point of a public meltdown...

ftfy

Along with causing collateral damage to those not directly affiliated with scammers, e.g., TECSHARE's meltdown, the meltdown of cabinetmaker in Texas, and Curtis Green's meltdown, he being a mod for Silk Road about to get a TV movie contract till I exposed his ass. That's over and beyond Leroy Fodor and Marshall Long's meltdown. HAHAHA

[TECSHARE]

What? What logic is there in that statement? Because the real Master-P guessed that the hacker didn't move the coins because he can't access them any longer, this some how proves he did it? Grow a brain first, then speculate. I am not taking him at his word, I am taking the most likely avenue for resolution for the victims.

feisty, aren't we today

the supposed hacker could not POSSIBLY know that Master-P doesn't have access to the wallet

it doesn't make any sense and has been pointed out by multiple posters already

also Master-P conveniently deleting all backups prior to the hack is also not something the supposed hacker could have planned for framing Master-P

there are a couple of other holes like not reporting the hack for two weeks while playing csgo for many hours

clearly your the one speculating here that someone framed Master-P when all facts point in the other direction

Your right, how could a hacker know he already changed the wallet password? There is a difference between circumstantial evidence and direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence is not always reliable, but can be a good indicator. The problem is you are treating it like it is solid proof of something. It's not. BTW, this easily could just be about the perp covering his ass by making you all think you have the real perpetrator he set up as a patsy, allowing him to walk with no one even looking for him. Once again I will repeat myself. I don't believe Master-P, and IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FULL OF SHIT HE IS. He has been positively identified and he will be held liable for the lost funds no matter what. If the funds are actually returned is another matter. If he is harassed and prosecuted the chances of that happening go way down. So put your drama boner away for a few days and see what he does ok sherlock?  You will all get your pound of flesh. Let the actual victims try to recover some of their funds first before you bust your drama load all over the forum k?

P.S. Meltdown? Please. You give yourself too much credit.

[bitspill]

I'd like to clarify that liquidating a steam inventory is not easy.

In order to hinder scams and fraud Steam imposes several limits on accounts including daily/weekly/monthly/yearly trade l limits, holding trades in a pending state for days depending on value and if both parties have 2fa, locking all trades for weeks after a password change, etc. Any items sold in the Steam market which would be the easiest is then stuck in the form of Steam Wallet funds so he'd have to sell outside the market which would be difficult as who's likely to trade with him in this situation here?

[Gleb Gamow]

What? What logic is there in that statement? Because the real Master-P guessed that the hacker didn't move the coins because he can't access them any longer, this some how proves he did it? Grow a brain first, then speculate. I am not taking him at his word, I am taking the most likely avenue for resolution for the victims.

feisty, aren't we today

the supposed hacker could not POSSIBLY know that Master-P doesn't have access to the wallet

it doesn't make any sense and has been pointed out by multiple posters already

also Master-P conveniently deleting all backups prior to the hack is also not something the supposed hacker could have planned for framing Master-P

there are a couple of other holes like not reporting the hack for two weeks while playing csgo for many hours

clearly your the one speculating here that someone framed Master-P when all facts point in the other direction

Your right, how could a hacker know he already changed the wallet password? There is a difference between circumstantial evidence and direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence is not always reliable, but can be a good indicator. The problem is you are treating it like it is solid proof of something. It's not. BTW, this easily could just be about the perp covering his ass by making you all think you have the real perpetrator he set up as a patsy, allowing him to walk with no one even looking for him. Once again I will repeat myself. I don't believe Master-P, and IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FULL OF SHIT HE IS. He has been positively identified and he will be held liable for the lost funds no matter what. If the funds are actually returned is another matter. If he is harassed and prosecuted the chances of that happening go way down. So put your drama boner away for a few days and see what he does ok sherlock?  You will all get your pound of flesh. Let the actual victims try to recover some of their funds first before you bust your drama load all over the forum k?

P.S. Meltdown? Please. You give yourself too much credit.

Again, please enlighten us as to who master-P is, for I, among others, have yet to see the proof.

[minifrij]

Again, please enlighten us as to who master-P is, for I, among others, have yet to see the proof.

His identity has been confirmed by Blazed, and perhaps TECSHARE as well. While it has been in private, both of those are trusted members (though that doesn't really have much meaning).

