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Author Topic: Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now.  (Read 80675 times)
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January 16, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
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Maybe do a little research YOURSELF on the person you are trusting with your money. (I know, crazy talk)

Thats's not as safe as you let it sound. Even i believed master-P being a honest escrow because i saw honest behaviour from him. Something that let me believe that he has a good character. And I have to deal with many scammers as escrow. They simply are pretty good actors often enough.

The only way to be pretty sure about the character of an online character is when he had the chance to get rich by stealing but didn't do it. For example dooglus. He held, i believe, coins worth $60 Million. He never would get a bigger chance to steal but he paid it back. I think there is no better proof of character than that. And it's highly likely that such a responsible person would not sell his account.

The solution has been around for ages but it seems NOT A SINGLE TRUSTED ESCROW is pushing multi-sig.
Its always "You can trust this one or that one or ME with YOUR money" not a one pushing multi-sig. You just need to ask yourself why.

The reality is that out of hundreds of trades maybe one person asks if you offer multisig. And even then, what multisig will you use? 2 of 3? Then can you be sure that the seller is not the same as the escrow? You still can be scammed pretty easy.

The only safer option that was suggested by grtthegreat lately is 4of 5 or so. Where three trusted escrows are involved. It's very unlikely that all of these escrows would be scammer.

But again... who has the knowledge to handle multisig? I think that this is too complicated for the average user and most would want to use the classic way of escrow anyway.

Escrow should never be used unless for small amounts and the end result should ALWAYS be helping to teach noobs how to use multi-sig.
If your escrow is not teaching you about, and how to use multi-sig, you should find another escrow.
Its YOUR Money. and with a little extra work, you get to stay in control of it.(if you figured out how to use bitcoin, you can figure out multi-sig too)

Esp. if you are looking for "free" escrow - Why would anyone do free work unless there was a payout at the end of the rainbow.
The only Free service I offer requires YOU to do all the work. I would only get involved when arbitration is needed.

Well, only because you can't imagine helping others for free once in a while doesn't mean you can judge all escrows that offer free escrow with your mindset. In fact free means that you can get tips and in my opinion the tips often enough are higher than those escrows receive that demand a fixed fee. Because they can show their appreciation of your service that way. And it's more pleasing for the escrow when he sees a user was happy with what you did. Smiley

In fact, I wouldn't even know you used my service unless I'm contacted for arbitration.

You finally found a moneys that you are completely in control of.
When you hand this money over freely to a stranger, it is NO LONGER YOUR MONEY.
Stay in control, use 2-3 multi-sig with a trusted arbitrator.

Ah i see, your stressing about how bad all escrows are is in fact an advertising for your service. Well, ok.

But yes, i think multisig generally is more safe, only the users seems to be not ready yet. I hope you made sure with your service that the private keys of the clients are not possibly be seen by your website. Otherwise people would risk that you could forward the coins yourself. In fact it can't be made sure that your website is not altered at one point in time so that you control the coins in fact. Be it by you or by a hacker. I only speak about potential risks, no accusation of course. There simply is no 100% safety.

And do your own research.   ......or buy a big box of tissues.

The choice is yours.

...And yes, I am going to put out there that I have been doing "FREE Escrow" in bitcoin-OTC for many years.

But if you did your research, you would already know that.

Does they have their own escrow functionality or do you offer it through a website of yours? Anyway, regardless how it would be, there always would be the chance of "i was hacked". Or can you give a reason why that is impossible? I admit i did not have the time to check you out so maybe there is some way iam not aware of yet.

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January 16, 2016, 05:16:31 PM
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The only way to be pretty sure about the character of an online character is when he had the chance to get rich by stealing but didn't do it. For example dooglus. He held, i believe, coins worth $60 Million. He never would get a bigger chance to steal but he paid it back. I think there is no better proof of character than that. And it's highly likely that such a responsible person would not sell his account.

I think there were a few of us that did 700 bitcoins at one time, for about 10,000 chips.

Ju!, stop feeding the trolls. hehe.

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January 17, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
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The only way to be pretty sure about the character of an online character is when he had the chance to get rich by stealing but didn't do it. For example dooglus. He held, i believe, coins worth $60 Million. He never would get a bigger chance to steal but he paid it back. I think there is no better proof of character than that. And it's highly likely that such a responsible person would not sell his account.

I think there were a few of us that did 700 bitcoins at one time, for about 10,000 chips.

Ju!, stop feeding the trolls. hehe.

Guess i sometimes can't know for sure if someone is serious or only trolling since there are real people on the forum with really weird views on things. And unfortunately they are no trolls.

