Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now.

[dooglus]

I think the account was bought a few times latest was in August 2015 if I understand correctly.

I dont really know exact dates, I'm not sure anyone does.

It was last purchased in September 2014.

How could you possibly know that no sale of that account happened after September 2014?

Please don't present your guesses as facts. If you have evidence that a single person was in uninterrupted control of the account from September 2014 until December 2015 please present it. If you don't, please don't pretend that you do.

[nichlahghe5]

50 pages and still no dox?!?!
Is this dox ever going to fucking happen?

[vancefox]

50 pages and still no dox?!?!
Is this dox ever going to fucking happen?

I noticed, true or not, that the payout increased by ~ .4btc... so I'm wondering if this will turn into a ping pong tournament...

[GSpgh]

50 pages and still no dox?!?!
Is this dox ever going to fucking happen?

I noticed, true or not, that the payout increased by ~ .4btc... so I'm wondering if this will turn into a ping pong tournament...

i don't think it increased, master-scammer made two random payouts and promised to pay 0.4 BTC per week going forward

basically a no collateral no interest loan, pay as much as you want whenever you want - ain't bitcointalk great LOL

[Spoetnik]

So what is "THE" story he actually stated ? ..He was hacked ?

Let me guess his Hero account here used for escrow services had password 12345 ?
Hmm i wonder ?

I need to do some digging LOL

oh and -8179: -13 / +13 hahahahhaha

EDIT:
hmm he seems to know all about doing Bank deposits with using LBC in CANADA.
So far i am seeing he is Canadian..

EDIT2:
I see Gleb is already ahead of me LOL

[Gleb Gamow]

The ONLY other post in the thread was two days later with P declaring that he sold his Steam account, then locked the thread. I'd say that he was already positioning his exit strategy excuse beforehand knowing full well that he was going to steal the money in escrow around Christmas time, thus fucking everybody else's Christmas but his own.

'twas the h4x0r who posted that sale (according to master-scammer's timeline)

funny though how the hacker shares the same attitude towards signature campaigns

hacker:

Self moderated to prevent sig spammers. Signature spammers will have their posts reported and deleted accordingly.

the "real" master-P

Yeah, I've always been a dick to blatant signature spammers who post without anything valuable to add to the conversation.

And they're both in Toronto, have the same Steam account, and buy and sell domains and silver, and both have sold power supplies.

[Spoetnik]

ROLF'eeeezzz
Can't proper quote it's locked..
Hmm Horus gone and wanted to sell his chat mod job ? hmmmm ?

Re: [WTS] chat moderator account

   
Re: [WTS] chat moderator account
July 07, 2015, 02:40:53 AM

Quote from: master-P on July 05, 2015, 02:53:30 AM
Interested, please PM me more details if possible: the website and the income amount

Quote from: izanami on July 05, 2015, 03:21:18 AM
because you are escrow maybe I'll allow you to try to use that account
but remember if there is something strange on the account
I will give you negative trust Tongue okay ?

Quote from: monbux on July 05, 2015, 08:18:31 AM
Threatening with your negative trust already?  Roll Eyes lol
I'm interested in purchasing the account, as long as you can get the admin to confirm and allow the sale.
PM me with more info please.

Quote from: meadefreling on July 07, 2015, 02:40:53 AM
My interest for this account increase each time I see this your thread but have you posted to master-P to cross examine the account? Most of us here trust his judgement, I could buy it if certified safe.

[GSpgh]

So what is "THE" story he actually stated ? ..He was hacked ?

Let me guess his Hero account here used for escrow services had password 12345 ?
Hmm i wonder ?

I need to do some digging LOL

oh and -8179: -13 / +13 hahahahhaha

master-scammer's story: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13386925#msg13386925

basically he says someone from bitcointalk ("fuck this community" LOL) sent him a trojan, keylogged his passwords, used his bitcointalk account, his steam account, accessed his wallets etc.

the holes in his story are huge:

he didn't report the hack for two weeks
he paid out sig campaign payouts after the "hack" and after he went out of town without internet
he claims to have had no internet but was playing on steam
the "hacker" didn't move the coins for two weeks

there is probably more, those are just off the top of my head

[Spoetnik]

@GSpgh
Thanks for the link i can see his replies from that on page 17 onward.

One thing that i wonder is he said he was using Armory (i never tried that before)
So how did his private keys get compromised again ?

He also claims to have access to remote connect to his PC from out of town but he has shut it off already.
What The fuck ?
Why does he have a remote software program on his escrow PC in the first place ?
And what one ? ..name etc ?
That seems odd.

And he said he used his phone so this program would have to be a mobile phone + local PC app.
So what mobile phone app did he pre-install on his phone+PC before he left town ?
There is no remote app's that can be installed on your home PC remotely.
He would have had to of set that up before leaving town.
SO what mobile app does he claim to have used ?