[GSpgh]

What? What logic is there in that statement? Because the real Master-P guessed that the hacker didn't move the coins because he can't access them any longer, this some how proves he did it? Grow a brain first, then speculate. I am not taking him at his word, I am taking the most likely avenue for resolution for the victims.

feisty, aren't we today

the supposed hacker could not POSSIBLY know that Master-P doesn't have access to the wallet

it doesn't make any sense and has been pointed out by multiple posters already

also Master-P conveniently deleting all backups prior to the hack is also not something the supposed hacker could have planned for framing Master-P

there are a couple of other holes like not reporting the hack for two weeks while playing csgo for many hours

clearly your the one speculating here that someone framed Master-P when all facts point in the other direction

Your right, how could a hacker know he already changed the wallet password? There is a difference between circumstantial evidence and direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence is not always reliable, but can be a good indicator. The problem is you are treating it like it is solid proof of something. It's not. BTW, this easily could just be about the perp covering his ass by making you all think you have the real perpetrator he set up as a patsy, allowing him to walk with no one even looking for him. Once again I will repeat myself. I don't believe Master-P, and IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FULL OF SHIT HE IS. He has been positively identified and he will be held liable for the lost funds no matter what. If the funds are actually returned is another matter. If he is harassed and prosecuted the chances of that happening go way down. So put your drama boner away for a few days and see what he does ok sherlock?  You will all get your pound of flesh. Let the actual victims try to recover some of their funds first before you bust your drama load all over the forum k?

P.S. Meltdown? Please. You give yourself too much credit.

are you really that dense? how could a hacker know that master-P doesn't have a backup? how could a hacker know that master-P won't report the hack for two weeks? which part of this can possibly be "the perp covering his ass".

0.4 BTC per week

that's the whole drama for you, enjoy it for the next 50+ weeks

nice try making it sound that calling master-P out on his lies is somehow hindering victims chances when the scammer is laughing in your face

[The Sceptical Chymist]

What? What logic is there in that statement? Because the real Master-P guessed that the hacker didn't move the coins because he can't access them any longer, this some how proves he did it? Grow a brain first, then speculate. I am not taking him at his word, I am taking the most likely avenue for resolution for the victims.

feisty, aren't we today

the supposed hacker could not POSSIBLY know that Master-P doesn't have access to the wallet

it doesn't make any sense and has been pointed out by multiple posters already

also Master-P conveniently deleting all backups prior to the hack is also not something the supposed hacker could have planned for framing Master-P

there are a couple of other holes like not reporting the hack for two weeks while playing csgo for many hours

clearly your the one speculating here that someone framed Master-P when all facts point in the other direction

Your right, how could a hacker know he already changed the wallet password? There is a difference between circumstantial evidence and direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence is not always reliable, but can be a good indicator. The problem is you are treating it like it is solid proof of something. It's not. BTW, this easily could just be about the perp covering his ass by making you all think you have the real perpetrator he set up as a patsy, allowing him to walk with no one even looking for him. Once again I will repeat myself. I don't believe Master-P, and IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FULL OF SHIT HE IS. He has been positively identified and he will be held liable for the lost funds no matter what. If the funds are actually returned is another matter. If he is harassed and prosecuted the chances of that happening go way down. So put your drama boner away for a few days and see what he does ok sherlock?  You will all get your pound of flesh. Let the actual victims try to recover some of their funds first before you bust your drama load all over the forum k?

P.S. Meltdown? Please. You give yourself too much credit.

are you really that dense? how could a hacker know that master-P doesn't have a backup? how could a hacker know that master-P won't report the hack for two weeks? which part of this can possibly be "the perp covering his ass".

0.4 BTC per week

that's the whole drama for you, enjoy it for the next 50+ weeks

nice try making it sound that calling master-P out on his lies is somehow hindering victims chances when the scammer is laughing in your face

Yeah, that was my whole argument.  I don't see how calling BS is going to do anything to a scammer.  He's been here long enough to know this is a rough community and that he's going to be lambasted.  You need a thick skin up in here.

[GSpgh]

Yeah, that was my whole argument.  I don't see how calling BS is going to do anything to a scammer.  He's been here long enough to know this is a rough community and that he's going to be lambasted.  You need a thick skin up in here.

he said "fuck this community" a few times in this thread so to reciprocate is only fair

Fuck this community.

[mixan]

Yeah, that was my whole argument.  I don't see how calling BS is going to do anything to a scammer.  He's been here long enough to know this is a rough community and that he's going to be lambasted.  You need a thick skin up in here.

he said "fuck this community" a few times in this thread so to reciprocate is only fair

Fuck this community.

Well there you go. if that was the real one, I doubt it was, you have your answer on how this WHOLE situation is going to pan out.
Nothing is going to get settled dealing with this delinquent.

