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December 20, 2012, 01:09:13 AM |
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Liberty Payout is in for a lot of trouble. Me and Paroxsitic have contacted the FBI's Bureu of Internet Crime and filed a police report. Bitcoin OTC was kind enough to give us the offenders personal IP address. New Jersey, the home state of Liberty Payout happens to have some of the strictest laws in the country regarding internet fraud/crime. After the Bureu reviews the evidence they will be contacting websites used by the offender to get his exact location. Me and paroxistic have been speaking over the phone almost all day working this out, contacting agencies, getting evidence etc. I realize people rarely go to prison over Bitcoin scams but thats only because the victims dont know who to contact and they are never reported. My brother who is a internet defense attorney gave us all the places we need to contact to get this thing rolling. The only bad part about this whole scenario is that me and paroxistic will probably end up spending more in court fee's then we lost. Neverthless, once this is finished it will be one less scumbag scammer lurking these forums. Wish us luck!
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Stephen Gornick
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December 20, 2012, 02:13:42 AM |
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getting evidence etc.
I see a transaction in the #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust (WoT) using Xoom. LRP 2012-11-23 18:34:59 1 Bought BTC from me via Xoom. - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=LRPThat will help provide identity (or lead to more info if further details are needed).
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December 20, 2012, 02:52:16 AM |
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Unfortunately, I trusted this guy because of his few good ratings (he was using the name LRP at the time, which it turns out is one of many names he uses.) I was new to #bitcoin-otc, and like a complete moron I sent him 73 bitcoins, almost $1000 worth. Should have held out for someone with a better rating. The Transaction (blockchain.info)Two days later he starts getting all these bad ratings. He'll probably come back under a new name. #bitcoin-otc Nick HistoryYou can see his history of names there. Looks like he's too stupid to change his IP address between nick changes, leaving a lot of potentially useful history. He claimed on Monday he would be sending the money as cash-in-the-mail to my PO box on Tuesday (yesterday). Still hoping this is all some big misunderstanding and my cash will show up, though very unlikely at this point.
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Stephen Gornick
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December 20, 2012, 03:11:22 AM |
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Two days later he starts getting all these bad ratings. He'll probably come back under a new name. #bitcoin-otc Nick HistoryYou can see his history of names there. Looks like he's too stupid to change his IP address between nick changes, leaving a lot of potentially useful history. Oh wow. That's one of those impersonation attempts. (using a slight variation of a nick of a user with a good trust history). 2012-12-16 23:03:37 CST 1355720617 JOIN Azelphur_ [otc] #bitcoin‑otc
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furrycoat
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December 20, 2012, 03:52:22 AM |
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Jeez he sure did cash out. So he made at least 2500$ off scams who knows how much more we dont know about. What a scumbag, I gave him a bitcoin for his "help" before he ripped me off of 500$.
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John (John K.)
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Away on an extended break
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December 20, 2012, 08:23:34 AM |
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Any updates on this issue? Is the Unsure part removable now?
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TheButterZone
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December 20, 2012, 10:19:28 AM |
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This is really weird. #12373 Mon Dec 17 18:25:12 2012 LRP BUY 73.0 btc @ 12.826 Cash (in mail- Seisatsu)
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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paroxsitic (OP)
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December 20, 2012, 11:08:21 AM Last edit: December 20, 2012, 01:06:11 PM by paroxsitic |
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I have switched the topic to confirmed, albeit I know this means I might not ever get paid by him now unless I involve help, which I plan to do. He has used the nick Azelphur_ trying to impersonate Azelphur, oddly enough someone he actually did a transaction on XOOM with (source: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=LRP) Thus hopefully Azelphur can let me know any identifying information and I can bring him to justice. I know with great certainty his IP is 76.124.34.93 which indicates he is from the Philadelphia/new jersey area as the IP is a comcast IP from a NJ headquarter, and some results indicate PA or NJ from records. He has also indicated he lives in Philadelphia. I have already contacted comcast but haven't got a reply but I think if I get a court order I can get his information from Comcast, or at least MtGox. MtGox has told me they will give me the details of his account if I got a court order as well. It would make the court/police proceedings much easier if I just had a name and address to go with, instead of an IP address and internet handle, so hopefully one of his previous customers will raise up and let us know any information so we can proceed to get our money back.
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Azelphur
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December 20, 2012, 12:34:13 PM |
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He was impersonating me? friendly.