And why would he go to the trouble of setting up a remote connection with his phone ahead of time
then not even use it for two weeks while out of town ?
He would have know when he left he had people waiting with deals etc
Or was his plan to simply make everyone wait as he disappeared for 2 weeks ?

Can he prove he has left town ?

NOTE: I noticed his password was changed on Dec. 17th on the seclog.php
Also that it says "Changed" ..not reset via email.

Code:

December 17, 2015, 06:55:10 AM - master-P - password changed

I wonder about his IP address activity here too.
Did he normally use a VPN or Proxy etc ?
If not then i am guessing theymos may have the ability to see a different IP for the logins.. maybe proving his case.

His replies raise a lot of questions.

I also wonder has he gone back home to access his PC locally yet ?
If so what keylogger did he find and how did he detect it ?

EDIT:
I have no doubt those Bitcoins would have been moved ASAP !
The fact he said he was hacked and they were not moved is fishy.
If i had hacked the guy.. i would have tried to get a trail obfuscated going to cover where they went.

[Spoetnik]

I've been watching this car crash develop with morbid interest (and popcorn).
I know Caveat Emptor and blahblah is the watchword of this forum, but it would be nice if Theymos and his inner circle would realize the threat to the basic credibility of the system by which BCT trading operates and swing into action in any way that they can, and share with us all some basic facts about the various master-p accounts from their analysis and data.

Like it or not, the ad hoc escrow system here is broken, despite the protestations of OgNasty and others who, although well intentioned, are defending the indefensible. There is no way, with account and key sales common and 'acceptable', that a long con escrow scam can ever be discounted.
What to replace it with?

Something along these lines deserves further thought

Is there any kind of service offering automated 2-of-3 multisig? That seems like the obvious way forward here. The company wanting to pay for forum signatures creates a campaign on the site, the forum users each sign up for that campaign. Everyone provides an address. The site makes a 2-of-3 address for each campaign participant, holds funds in escrow, but can't steal them.

Localbitcoins ?

[Quickseller]

I think the account was bought a few times latest was in August 2015 if I understand correctly.

I dont really know exact dates, I'm not sure anyone does.

It was last purchased in September 2014.

How could you possibly know that no sale of that account happened after September 2014?

Well I am Quickseller.

I actually posted evidence that debunked master-P's claim that his account was sold in August 2015. The question of if one person was in control of the master-P account since September 2014 is more or less a moot point provided that it can be established that one person was in control of the account since July 2015, although lets take a look.

Please don't present your guesses as facts. If you have evidence that a single person was in uninterrupted control of the account from September 2014 until December 2015 please present it. If you don't, please don't pretend that you do.

I agree with this 100%, anyone that slings mud around until something sticks is certainly untrustworthy in my book.

I sold the master-P account (when it had a trust score of 0/0) on September 15, 2014 to berserkerbarrage. On November 20, 2014, I had purchased another hero account from berserkerbarrage, and berserkerbarrage asked maidak (as escrow) to release the BTC for the account to 1NokuBVQEFCj6xh2R62EktJtQ4bGbExXGh which maidak did.

When master-P joined my signature campaign, he asked that I send his payment to 17Lizqx12cdV3vWkJh7GR9Tz3YrFkq4ao2 which is part of the same wallet as the 1Noku...Gh address. When he renewed his enrollment in my signature campaign on January 12, 2015, he asked me to send payment to 17Lizqx12cdV3vWkJh7GR9Tz3YrFkq4ao2 which is part of the same wallet. This establishes that the same person controlled the master-P account from September 15, 2014 until January 12, 2015

master-P posted that his (steam) nickname is "MF Jones" on December 12, 2014, which is the same nickname in the screenshots posted here, on October 23, 2015 and is the same nickname that multiple people have for him. Additionally this nickname is the same one that someone contacted master-P on to let him know about this thread. This piece of evidence proves that the same person was in control of the account on December 12, 2014 through October 23, 2015*.

*It was claimed that some deals were sent from the new owner of master-P to the MF Jones steam account, however the claim that master-P was sold in August is further debunked below.

On June 7, 2015, I had used master-P's escrow services, and the roughly 0.023BTC that was to be used as a tip was sent to 14PUWBwK854GLenxSa7MAuxXQUXK4DKKi5 via 31bbf562ac786f8fc5bbf466ef06226b26443a0a0d5f4bfd2e4cb2b3e09f5bf0. According to yahoo62278's scam accusation, yahoo62278 was asked to (and did) send 1.5BTC to the same address above, and sent it via b0833df15299853f26baac9d33aa2b466e165a99df3f772db6dfba6d5605e7b0 on December 24, 2015. This means that the same person I was dealing with in June 2015 is the same person who stole 1.5BTC from yahoo62278 on xmas eve. This piece of evidence proves that the same person controlled the master-P account on June 7, 2015 as who controlled it on December 24, 2015.

