CPC Electronics - is it legit?

[theGECK]

http://www.cpcelectronics.co.uk/index.html

Found via BitVisitor today, can't find any other information about them. Has anybody else dealt with them?

[John (John K.)]

No idea, but seems strange. No actual pics (all from photoshopped stock pics of cases) and no verification anywhere, Geotrust cert is legit though.

[Cablez]

So are they selling others ASICs in there own enclosures? Strange indeed.

[Dagger75]

"Is your hardware based on a custom ASIC chip?
No, the hardware is comprised of AMD GPU stream processors on VLIW-5 architecture"


I can't imagine an 800 GH/s "system" bases on 5000 Series AMD GPUs

[John (John K.)]

"Is your hardware based on a custom ASIC chip?
No, the hardware is comprised of AMD GPU stream processors on VLIW-5 architecture"


I can't imagine an 800G/H "system" bases on 5000 Series AMD GPUs

I can, though. It'll be a huge warehouse-sized enclosure for the sheer amount of GPU's involved.

[theGECK]

Contacted them, they said that they were sure their customers had reviewed them online but I couldn't find anything.

They say that it should have comparable performance to an ASIC, not sure how much of that was the contact person's sales speak or not since I don't know exactly what they're selling. It seems like you would need more than 70w for their 5.2GH/s system.

For what they say they're selling, do the prices look inline with expectations or too good to be true?

[MrTeal]

They're too good to be true. The 800GH/s rig claims to use 2500W. AMD GPUs? Right. The 67.2GH/s rig is supposed to use less power (230W) than Avalon.

[John (John K.)]

Contacted them, they said that they were sure their customers had reviewed them online but I couldn't find anything.

They say that it should have comparable performance to an ASIC, not sure how much of that was the contact person's sales speak or not since I don't know exactly what they're selling. It seems like you would need more than 70w for their 5.2GH/s system.

For what they say they're selling, do the prices look inline with expectations or too good to be true?

Too good to be true + blatantly scammish. Not to mention they don't even accept any CC's and stick to Bitcoin for the anonymity.

Is your hardware based on a custom ASIC chip?
No, the hardware is comprised of AMD GPU stream processors on VLIW-5 architecture

Which mining software is compatible with your hardware?
The hardware in installed with a Windows server 2008 and the latest Ubuntu distrubition as dual boot system and has the required drivers preconfigured with most mining software such as Ufasoft, Bfgminer and our own custom CPC Miner.

Massive errors and inconsistent stuff. Try fitting 800GH worth of  VLIW-5 GPU's in a case and see? Dual booting miners? Windows server 2008? Unprofessional site and spelling?

[theGECK]

It's what I was assuming. I gave the support chat person the link to this thread if they want to come in and defend the site, but it looks like a scam to me.

Shame I found it through BitVisitor, most sites I've seen in there are actually pretty good.

[bitvisitor]

Thanks for alerting us to the questionable claims made by this website. I have removed their link from display, but will be happy to re-include it if they can substantiate their claims.

[greyhawk]

Contacted them, they said that they were sure their customers had reviewed them online but I couldn't find anything.

Their whois entry is 5 days old. http://whois.domaintools.com/cpcelectronics.co.uk

No contact or adress information on the site but the chat, the adress listed on WHOIS is a huge office block, about the best adress in Manchester, so it's likely a mail forwarding service.

Yeah, this looks like a "money re-appropriator"


EDIT: Haha, laughing about the 1 year guarantee. You can't even do that in the EU. That's way too short.

[theGECK]

Hopefully I was one of the only ones to see it - everything is just a huge red flag here.

[greyhawk]

I may accidentally just have sicced the Manchester City Council on them. Whoops. I'm just not good with this computer stuff.

[theGECK]

I may accidentally just have sicced the Manchester City Council on them. Whoops. I'm just not good with this computer stuff.

Well, you can't be expected to know everything about how these here internets work.

[makomk]

They appear to be infringing on one of Farnell's trademarks, and I'm pretty sure anyone legitimate would have heard of Farnell and known better.

[thebaron]

No. And you can take that to the bank.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Contacted them, they said that they were sure their customers had reviewed them online but I couldn't find anything.

Their whois entry is 5 days old. http://whois.domaintools.com/cpcelectronics.co.uk

No contact or adress information on the site but the chat, the adress listed on WHOIS is a huge office block, about the best adress in Manchester, so it's likely a mail forwarding service.

Yeah, this looks like a "money re-appropriator"


EDIT: Haha, laughing about the 1 year guarantee. You can't even do that in the EU. That's way too short.

I don't think it's a mail drop, but the address seems to cater to only offices (highend, as you implied) and not manufacturing: http://www.orega.com/orega-offices/manchester

[abeaulieu]

The who is info

  Domain name:
        cpcelectronics.co.uk

    Registrant:
        CPC Electronics

    Registrant type:
        UK Sole Trader

    Registrant's address:
        CPC Electronics
        3 Piccadilly Place
        Manchester
        LAN
        M1 3BN
        United Kingdom

    Registrar:
        1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND]
        URL: http://www.1and1.co.uk or http://registrar.1und1.info

    Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 13-Dec-2012
        Expiry date:  13-Dec-2014
        Last updated:  13-Dec-2012

    Registration status:
        Registered until expiry date.

    Name servers:
        ns67.1and1.co.uk          217.160.80.173  2001:08d8:00fe:0053:0000:d9a0:50ad:0100
        ns68.1and1.co.uk          217.160.81.173  2001:08d8:00fe:0053:0000:d9a0:51ad:0100

    WHOIS lookup made at 23:58:51 19-Dec-2012

Registered a couple days ago... and they already "a high percentage of our business is from repeat customers and referrals". Impressive

#scam

[julz]

anonymousads.com is serving advertisements for CPC.

e.g here: http://bitcoins.tumblr.com/post/38065525717/bitcoin-clusters  they are advertising their 5.2Gh/s scamrig.

[thebaron]

I can't wait for 3 months from now where people who read this thread before purchasing are posting in it saying they've been ripped off.