Yeah thinking about the big "IF's" of investment actions of the past only brings up crazy feelings. It might be better not to think about these times too often. Cheesy

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January 17, 2016, 10:53:58 PM
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If he really was in financial problems why don't just ask for a loan?<snip>
Well if the problems were great enough he wouldn't have means to pay back, right?  So scamming becomes a viable option in that case.  But it looks for all intents and purposes that Master-P took out an interest-free loan from unwilling lenders.  I still can't figure out a good narrative for what happened here.  He's obviously paying the bitcoin back, albeit slowly, so he has it and has not spent it.  Maybe because he got scared?  I just shake my head at this.

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January 17, 2016, 11:10:22 PM
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If he really was in financial problems why don't just ask for a loan?<snip>
Well if the problems were great enough he wouldn't have means to pay back, right?  So scamming becomes a viable option in that case.  But it looks for all intents and purposes that Master-P took out an interest-free loan from unwilling lenders.  I still can't figure out a good narrative for what happened here.  He's obviously paying the bitcoin back, albeit slowly, so he has it and has not spent it.  Maybe because he got scared?  I just shake my head at this.

He did get scared (larger payouts started only after the doxing threats) and he hasn't paid all of it back yet. So far there is no indication of this being anything other than a scam that turned sour, and he's still trying to drag this out. Perhaps hoping that some victims won't be able to sign a message for TECSHARE and get the dox.

I would also suspect that this is not his only scam so he might be inclined to pay 100% back to avoid further digging in his past.

Just my speculation of course.
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January 17, 2016, 11:14:03 PM
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I have seen evidence he has been involved in multiple scams in the past, several of which were perpetrated here. He really doesn't want his dox public, even if he is too stupid to know it.
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January 18, 2016, 01:44:34 AM
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If he really was in financial problems why don't just ask for a loan?<snip>
Well if the problems were great enough he wouldn't have means to pay back, right?  So scamming becomes a viable option in that case.  But it looks for all intents and purposes that Master-P took out an interest-free loan from unwilling lenders.  I still can't figure out a good narrative for what happened here.  He's obviously paying the bitcoin back, albeit slowly, so he has it and has not spent it.  Maybe because he got scared?  I just shake my head at this.

He did get scared (larger payouts started only after the doxing threats) and he hasn't paid all of it back yet. So far there is no indication of this being anything other than a scam that turned sour, and he's still trying to drag this out. Perhaps hoping that some victims won't be able to sign a message for TECSHARE and get the dox.

I would also suspect that this is not his only scam so he might be inclined to pay 100% back to avoid further digging in his past.

Just my speculation of course.

Makes a lot of sense to me and i keep popping by to see how he's doing paying people back.
If he's waiting fro people to forget and wander off it's not happening.

This case is a precedent setting incident and may affect things later.. 2 cents

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January 18, 2016, 01:26:13 PM
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I have seen evidence he has been involved in multiple scams in the past, several of which were perpetrated here. He really doesn't want his dox public, even if he is too stupid to know it.

Which basically means he is a scammer and he never got hacked or anything like that and he obviously didn't have financial problems, he just wanted to scam and then started with the bullshit excuses but at least he is paying back. Ruining your reputation for nothing, what a fool.
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January 18, 2016, 08:48:40 PM
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I have seen evidence he has been involved in multiple scams in the past, several of which were perpetrated here. He really doesn't want his dox public, even if he is too stupid to know it.

Which basically means he is a scammer and he never got hacked or anything like that and he obviously didn't have financial problems, he just wanted to scam and then started with the bullshit excuses but at least he is paying back. Ruining your reputation for nothing, what a fool.
Yah, a fool.  And why hasn't his dox been dumped yet?  Seems like now would be the right time.

If the original Backside walkaround can prove to me they are the old owner of this account, I can update the email address to the email address of their choosing.
Backside walkaround has lost access to their account as they used someone else's email address to sign up, and the owner of the email address got tired of random email notifications from this site after a few months and reset the password.
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January 18, 2016, 09:20:17 PM
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I have seen evidence he has been involved in multiple scams in the past, several of which were perpetrated here. He really doesn't want his dox public, even if he is too stupid to know it.

Which basically means he is a scammer and he never got hacked or anything like that and he obviously didn't have financial problems, he just wanted to scam and then started with the bullshit excuses but at least he is paying back. Ruining your reputation for nothing, what a fool.
Yah, a fool.  And why hasn't his dox been dumped yet?  Seems like now would be the right time.

I messaged the acct that has been offline for a few days. He has about 23 hours left to at least communicate and if nothing i dump the dox to the public. Im trying to be fair and give him a chance to respond before i make everything public and talk to the authorities

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January 18, 2016, 09:27:14 PM
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This thread has not been resolved yet  Shocked
I was here since the beginning of the masterp scandal but have not looked at the thread for 2 weeks.
He was going to pay everybody back one by one. I guess he ran out of funds to accomplish that task.
I can not go thru 66 pages plus to figure out what happened(I think I stopped at page 40). Is there a cliff notes type thread. Or is someone waiting until this saga is done to write a novel about it?