Anyway, I keep getting messages from people asking me to identify him (at least 5 now) so I'd just like to make this clear Xoom anonymizes transactions, I have no information to give, sorry!
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Jimmysmith
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December 20, 2012, 01:52:14 PM |
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okay, this user, his name is Kirch123 on exchangemoneyforum.com. His name is also Joshua Murphy. His updated yahoo is verizon4824. i linked his ip and everything together
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paroxsitic (OP)
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December 20, 2012, 01:55:05 PM Last edit: December 20, 2012, 02:10:55 PM by paroxsitic |
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okay, this user, his name is Kirch123 on exchangemoneyforum.com. His name is also Joshua Murphy. His updated yahoo is verizon4824. i linked his ip and everything together
I will confirm with the forums owner, I have already noticed he had registered on it with "Liberty Payout" in the past and already sent an email a few hours ago. I also asked anyone who has ever had him on skype to let me know his skype too. Edit: Seems your information is wrong. http://exchangemoneyforum.com/showthread.php/135359-Need-Buy-Moneypak-URGENTHere is Kirch123 calling out someone with the verizon4824 yahoo name. Also Kirch123 is involved with this thread: http://exchangemoneyforum.com/showthread.php/135967-Selling-Moneypak-with-receipts-and-withoutIn which an associate of Liberty Payout "moneypak" is trying to sell MP and Kirch123 is wary, and then later Liberty vouches for him, saying he made an account for moneypak just to vouch from him. Then Kirch123 doubts Liberty Payouts vouch : http://cl.ly/image/0M370j3P0m30. If they were the same person why would he do that? Later on though "Liberty Payout" calls moneypak a scammer on bitcointalk. None the less I added moneypak's skype to see if he will give up any information on Liberty Payout Furthermore, Joshua Murphy seems to be : http://www.facebook.com/Joshuam319 which indicates he lives in North Carolina according to a lot of sites, thus cannot be Liberty Payout as he lives in the PA/NJ area.
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December 20, 2012, 03:14:26 PM |
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okay, this user, his name is Kirch123 on exchangemoneyforum.com. His name is also Joshua Murphy. His updated yahoo is verizon4824. i linked his ip and everything together
^^ this person is not zapsoda his sig: the real zapsoda, in #bitcoin-otc gribble confirms zapsoda is the real one [12-20 09:13:22] <gribble> Nick 'zapsoda', with hostmask 'zapsoda!~Zapsoda@96.127.133.54', is identified as user Zapsoda, with GPG key id 02B48EA4D9B4322A, key fingerprint 528BFC0E8EE1D7EEB1011E6A02B48EA4D9B4322A, and bitcoin address 1MG9qstmr6UjrN6brx4uDVXRNHSr9Mjy7a
see also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128570.msg1406508#msg1406508I also think he is a scammer. When i asked if he has rep he gave me OTC profile for another user. I then asked if he has rep on this forum he said yes ask senior admins. FAIL scammer
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furrycoat
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December 20, 2012, 03:30:36 PM |
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Add me on skype:
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His skype is stutihebest he gave me this before he scammed me, I never talked to him over it tho.
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paroxsitic (OP)
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December 20, 2012, 05:11:17 PM |
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Add me on skype:
stutihebest
His skype is stutihebest he gave me this before he scammed me, I never talked to him over it tho. Thanks, I see when he talks to "moneypak" here: http://pastebin.com/5E4VXnNe
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December 20, 2012, 05:27:08 PM |
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paroxsitic (OP)
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December 20, 2012, 06:46:49 PM |
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Update: I have filed a police report with my county sheriffs office. He seemed hopeful they can get a search warrant for comcast and to give up the IP information. Both his new and old IP (all your aliases on bitcoin-otc don't hide you). It takes a few days for me to get the report and then I will show mtgox.
Liberty Payout , it's not too late to pay back the money owed. Fraud charges on your record is not worth $1000. Think it through.
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December 20, 2012, 07:02:04 PM |
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Someone on otc with the nick LRP has been scamming on otc. IP links back to Liberty Reserve's Philly Location.
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furrycoat
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December 20, 2012, 09:35:11 PM |
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Some nice progress coming along in the case, honestly though, Liberty Payout has got to be the most idiotic scammer ever. He's scammed thousands of dollars, which is a felony, and does not even cover basic things like IP. Won't be long till the cops come knocking..
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