Smoothie and cypherdoc

[smoothie]

i said long ago that most of you around here will get shaken out of this bull market by overtrading.  i see plenty of evidence that this is happening.  

Don't be bothered by TA skeptics and always bullish people, this is a rich and extensive analysis considering it's free. Keep it up.

Blitz, and just what exactly is wrong with having been bullish all along?  i would submit that the majority of traders who've had the discipline to hang on over the last year and a half are UP with their accounts.  afterall, there has been only approx. one month in the entire 4yr hx of Bitcoin trading where the price has been higher, so statistically my claim should be valid.  of course i'm sure Smoothie will jump in here and say he's up a thousand %.  maybe, maybe not.  i can tell he's a day trader though so i have my doubts.  

i've made it public that my average cost in is around 6.50 so i've more than doubled my money w/o any trading headaches by being a "permabull" as you call it.

the obvious question some of you might ask is then why should we subscribe to you cypher if we all know you're just a bull?  the answer is that most of my subs are inexperienced traders that don't have the discipline to hold tight.  they need to be talked through big selloffs and have it explained to them why i remain bullish.  there will come a time when i say sell though.

and i'm not always bullish; i alerted my subs during the August selloff minutes before it happened.  from that move it was obvious what would happen so you can't call me a permabull.

This is an outright lie. I was a subscriber and he did not call the sell off in August. Cypher you know better than to lie outright don't you? Wow never thought you would do that. Now watch him WIGGLE out of this statement. 

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[cypherdoc]

smoothie, what's your problem?  i never thought i'd see you act this way either.  here's the email from 8/17/12 12:10 PM the first day of the 3d selloff.  please go check your past emails.  everyone else who is a sub also please check:

"Day 28:  could get a pullback here but it should be temporary as we move into the
the daily cycle bottom.

cypher"

[cypherdoc]

here's from 8/14/12 9:00 PM:

"We're in day 26 of the daily cycle.  We'll probably top briefly soon before
we put the bottom in somewhere around day 29-30.  But it should be short
lived before we start the next cycle up.  It should present a nice buying
opportunity.

smoothie asked me what i'm looking for as a larger potential sell signal on
the way up.  answer:  a weekly swing high.  this would be a larger more
threatening sell signal that you could consider trading.  personally it'll
take alot more for me to sell even if this does occur as I expect it would
be a temporary situation.  But alot will depend on what things look like
when we get there in the fundamental back drop and the technical setup.
 the nice thing about this indicator is that you can sit back, ride the
wave, and relax until we start to see signs of this forming.

cypher"

[smoothie]

smoothie, what's your problem?  i never thought i'd see you act this way either.  here's the email from 8/17/12 12:10 PM.  please go check your past emails.  everyone else who is a sub also please check:

"Day 28:  could get a pullback here but it should be temporary as we move into the
the daily cycle bottom.

cypher"

Give me a few minutes/hours as I compile all the emails Cypher sent out before and after the FALL in August.

I have a problem with liars and bullshitters. Your statement is a lie and I will out it as it is.

Let's let people decide whether or not your "claim" of calling the fall in August is in fact TRUE or not.

[cypherdoc]

smoothie, what's your problem?  i never thought i'd see you act this way either.  here's the email from 8/17/12 12:10 PM.  please go check your past emails.  everyone else who is a sub also please check:

"Day 28:  could get a pullback here but it should be temporary as we move into the
the daily cycle bottom.

cypher"

Give me a few minutes/hours as I compile all the emails Cypher sent out before and after the FALL in August.

I have a problem with liars and bullshitters. Your statement is a lie and I will out it as it is.

Let's let people decide whether or not your "claim" of calling the fall in August is in fact TRUE or not.

tell me what's "wrong" with the 2 emails i posted?

[smoothie]

smoothie, what's your problem?  i never thought i'd see you act this way either.  here's the email from 8/17/12 12:10 PM.  please go check your past emails.  everyone else who is a sub also please check:

"Day 28:  could get a pullback here but it should be temporary as we move into the
the daily cycle bottom.

cypher"

Give me a few minutes/hours as I compile all the emails Cypher sent out before and after the FALL in August.