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January 18, 2016, 09:35:59 PM
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This thread has not been resolved yet  Shocked
I was here since the beginning of the masterp scandal but have not looked at the thread for 2 weeks.
He was going to pay everybody back one by one. I guess he ran out of funds to accomplish that task.
I can not go thru 66 pages plus to figure out what happened(I think I stopped at page 40). Is there a cliff notes type thread. Or is someone waiting until this saga is done to write a novel about it?

Master-P scammed ~24 BTC, returned ~half of it, stopped responding. Hardly enough for a paragraph let alone a novel.
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This thread has not been resolved yet  Shocked
I was here since the beginning of the masterp scandal but have not looked at the thread for 2 weeks.
He was going to pay everybody back one by one. I guess he ran out of funds to accomplish that task.
I can not go thru 66 pages plus to figure out what happened(I think I stopped at page 40). Is there a cliff notes type thread. Or is someone waiting until this saga is done to write a novel about it?

Master-P scammed ~24 BTC, returned ~half of it, stopped responding. Hardly enough for a paragraph let alone a novel.
I'd say. Thanks for the short but brief run down. If it goes onto 100 pages here I would think there is more to this then what is showing just on the few threads created. This story seems to be far from over and I think Gleb gave up on this one since masterp has already payout out half of what was owed.

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January 18, 2016, 10:04:29 PM
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Does anyone have a TL;DR version of this thread and the few others? Been away for awhile.

I still can't figure out why he was trusted with so many BTCs in the first place :\
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January 18, 2016, 10:13:45 PM
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Does anyone have a TL;DR version of this thread and the few others? Been away for awhile.

I still can't figure out why he was trusted with so many BTCs in the first place :\

He was a great actor, acting honest and was trusted by many because of that. Unfortunately it seems it was an act only. :/

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I am tired of this bullshit. You got your warnings as well as plenty of time to follow through on repayments. Sorry you are too dumb to know better Eric. Have fun being harassed until you go to Canukistani prison.

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-Steam account ID: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197994994008/
-Email: 170forceshielder@live.com

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January 18, 2016, 10:18:57 PM
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Does anyone have a TL;DR version of this thread and the few others? Been away for awhile.

I still can't figure out why he was trusted with so many BTCs in the first place :\
Master-P has a large number of alts, used those alts to trade with others, mostly buying BTC using master-P as escrow.

someone who was able to sign a message with one of master-p's addresses claimed that his account was sold ~2 months ago and included in the sale was his private keys to his GPG key and all BTC addresses

Not long after the above person appeared, someone claiming to be the "real master-P" who also signed a message from one of master-P's btc addresses claimed that he had been hacked a few weeks ago, claimed that whoever hacked him was having people send BTC to master-P's various addresses (even previously unused ones). This person claims to not have proper backups and that the "hacker" changed the encryption password to his wallet, preventing him from accessing the BTC he held. Since then it has been determined that master-P's dox is known by a few people and this has been used to get master-P to slowly repay a portion of the BTC that he stole from others. The hacker sent the BTC contained in master-P's wallet to a bitstamp address several days after it was claimed that master-P's wallet was hacked
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January 18, 2016, 10:21:04 PM
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I am tired of this bullshit. You got your warnings as well as plenty of time to follow through on repayments. Sorry you are too dumb to know better Eric. Have fun being harassed until you go to Canukistani prison.

Eric Charn Hung Lew AKA komodovpn.

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-Son of Kwon Kwong Lew, and Susanna Lew.
-Has a Bachelor of Arts degree in accounting in the University of York
-Lives at the same address as parents, with phone number 1-416-768-3232.
-Steam account ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/mfjonezxz
-Email: 170forceshielder@live.com

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wow that is a lot of information!

Hopefully some of his victims can use this legally to recover what was stolen from them

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January 18, 2016, 10:23:17 PM
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I am tired of this bullshit. You got your warnings as well as plenty of time to follow through on repayments. Sorry you are too dumb to know better Eric. Have fun being harassed until you go to Canukistani prison.

Eric Charn Hung Lew AKA komodovpn.

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landline 1-905-841-9745.

-Son of Kwon Kwong Lew, and Susanna Lew.
-Has a Bachelor of Arts degree in accounting in the University of York
-Lives at the same address as parents, with phone number 1-416-768-3232.
-Steam account ID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/mfjonezxz
-Email: 170forceshielder@live.com

Related info.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1374482

Awaitable that this would happen. I'm sure you feel way better now having the pressure going away from your shoulders. Smiley

Really stupid of him.

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http://www.yatedo.com/p/Eric+Charn+Hung+Lew/normal/7f46c8508c874cb5748a5960f9d33710

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