[TECSHARE]

are you really that dense? how could a hacker know that master-P doesn't have a backup? how could a hacker know that master-P won't report the hack for two weeks? which part of this can possibly be "the perp covering his ass".

0.4 BTC per week

that's the whole drama for you, enjoy it for the next 50+ weeks

nice try making it sound that calling master-P out on his lies is somehow hindering victims chances when the scammer is laughing in your face

What makes you think the money was the target? Maybe the actual target was Master-P or the forum. Maybe they were willing to risk it for the entertainment value of making you all cannibalize one of your most trusted members while they get away unnoticed. That sure sounds like hacker humor to me, but it doesn't matter. None of the crap you are spouting is of consequence to this situation.

I am not stopping anyone from "calling master-P out on his lies", I am asking uninvolved parties such as yourself to calm the fuck down and let the people actually involved try to work this out before you shit all over everything to get your compulsive fix. BTW watching some one make payments for 40 weeks sounds pretty boring, I don't how how much drama that counts for. Also the thief didn't take anything from me, I am freely volunteering my time to help the victims here, so what exactly does he have to laugh in my face about, and why should I give a fuck? I am trying to help the victims here get back what they can, and they can't do that if you jackals string him up first regardless of the validity of his claims.

P.S. I am not going to bother replying to you any more.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

are you really that dense? how could a hacker know that master-P doesn't have a backup? how could a hacker know that master-P won't report the hack for two weeks? which part of this can possibly be "the perp covering his ass".

0.4 BTC per week

that's the whole drama for you, enjoy it for the next 50+ weeks

nice try making it sound that calling master-P out on his lies is somehow hindering victims chances when the scammer is laughing in your face

What makes you think the money was the target? Maybe the actual target was Master-P or the forum. Maybe they were willing to risk it for the entertainment value of making you all cannibalize one of your most trusted members while they get away unnoticed. That sure sounds like hacker humor to me, but it doesn't matter. None of the crap you are spouting is of consequence to this situation.

I am not stopping anyone from "calling master-P out on his lies", I am asking uninvolved parties such as yourself to calm the fuck down and let the people actually involved try to work this out before you shit all over everything to get your compulsive fix. BTW watching some one make payments for 40 weeks sounds pretty boring, I don't how how much drama that counts for. Also the thief didn't take anything from me, I am freely volunteering my time to help the victims here, so what exactly does he have to laugh in my face about, and why should I give a fuck? The victims here get back what they can, and they can't do that if you jackals string him up first regardless of the validity of his claims.

P.S. I am not going to bother replying to you any more.

Lol I am in this for a very small amount, and it was collateral damage so to speak.  I donated 0.01 btc to Yahoo when he was soliciting funds, so I do have an interest in this.  I'm done raging against Master-P and I'm not expecting to get reimbursed for a few dollars.  As I said, I'm skeptical of his story and I think peon showed pretty good evidence for an intent to scam.

[TECSHARE]

Lol I am in this for a very small amount, and it was collateral damage so to speak.  I donated 0.01 btc to Yahoo when he was soliciting funds, so I do have an interest in this.  I'm done raging against Master-P and I'm not expecting to get reimbursed for a few dollars.  As I said, I'm skeptical of his story and I think peon showed pretty good evidence for an intent to scam.

It doesn't change anything. Even if you had video proof of him doing it with a signed confession statement I still wouldn't change my course of action because I believe it is the best avenue at this time for possible compensation of the victims. Lets for the sake of argument assume he did it all on purpose. If that is the case he fucked up, and fucked up BAD. He is going to need some time for it to sink in how royally fucked he is before he takes reasonable actions to resolve this, not to mention actually set it up logistically. If he doesn't the results will still be the same. I am hoping some one here with two brain cells to rub together can point this out because I am done explaining.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Lol I am in this for a very small amount, and it was collateral damage so to speak.  I donated 0.01 btc to Yahoo when he was soliciting funds, so I do have an interest in this.  I'm done raging against Master-P and I'm not expecting to get reimbursed for a few dollars.  As I said, I'm skeptical of his story and I think peon showed pretty good evidence for an intent to scam.

It doesn't change anything. Even if you had video proof of him doing it with a signed confession statement I still wouldn't change my course of action because I believe it is the best avenue at this time for possible compensation of the victims. Lets for the sake of argument assume he did it all on purpose. If that is the case he fucked up, and fucked up BAD. He is going to need some time for it to sink in how royally fucked he is before he takes reasonable actions to resolve this, not to mention actually set it up logistically. If he doesn't the results will still be the same. I am hoping some one here with two brain cells to rub together can point this out because I am done explaining.

Point taken and please note that I was not and am not criticizing any of your actions, sir.