Smoothie and cypherdoc

[smoothie]

Yes, but when I made the original statement I thought it was ~1 day+. 2 hours in my opinion still counts as minutes beforehand. Its close enough. Anything over 3 hours is pushing it "minutes"-wise.

I see your point. But you did not address him saying not to sell and that there COULD be a drop in the same 24 hour period.

a real trick in riding a wave up is trying to time the exit while trying to maximize the gain.  this is why i said "do not sell 24h before.  i didn't calculate the extra gain involved right to the apex mainly b/c we can't get the exact time it topped btwn 12:10 PM and 2:20 PM but it was a significant amount added by holding right to the top.  

sure, i could have screamed "SELL NOW" instead of "could have a pullback now" and it would've been better.  but this isn't easy work and you know i hadn't said anything like that since the beginning of the newsletter back in April.  

the problem i have is with all the retractions and corrections i've been able to force you to make during this thread precisely b/c i was able to hunt down the real proof in the emails.  you say it's "just a math error" on your part.  no, its way more than that.  all those different hourly times you threw out there were not calculations at all; they were made up according to your memory of the situation.  how can you accuse somebody of lying when you haven't bothered to investigate the hard facts?  there are actually legal penalties exacted against ppl when they do those sorts of things; its called slander.  you even missed the entire day of the drop 8/17 vs. 8/18 that you claimed and even said you remember sleeping during the time all those "hours".  all that was blatantly false.

this is why ppl call you a troll; you sling so much crap out there and a lot of it sticks b/c ppl just don't have the energy or time to fight and give up and just ignore you.  i won't stand for it.

How would I know this Cypher (BOLD)? I was only a subscriber in July and August.

More disinformation you want to spew?  

i am really not there as an analyst to tell you exactly what to do and when.  you have to think on your own.  

I like how you did not even admit you were wrong in your assumptions of the FACTS of WHEN I was a subscriber. Once again Cypher ignoring the facts and truth and when he makes a mistake overlooks it and diverts attention. Classic.  

EDIT: IF YOU ARE NOT AN ANALYST YOU SHOULDN'T BE TELLING PEOPLE "NOT TO SELL". OKAY?

i went back and changed it.  happy now?

My request was that you admit you were wrong. Not that you change it. I've already quoted it so it still exists.

imagine if i went back and picked apart all the errors in your statements above and beyond what i've already had to do that have no bearing on what we are arguing here.  we'd double the size of this thread.

No one is stopping you. Have at it. I never denied my mistakes. If you find more let me know. I'll admit to them. Still waiting on you.....

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[goodlord666]

Is there a love affair going between you? May I join?

I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE cypherdoc, too!

 

[cypherdoc]

ok, lets start with your allegation.  you say i lied b/c i can't say for sure that it was "minutes" before the top when i sent the warning even though we know that its for sure less than 2h 10 min.

ignoring the fact that you "made up" about 4 different  "hour" estimates of when the email went out before the top, how do you know that the 12:10 PM email wasn't exactly one minute before the selloff began?  answer:  you don't and can't prove it.

therefore, i call you a liar for lying about something you don't know and can't prove.

[cypherdoc]

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feel free to lay out your case too and i'll be glad to clarify what exactly went on.

[smoothie]

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lol

[goodlord666]

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feel free to lay out your case too and i'll be glad to clarify what exactly went on.

No thanks. I actually don't care.

I got bigger fish to fry.

[smoothie]

ok, lets start with your allegation.  you say i lied b/c i can't say for sure that it was "minutes" before the top when i sent the warning.

ignoring the fact that you "made up" about 4 different  "hour" estimates of when the email went out before the top, how do you know that the 12:10 PM email wasn't exactly one minute before the selloff began?  answer:  you don't and can't prove it.

therefore, i call you a liar for lying about something you don't know and can't prove.

Let's remember it was you who made the initial claim.

I don't have to prove anything. You are the one who has to prove it given you made the claim of your "god-like" price calling skills.

You STILL have not proven that you called it MINUTES before the actual sell off (despite your illogical writing skills in the initial statement). Also you never really even called a fall. You left out the extent in which you believed it would happen. $0.01 price drop call is not equal to a $7 drop call nor a $4 drop call.

You still are a liar for making your statement which you still have not retracted nor could PROVE 100% that your claim was dead on accurate. There is this "wishful thinking" that you were possibly right with your email timing...not necessarily on the CALL itself, which was rather vague. "COULD HAVE A DROP"....

How much in $ or % you think? Oh no 'just a drop'.

LOL  

[cypherdoc]

Is there a love affair going between you? May I join?

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feel free to lay out your case too and i'll be glad to clarify what exactly went on.

No thanks. I actually don't care.

I got bigger fish to fry.

well then, you're just a dick flaming b/c you pop in here twice, make a false allegation and don't want to stand up to it.  i still submit you were the problem, not me.

[smoothie]

Is there a love affair going between you? May I join?

I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE cypherdoc, too!

 

feel free to lay out your case too and i'll be glad to clarify what exactly went on.

No thanks. I actually don't care.

I got bigger fish to fry.

well then, you're just a dick flaming b/c you pop in here twice, make a false allegation and don't want to stand up to it.  i still submit you were the problem, not me.

What allegations did he make cypher? Did I miss it? 

[cypherdoc]

as further evidence, here's the email exchange from the sub, that i referred to above, 96 minutes after i sent out my warning.  i've removed his name and email for privacy reasons:

"On 8/17/12 1:46 PM, _________________wrote:
The price just fell to $10.60 almost instantly. Where do you think it will stop?

_______________                            


-------- Original message -------- Subject: Day 28 From: cypher doc To: undisclosed-recipients:; CC:

could get a pullback here but it should be temporary as we move into the the daily cycle bottom.

cypher

not sure where but it more about the timing.  today is day 28 of the 29.32 daily cycle.  we could still get another day or two of selling before we resume the uptrend.  wait for a daily swing low if you want to be cautious about buying the dip.

worse case scenario a major sell signal will be if we get a weekly sell signal but i don't think that will happen.

cypher"