I have a problem with liars and bullshitters. Your statement is a lie and I will out it as it is.

Let's let people decide whether or not your "claim" of calling the fall in August is in fact TRUE or not.

tell me what's "wrong" with the 2 emails i posted?

Short answer: It is selective. There is more to the story than what you posted in terms of TIME and CONTEXT.

Long answer: to come shortly.  

[smoothie]

@Yuhfhrh,

Sorry I was meaning to create a thread for this. Just busy day. Thanks for doing it for me. Appreciated.

More to come on this topic shortly. Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.   

[ElectricMucus]

Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.  

You have other tasks at hand except trolling? Shocking!  

[cypherdoc]

Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.  

You have other tasks at hand except trolling? Shocking!  

wow, i've become the target of a smoothie troll. this should be fun.  i was hoping to live my life out w/o that  

[smoothie]

Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.  

You have other tasks at hand except trolling? Shocking!  

I know right? lol... 

[smoothie]

Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.  

You have other tasks at hand except trolling? Shocking!  

wow, i've become the target of a smoothie troll. this should be fun.  i was hoping to live my life out w/o that  

  don't worry I don't have a problem with you. I just have a problem with what you said in the OP of this thread. People can decide for themselves whether what you said was true or not.

Hang in there... 

[cypherdoc]

Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.  

You have other tasks at hand except trolling? Shocking!  

wow, i've become the target of a smoothie troll. this should be fun.  i was hoping to live my life out w/o that  

  don't worry I don't have a problem with you. I just have a problem with what you said in the OP of this thread. People can decide for themselves whether what you said was true or not.

Hang in there...  

but you admit that the emails are genuine, correct?

the first email on 8/17/12 at 12:20 pm was the entire extent of the email, not a phrase picked out of a bunch of other stuff.  also, IIRC, it was before the selloff started altho i'm a little fuzzy on the exact time that day that it started.

[smoothie]

Sorry guys it is a busy day for me.  

You have other tasks at hand except trolling? Shocking!  

wow, i've become the target of a smoothie troll. this should be fun.  i was hoping to live my life out w/o that  

  don't worry I don't have a problem with you. I just have a problem with what you said in the OP of this thread. People can decide for themselves whether what you said was true or not.

Hang in there... 

but you admit that the emails are genuine, correct?

Let me double check that. Sorry as I already stated it is a really busy day for me. I will post all information relevant to the matter in due time.

Hang in there...

[cypherdoc]

Let me double check that.

what!!?  you're flipping out claiming that they were selective with regards to TIMING and CONTEXT and you didn't even check the validity of the emails?

[cypherdoc]

i seriously think that you're all out of the market right now and trying to precipitate a selloff so you can get back in.  i'm just messing up those plans aren't i by just talking truths?

[cypherdoc]

i went back and referenced the post where i mentioned you about the 1000% thing.  i will say this:  i should've left you out of that post and shouldn't have made assumptions about you day trading.  but you were already trolling me pretty good which is why i did it half expecting you to jump back in with some other comment.  sorry for that.

[Third Way]

I'm so out of the loop of everything, what's going on?

[cypherdoc]

I'm so out of the loop of everything, what's going on?

certainly nothing important.

[smoothie]

Let me double check that.

what!!?  you're flipping out claiming that they were selective with regards to TIMING and CONTEXT and you didn't even check the validity of the emails?

Cypher, chill man lol.

You're asking me to double check the emails. I will do that. It sounds like what I remember them to be. But to say they are accurate and in context is another thing.

For someone who thinks I have nothing important to say, you sure are getting emotional about it. Chill... 

[smoothie]

i seriously think that you're all out of the market right now and trying to precipitate a selloff so you can get back in.  i'm just messing up those plans aren't i by just talking truths?

Nope. Wrong. Not all out at all. Once again wrong.