According to the security log, the master-P account's password has not changed since December 24, 2015 which shows that the same person controlled it from December 24, 2015 to present.

If you put all of these pieces together, then there is evidence to show that the same person controlled the master-P account between September 15, 2014 and today.

[Spoetnik]

Hello everyone ,
I'm the second owner of master-p account, my account was hacked by the original owner and now he is trying to find an excuse not to be doxxed.

Spoetnik,is that you ? No ? Must be Gleb then ? Or worst case scenario Quickseller.

Not me.. i never have nor will i make / use another account here past or present or future.
I doubt the other 2 guys did that either.. it's just not their style.

[Spoetnik]

@Quickseller
look at the seclog ?
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

December 17, 2015, 06:55:10 AM - master-P - password changed

The only reference i see in the whole list for that name..

That is a different date than what you just said..i am confused now LOL

[Quickseller]

@Quickseller
look at the seclog ?
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

December 17, 2015, 06:55:10 AM - master-P - password changed

The only reference i see in the whole list for that name..

That is a different date than what you just said..i am confused now LOL

There is evidence that the same person controlled master-P on Dec 24 as controlled it in June 2015. The change on Dec 17, 2015 was master-P changing his PW for some reason other then to sell his account.

[GSpgh]

On June 7, 2015, I had used master-P's escrow services, and the roughly 0.023BTC that was to be used as a tip was sent to 14PUWBwK854GLenxSa7MAuxXQUXK4DKKi5 via 31bbf562ac786f8fc5bbf466ef06226b26443a0a0d5f4bfd2e4cb2b3e09f5bf0. According to yahoo62278's scam accusation, yahoo62278 was asked to (and did) send 1.5BTC to the same address above, and sent it via b0833df15299853f26baac9d33aa2b466e165a99df3f772db6dfba6d5605e7b0 on December 24, 2015. This means that the same person I was dealing with in June 2015 is the same person who stole 1.5BTC from yahoo62278 on xmas eve. This piece of evidence proves that the same person controlled the master-P account on June 7, 2015 as who controlled it on December 24, 2015.

well to any sane person it's been obvious long ago that master-p is lying but...

according to master-p/tecshare this would only prove you both dealt with a person who gave you that address at that point in time but not necesarily the SAME person, and not necesarily the person(s) who had CONTROL [edit: meaning exclusive control] of the address

because "hacker" is "framing" master-p

not sure how anyone can disprove that

[Spoetnik]

@Quickseller
look at the seclog ?
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

December 17, 2015, 06:55:10 AM - master-P - password changed

The only reference i see in the whole list for that name..

That is a different date than what you just said..i am confused now LOL

There is evidence that the same person controlled master-P on Dec 24 as controlled it in June 2015. The change on Dec 17, 2015 was master-P changing his PW for some reason other then to sell his account.

Running with that i would assume then the DEC 17th change was to prove he was hacked etc.
He had to plan this out.. if i did i would change the password then say "i wuz hacked" after..
Saying, oh look proof.. see ?

[smoothie]

I left negative trust.

Will remove if enough evidence comes to light (or action of Master-P) that proves they are not a scammer.

[Gleb Gamow]

Take a look at this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220478.msg12799191#msg12799191

The OP is also from Canada. Also likes knives: http://www-origin.twitch.tv/truhaxorus/profile

[grtthegreat]

I left negative trust.

Will remove if enough evidence comes to light (or action of Master-P) that proves they are not a scammer.

So you are saying that you would never remove the negative trust.

[Quickseller]

On June 7, 2015, I had used master-P's escrow services, and the roughly 0.023BTC that was to be used as a tip was sent to 14PUWBwK854GLenxSa7MAuxXQUXK4DKKi5 via 31bbf562ac786f8fc5bbf466ef06226b26443a0a0d5f4bfd2e4cb2b3e09f5bf0. According to yahoo62278's scam accusation, yahoo62278 was asked to (and did) send 1.5BTC to the same address above, and sent it via b0833df15299853f26baac9d33aa2b466e165a99df3f772db6dfba6d5605e7b0 on December 24, 2015. This means that the same person I was dealing with in June 2015 is the same person who stole 1.5BTC from yahoo62278 on xmas eve. This piece of evidence proves that the same person controlled the master-P account on June 7, 2015 as who controlled it on December 24, 2015.

well to any sane person it's been obvious long ago that master-p is lying but...

according to master-p/tecshare this would only prove you both dealt with a person who gave you that address at that point in time but not necesarily the SAME person, and not necesarily the person(s) who had CONTROL [edit: meaning exclusive control] of the address

because "hacker" is "framing" master-p

not sure how anyone can disprove that

tecshare is crazy. Why would someone go on a hacking spree, tell someone to send money to an address that multiple people have access to, wait days and then send that same money to bitstamp? It also appears that master-P's tipping address is spendlinked to some of the addresses that he had his victims send money to......why would a hacker have people send money to a fresh address that master-p has access to?