Liberty Payout ($1000)

[furrycoat]

Liberty Payout is in for a lot of trouble. Me and Paroxsitic have contacted the FBI's Bureu of Internet Crime and filed a police report. Bitcoin OTC was kind enough to give us the offenders personal IP address. New Jersey, the home state of Liberty Payout happens to have some of the strictest laws in the country regarding internet fraud/crime. After the Bureu reviews the evidence they will be contacting websites used by the offender to get his exact location. Me and paroxistic have been speaking over the phone almost all day working this out, contacting agencies, getting evidence etc. I realize people rarely go to prison over Bitcoin scams but thats only because the victims dont know who to contact and they are never reported. My brother who is a internet defense attorney gave us all the places we need to contact to get this thing rolling. The only bad part about this whole scenario is that me and paroxistic will probably end up spending more in court fee's then we lost. Neverthless, once this is finished it will be one less scumbag scammer lurking these forums. Wish us luck!

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[Stephen Gornick]

getting evidence etc.

I see a transaction in the #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust (WoT) using Xoom.

LRP   2012-11-23 18:34:59   1   Bought BTC from me via Xoom.

 - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=LRP

That will help provide identity (or lead to more info if further details are needed).

[seisatsu]

Unfortunately, I trusted this guy because of his few good ratings (he was using the name LRP at the time, which it turns out is one of many names he uses.) I was new to #bitcoin-otc, and like a complete moron I sent him 73 bitcoins, almost $1000 worth. Should have held out for someone with a better rating.

The Transaction (blockchain.info)

Two days later he starts getting all these bad ratings. He'll probably come back under a new name.

#bitcoin-otc Nick History

You can see his history of names there. Looks like he's too stupid to change his IP address between nick changes, leaving a lot of potentially useful history.

He claimed on Monday he would be sending the money as cash-in-the-mail to my PO box on Tuesday (yesterday). Still hoping this is all some big misunderstanding and my cash will show up, though very unlikely at this point.

[Stephen Gornick]

Two days later he starts getting all these bad ratings. He'll probably come back under a new name.

#bitcoin-otc Nick History

You can see his history of names there. Looks like he's too stupid to change his IP address between nick changes, leaving a lot of potentially useful history.

Oh wow.  That's one of those impersonation attempts.  (using a slight variation of a nick of a user with a good trust history).

2012-12-16 23:03:37 CST    1355720617    JOIN     Azelphur_ [otc]   #bitcoin‑otc

[furrycoat]

Jeez he sure did cash out. So he made at least 2500$ off scams who knows how much more we dont know about. What a scumbag, I gave him a bitcoin for his "help" before he ripped me off of 500$.

[finkleshnorts]

see here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85381.0

[John (John K.)]

Any updates on this issue? Is the Unsure part removable now?

[TheButterZone]

This is really weird.

#12373 Mon Dec 17 18:25:12 2012 LRP BUY 73.0 btc @ 12.826 Cash (in mail- Seisatsu)

[paroxsitic]

I have switched the topic to confirmed, albeit I know this means I might not ever get paid by him now unless I involve help, which I plan to do.

He has used the nick Azelphur_ trying to impersonate Azelphur, oddly enough someone he actually did a transaction on XOOM with (source: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=LRP)

Thus hopefully Azelphur can let me know any identifying information and I can bring him to justice. I know with great certainty his IP is 76.124.34.93 which indicates he is from the Philadelphia/new jersey area as the IP is a comcast IP from a NJ headquarter, and some results indicate PA or NJ from records. He has also indicated he lives in Philadelphia.

I have already contacted comcast but haven't got a reply but I think if I get a court order I can get his information from Comcast, or at least MtGox. MtGox has told me they will give me the details of his account if I got a court order as well.

It would make the court/police proceedings much easier if I just had a name and address to go with, instead of an IP address and internet handle, so hopefully one of his previous customers will raise up and let us know any information so we can proceed to get our money back.

[Azelphur]

He was impersonating me? friendly.

Anyway, I keep getting messages from people asking me to identify him (at least 5 now) so I'd just like to make this clear
Xoom anonymizes transactions, I have no information to give, sorry!

[Jimmysmith]

okay, this user, his name is Kirch123 on exchangemoneyforum.com. His name is also Joshua Murphy. His updated yahoo is verizon4824. i linked his ip and everything together

[paroxsitic]

okay, this user, his name is Kirch123 on exchangemoneyforum.com. His name is also Joshua Murphy. His updated yahoo is verizon4824. i linked his ip and everything together

I will confirm with the forums owner, I have already noticed he had registered on it with "Liberty Payout" in the past and already sent an email a few hours ago. I also asked anyone who has ever had him on skype to let me know his skype too.

Edit:

Seems your information is wrong.

http://exchangemoneyforum.com/showthread.php/135359-Need-Buy-Moneypak-URGENT

Here is Kirch123 calling out someone with the verizon4824 yahoo name.

Also Kirch123 is involved with this thread: http://exchangemoneyforum.com/showthread.php/135967-Selling-Moneypak-with-receipts-and-without
In which an associate of Liberty Payout "moneypak" is trying to sell MP and Kirch123 is wary, and then later Liberty vouches for him, saying he made an account for moneypak just to vouch from him.  Then Kirch123 doubts Liberty Payouts vouch : http://cl.ly/image/0M370j3P0m30. If they were the same person why would he do that?  Later on though "Liberty Payout" calls moneypak a scammer on bitcointalk. None the less I added moneypak's skype to see if he will give up any information on Liberty Payout

Furthermore, Joshua Murphy seems to be : http://www.facebook.com/Joshuam319  which indicates he lives in North Carolina according to a lot of sites, thus cannot be Liberty Payout as he lives in the PA/NJ area.

[paroxsitic]

Jimmysmith isn't who he says he is:

http://cl.ly/image/2V2R3F0m0V0D
http://cl.ly/image/2e2j3I3e1h17
http://cl.ly/image/2s1N1J2v3Y2Z

He is saying he is zapsoda on bitcoin-otc but the verified zapsoda denies that's him.

[fbastage]

okay, this user, his name is Kirch123 on exchangemoneyforum.com. His name is also Joshua Murphy. His updated yahoo is verizon4824. i linked his ip and everything together

^^ this person is not zapsoda

his sig:

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=zapsoda&sign=ANY&type=RECV

the real zapsoda, in #bitcoin-otc

[12-20 09:11:34] <zapsoda> What do i have to do to get this person banned for saying hes me in his sig file https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=71004   ?

gribble confirms zapsoda is the real one

[12-20 09:13:22] <gribble> Nick 'zapsoda', with hostmask 'zapsoda!~Zapsoda@96.127.133.54', is identified as user Zapsoda, with GPG key id 02B48EA4D9B4322A, key fingerprint 528BFC0E8EE1D7EEB1011E6A02B48EA4D9B4322A, and bitcoin address 1MG9qstmr6UjrN6brx4uDVXRNHSr9Mjy7a

see also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128570.msg1406508#msg1406508

I also think he is a scammer. When i asked if he has rep he gave me OTC profile for another user. I then asked if he has rep on this forum he said yes ask senior admins.

FAIL scammer   

[furrycoat]

Add me on skype:

stutihebest

His skype is stutihebest he gave me this before he scammed me, I never talked to him over it tho.

[paroxsitic]

Add me on skype:

stutihebest

His skype is stutihebest he gave me this before he scammed me, I never talked to him over it tho.

Thanks, I see when he talks to "moneypak" here:

http://pastebin.com/5E4VXnNe

[Ari]

see here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85381.0

also this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121249.0

[paroxsitic]

Update: I have filed a police report with my county sheriffs office. He seemed hopeful they can get a search warrant for comcast and to give up the IP information. Both his new and old IP (all your aliases on bitcoin-otc don't hide you). It takes a few days for me to get the report and then I will show mtgox.


Liberty Payout , it's not too late to pay back the money owed. Fraud charges on your record is not worth $1000. Think it through.

[BCB]

Someone on otc with the nick LRP has been scamming on otc.  IP links back to Liberty Reserve's Philly Location.

[furrycoat]

Some nice progress coming along in the case, honestly though, Liberty Payout has got to be the most idiotic scammer ever. He's scammed thousands of dollars, which is a felony, and does not even cover basic things like IP. Won't be long till the cops come knocking..